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A09101 A discouerie of I. Nicols minister, misreported a Iesuite, latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man, is contayned a ful answere to his recantation, with a confutation of his slaunders, and proofe of the contraries, in the Pope, cardinals, clergie, students, and priuate men of Rome. There is also added a reproofe of an oratiuon and sermon, falsely presented by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome, and presented to the Pope in his consistorye. Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touchng [sic] the aute[n]tical copie of Nicols recantation. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1581 (1581) STC 19402; ESTC S120349 83,096 196

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o●fer it Of the Cardinals Next after the Pope let vs sée what Iohn Nicols bringeth against the Cardinales Wherein I muste be shorter then in the other before both for that I haue not so● muche spare time as Ihon Nicols in the Tower maye haue as also to obey the wise mans counsaile Prou. 26. Answer not a foole according to his folye leste thou also becume like vnto hin Which sentence that I bring not against Ihon Nicols without iust cause shall appeare by his maner of accusing the Cardinals which is very fowle as foloweth First sayth he I will beginne with your Cardinales the pillars of your churche Haue not they bewtifull boyes with whome they committ the sinne of Sodome as I haue harde by the Romans How this sinn is punished in Rome ●ee after in the answer to Rome and by a gentelman whoe serued to Cardinal Sfoisie who trauailed by land with me from the cittie of Ancona to Venice haue not these younge Cardinales pretye wenches in their palaces An improb●ble slaunder whome in the daye time they cal ether their sisters or cosins and in the night time make them ether their bedfelowes or concubins And doe you not knowe how that there was a younge Cardinale a Prince An impuden●●lye burnte at Rome not longe since by a common queane of the s●ewes and tooke from her the frenche disease wherwith he dyed miserablye This is Iohn Nicols vncleane accusation of the Cardinals grounded only as you sée vppon a bare interrogation which alwayes may be answered iu●siciently with a No. But for that I wil not imitate his slanderous maner of dealing I meane to add proofe and reason to my Noe. Yet first I am enforced to complaine of some other men whose wisdom or grauitey should haue stayed the publishinge of suche scurrilitie as héere is put downe against soe many honarable parsons and some Princes also without anie proofe or reason at all I doe apeale héerin to the consciences of al modest and ciuil gentelmen be they of what opinion in religion soeuer The publishing of Nicols scurrilitie against lawe both of nature and Nations Whether it be not against al lawe both of nature and nations and against the dignitie of our kinde being men to suffer soe shameles filthe both lothsum and intollerable to any chaste eares without all proofe to be caste out against soe noble parsonages which neuer offended vs and to be published in printe to the vewe of the worlde If some wicked mann should aduenture the like against vs● in other countries and should set downe such particulariteis of dishonestie ether heard or deuised against our Nobilitie and Maiestrates and shoulde offer to printe it would not very natural shamfastnes cause men to suppresse it were they neuer soe contrarie in religion yes surely For there is humane respecte to be vsed euen towardes our enemies Although therfore the base spirite of Nicols shamed not to set abroche suche dregges of dishonestie to the reproche of soe manie woorthy men yet me thinketh respecte of common ciuilitie should haue moued those by whose allowance the matter passed to haue stayed or qualified soe reprochfull infamies powred out without certainty or ground of truth For what doth he bring for proofe of his reproches but only an vncertaine hear-say the reporte of a wandring seruing man if it be true as I think it false that any such conferred with him And is this sufficient to publish the auouchmēt of y● infamous horible crime against al Cardinales without exception The whole matter is quikly answered For the first poynte is a méere supposall suggested by enuie and vttered by malice For the Cardinales kéepe noe suche b●wtiful boyes nether is ther anie light suspition of such wickednes in anye of them and if thers were they could not esape the seueritis of iustice excersised in that place vppon this detestable sinne The second poynt is an improbable slaunder for that Cardinales keepe no women at all in their howses noe not their owne sisters Nether shall a man see any woman repayre to any Cardinals howse excepte vppon special knowen busines in the companie of men with whom they departe presently againe and yet this thing is soe rare a matter also as in mani● yeares you shal not sée some fewe to vse it The third poynt of the young Prince Cardinale is an impudent and apparentlye reprouable in the face of al the worlde For there was no young Prince Cardinal in Rome these manie yeares but onlye about three yeares past Card. A●striacus the Cardinal of Austria cossen german to the Emporour whoe albeit he were younge yet according to his vertuouse education he liued in Rome most innocently as also he dothe nowe in the courte of Spaine without al spote of such infamie as Ihon Nicols would enforce vppon him But ●et Nicols name the man that dyed in Rome and proue but this one reproche ●o be true and I wil yéelde in al the rest ●ut if he cannot then let him be sory that ●e hath reported it or his fauorers that they haue published it or at least the simple reader that he euer beléeued it being soe ●niust a slaunder And albeit this might stand for a suff●cient aunswere to soe vnsufficient an accusation yet for the more satisfaction of the reader and to shewe how farre of the liues of Cardinals are from occasiōs of thes obiected abhominations being al together occupied in vertuous affaires I wil touch bréefely the order of life and cōmon excersises of the most of the Cardinals The excersises of Cardinals in Rome● with their particuler inclinatiōs which for the most part is in one of thes fower kinde of vertuous excersises following that t s to saye in gouerning the Church in aduauncing learning in excersise of charitable deedes and in rare example of Pastorall lyfe In eche wherof albeit I name but few which are principal and alwayes present at Rome yet muste you vnderstande that these men haue their adherentes and followers bothe in Rome and abroad in other coūtries also Wisdome in gouernment And for the first which is gouerment I wil name only thrée that is Cardinal Como Sauello and Morono whose singuler giftes in that matter doe excell Cardinal Como Como is Secretarie to the Pope and directeth all actions of state which passe from him Cardi. Sauello Sauello is Uicar generall in spiritual matters and gouerneth the Cleargie with great zeale and sinceritie Card● Morono Morono is deane of the Consistorie and is commonly employed in Embassages abrode wherin he hath shewed him selfe a man of great valewe especially in his last iornie to Genua about 4. yeares past when by long laboure and peril to his owne parson he quieted set at vnion by the helpe of Benedictus Palmius of the Societie of Iesus the cittezens of Genua soe farr in discord amongest them selues the commonaltie against the gentelmen as it
enter into this howse of Conuertites maye not turne backe or go fourth againe but must perseuer there al their life which manie of these dishonest womē can not at the first resolue them selues to doe Therfore haue the noble matrones of Rome procured another howse called Casa pia Casa pia behinde Pantheō where these women may come for a time to proue what they will resolue vppon in which time the sayed matrones The great care of ho●est lyfe in Romane Matron● doe omitt no meanes to perswade them from all dishonestie for the time to come and do offer to prouide for them by good seruices with vertuous gētle women if they can not resolue them selues to enter into the monasterie of Conuertites by this meanes also many be reclaimed from wikednes sinne 7 Men adiudged to dye Concerning these which are adiudged to dye the citizens of Rome doe shewe themselues very charitable peitiful for they haue amongest other a Societie named the companie of mercie Societas mis●ricordia● whoe receaue into their costodie all such as are condemned to dye towardes whom they vse all humanitie and gentle dealing neuer leauinge them day nor nighte vntil the time of executiō be past If the prisoner haue any children they promise him to take order for them and soe they doe as also for his debtes if he be trowbled with any if he haue any enemies they bring them vnto him to be reconciled after that they reade good bookes vnto him and cause vertuous men to preache and make exhortations to like effecte they watche also with him and cause praiers to be saied for him and finallie they accompanie him to the place of executiō thēce receaue his body burie it causing certaine Masses to be saied for his soule These are the general points of the good works done in Rome which I haue touched bréefely leauinge out many more things then I haue mentioned for breuities sake But he that would cōceaue the multitude of thes works which ar done by the Romanes let him but read the bookes of the Societies or companies in Rome which being in nūber aboue 80. as I noted before euery societie besids the ordinary seruice of god exercising some particuler good worke The cause of so many good workes in Rome it must néeds be that such good workes are many in Rome I haue made mentiō before of y● societie of charitie which haue care of prisōs of the society of mercy which taketh care of cōdemned men and of some other Societies which haue care of Hospitalls But yet those are not all the good déedes which those societies doe for the societie of charitie doth besids geue 50. crownes a moneth vnto the Cōuertits doth marry 22. maids yéerly geuing thē 30. crouns a péece with new aparel also it distributeth euery soūday great quātity of bread vnto the poore Now if I shoulde speake of all other Societies strange liberalitie in marrying of mayds I should be to tedious But yet by thes two or thrée wordes which I say of a fewe you may iudge of the reste The Societie of the Annūciata La compagnia dell Anuonciata doe bury straungers and poore people which dye in Rome causing masses to be saide for thē and it marrieth euery yeare 180. maydes geuing eche of them 35. crownes with new apparel The Societie of the Conception La compagnia della Concettione dothe marrye euerye yeare 30. maydes geuinge them 20. crownes a péece with apparel The Societie of S. Angelo marieth euery yeare 20. maides with 25. crownes a péece and apparell The Societie of Confalones La compagnia delli Confalonieri marriethe yearly an vncertaine number with 18. crownes a péece and apparell The Societie of Brescians geueth 20. crownes The Societie of Bononians 35. crownes The Societie of Neopolitās 35. crownes The Societie of S. Apostolo besides helping of poore gentlefolkes dothe attende to make peace betwen enemies The Societie of Weepinge La Compagnia del P●anto dothe goe to poore people and visit them in their sicknes at their owne howses and geueth them phisicke all necessaries besides with apothicarie ware The Societie of the Name of God La Compagnia del nom● di Dio. besides other good workes attendeth to reprehend them which blaspheme or sweare or abus● the name of God The Societie of S. Laurence in Damaso besides other good thinges attēdeth alwaies to wayte on the blessed Sacramente and to goe before it with lightes when it is caried to the sicke The Societie of S. Marcellus attendeth principallye to procure prayers and masses to be saide for the sowles of all Christians departed Besides all this euery one of all these Societies and the reste haue their particuler déedes of charitie seuerall to them selues as peculier litle hospitalles howses for orphanes and the like And this shal be sufficient for the Societies or compagnies Besides al which the almes and good deedes of perticuler men Almes and good deede● of particuler men in Rome are infinite for diuers Romans will take vppon them diuers particuler workes of charitie as some to maintain one or two poore schollers of other countries as the vnder Penitentiarie maintained alwayes an English man or two and soe other of other nations Some will take vppon them to helpe in particuler some religious howse Some to sustaine some poore familie Other to visite euery daye once the sicke people of some hospital especially those that are in worst case and next to deathes dore Besides this ther is scarse any artezane in Rome which hath not some chappell in some church with a vawte in the same for the burying therin of his familie which chappel he maintaineth of his owne charges Moreouer at the station daies of Rōe Great almes geauen at station dayes in Rome which are euery holy day in the year euery day of the lente sundery daies besides these station daies are daies of repaire to some particuler churches in Rōe for deuotions sake you shall scarse finde a citizen which wil not be there or some of his howshould for him to pray with the rest bestow sumwhat on the poore which are there to expect almes in great numbers notwithstanding the hospitales it is almost increadible how many there are in soe muche that this laste yeare of Jubelie the Pope seeing the infinite nūber● of beggers about the churches wher the statiōs were spake to his officers to intice them away whoe did soe and offered them meate and drinke in the hospitals and a Iulio a daye besides a Iulio is vi d Englishe for a monethe And yet they woulde not take it Which being tould to the Pope he commaunded them to be permitted still saying The Popes saying o● many● beggers That their sighte did much good in procuring men to compassion to geue almes which otherwise many would not doe And soe in déed it fell out
you as wel a Kings doughter as Queen Mary as wel a Kings sister as Queene Mary as lawful Quéene of England I wil not say more as Queene Mary why then how can Papistes be otherwise but eng●she enemies and extreme enemies to Englande These and the lyke arguments in sense though not altogether in the same wordes he dilateth accordinge to his kind of eloquence through out all the firste parte of his booke though he make noe parts at all In the seconde parte he wandreth by certaine controu●rsies but as without al wit and l●arning lyke an english doctour citing all his matter out of Iewels defence of the Apologie For his Martyrologe and Cowpers Epitomye of the Cronicle soe without al modestie or limitation of lying For he saieth that the Papists hold Pag. 99. 96. 99. The Pope to be very God the light of the world and the Saueour of mankinde that they printe him in their bookes L●ptons lyes Our Lord God the Pope that the Pope also acknowledgeth the thinge taking him selfe in deed to ●e a God 100. 98. 172. 193. 131. 171. 5.6 That he dispenseth both against the oulde and newe Testamente * See of this the societie of the name of God before men●ioned let not the Puritanes glorie as thogh they only did ●orbid swearing That he biddeth vs not to forbeare swearinge any day that he aloweth al priests to haue harlots that he geueth licence for monye to keepe as many concubynes as a man wil● that his fast is to crāme in as many banquetinge dishes as men can that all Papistes are wor●e and deserue more death thē drūckerds● theeues murderers and pirates This is Luptons charitable doctrine with many thinges more which I omit In his third parte he proueth his religion b● euident and manifest miracles out of M● For his Acts and Monumēts As for example that one Bu●ton bayliff of Crow●and in Lincolneshire LuPtons miracles Pag. 294. for compelling a Curate to say Masse vpō zeale of papistrie in the begininge of Queene Maries dayes was afterwards for his punnishmente called K. by a crow that fl●w ouer his head and besides that his bearde embrewed with the crows doūg that she let fal vppon him which doung did soe stincke vpon his b●arde as made him continuallye to vomite for diuers dayes * Simple fellow● that ●org●t ●y cutting o● his b●arde to saue his lyfe Pag. 92. vntill he died most miserably Againe that in King Henries daies the Earle of willshyre and others goeing to Rome as Embassatours to the Pope refused to kisse the Popes foote when he helde it out to them at what time the Earles dogg hauinge more deuotion to it as he sayeth then they not only went and kissed the Popes foote but also snatched at his great toe * Poore Pope y● had no chamberlaine to ●epe out dogs signifiing therby that it was a parte more fitte for doggs to kisse then men All these thinges and many more the lyke he proueth out of M. For his Martirologe otherwise called Acts and monuments tied with long chaines in all Churches of Englande to be read with deuotion After Thomas Luptō followeth Thomas Knell of the same predicament but in a higher degrée For he to the vtter extirpation of Papistrie from the face of the earth taketh vpon him to proue that Al Papists whether they be teachers or hearers are in doctrine Schismaticks in faith hereticks in religiō hypocrits in worshipping Idolatours in obedience traitors by nature dogs in māners hogs vnfaithful to all men cōmō persequutors of the scriptures and Church of God Doe you not thincke we shal be vanquished whē our aduersaries armie hath such captaines and champions especially if ryming Elderton ioine with them Elderton●●●●●tle Ierkes for a ●esuite to become a trew● Israelite● assaultinge vs with his Ientle Iirckes cōdemning our cause from the tribunal of an ale bench Is not this a beggerly war●rap trow you which pawneth out such ragges for robes what miserable pouertie are our aduersaries brought vnto when they are faine to publish such scurrility for diuinity riming for reasoning shamelesse railing for orderly disputing but let them procéede on stil they can by no waye pleasure or profit vs more let thē publish Nicols booke of Pilgrimage wherin he promiseth to reuile vs frō top to toe to ring the larme bel against vs to power out al his venome at once to empt the very sincke of slaunder vpō our cause What shal this anoy vs or whom shal al this filth defile As long as their shal be ether honest vertuous learned wise modest noble or gētle mind in Enland so long shal we gaine by these their procéedings A new information from Rome of I. Nicols As I had finished deliuered this treatise to y● print ther came vnto me an honest discréet learned gētlemā frō Rome who affirmed that vpon the sight of I. Nicols booke ther other informatiōs of his doinges in England serche was made for his oration and sermon of ten shéetes of paper presented in Rome before the Pope and regestred as he saith in thrée paper volumes in the office of Inquisition The matter was easely found out and a coppie taken word for word by publique Notaries the cōmon scale also of the office was added vnto it and as this man remembreth the most of all the chéefe officers names subscribed but yet for some other further approbation as I thinke the thing is not hetherto sent from thence or at least not yet come vnto my handes Wherfore the Printer being not able to staye nor I certaine how soone it will come I iudg it not a misse to geue the reader some general intelligence of the matter vntil the thinge it selfe maye be published in print vppon the reporte of this discréet gentleman whoe bothe sawe it and read it and remembreth well the principal contentes therof First therfore he reporteth that Iohn Nicols made nether oration nor sermon in Rome nor that anye suche thinge is there regestred or remembred But only his recantation is ther to be séen of lesse then a shéete of paper in writen hand Nicols oration sermon of ten sheetes become an abiuration of lesse then one sheete together with a longe preface which preface is an ordinarie thing of that courte containing the causes of his repentance and voluntarie offering him selfe thither and the like After this Ihon Nicols commeth to put down his owne faultes committed before in England bothe in doctrine and life And for doctrine the reporter saith he hath numbred vp all the particuler heresies whiche euer he héelde or taught and this with very significante wordes as that he taught the detestable heresie of Luther against prayer for the dead the blasphemus heresie of Caluine against Christes real presence in the sacrament or the like Aboute lyfe the reporter remembreth not much in particuler but only that he saieth there Ego possedi duo
●nowledge The thyrde is Seminarium Grecum Grecum wherein the children of the Gréekes are brought vppe gathered from dyuers partes of the worlde and are instructed by learned men of their owne language together with the latine tongue for the confutinge of their countries errours and for the conuertinge of such iufidells as liue there amongest them The fourthe is Seminarium Anglicanum Anglicanū for Englishe men onelye The fifte is Seminarium Hungaricum Hungaricū for Hungarians and Slauons The sixte is Seminarium Belgicum Belgicum newlye begoone for Fleminges The last is Seminarium Romanum Romanū for the Italians wherein their is greate stoare of most goodlye youth albeit the most parte of this Seminarye liue not of the Popes charges and this is all with in Rome it selfe But nowe if we looke into other countryes this Pope hath manye more monumentes of his munificence Seminarie● out of Rom●● especiallye Seminaries mayntayned at his charges as the Englishe men in Rhemes Rhemes the Scottishe men in Paris Paris the Frenche men in Auinion Auinion the Zuisars in Lucerna Lucerna the Bohemians in Prage Prage the Duche men and Polonians in Uienna Vienna and in dyuers other places hath he the lyke espesially in Germanie which nowe I doe not remember But it shal be sufficient to haue named these for here hence we may gather a coniecture of the reste Now then this being soe let the vnpartial Reader iudge how likely a matter it is that this Pope disboursing his owne so abundantly abrode will pelfe vniustly from other men at home as his scoller Iohn Nicolls for good will accuseth him Noe noe this slaunder hath no iote of lykelihood as I noted before but was vttered for customes sake for pleasing of their humours whoe féede of reproch against the sea of Rome and against the man sitting there whatsoeuer God geue them his grace for the ●uringe of their Phrensie I woulde here ende to speake of the Pope but that I am enforced to adde a worde or two towching an impertinent quarrell which Iohn Nicols picketh to him for his Pontificalitie that is for the reuerence which Christians in respect of his rowme and dignitie exhibite vnto him which beinge in deade a very reasonable thing and such as may be geuen without flattery and receaued with out pride yet the malice and enuie of heretiques can not beare it but in greate ●eate of speach they inueigh agynst it Iohn Nicols here towcheth two pointes the one that men knéele downe● as he passeth by the other that he is borne vpon mens shoulders of both which I will speake And for the first I answere Kneling doū● for the Popes blessinge that séeinge we knéele downe to temporal princes and gouernours in respecte onely of the high gouernour whom they represent not expecting any thing from them excepte temporall commodities much more of righte may we knéele downe to a spiritual magistrate whoe gouerneth by a higher title thē the temporal doeth for that he is the instrument and ang●ll of God by whom al heauenly giftes and benedictiōs are deriued vnto vs. He succéedeth in the place of Adam Enoch Noe Abrahā Melchisedech Isaac Iacob of moyses and Aaron of all the holy Prophetes of Christ and his Apostles to delyuer Gods blessings vnto vs if we humbly séeke the same For which cause it hath alwaies bene the fashion of Christians to aske with humilitie the benediction of priestes and if of all priestes then much more of the highest Priest of all And this is the cause whye men doe knéele downe vnto the Pope not to addore him as malice slaundereth but to reuerēce him in honour of Christ whose person he beareth and to receaue by him Christ his benediction whose rowme he possesseth This I saye is the cause whye men knéele downe vnto him which thinge whosoeuer reprehendeth must néeds doe it more of enuie then of reason séeing he cannot but graunte that some honour is to be geuē vnto him which blesseth another for that S. Paul sayeth Heb. 7. That the better alwaies blesseth the lesser And of reason we must néedes thinke that the blessinges mentioned in the scripture as receaued at mens handes for example of Melchisedech by Abraham Gen. 14. of Isaac by Iacob Gen. 32. of Israell by the ●wo sonnes of Iosephe Gen. 32. of Iosue by the two tribes and a halfe Gen. 49. and of Salomon by the whole congregation of Israell 3. Reg. 8. were receaued with some externall reuerence 2. Paral. 6. especiallye that of Aaron which is more lyke vnto ours for that he was hygh Priest and also for that he is reported in scripture to haue Blessed the people afte● sacrifice Leuit. 9. by extending out his hand w●ich ceremonie whiles he did and being high Priest it is like the people shewed some externall reuerence by bowinge them selues or the lyke séeing good men were wonte in that time to cast them selues vpon the grounde to honour other vpon lesse occasions As Iacob to Esau Iosue 7. 1. Reg. 20. 25. Iosue before the Arcke Dauid to Ionathas Abigail to Dauid and the lyke Now towching the second which is that at certaine high festiuall dayes Bearing of the Pope on men● shoulders● he is borne from his palace into S. Peters Church for at no other time or place is that thing vsed it is a matter so reasonable the circumstances considered as can be offensiue to noe indifferente wise man and much lesse geue occasiō of such inuectiues and e●clamations as are vsed against it or rather agaynst all religion for this one thing The matter standeth thus At certaine principall feastes of the Church the Pope vsethe to leaue his priuate chappell and to come d●wne to seruice in Saint Peters Church● At which time such greate multitudes of people expecte him théere to receaue his benediction and verye manye also to sée him whiche neuer sawe him before beinge strangers come from farr countries to visite thos holy places as it is impossible for him to passe in and out thoroughe the preasse and to be seene to geue his benadiction to all excepte he should ether ride or be borne in his chayre And to ride it were very vnséemly and inconuenient hauing to passe thorough all S. Peters great church where the moste preasse is and also for the passages of stones and steres Wherfore they haue vsed alwayes to lyfte him vpp in his chayre and soe to conuaye him thorough the multitude and this is all the matter which is soe much exclaymed at Which notwithstanding being done vppon such considerations and necessities as I haue saide for at all other times he goeth on foote or rideth it rather noteth malice in them that maligne it then conuincethe pride in him that admitteth it or anye faulte at all in the wel meaning Christians who vppon soe iust causes doe both● desire and