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A20770 A treatise of the true nature and definition of justifying faith together with a defence of the same, against the answere of N. Baxter. By Iohn Downe B. in Divinity, and sometime fellow of Emanuel C. in Cambridge.; Selections Downe, John, 1570?-1631.; Baxter, Nathaniel, fl. 1606.; Bayly, Mr., fl. 1635.; Muret, Marc-Antoine, 1526-1585. Institutio puerilis. English. 1635 (1635) STC 7153; ESTC S109816 240,136 421

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of the Doctrine whether you meane thereby either this Doctrine that God commands him to belieue or this that it is absurd hee should command him to bee assured I confesse indeed that neither is the cause why the Reprobate cannot belieue but that either of them is false you shall neuer bee able to shew and I haue sufficiently proued the contrary N. B. Ex. 14.4 Rom. 9. If you aske who hath hardned him I answer God who hath power ouer the vessels of his owne making to shew his Iustice or mercy vpon them as pleaseth his diuine Maiesty If you will demand the cause why God would not giue him a fleshly heart to belieue Ioh. 12.39.40 I answer I know not Est enim aliqua docta ignorantia there is a certaine learned ignorance as well teacheth Master Caluin neither can our shallow wits search out the cause of his doings But this I know that it is so and the cause thereof principally to be his good pleasure To conclude therefore this point this Doctrine bringeth no blasphemous absurdity as you impurely and impiously affirme neither is the Doctrine false or implieth contradictories though our blind natures cannot vnderstand the things that bee of God Of this matter and argument let these places bee well weighed and by you either answered or reuerenced Rom. 11.23 Gal. 3.22 Act. 13.48 2 Thess 3.2 Mat. 13.11 Prou. 16.4 Rom. 9 1● 19 20. and from henceforth leaue off to greeue the Spirit of God wherewith the elect are sealed vnto the day of Redemption I. D. This is right that Sophysticall place which Aristotle in his Topicks calleth Apagogen Lib. 2. c. 5. See Muret. var. lect l. 7. c. 10. that is Abduction For whereas I goe about to proue that God commandeth not a Reprobate to bee assured because so doing hee should command him to belieue a manifest falshood which implieth contradiction and affirmeth errour to bee truth you not knowing what answer to make vnto the argument deriue the attention of the Reader another way and runne out into the common place of Gods secret counsels and the cause of Induration and the Reprobates inability to belieue discoursing too and fro of these things at pleasure hauing no other reason for so doing but onely because in my argument you read the word Reprobate and that I told you in this point you had no iust cause to say vnto mee as in our priuate conference you did who art thou that disputeth with God And yet as if all the while you had been in the very bowels of the cause and had not wandred so much as a haires breadth from it you conclude very soberly and sadly Therefore this Doctrine bringeth no absurdity neither is false nor implyeth contradiction But faine would I know what the Premisses are whereupon you inferre this Therefore or whether by the rules of your Logicke you may conclude without them Vnlesse this bee the sequele I know not what to make of it Our shallow wits cannot search out the cause of Gods works Ergo wee may not thinke it absurd that God shoul● command a Reprobate to belieue and assure himselfe of that which neither is nor neuer shall be true Vaine man proue once that God commandeth so and I will presently grant it is not absurd to thinke so Why dispute you so earnestly of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 why it is when I flatly deny the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that it is And why doe you thus alwayes grate vpon the Conclusions and make so little reckoning to answer the proofes I bring for it Well not to wrestle with words any longer nor so fruitlesly to beate the aire because you thinke like the Cuttle-Fish to escape the net by casting about you a filthy inke of foule speeches telling me I speak impurely impiously and charging me with Presumption and Curiosity for inquiring into the Counsels of God giue mee leaue by distinguishing matters to cleare the water which you wittingly and purposely haue pudled and withall to let the Reader see how basely and cowardly you seeke out starting holes to shift your selfe aside from my arguments rather then Schollerly to answer them by some conuenient solutions Consider therefore I pray you these few Positions 1. The secret Counsels of God are those matters which hee hath treasured vp in the closet of his owne knowledge and doth not disclose vnto mankind but what truth soeuer it hath pleased him in wisdome to reueale vnto vs and hath registred in his Word is not to bee esteemed nor taken for a secret 2. As to search into the hidden and secret Counsels of God is damnable Presumption so not to search and inquire into his reuealed will is damnable Negligence For as Moyses saith The secret things belong vnto the Lord our God Deut. 29.29 but the things reuealed vnto vs and our children for euer De vocat Gent. l. 1. c. 7. Whereupon Prosper The things which God would haue hidden must not be searched and the things which hee hath made manifest must not bee neglected lest in them we be found vnlawfully curious and in these damnably vngratefull 3. They therefore that painfully and diligently trauell to find out such truths as are either expressed or infolded in the written word are not to bee tearmed Curious but Studious So distinguisheth Saint Augustin Although both De v●il credendi ca. 9. saith hee bee carried with a great desire of knowing yet the curious man inquireth those things which nothing concerne him and the Studious man contrarily inquireth those things which doe pertaine vnto him 4. This is a reuealed truth that There is no contradiction in God and that Hee cannot doe those things which imply contradiction 2 Cor. 1.17.18.19.20 Heb. 6.18 or are repugnant vnto the nature and definition of a thing For in God as saith S. Paul there is not yea and nay but yea and Amen neither is it possible that hee should lie or deny himselfe and it is rather impotency then Power so to bee able to doe whereas contrarily De Trin. l. 15. c. 14. as elegantly Saint Augustin saith Powerfully hath hee not power to doe this neither is it infirmity but firmity because that truth cannot bee false 5. These two Propositions are contradictory The Reprobate is iustified The Reprobate is not iustified and The Reprobate shall bee saued The Reprobate shall not bee saued God therefore cannot make that they should be true at once For as Saint Augustin saith Contrà Faustum Man l. 26. c. 5. Whosoeuer saith if God bee omnipotent let him make that those things which haue been haue not been sees not that he faith if God be omnipotent let him make that those things which are true in that they are true be false 6. One part of the Contradiction is necessarily false namely this The Reprobate is iustified Rom. 8.30 The Reprobate shall bee saued for they onely who are Predestinated vnto life are as Saint Paul
Ergo Faith goes before Remission But Assurance as wee haue shewed followes after Remission Ergo it is not Faith But you will follow the ordinary translation I giue you good leaue for I take it to bee the truest yet from thence also thus I argue The Palsie man belieued yet was not assured his sinnes were forgiuen him till Christ told him so much for otherwise what needed Christ to tell him what hee knew already Ergo Assurance is not Faith Treatise That from whence followes a blasphemous absurditie cannot bee a truth for from truth nought but truth can bee concluded But from this that Faith is Assurance such an absurditie doth follow What is that That God commands to Belieue an vntruth and to bee assured of that which neuer shall bee For God being truth cannot command falshood to bee taken for truth Neither tell mee here of who art thou that disputest with God For this is a ruled case in Diuinity God cannot doe things which imply contradiction and therefore not make vntruth to bee truth or knowledge errour Now that this absurdity followes from thence thus I demonstrate God commands the Reprobate to belieue for for vnbeliefe the world shall bee condemned But no condemnation but for breach of a commandement for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and therefore they are commanded to Belieue I aske you then what it is to belieue You will say to know to bee assured Therefore God commands the Reprobates to know and to bee assured But this is a blasphemous absurdity therefore is your opinion absurd which infers it N. B. Two things in this argument are betweene vs to be discussed First whether it bee a blasphemous absurdity to hold that God commandeth a reprobate to belieue that hee shall bee saued You affirme it I deny it Secondly whether in this point God commandeth a Reprobate to belieue an vntruth when hee commandeth a reprobate to belieue and hee shall be saued You affirme it I deny it I. D. That it is a blasphemous absurdity to say that God commands Reprobates to know and to bee assured that they are already iustified and shall bee saued I haue indeed affirmed and I thinke haue also sufficiently confirmed But that God should commaund a Reprobate to belieue an vntruth if hee command him to belieue and hee shall bee saued I neuer yet affirmed What then This that He should command him to belieue an vntruth if hee command him to belieue that hee is iustified and shall bee saued A small difference will you say betweene And and That So was there betwixt Shibboleth and Sibboleth Iude. 12.6 yet enough to discerne an enemy from a friend For this proposition Belieue and thou shalt bee saued is Hypotheticall and Conditionall as if it were said in other tearmes If thou belieue thou shalt bee saued But this Belieue and assure thy selfe that thou shalt bee saued is Categoricall and Absolute excluding all Condition Now that God commands all both Elect and Reprobate to Belieue in the Lord Iesus and promises vnto them Iustification and Saluation conditionally if they Belieue I grant but that hee commands the Reprobate absolutely to know and assure himselfe that hee is already iustified and shall hereafter bee saued and glorified I constantly deny Which yet your opinion that Faith is an Assurance necessarily infers and therefore cannot bee true This matter being thus cleared let vs now bring your answers to the ballance and weigh them N. B. First therefore I answer Mat. 16.15.16 God cammandeth all men to Belieue the Gospell to bee saued and therefore the Reprobates If you demaund why hee commandeth them to belieue that which neuer shall be I answer So it pleased him So answereth Iesus Christ the Sonne of God Math. 11. v. 26. Now goe Master Downe and dispute with Iesus Christ and tell him that his Father deliuereth a blsphemous absurdity Search not too farre into the counsels of God lest you bee ouerwhelmed of his Maiesty reuerence his doctrine if you cannot vnderstand it for who is able to search out the reason of his wayes and counsels Rom. 11. seeing they bee like a great deep I. D. No Master Baxter it is not for dust and ashes to contend with the Creator of all things nor for base clay to enter disputation with so glorious a Maiestie Whatsoeuer that eternall truth speaketh I reuerence and adore and dare not presume to search a higher reason of his actions then his will knowing full well that his will is the prime rule and cause of Iustice and therefore that it is both folly to seeke a former then the first and impiety to subiect Gods will vnto some extrinsecall director But yet with you who as I take it are made of no better moulds then my selfe and are not exempted from those humane infirmities whereunto the rest of your brethren are subiect I hope I may bee bold to enter argument and to hold disputation as in other matters so touching this present question also To you therefore this I say that God doth indeed command the reprobate to belieue vnto saluation and yet neuer shall he belieue nor bee saued The cause hereof I know to bee Gods will and am content with all lowlinesse and humility to say with Christ Mat. 11.26 Euen so O Father because thy good pleasure was such But what is this to our purpose For it is one thing to command a Reprobate to belieue the Gospell another thing to command him to know and assure himselfe that hee is already iustified and shall bee saued for to Belieue the Gospell is to assent vnto an infallible truth but to bee perswaded of the other is to yeeld to that which neither is nor euer shall bee true You should therefore euidently demonstrate out of the Scriptures that God commands a Reprobate so to bee assured and perswaded and then if I rested not satisfied with Gods reuealed will you might iustly bid mee goe and dispute with Christ and forbid to search into the counsels of God lest I be ouerwhelmed with his Maiesty But if in Gods booke you cannot shew it I hold it a humane fancy rather then a diuine truth and therefore though I may not curiously prie into the secrets of God yet may I freely trie and examine the ground of mens opinions N. B. Againe it is an vntruth that God commandeth when he biddeth a Reprobate to belieue and hee shall bee saued For if hee could belieue he should then be saued without doubt Ioh. 11. That hee cannot belieue the reason is Christ hath not washed him Io. 13.8 neither hath opened his heart to belieue So that if hee could haue belieued hee should haue this doctrine effectuall vnto him to saluation That he therefore could not belieue is not to bee imputed to the falsity of the doctrine but to the hardnesse of his owne heart I. D. The commandement of God is absolute Belieue the promise of Saluation is conditionall if we Belieue That the Promise
definition this Relying vpon Christ is Iustifying Faith but that this Resting vpon Christ is vnto Faith as the fruite is to the tree proue it sufficiently and in Gods Name take the victory But you must not thinke that affirming is prouing or facing arguing and very meanely doe you conceiue of your Readers iudgement if you thinke that your weake asseuerations can more preuaile with them then the strength of my reasons For if by Rest you vnderstand as you should not Quiet and peace of Conscience which I confesse is not complete without Assurance but that Affiance by which wee stay our selues vpon Christ accepting him to bee our Mediator in such sort as is aboue described I haue both plainely and soundly demonstrated that Faith is such a Rest and such a Rest Faith and not the fruite of Faith N. B. And to be plaine with you when you say Iustifying Faith is not a Knowledge or an Assurance Tom. 3. de Iustif ca. 7. you speake pure Bellarmine as appeareth in his Booke de iustificatione I pray you therefore though you mislike M. Perkins turne not pure Papist I. D. And to bee plaine with you also if your kind of reasoning may passe for currant when you say Iustifying Faith is not a Rest or Affiance you speake pure Bellarmine Cap. 5.6.9 for in the same Booke by you quoted as hee denieth Faith to bee Assurance so hee denieth it also to be Affiance I pray you therefore though you mislike my Definition yet turne not pure Papist But Master Baxter you mistake the matter very much if you thinke all is Popish or erronious whatsoeuer either a member of the Church of Rome or the whole Church of Rome holdeth for by this rule wee should with the Arrians of Poleland renounce the very Faith of the Trinity as a branch of Antichrists Religion of whom it is reported that therefore and for this reason specially they hold the Pope to bee the misticall beast spoken of in the Reuelation and his triple Crowne a visible marke thereof because hee maintaineth the doctrine of the Trinity As therefore erewhile you said vnto mee Let vs not be bound to defend the errors of our Brethren so say I now vnto you Let vs not bee bound to reiect the truths of our aduersaries For truth is Gods wheresoeuer it bee found though it were in the mouth of him who is the father of lies and if Ticonius the Donatist speake with better reason then Cyprian an orthodox father Retract lib. 2. ca. 18. S. Augustin will not sticke therein to preferre the Hereticke before him that is Catholike But notwithstanding all this I would haue you to know that all the agreement betweene mee and Bellarmine is onely in this what Faith is not for in question what it is we differ the whole heauen one from another he defining it by Assent vnto diuine truths I by Affiance on the person of Christ N. B. Now Master Downe to make an end and returne to my other affaires from whence you haue vnkindly drawne mee I pray you read a few Positions to the which oppose what you can I. D. What your affaires are I am not well acquainted withall but what they should bee I wot full well Among the rest maintenance of Gods truth and conuincing of contrary errors are both by the rule of Christianity in generall and the office of the Ministry which you haue taken vpon you in particular required of you Wherein if you bee sure that all this while you haue beene employed you discredit your action exceedingly when you say you are vnkindly drawne from your other affaires vnto it Plut. Apophth Remember you not what the woman replied vnto Philip of Macedon denying to heare her sute because he was not at leisure Hast thou not quoth shee leisure to bee a King So say I vnto you either doe the worke if you will bee a Minister of Christs Gospell or else bee no Minister if you bee vnwilling to doe the worke To what end you should offer vnto me these Positions following requiring mee to oppose what I can against them I cannot well coniecture for what stuffe haue you here brought vs besides that which either is already sufficiently answered or whereof there is no question at all betwixt vs And therefore I see no cause why I should vouchsafe to bestow any time or labour about them Neuertheles to satisfy your request a word or two touching them N. B. True Iustifying Faith defined 1. Iustifying Faith is an assured knowledge or knowing assurance by the which euery one of the elected relieth vpon the Promises of the mercy of God in Christ Iesus firmely holding that Christ and eternall life together with all the merits of Christ are giuen to him to righteousnesse and eternall saluation Fides vnica indiuidua specie Haec Fides differt numero gradu 2. There is but one onely speciall iustifying Faith 3. This Faith differeth in number and degree 4. It is manifest there bee so many seuerall Faiths in number as there bee seuerall persons elected 5. One man is not saued by another mans Faith Mat. 26.74.75 17.17 Mat. 9.24 6. This Faith differeth in degrees small in one man and mighty in another Mat. 13.23 14.31 Act. 2.8 ca. 4. Mat. 15.28 Fides imperfecta Ad resistendum tamen diabolo sufficiens quare 7. The greatest Faith in this life is imperfect 1 Cor. 13.9 12. 8. Though it bee small and infirme yet it is sufficient to resist the Diuell by reason of the prayers and promises of Christ. 2 Cor. 5.1 Esa 53.11 Causa efficiens material 9. This Knowledge or Faith for they bee conuertible Ioh. 17.3 passeth all vnderstanding Eph. 3.14 c. 10. The Efficient cause of this Faith is the Spirit of God 11. The instrumentall ordinary cause is the preaching sincerely of the Word of God 12. God may worke extraordinarily Faith in the Elect without preaching by his Spirit Obiectum Fidei in genere specie 13. The obiect of Faith in generality is the whole Word of God in speciality the promises of God in Christ and his Merits 14. The formall cause is a confident relation to all the Word of God and certainty of saluation Formalis 15. The finall cause subordinate Finis subordinatus summus is the saluation of the Elect the chiefest end is the celebration of the mercy and iustice of God 16. The effects are concerning God our selues Effecta our neighbour God in truly seruing him our selues in wholy resting vpon him our neighbour in truly louing him 17. The subiect where Faith resteth is the heart Subiectum in quo residet Fides Adiuncta duo the vnderstanding and the will of man 18. The properties are two first that Faith bee aliue and not dead secondly that it bee perpetuall I. D. The first the thirteenth and the foureteenth I wholly and absolutely deny hauing fully
of you neither needed you in this point so to flourish with your Greeke or to make such a rumble with the names of Eusebius Sozomen Euagrius Dorotheus Vincentius and the rest But what my inward motiues haue beene and with what affection I haue proceeded in this businesse God and my owne conscience are a sufficient theater for your tongue is not the fanne of this floore And seeing my earnest protestation in my preface cannot perswade your vncharitable heart to entertaine a better opinion of my sincere and vpright meaning in this cause but that you will notwithstanding reckon me in the number of fanaticall spirits possessed with selfe-loue contention hypocrisie and couetousnesse condemning all other to set vp and stablish their owne fantasies I appeale vnto him who alone knoweth the heart and trieth the raines Ep. 69. ad Florent Pupian and say vnto you in the words of S. Cyprian These things haue I written out of a pure mind and conscience and with stedfast trust vpon my Lord and God You haue my letters I haue yours in the day of iudgement both shall bee rehearsed before the tribunall of Christ Whereas you intreat mee to deale in this graue cause well and as becommeth a wise man surely hitherto I haue indeuoured so to doe how well I haue performed it I leaue vnto the censure of the Church and specially of those vnto whom the Spirits of the Prophets are subiect In the meane season pardon mee if I feare none of those dangers you threaten vnto mee How your selfe will auoid them I cannot tell for neuer was there man wrote with lesse reason and more follie Treatise Three Faiths there seeme to be which lay claime and title to the priuiledge of iustification Faith of History Faith of promise and Faith of Person The first is an assent of the mind vnto the truth of Gods Word and specially the Gospell And this whether it bee Acquisite or Infused hath no interest in the matter of iustification For besides that is absurd generall knowledge should iustifie N. B. That you dare bee so bold to make such a distribution of Faith I impute it to your desire of nouelties Eph. 4. as you say in the words last betweene vs debated I tell you there is but one Faith and that a true and liuely working Faith Knowledge the beginning Application or Apprehension the Progresse Rest the end of Faith and this onely is iustifying Faith and comprehendeth your three nice distinctions and is compounded of them all conioyned together the first the beginning the second the progresse the third being the end I. D. It is not desire of noueltie in mee but loue of confusion in you that dare not haue those things distinguished which in their natures are diuided For distinction of that which is ambiguous Top. 1. c. vlt. saith Aristotle is the prime and most necessary principle both of defining and disputing well the neglect whereof insteed of profitable reasoning about matters of substance induceth fruitlesse contention and iangling about words Now that Faith is equiuocall and needeth distinction appeares first by reason for that it comprehendeth vnder it sometime more and sometime fewer things is both affirmed and denied of the same persons is a word of accident attributed to diuers Subiects not contained vnder one next Genus as to the Elect to Reprobates to Diuels Secondly by authority Ser. de temp 181. It is one thing to belieue a God another to yeeld beliefe vnto God another to belieue on God saith Augustine There is a kind of gift equiuocally called Faith saith Oecumenius In 1. Cor. 13. In 1. Cor. 12. Not Faith of doctrines but Faith of miracles saith Theophilact There is one Faith of Precepts another of Signes another of Promises saith Bernard The same among the latter writers confesseth Melancthon Martyr Kemnitius Hiperius Caluin Vrsin Foxe Perkins and who not Nay behold Saul himselfe also among the Prophets for besides that anon you acknowledge Faith sometime to bee spoken abusiuely and by an equiuocation you doe expresly both in your margent and text affirme that there are three kinds of Faith and approue the same distribution which here you condemne in me For all this I tell you say you there is but one Faith and that is iustifying Faith Shall I now say vnto you as elsewhere you doe vnto mee that you speake pure Bellarmine De Iustif l. 2. cap. 4. For indeed you vse the very language of that Iesuit Sectaries saith hee vnderstanding Protestants are wont to distinguish three faiths of history of miracles of promises but Catholicks teach that they are one and the same Faith and that iustifying Faith But doth not the Apostle in the place here quoted by you auouch that there is but one Faith yes verily but thereby in the iudgement of the best Diuines hee meaneth not that Faith whereby wee doe belieue but that which we doe belieue that is not the Habit but the Obiect of Faith as if hee should more plainely say there is but one Christian Religion And although in regard of the variety and multitude of materiall obiects there may seeme to bee not one but many Faiths yet because the formall reason wherefore we doe belieue them is but one namely diuine testimony and they are in such sort linked and woouen together that one Article cannot bee denied without the dissolution of the whole Creed all being according to the old rule one copulatiue it is therefore rightly and iustly called one Faith Finally where you say Faith comprehendeth my three nice distinctions and is compounded of them all I answer that such composition is altogether impossible for Faith of Story and Faith of Promise are in the Vnderstanding but Faith of Person is in the Will and it cannot be that one and the same Habit should bee subiectiuely in two seuerall faculties of so different natures For the Habit that is for example in Peter is one in number and that which is one in number is indiuisible and that which is indiuisible cannot bee at once in two Subiects because as Philosophie teacheth Numeration is from the plurality of Subiects This M. Perkins saw On the Creed and therefore saith Some doe place Faith partly in the Mind partly in the Will because it hath two parts Knowledge Affiance but it seemes not greatly to stand with reason that one particular and single Grace should bee seated in diuers parts or Faculties of the Soule And this also you cannot bee ignorant was answered in my treatise vnto the same obiection which obiection I maruell how you can with modestie and credit mention vnlesse withall you were prouided to satisfie my answer But seeing as Cicero saith of Hortensius when you haue ought to say you haue not the power to hold your peace Verrin 3. it is an euident and strong presumption now that you say nothing that you haue nothing to say N. B. Bleare not the eyes of Gods
Saints with your niceties and falsities any longer for thus you reason No historicall Faith hath any interest in the matter of Iustification But firmely to belieue the truth of Gods Word and specially the Gospell is historicall Faith Therefore firmely to belieue the truth of Gods Word and specially the Gospell hath no interest in the matter of Iustification Good Sir I deny your Maior which you thus endeuour to proue ab absurdo enumeratione partium No generall knowledge shall haue any stroke in the matter of Iustification All historicall Faith is a generall knowledge Therefore no historicall Faith hath any interest in the matter of iustification Proue your Minor which I denie telling you moreouer that firmely to consent to the truth of Gods Word in genere and the Gospell in Specie is not a Generall knowledge but a Speciall knowledge and therefore I argue Such a speciall knowledge of the Gospell is the beginning of Faith Iustifying Mat. 13.11 Ioh. 17.3 Mat. 16.17 But firmely to consent to the truth of Gods Word and the Gospell is such a speciall knowledge ex confesso Therfore firmely to consent to the truth of Gods Word and especially the Gospell is the beginning of Iustifying Faith I. D. If you were as farre from hood-winking your owne eyes as I am from blearing the eies of others you might easily perceiue that now I deale against our common aduersaries the Papists and ouerthrow the iustification of their Historicall Faith by the chiefest arguments which Protestants vse But you after the manner of those Gladiators called Andabatae nor see nor care whom or what you strike and so mildly affected are you towards mee that so you may make some probable shew of endammaging or disaduantaging mee you reck not though through my sides you reach and wound the best Diuines of our Church yea and the common truth which wee all maintaine Neither doe I vse such circumguagues nor wiredraw my arguments into such a length as you beare vs in hand but hauing nakedly and plainely defined what Historicall Faith is I proue by two reasons that Faith so defined doth not iustifie the first whereof is this because it is absurd that so generall a Knowledge should iustifie So that your Ferio Syllogisme deserues a Ferula and vtterly to bee cashed as being no creature of mine but an idle figment of your owne and the next in Celarent for so you forme it although indeed it bee also in Ferio the Minor proposition and Conclusion notwithstanding your generall notes being but particular enuntiations is the onely Syllogisme intended by mee and including my first argument The Maior whereof it seemes you grant saying nothing vnto it and the Minor only you deny which I cannot but wonder at seeing both the Minor and Conclusion are vniuersally vouched by all the Diuines of our side The Conclusion is that Historicall Faith iustifies not So saith Hyperius De fide Hom. iustificandi There is a certaine Historicall Faith whereby those things which are propounded in holy writ are simply beleeued but yet is not applyed vnto Christ and the matter of our Saluation Loco de Fide The Minor is that Historicall Faith is a generall Knowledge So sayth Kemnitius There is a certaine generall Faith which vsually is tearmed Historicall and againe Historicall Faith is a generall assent holding in generall that the promise of the Gospell is true And M. Perkins Ser. caus c. 36. A generall Faith whereby they giue assent vnto the Gospell Neither doe I know any one of our Diuines that either in the Conclusion or the Minor doth gainsay them So that by the iudgement of these men both consenting to Gods Word in generall and to the Gospell in speciall is not a Speciall but Generall Knowledge and if the Speciality of the Gospell being but a part of the whole Scripture did specify Faith it would follow thereupon that there are as many Speciall Faiths as there are seuerall Articles of the Creed which were vnreasonable to imagine For that Faith which assenteth vnto the Gospell is no other then that which assenteth vnto the rest of holy Scripture and although it may principally respect that part of diuine truth yet doth it not only respect it nor is limited thereunto as vnto the proper adequate obiect thereof but vniuersally extendeth it selfe vnto all supernaturall reuealed verities whatsoeuer As for that Faith which our Diuines call Speciall is to be vnderstood of Faith of Promises wherby the Saints apply and appropriate them vnto themselues particularly and indiuidually assuring themselues of their present iustification and future saluation And the ignorance hereof as I ween is the cause why you turne generall into speciall and write of this matter so wildly and confusedly This notwithstanding very peremptorily you pronounce that Historiall Faith is a speciall Knowledge and thereupon Syllogistically inferre that it is the Beginning of Iustifying Faith to what end I wot not well vnlesse it bee to proue that it doth iustify because as you conclude it is the beginning of that Faith But whatsoeuer your intent bee your argument I answer by distinguishing of the word Beginning For if you vnderstand thereby a Pre-requisite or Preparatiue vnto iustifying Faith you doe but fight with a shadow for in that sence I grant the Conclusion neither doth such a beginning of Iustifying Faith iustify If you meane thereby that it is Iustifying Faith inchoat and in a remisser degree then I deny your Maior and say that such a knowledge call it as you please generall or speciall is not the beginning of iustifying Faith If it were then Diuels and Reprobates hauing it should haue iustifying Faith which Gods Word attributes vnto the Elect onely Tit. 1.1 And if it bee true that Faith of person is the consummation of Iustifying Faith as in the former section you say it cannot bee that such a knowledge should bee the Beginning thereof vnlesse you will say that Accidents may passe from one Subiect to another which is against all Philosophy For Historicall Faith is in the Vnderstanding and Faith of Person is in the Will and therefore Faith of Story beginning in the Mind can haue no subsistence elsewhere and iustifying Faith being perfected in the Will cannot bee begunne in any other Subiect The passages quoted in the margent though you should rack them till they rent asunder yet will they not confesse what you alledge them for For how I pray you hang these things together To you it is giuen to know the mysteries of the Kingdome of heauen This is life euerlasting to know thee Flesh and Bloud hath not reuealed this vnto thee but my Father Ergo Such a knowledge is iustifying Faith begun This is too violent astraining of Scripture and as Volusian speaketh is not a sucking of milke but drawing of bloud from the dugs of the Church Ep. 1. ad Nic. 1. As for the Minor I haue already sufficiently demonstrated the falshood thereof only
reasons for Other writers saith hee I so read that how much soeuer they excell in holinesse and learning Ep. 19. ad Hieron I doe not therfore thinke any thing to be true because they iudge so but because they perswade me either by those Canonicall Authors or by probable reason not abhorring from truth Bellarmine vpbraiding Illyricus for his Coniectures is thus answered by learned Iunius Contrà Bell. de transl impl 1. c. 11. Bee not so hot I pray you against humane coniectures In a word whether wee would modestly shew our owne opinion or refell anothers wee deale humanely saying it is a coniecture but to vpbraid humane coniectures is meere inhumanity Dan. Cham. de oecum Pont. Nay Daniel Chamier a very learned late writer in his booke de oecumenico Pontifice doth professedly distinguish his arguments into Scripture Coniecture and Testimony and will you therefore say of him as you doe vnto mee that hee doubted of the truth of his cause determined to ensnare poore silly Readers and walked not recto pectore with an vpright conscience Reioinder to Brist reply But so it is I vse the very words of D. Fulk being almost in the same tearmes cauilled withall by blundering Bristow When you can say nothing against my assertion your selfe you would make mee vncertaine of it and say that it is but a light suspicion of mine because in one place before I come to the sound proofe of it I say it is a probable coniecture And doth it follow therefore that I doubt of it because I offer a probable coniecture vnto other mens vnderstanding before by order of discourse I am brought to the manifest probation of it Well yet if Probable like you not those that follow are Necessary and I feare mee you will bee able to say little to them that leaue this without answer and the weaker the argument the more disgrace to bee graueld by it But my purpose in vsing both was for the more strength and perswasion for as Pindar saith It is the surest and safest way in a tempestuous night to cast out of the ship two ankers Olymp. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 6. Treatise 2. Arg. That which is in time after iustifying Faith cannot bee that Faith This is vndeniable But this Particular knowledge is in time after that Faith This I proue out of 1 Ioh. 5.13 These things haue I written vnto you that belieue in the name of the Sonne of God that yee may know that yee haue Eternall life Behold Belieuing goes before and Knowledge comes after As for that which followeth in the same verse and that yee may belieue I interprete it of Perseuerance and growth in Faith Howsoeuer Belieuing and Knowing are here distinguished and therefore are not all one N. B. I deny your Minor neither doth that place of S. Iohn helpe you ought as wee shall see anon I tell you that iustifying Faith is a Particular Knowledge though in other tearmes by vs vsed and by the Scripture set downe So that where you say a man first belieueth and then knoweth wee say hee beleeueth that is hee particularly knoweth apprehendeth and applieth Christ to himselfe perpetually and liuely to his saluation So that Belieuing and particular knowing himselfe to bee elected are one and that it is this knowledge thus I argue I. D. Before you come to bestow a word or two vpon the Minor which you deny you thinke it good like a cunning and subtle disputer flatly to deny the Conclusion and peremptorily to auouch the Contradictory vnto it then very prodigally to wast a multitude of words in the proofe thereof A maruelous policy I promise you vtterly disabling me from farther replying for as much as Logicke it selfe giues no precept how a man may reply vpon him who denies the Conclusion and taking the Contradictory thereof as granted goes about thereby to disproue the Premises For so doe you when you say Faith is a knowledge and therefore goes not afore knowledge my reason being contrarily framed thus Faith goes before knowledge therefore is not knowledge Doubtles had you not had the heart of Zenodotus Martial and the liuer of Crates as the Poet saith you could neuer haue stumbled vpon so politicke a deuise But let vs heare your reasons N. B. What soeuer iustifieth a man is Faith Darij Esa 53.11 But particular knowledge iustifieth a man Therfore particular knowledge is Faith I proue the Minor out of the Scripture By the knowledge of himselfe saith the Lord shall my righteous seruant justify many Lo M. Downe here the knowledge of Christ iustifieth a man and is the same in effect and working that Faith is and therefore are they both one which you make to bee twaine by distinction and originall Your speech helpeth Bellarmine that saith Faith may bee rather in ignorantiá implicitâ in an ignorance couched then in explicitâ cognitione a discouered knowledge Tom. 3. de iustif l. 5. c. 7. I. D. Iud. 14.18 Seeing here you plow with my heifer as Samson sometime said vnto the Philistines how is it that you read not my riddle also I meane hauing borrowed this Obiection from my Treatise why take you not from thence the answer also Surely that you vrge the one so eagerly and so diligently suppresse the other I know no cause but this you knew not how to reply vnto it and therefore I will by your fauor repeate the same againe vntil you find out some forcible reason to driue me from it The verbs of vnder standing and sence in the Hebrew tongue signifie not onely the acts of them but of the will and affections also So Psal 1.6 the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous And Depart I know you not And I will not heare see c. that is God will not so know heare see as to loue and approue And so may I interpret that of the Prophet Christ being so knowne as to bee embraced and rested on by the will shall iustifie many Adde now that it is neither necessary nor likely your Particular knowledge should bee here ment for the Obiect of the Prophets knowledge is no other then Christ but the Obiect of your knowledge is your owne selfe or your present state in grace and future Saluation And what a senselesse speech doe you put into the mouth of the Prophet for by your glosse it is as if hee should say My righteous seruant by making many to know that they are already iustified shall bring many vnto that which already they haue namely iustification But Esay had in him both the Spirit of Wisdome and the Tongue of Eloquence and therefore pardon me if I cannot thinke he vsed to speake non-sense like you Where you say my speech helpeth Bellarmine who saith Faith may bee rather in ignorantiâ implicitâ in an ignorance couched then in explicitâ cognitione a discouered knowledge First Bellarmine hath no such words neither I thinke did hee euer dreame
righteousnesse Rom. 3.28 Consider moreouer that Faith as a cause goeth before Iustification for wee are iustified by Faith and therefore if the Elect bee wicked before his iustification hee must needs much more bee wicked before the first act of his Belieuing In regard whereof Saint Augustin saith Enar. in Ps 311 Know thou that Faith when it was giuen thee found thee a sinner These things being so as without controuersie they are I then demand of you if Faith bee Assurance what ground hath the Elect for his Assurance in the first Act of his Faith more then the Reprobates and wicked haue Certainly vnlesse you will flye with the Anabaptists vnto I know not what Enthusiasms and sudden reuelations grounded vpon no arguments formerly by the Holy Ghost imprinted in the soule you cannot possibly shew any seeing before Faith they lie together in the same masse of corruption and are alike liable vnto eternall damnation Now vnto this argument thus enlarged and explaned let vs see what answer you returne When I can shew the man that died without Assurance and was saued and how I know at his death hee had no full Perswasion and can proue that there is at the houre of death in the Saints a Doubtfull Faith then you say you will answer mee What M. Baxter and not till then Suppose I cannot satisfy your demands as indeed who knoweth what is in the heart of man at the houre of his death shall my argument therefore for euer stand vnanswered Declar. of Spir. Desert And yet M. Perkins telleth you that When a Professor of the Gospell shall despaire at his end men are to leaue secret iudgements vnto God and charitably iudge the best of him and hee instanceth in one M. Chambers who in his sicknesse grieuously despaired and cried out that hee was damned yet saith hee it is not for any to note him with the blacke marke of a Reprobate The like censure elsewhere giueth he of Francis Spiera Yea further saith hee When a Professor of the Gospell shall make away himselfe though it bee a fearefull case yet still the same opinion must bee carried So that it seemes by this learned mans iudgement who for ought I know is not singular herein but followeth the common opinion of other Diuines that it is possible for a man to die in Faith and so to bee saued and yet to die in Despaire and so without Assurance whence it followeth necessarily that Faith is not Assurance But this answer of yours Antholog l. 2 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 brings mee in minde of a pretie Epigram of Nicarchus which you may read in the Greeke anthologie A deafe man commences sute against another deafe man before a deafe iudge the plaintife pleads that the defendant owes him fiue months rent for his house the defendant answers for himselfe that hee had been grinding at mill all night the Iudge looking vpon them why contend yee thus good fellowes quoth hee is shee not mother to you both then keepe her both hardly Semblable hereunto is your answer for as if you were as blind as they were deafe and had not eyes in your head to read my writing when I speake of onions as it is in the Prouerbe you answer of garlicke and roue the whole heauen wide from the marke you should shoot at I say that the wicked may bee strongly perswaded and therefore Faith is not a Perswasion you like the deafe defendant reply that you haue beene grinding at mill all night telling mee I shall then receiue answer when I shew the man that died without Perswasion and yet was saued by Faith and other such stuffe of the same stampe Verily I am perswaded if old Sibyl or Oedipus or any other that hath anciently been esteemed for reading riddles should reuiue againe yet would they not bee able with all their cunning to deuise how to accommodate and fit this answer to any part of my argument For mine owne part I can make of it nor fish nor flesh nor good red herring and therefore not troubling my selfe with your follies here I leaue it as I found it vnkith vnkist as they say N. B. And in the meane time I will hasten to your Definition of Faith which you call the third kinde of Faith and onely Iustifying Faith I. D. Soft and faire no hast but good you post away so fast vnto the Definition that you leaue something behind you vnanswered which desires and deserues your further consideration For first I proue vnto you that Faith cannot be a full Perswasion certaine Assurance partly because it is not so much as Assurance partly because such Fulnes agrees not to little Faith and so makes the definition narrower and of lesse latitude then the definite and partly because it is a most discomfortable doctrine to weake Christians who finding this strength of Assurance wanting in themselues may doubt whether they haue any Faith at all if Faith bee no other then a full Assurance and firme resolution Againe I answer certaine obiections the chiefest you can haue against mee and that with such generall solutions as will cut off almost any reason you can oppose vnto mee These things being of such importance and consequence should not thus haue beene balked and husht vp in silence for while they stand vnstirred and vntoucht you cannot reasonably bee thought either fully to haue satisfied my arguments or sufficiently to haue maintained your owne cause Out of doubt therefore it would haue been much better for your credit to haue made lesse hast and more good speed for tripping away so fast and leauing matters of such weight vtterly vnanswered all the Schollers in our Countrey to blow backe your owne scoffe into your owne face will thinke the worse of your haste so long as they liue for this tricke To conclude this point whereas there are two many faults as Simplicius saith too vsually committed in the disputation and determination of Questions it appeareth by what I haue now said that you haue hitherto grossely faulted in the former For you doe but reiect and deny my Conclusions without refuting the confirmations I bring for them and so if not altogether alienate from you yet leaue in suspence and doubt the mind euen of those who otherwise might bee of the same opinion with you Now if you offend likewise in the second and doe not in the remainder of your Reply vtterly raze and ouerthrow the foundations of my Doctrine but suffer them to stand vnshaken and vnmoued you shall both leaue the thirst of your readers expectation vnquenched and vnsatisfied and proue your selfe but a bragging and boasting Pyrgopolinices threatning much and performing nothing Let vs therefore take a view hereof and see what you haue to say against the definition which I giue to Iustifying Faith Treatise The third Faith is Faith of Person or Personall Merit and of this Faith I make the Obiect to bee Christ the Mediator meriting the
source of all Rebellion and Disobedience N. B. Your Genus is that Faith iustifying is a Rest which is false when you speake more learnedly I will deigne you farther answer I. D. That Rest is not the Genus of Iustifying Faith I easily grant you for as appeares manifestly in my Treatise I make Affiance or which is all one Rest to bee the Act or Forme of Faith and not the Genus thereof If I had thought it fitting to haue troubled the Definition therewith I was not so ignorant but I could haue called it either an infused grace or a gratious habit or a Theologicall vertue but because the Philosopher taught me that Habits are sufficiently defined by their Acts in reference vnto their proper Obiects I held it needlesse to expresse it But suppose I had made it to be the right Genus how doe you disproue it Forsooth it is sufficient for such a Pythagoras as you are to say it is false an inexpiable wrong would it be to demand a reason of your sayings Onely you adde Plut. in vitâ Alex. that when I shall speake more learnedly you will deigne me farther answer Brauely againe spoken and Alexander-like for neither would hee being a King contend with any but Kings neither may you being so transcendent for your learning and surmounting the most of men as farre as the Sun doth the lesser lights without impeachment of honour vouchsafe disputation with any but your Peers much lesse with such a one as is scarce to bee found in any Predicament Yet seeing the Sunne so surpassing in glory is no way enuious of his light but imparteth bountifully of his beames to the enlightning of the rest of the starres it may please you also with whom wisdome must liue and dye Ioh. 12.2 out of your benignity to send forth some influence of your learning vpon mee that I may more cleerely discerne at least in this question betweene truth and that which is onely seeming so N. B. Shew mee for your warrant one place of Scripture that so tearmeth it any one Father of the Church old or new for these 1600. yeeres Greeks or Latins that will auouch it and I will yeeld to your Genus The Hebrew word for Faith and the Greek word whereof you haue heard before doe vtterly condemne you they both signifying a perswasion and an Assurance and neuer a Rest I maruell you will teach the Holy Ghost to speake and the Church now to vnderstand what Faith is and that by such a woodden Definition which may rather moue to choller then consent I. D. If by denying vnto mee the warrant of Scriptures of Fathers old and new Greeke and Latin for 1600. yeeres and of the Greeke and Hebrew words for Faith you intend to proue that Affiance or Rest is not the Genus of Faith it shall without more a-doo bee yeelded vnto you for as appeares in the former section I make it to bee not the Genus but the Act or Forme thereof But if you would thereby perswade that Rest or Affiance is not the Act of Faith I must tell you that these reasons are cleane out of date and that you doe too much abuse your Readers patience setting againe before him these Coleworts now more then twice sodden For both in the beginning of this disputation and in the last section saue two before this I haue throughly scanned cleered this businesse shewing that I am so farre from teaching the Holy Ghost to speake and the Church to vnderstand what Faith is as you vnchristianly lay vnto my charge that I vse no other tearme but that which the Spirit of God hath in Scripture sanctified to this purpose and the Holy Church hath euer spoken and vsed But because I am loth to pester my paper with so many Tautologies and needles repetitions as you vse to doe thither must I entreate the courteous Reader to repaire for satisfaction In the meane season seeing both by expresse testimony of Scripture and cleere euidence of reason I haue warranted euery part of my definition and yet you without disprouing the weakest of my proofes tauntingly call it a woodden Definition you must pardon mee if I tell you plainely that this wood-kinde of answering deserues to bee reformed with a little woodden correction But where you say my Definition may rather moue to choler then consent a man would thinke reading this your answer that either your principles were so incurably hurt or your braine dam'd and ram'd vp with such a deale of dull and tough flegme that it were as easy almost to remoue a mountaine as to moue you either to the one or the other And yet indeed I find you of a cleene contrary complexion euen the most pettish and waspish gentleman that euer I met withall euery small petty occasion stirs your choler and works you presently out of temper But because I see it is your impotency disease I beare with you the more praying you notwithstanding to haue as much patience as you may if at times for the purging of this humor I play the Physician and minister some small quantity of rheubarb vnto you N. B. For alas Master Downe what Rest can a man haue vpon Christ without Assurance to bee saued by his death and Passion and knowledge of his Lord and Sauiour A full assurance therefore as a cause worketh Rest vpon Christ as an effect and is therefore the Generall word in the Definition of Iustifying Faith I. D. Your argument if I mistake not standeth thus That which is an Effect of Assurance cannot be the Act of Faith But Resting vpon Christ is an Effect of Assurance Ergo it cannot bee the Act of Faith I distinguish of Assurance for it is either of the generall proposition or of the Speciall and indiuiduall of the Generall when wee are assured that Whosoeuer Belieueth on Christ shall bee iustified and saued of the Speciall when wee are certainly perswaded that We are iustified and shall bee saued If you meane the former then I deny the Maior for such Historicall Assurance is a necessary pre-requisite vnto Iustifying Faith and is the cause without which wee cannot belieue on Christ and therefore that which is such an effect of Assurance may bee the Act of Faith If you vnderstand the latter then doe I grant the Maior for if such Assurance be as I haue demonstratiuely proued it selfe the Effect of Faith it is more then manifest that That which is an effect of such Assurance cannot bee the Act of Faith But then I deny the Minor that Resting vpon Christ is an effect of such assurance affirming that contrarily Resting vpon Christ is the cause of such Assurance and Assurance is the Effect of that Resting But what rest say you can a man haue vpon Christ without Assurance to be saued by his Death Passion Surely vnlesse wee know his Death and Passion to bee the onely meanes of saluation wee cannot rest vpon him for it but to
or word Rest you shall hardly perswade mee that hee will take it for any other then the effect of true Iustifying Faith I. D. Neither is it your vaine surmising what Master Perkins would say Neither his expresse and direct saying that may be the decider of this controuersie How well that worthy man deserued of the Church of God wherein hee was like another Baptist both a shining and a burning torch Ioh. 5.35 I cannot bee ignorant who knew him so well and very vngratefull were I if I should not acknowledge to haue receiued a good part of that little skill I haue in my profession from his mouth hauing beene for sundry yeeres his ordinary auditor Yet because hee was not a Peter or a Paul nor so preserued from error by the Spirit of truth that hee could mistake in nothing I hope I may without arrogance and with reseruation of due reuerence honor vnto his worth in some points dissent from him And if you may seat Faith both in the vnderstanding and the will notwithstanding that M. Perkins place it only in the vnderstanding On the Creed affirming that it scarce standeth with reason that one single grace should inhere in two distinct faculties why may not I take the same liberty vnto my selfe and define Iustifying Faith by Affiance although M. Perkins would take it for no other then the Effect of Iustifying Faith for so indeed hee doth and I deny not but freely confesse that vpon the reasons aboue rendred I doe in this point altogether differ from him Neither yet did I say that I blanked him with my rare and cunning disputes for this is but the renewing of your old slander the vanity of which I haue already detected Onely it seemes that your best wine is wel-nie spent seeing now you serue your guests with these dregs and that you are driuen to a very narrow strait when you are faine to arme against me such base calumniations and fictions of your owne braine N. B. When you send me to Master Foxe in his Booke de Christo gratis justificante without citing the place where or the words what of mee your speech deserueth none answer but this I dare vndertake you abuse the writings of so reuerend a man I. D. The authority of Master Foxe was not vouched by me to iustify my Definition that Faith is Affiance but to ouerthrow yours who affirme that Faith is Assurance and therefore was placed as was fitting after those arguments which I vrged against you Neuerthelesse here it pleaseth you after your desultory and disorderly manner of disputing in a very vndue place to giue answer vnto it And the reason why with such violence you hale it hither as I guesse is this that not appearing where it should it may seeme to giue no euidence at all against your Assurance and being ordered where it should not it may seeme to bee but idly alledged as being of no force to maintaine my Affiance But yet let vs see what exceptions you take to eleuate this authority Because I cite not the place where nor the words what my speech you say deserues no answer I wisse M. Baxter that booke is not of such bulke but that perusing the titles of each Chapter you might soone haue found out the places by me intended and you know that the schedule I sent you being endited at Bristoll where I was farre from my bookes I could not possibly referre you vnto the very page and line as otherwise I would haue done But now because I haue the booke at hand I will set you downe his direct words and quote you the page where you may read them and then leaue you to bee iudge your selfe whether as you charge mee I abuse the writings of that reuerend man or hee agree with mee in this that Faith is not Assurance Foxe Master Foxe therefore in his booke de Christo gratis iustificante pag. 246 saith thus My iudgement and opinion is that this confidence of mercy and certainty of Saluation promised is a thing which ought to bee very neerely conioined with Faith and which euery one ought necessarily to apply vnto himselfe yet being most applied is not that which onely by it selfe properly and absolutely dischargeth vs of our sinnes and iustifies before God but that there is some other thing propounded in the Gospell which in nature goeth before this certainty and iustifieth before God For Faith vpon the Person of the Sonne of God whereby wee are first reconciled vnto God necessarily goes before Againe pag. 253. Although saith hee certainty and assurance of diuine grace which it selfe is sometime commended vnder the name of Faith bee very neerely ioined with Faith yet this assurance doth not properly import the cause of iustifying but receiueth it being brought neither worketh iustification but is rather wrought by it and maketh them certaine who by the Faith of Christ are iustified but it selfe iustifieth not And yet againe pag. 255. If the question bee of the cause which properly iustifieth from sinne I answer it is that Faith not whereby wee belieue that wee are iustified but whereby wee belieue in Christ the Sonne of God Thus M. Foxe and thus by M. Foxe it appeareth as I affirmed that in this point I am not singular and alone Yet to preuent captious cauils you may bee pleased to vnderstand that the Latin word vsed by Master Foxe to wit Fiducia I haue in my translation englished Confidence and Assurance not that I was afraid lest rendring it Affiance hee might seeme to exclude my affiance also from the Definition of Faith for had hee done so it were nothing to mee hauing shewed that hee denies Faith to be Assurance which was all I there affirmed of him but because if you marke his words attentiuely you shall find that by Fiducia hee vnderstands not Affiance but confident Perswasion or Assurance for hee doth euer confound it with Certainty and expresly defines it to bee that whereby wee are assured of our iustification by Christ So doth Melancthon also and Kemnitius and many others vnderstanding by Fiducia a firme Perswasion that our sinnes are certainly remitted by the propitiation of Christ and all the benefits of the promise of grace giuen communicated and applyed vnto vs. So that vnlesse I would haue depraued my authors meaning I could not translate otherwise then I haue done N. B. Now thinke not that I hold that a man ordinarily saued may be saued without relying vpon Christ Iesus for I hold the cleane contrary viz. that true Iustifying Faith assuring a man in spirituall knowledge of his owne saluation in Iesus Christ worketh and causeth a sweet rest and reposing of the whole soule vpon Christ and his Merits But I deny that this Rest is Faith or this Faith Rest no more then the tree can be the fruite or the fruite the tree I. D. That no man can ordinarily bee saued without Relying vpon Christ I grant for according to my
tell you the promise is not conditionall O hominis acumen argumentum lepidum O yee noble Schollers Wo vnto you You cannot escape Gods hand Quite contrary is this to your knowledge and conscience Goe dispute with Iesus Christ and tell him his Father deliuereth a blasphemous absurdity All Fathers all Writers old and new Greeke and Latin for 1600. yeeres besides many other such peremptory and confident speeches Instit Orator l 6. c. 5. Quintilian thought it scarce worthy to bee remembred in his Institutions that his Orator bee not turbulent and tumultuous as are they who are vnlettered and therefore I maruell how you who would bee counted as wise as Thales could forget your selfe so much as to imitate base barristers and pettifoggers Saue only Declam 18. as the same Quintilian saith it was necessary to auouch with as much contention of voice as might bee that which otherwise you could not proue that what affirmation it could not haue from truth it might receiue from your manner of speaking But Vanity saith Saint Augustin De ciuit Dei l. 5. c. 27. is wonderfull talkatiue yet is not therefore so powerfull as verity for if shee list shee can also bee lowder then verity For the shallower the brooke the more the murmure and the emptier the caske the greater the sound And therefore I would wish the Reader not to bee terrified with Torrents Enar. in Ps 57. as Saint Augustin speaketh whose waters make a noise for a time but presently will cease and cannot long continue For doubtlesse if they of the hot and dry countreyes of Tema and Sabaea repaire hither in hope to satisfy and quench their thirst Iob. 6.19.20 they shall as Iob saith returne confounded and ashamed because their brother hath deceiued them as a brooke and as the rising of riuers which suddenly are dryed vp and faile out of their places Iudg. 16.17 These Master Baxter are the Topicall places whence all your arguments are deduced and if I may so say the fiue locks wherein your chiefest strength lyeth What impressions they may haue made in the minds of simple people I cannot tell Plaut Paen. Hor. l. 1. Ep. 7. Perhaps they that cannot discerne betweene Conicall and true gold will bee content to receiue Lupins insteed of currant money and sounding words for sound proofes And indeed it is the manner of the vnskilfull vulgar though reiected and refused as most incompetent yet to beare themselues as iudges in euery cause how weighty soeuer and without taking any knowledge at all of the right issue to pronounce him ouercome that holds his peace and him to haue answered that hath not held his peace the controuersie to bee doubtfull or undecidable if both parties haue sayd alike much whither side speakes with more reason neither doe they attend and if they doe yet can they not vnderstand And because Vanity De ciuit Dei l. 5. c. 27. as wee haue obserued out of Saint Augustin is euermore talkatiue then verity and hee seemeth vnto them to haue spoken best who hath said most therefore doe they for the most part giue sentence against the truth for vaine talking But howsoeuer simple and ignorant people may iudge sure I am they that are wise and learned will esteeme the course you haue taken rather preiudiciall then any way auaileable vnto your cause For should a man as Iob saith Iob. 13.7 talke deceitfully for Gods cause or is the strength of truth so empaired that shee can no longer stand but by such wrie and sinister meanes Nay verily but shee is still of so noble and hautie a nature that shee scorneth to haue her conquests empeached by so base and dishonorable succors Deprauing of the aduersaries words and meaning impertinent digressions dissembling of his reasons and answers vnchristian reuelling and reproaching and tumultuous hoobubs and outcries are the vsuall weapons of those who resolue to fight in vnrighteous quarels But truth being pure and simple will not and standing firme vpon her owne base needs not and because falshood hath no subsistence but only by her cannot bee assisted and supported by such vniust and fraudulent policies Although therefore as I haue said these meanes may bee forcible inough to seduce and beguile simple people yet they that are wise and iudicious know that naked truth neuer comes disguised either in a Wolues or Foxes case but prudently discerning and separating betwixt passionate speeches and found reasons Rhetoricall flourishes and Logicall demonstrations vnnecessary circumstances and substantiall matter iudge alwayes of controuersies not by what is confidently said and affirmed but by what is reasonable alledged and proued And whosoeuer thou bee Christian Reader that art in this sort affected and qualified Deut. 33.8 Exod. 28.30 Mal. 2.7 especially if thou bee the man of Gods mercies vpon whose heart the Lords Vrim and Thummim are set whose lips preserue knowledge and at whose mouth the Law is to bee sought because thou art the Angell of the Lord of Hosts to thee and to thy vpright and vnpartiall censure doe I most humbly submit my selfe and my whole proceedings in this cause If thou approue Ps 141.5 it shall the more confirme and settle mee in the truth if thou reproue it shall not breake my head but bee vnto mee a most soueraigne and pretious ointment Iudge therefore betweene vs both indifferently and freely and the Lord giue thee a right iudgement in all things 2 Tim. 2.7 And thus Master Baxter haue you at length my whole and entire Apologie not importunately and violently wrested from mee as you say your Answer was from you but voluntarily of mine owne accord endited for the information and satisfaction of those who earnestly expect the issue of this combat Whereby the prudent and discreet Reader and I hope your selfe also may perceiue how small cause you had so vnseasonably to sing your Paean in your Prologue and to trumpet out victory before you were entred in the lists If for all this as yet you rest vnsatisfied the fault is your owne and not mine Eurip. for I cannot as Euripides saith fill him that is not staunch powring wise sayings into a man that is not wise And yet it may bee your Conscience and inward man are fully satisfied although ambition and vaine glory cause you to dissemble it If without all paraphrase and circumlocution I call a spade a spade and giue the right name vnto euery thing I beseech you beare a little with the ingenuity of my nature Plut. Apophth wee Macedonians are somewhat rude And yet I would haue you know that it is not so much your ignorance as your insolency which I inueigh against For Yuo Viliomar in Rob. Tit. as a late learned Humanist writeth There is no mortall man but is in some degree tainted with ignorance and this contagion haue wee drawne from mortality it selfe for man when hee erreth erreth because hee is a man
iustice but as it is an exercise or declaration or perfection of Faith 12 Concerning the word Faith sometimes it signifieth that sanctifying grace of Gods spirit whereby wee beleeue in or on God that is put all our affiance vpon God in Christ for Iustification and Saluation sometimes a naked assent or agreeing to all the truths contained in the Scripture specially such as are Euangelicall That is only of the Elect this the Diuels haue That either hath works following it as in Abraham or is great in child of works ready to trauell and bring forth if God giue time as in the theefe on the crosse This many times is without works and therefore dead and spiritles Of that S. Paul speaketh of this S. Iames. That sole but not solitary iustifies this being solitary iustifies not 13 In a word S. Paul speaks of the cause of Iustification S. Iames of the Effect S. Paul descends from the Cause to the Effect S. Iames ascends from the Effects to the Cause S. Paul resolues how wee may bee iustified S. Iames how wee may bee knowne to bee iustified S. Paul excludes works as being no Cause of Iustification S. Iames requires works as fruites of Iustification S. Paul denies works to go before them that are to bee iustified S. Iames affirmeth that they follow him that is iustified 14 Others distinguish and reconcile them thus Iustification is sometime vnderstood without implying Sanctification sometime as it implyeth also Sanctification with it In the former sence S. Paul taketh it when hee proueth that a man is iustified by Faith without works S. Iames in the latter when he concludeth that a man is iustified by works and not by Faith only And this I suppose to be a very sound interpretation 15 Howsoeuer that Faith alone without the works of the Law in the sence aboue deliuered doth iustifie these ancient Fathers auouch together with us Origen Cyprian Eusebius Caesariensis Hilarie Basil Chrysostome Ambrose Augustin Cyril Primasius Hesychius Gennadius Oecumenius whose direct and expresse words I can at any time produce Nay these late Papists also least it should be thought that none but Protestants hold it the Canons of Collein the authors of the booke offered by Caesar vnto the Protestant Collocutors in the assemblie of Ratisbon Pighius Cassander Stapulensis Peraldus Ferus and others who count themselues as good Catholiks as they that hold otherwise 16 And this only Faith is so sure an anchor of our soules and such● fountaine of true comfort both in life and death that Charles the fift Steuen Gardiner Sir Christopher Blunt and sundrie others durst not at their death trust vnto their works but vnto Faith in Christ only And Cardinal Bellarmin after a long disputation touching the merit of works is faine to conclude that because of the vncertenty of our owne iustice and the danger of vaineglory the Safest course is to repose all our affiance in the only mercy and goodnes of God So that in his iudgement wee Protestants haue chosen the Safest course I for my part will neuer trust my soule vnto them who leauing so safe a course meane to hazard it through a more dangerous way OF THE AVTHORS AND AVTHORITY OF THE CREED AND WHY IT IS CALLED a Symbole THE inscription of the Creed seemes to father it on the holy Apostles calling it the Symbole of the Apostles So doe almost all the Fathers of the fourth age after Christ and downeward affirming that the Apostles hauing receiued the Holy Ghost at Ierusalem and being now ready to disperse themselues into all parts of the world to preach the Gospell thought it good before their parting to compile this Symbole that it might serue as a pledge of their vnity in the Faith and a canon for their doctrine and teaching Yea some of them proceed so farre as particularly to set downe what article was made by what Apostle whereof see Augustin in his hundred and fifteenth Sermon de tempore Now although it bee very hard for mee to sway against the streame of so maine authority yet can I not but doubt thereof Paraphr in Mat. Praef. and confesse with Erasmus I know not who made the Creed especially hauing so great probabilities for demonstrations I dare not call them that it should not bee done by the twelue Apostles For first were it compiled by them is it likely that Saint Luke writing the history of their Acts would haue omitted so principall a matter Sundry other things of farre lesse consequence hee hath carefully recorded but of this so important and weighty a businesse hee makes not so much as one word mention which certainly hee would neuer haue failed to doe had they done so Adde hereunto that not one of the ancient Fathers who liued within the three first Centuries of Christ speake of any such thing in any of their writings and yet they should best know it whose times were neerest vnto the Apostles This deep silence both of Saint Luke and all those ancient Doctors make it vnto mee more then probable that the Apostles neuer composed it Secondly as the silence of these worthies so the very language of the Creed conuinceth it to bee yonger then the Apostles For the word Catholike vsed in the Creed was not knowne in their time Can any man thinke that the Church should then bee called Catholike when it was not Catholike For when they say this Creed was compiled the Church was scarce begunne among the Iewes and the Apostles had no where as yet preached the Gospell among the Gentils But heare the expresse words of Pacianus Bishop of Barcilona Sed sub Apostolis Ad Sympronian Epist 1. inquies nemo Catholicus vocabatur Esto sic fuerit Vel illud indulge cum post Apostolos haereses extitissent diuersisque nominibus columbam Dei atque Reginam lacerare per partes scindere niterentur nonne cognomen suum plebs Apostolica postulabat quo incorrupti populi distingueret vnitatem neintemeratam Dei virginem error aliquorum per membra laceraret In the Apostles times you will say no man was called Catholicke Bee it so Yet by your leaue when after the Apostles heresies were risen vp and by diuersity of names they laboured to rent and teare in peeces the done and queene of God was it not requisite that those which were Apostolike should haue a sirname of their owne whereby the vnity of those that are vncorrupt might bee distinguished and the error of none might rent in peeces the immaculate virgin of God Thus hee Against which if it bee obiected that the Epistles of Iames Peter Iohn and Iude are called Catholicke I answer the Inscriptions and Subscriptions of the Epistles are not Apostolicall but added to them by some other and sometime vntruly Neither is there any reason they should bee so stiled aboue the rest For neither is the doctrine contained in them more Catholicke then of all the other Epistles neither were they written to all the