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A57767 A reply to a scandalous pamphlet entituled A declaration against judicial astrology written by the quondam (most ignorant and weak) practitioner Mr. John Raunce. Wherein he is both stript of all his weak arguments, and confuted as altogether ignorant of the art. By William Ramsey gent qui est artium candidissimus amator. Ramesey, William, 1627-1675 or 6. 1650 (1650) Wing R210; ESTC R219039 10,643 16

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A REPLY TO A Scandalous Pamphlet ENTITULED A DECLARATION AGAINST Judicial Astrology WRITTEN By the Quondam most ignorant and weak Practitioner Mr. JOHN RAUNCE Wherein he is both stript of all his weak arguments and confuted as altogether ignorant of the Art By William Ramsey Gent. Qui est artium Candidissimus amator Ars non habet inimicum nisi ignorantem LONDON Printed for W. Larnar at the Black-moore in Bishops-gate-street 1650. A REPLY TO A Scandalous Pamphlet entituled A Declaration against Judicial ASTROLOGY IT hath been and is commonly known that in all ages there hath been one or other that hath denyed nay openly writ against the most manifest Truths nay even against the Divine Scriptures themselves being meerly either stirred up with a self-conceited pride of their own knowledg or envy that any should profess or mantain for truth what they are altogether ignorant of Amongst which beasts envious novices I may justly lawfully reckon this Learned Mr. J. Raunce who is so impudently audacious to condemn what in the least manner he can nether understand or comprehend and that is the Art of Judicial Astrology which he first begins to condemn by opening the vanity of the Art in it self as he called it which he saith is a kind of Diabolical Divination Page 2. line 2. of his scandalous Paper but how he can prove it Diabolical more then by barely saying so is as far beyond his wit to perform as it is for him to apprehend the mystery and verity of the same and l. the 3 and fourth he persists in his vilifying malicious speeches thus being full of Idolatry and Superstition and is contrary to the Scriptures And this he endeavours to prove thus No man can Divine by the Stars but by observing of time and saith he this regarding of time is not lawful as you may find Deut. 18. ver 10. sure he means for he names no verse as distrusting his understanding in the text as well he may if the words be throughly weighed and considered which are these Let none be found among you which is a regarder of times This he picketh out of the midst of the text and from the midst of nine several kinds of Superstition there rehearsed affirming thus generally that Astrology is there comprehended but I am confident all his shallow brains cannot prove that Astrology is in the least mentioned by name in thole words by him recited but if he had more particularly considered the text and with a candid eye he had never thus over-shot himself and declared himself so apparently malicious to the Art of Astrology to apply this text to signify Astrology only because it mentioneth the observing of time for saith he l. 11. p. the 2. it is well known unto us that in divining by Stars which is Judicial Astrology the Astrologer is not able to divine or foretell any thing but by observing of times which words he brings to prove that by that passage of Scripture is meant Astrology which is meerly his own construction for it will puzle both him Perkins Picus and all that ever durst to bark enviously at the Art to prove by Scripture or shew therein any passage wherein God doth plainly forbid men either Jews or Gentiles to study the Art of Astrology or prohibit indeed any knowledge of his Creatures which is a good and probable means to bring us to the knowledge of his Divine self not to Idolize them as he would needs possess the vulgar that Astrologers do when Astrologers know and do confess they are but secondary causes and signs of the will and pale sure of God inclining the dispositions and humors in man being composed of the 4 Elements not compelling as he would most erroneously and maliciously perswade the vulgar that Astrologers maintain Wherefore except he could have proved that passage of Scripture to signifie Astrology by better and sounder arguments then his own which is so weak and groundless that it vanisheth with himself not fit either to be more mentioned or thought on and yet this Idiot is so fantastically conceited of this his own bare construction and censure of the Scripture that he thereon concludeth with himself that his opinion and judgement he so readily pumpt out of his shallow Cocks-comb is so invincible an argument that he thus persists See here now what your Astrology is is it any thing else then Superstition and Idolatry For they say one time is good another bad and further thus thus you may see that what the Scripture saith God made only good they make to be both good and evil By which argument he would fain conclude Astrology to be superstitious as if a fatal necessity were concluded which is not an opinion of the Astrologer as I said before neither do they make time both good and bad for the worst time as sickness and other casualties which perhaps he means the Astrologers call bad times for he declares not his mind what he means nor what he would be at is good in some sence for it tends to the glory of God in one kind or other how ill or bad soever it may appear to such a Novice as him for the world nor nought therein had ever been made bur for his glory so that the Scripture is no wise by the Astrologer contradicted when he tells a man an ill time of trouble or sicknesses Crosses or the like is suddenly to happen on him he calls it perhaps an ill time as having relation to the patient or party that must undergo these afflictions yet this time in it self brings perhaps this suffering wrath by afflictions to God and his fear or perhaps brings death however it tends to the glory of God and therefore in it self the time is good Ergo no contradiction of the Scriptures by the Astrologers in making that time which God made good to be both good and ill Again he persists in his inveterate malice and runs on without either fear or wit not knowing indeed what he says being so inveterately malicious for he saith Astrology denyeth the providence of God in the disposing of the several changes that happen to man in this life if ruled by the Stars for say they meaning the Astrologers thus shall this man live and dye because of the Stars he had in his Nativity and of another man thus quite contrary by reason of contrary positions of the Planets at the Birth I pray consider and you shall see this to be very wickedness for God so ruleth the world by his providence that not a sparrow falleth to the ground nor a hair of our heads without his permission therefore saith Mr. John Raunce it must needs follow that the whole course of our life is only governed by the providence of God alone and not by the constellations of the Heaven So that by this argument he would fain conclude and prove by thus cavelling that the Stars were made for no use but him and such Idiots to gaze