desyre eueÌ„ so to be tried But vvhy throvv you avvaye these balance and being so earnestly requyred vvhy be ye so loth to shevv forth but one olde doctour of your syde ye make me beleue ye vvould not haue the matter comme to tryall etc. 26 VVhat thinke ye is there novv iudged of you that being so long tyme requyred yet can not be vvonne to bring one sentence in your ovvn defence Fol. 26. I protest before God bring me but one sufficient authoritie in the matters I haue requyred and aftervvard I vvil gentilly and quietly conferre vvith you farther at your pleasure VVherefore for as much as it is goddes cause if ye meane simply deale simply betraie not your right if ye maye saue it by the speaking of one vvorde The people must nedes muse some vvhat at your silence and mistrust your doctrine if it shall appeare to haue no grovvnde neither of the olde councelles nor of the doctours nor of the scripture nor any alovved example of the primitiue churche to stand vpon and so fiften hundred yeres and the consent of antiquitie and generalitie that ye haue so loÌ„g and so much talkte of shall comme to nothing For thinke not that any vvise man vvill be so much your frend that in so vveighty matters vvill be satisfied vvith your silence Here I leaue putting you In the ende of the 2. ansvver to D. C. fol. 27. eftsones gently in remembraunce that being so osteÌ„ and so openly desyred to shevv forth one doctour or Councell etc. in the matters a fore mencioned yet hitherto ye haue brought nothing and that if ye stand so still it must needes be thought ye doo it conscientia imbecillitatis for that there vvas nothing to be brought You saye vve lacke stuffe to proue our purpose In the reply to D. Coles last letter fol. 43. O vvould to God your stuffe and oures might be layed together then shuld it sone appeare hovv true it is that ye saye and hovv faithfully ye haue vsed the people of God Me thinketh bothe reason and humanitie vvould Fol. 44. ye shuld haue ansvvered me sumvvhat specially being so ofteÌ„ and so openly required at the least you shuld haue alleaged Augustine Ambrose Chrysostome Hierome etc. VVhereas a man hath nothing to saye it is good reason he kepe silence as you doo You knovv that the matters that lie in question betvveÌ„ vs haue ben taught as vve novv teache them Fol. 53. bothe by Christ him self and by his Apostles and by the olde doctours and by the auncient generall Councelles and that you hauing none of these or like authorities haue set vp a religion of your ovvne and built it only vpon your selfe Therefor I may iustly and truly â—â—â—nclude that you novv teache and of long tyme haue taught the people touching the Masse the Supremacie the commen prayers etc. is naught For neither Christ nor his Apostles nor the olde Doctours Tertulliane Cypriane S. Hierome S. Augustine S. Ambrose S. Chrisostom etc. euer taught the people so as you haue taught them Not vvithstanding your great vavvntes that ye haue made ye see novv ye are discomfyted Fol. 62. ye see the field is almost lost vvhere ar novv your crakes of doctours and councelles VVhy stampe ye not your bookes vvhy comme ye not forth vvith your euidence Novv ye stand in nede of it novv it vvill serue and take place if ye haue any Fol. 65. As I haue offred you oftentymes bring ye but tvvo lines of your syde and the field is yours Fol. 110. Hilarius sayeth vnto the Arians cedo aliud Euangelium shevv me some other gospell for this that ye bring helpeth you not Euen so vvill I saye to you Cedo alios doctores shevv me some other doctours for these that ye bring are not vvorthy the hearing I hoped ye vvould haue comme in vvith some fressher bande It must nedes be some miserable cause that can fynde no better patrones to cleaue vnto I knovv it vvas not for lacke of good vvill of your part ye vvould haue brought other doctours if ye could haue fovvnd them Fol. 112. O Master Doctour deale simply in Gods causes and saye ye haue doctours vvhen ye haue them in dede and vvhen ye haue them not neuer laye the fault of not alleaging them to the defence of your doctrine in your recognisaunce Fol. 114. But alas small rhetorike vvould suffise to shevv hovv litle ye haue of your syde to alleage for your selfe In the conclusion of the replyes to D. Cole fol. 129. Here once againe I conclude as before putting you in remembrance that this long I haue desyred you to bring forth some suâ—â—â—â—ent authoritie for prouf of your partie and yet hitherto can obteine nothing VVhich thing I must nedes novv pronounce simply and plainely because it is true vvith out if or and ye doo conscientia imbecillitatis because as ye knovv there is nothing to be brought THE PREFACE TO Maister Iuell THIS heape of Articles which you haue layde to gether Maister Iuell the greater it ryseth the lesse is your aduantage For whereas you require but one sentence for the auouching of any one of them all the more groweth your number the more enlarged is the libertie of the answerer It semeth you haue conceiued a great confidence in the cause and that your aduersaries so it liketh you to terme vs whom God hath so stayde with his grace as we can not beare you coÌ„panie in departing from his catholike churche haue litle or nothing to saye in their defence Els what shuld moue you both in your printed Sermon and also in your answeres and Replyes to Doctour Cole to shew such courage to vse such amplification of wordes so often and with such vehemencie to prouoke vs to encounter and as it were at the blast of a trumpet to make your chalenge What feared you reproche of dastardnes if you had called forth no more but one learned maÌ„ of all your aduersaries and therefore to shew your hardynesse added more weight of wordes to your proclamatioÌ„ and chalenged all the learned men that be a lyue In the sermoÌ„ fol. 46 Among cowardes perhappes it serueth the tourne some tymes to looke fiercely to speake terribly to shake the weapon furiously to threaten bloudily no lesse then cutting hewing and killing but amoÌ„g such we see many tymes sore frayes foughten and neuer a blowe geuen With such bragges of him self and reproche of all others Homer the wisest of all poetes setteth forth Thersites for the fondest man of all the Grecians that came to Troye Goliath the giaunt so stoute as he was made offer to fight but with one Israelite 1. Reg. 17. Eligite ex vobis vituÌ„ descendat ad singulare certamen Choose out a man amongst you quoth he and let him come and fight with me man for man But you Maister Iuell in this quarell aske not the combate of one catholike man
wyne in his house then for as much as Egesippus who was not long after him witnesseth of him that he neuer dranke wyne but at our lordes supper But because perhappes oure aduersaries will caste some myste ouer these allegations to darken the truth with theire clowdy gloses which be cleare ynough to quiet and sobre wittes that geue eare to the holy ghost speaking to vs by the mowth of the churche I will bring forth such witnesses and proufes for this purpose out of auncient fathers as by no reason or Sophisticall shifte they shall be hable to auoyde Many of the places that I alleged in the article before this for priuate communion may serue to his purpose very well and therfore I will not lette to recite some of them here also Milciades that constant martyr of Christ and bishop of Rome ordeined that sundry hostes prepared by the consecrating of a bishop shuld be sent abroade among the churches and parishes that christen folke who remayned in the catholike faith might not through heretikes be defrauded of the holy SacrameÌ„t Which can none other wise be taken then for the forme of breade onlye because the wine can not conueniently be so caryed abroade froÌ„ place to place in small quantitie for such vse much lesse any long tyme be kepte with out corruption The councell of Nice decreed Can. 14. that in churches where neither bishop nor priest were present the deacons them selues bringe forth and eate the holy communion Which lykewise can not be referred to the forme of wine for cause of sowring and corruption if it be long kepte Where oftentymes we finde it recorded of the fathers that christen people in tyme of persecution receiued of the priestes at church in fyne linnen clothes the sacrament in sundry portioÌ„s to beare with them and to receiue it secretly in the morninge before other meate as their deuotion serued theÌ„ for the same cause and in respectes of other circumstances it must of necessitie be taken onely for the kynde or forme of breade The places of Tertullian and saint Cyprian be knowen Lib. 2. ad vxorem Tertullian writing to his wife exhorteth her not to marye agayne specially to an infidell if he dye before her for that if she doo she shall not be hable at all tymes for her husband to doo as a christen womaÌ„ ought to doo Will not thy husband know sayeth he what thou eatest secretly before all other meate and in case he doo know it he will beleue it to be bread not him who it is called-Saint Cyprian writeth in his sermon de lapsis that when a woman had gonne aboute with vnworthy handes to open her cofer wher the holy thing of oure lord was layde vp she was made affrayde with fyre that rose vp from thence as she durst not touch it Which doubteles must be taken for that one kynde of the Sacrament The examples of keping the holy Sacrament vnder the forme of bread onely to be in a redines for the sycke and for others in tyme of danger that they might haue their necessarie vitaile of lyfe or viage prouision with them at their departure hence be in maner infinite Here one or two may serue in stede of a number For though M. Iuell maketh his vaunt that we haue not one sentence or clause for proufe of these articles which he so defaceth with his negatiue yet I will not accumulat this treatise with tediouse allegation of auctorities S. Ambrose at the houre of death receiued the communion vnder one kynde kepte for that purpose as it appeareth by this testimonie of Paulinus who wrote his life And because it may be a good instruction to others to dye well I will here recite his wordes At the same tyme as he departed from vs to oure lorde from about the eleueÌ„th howre of the day vntill the howre that he gaue vp the ghost stretching abroade his handes in maner of a crosse he prayed We sawe his lippes moue but voice we heard none Horatus a priest of the churche of Vercelles being gonne vp to bedde heard a voice three tymes of one calling him and saying to him aryse and haste the for he will departe hence by and by Who going downe gaue to the sainte oure lordes bodye which taken and swalowed downe he gaue vp the ghost hauing with him a good voiage prouision so as the soule being the better refreshed by the vertue of that meate maye now reioyse with the companie of Angelles whose life he leade in the earth and with the felowship of Elias Ecclesias hist lib. 6. cap. 44. Dionysius Alexandrinus aboute the yere of oure lord 200. as Eusebius Caesariensis reciteth manifestly declareth how that an olde man called Serapion was houseled vnder one kinde at his ende This Serapion after that he had layen speacheles three dayes sent for the Sacrament The priest for sickenes not hable to come him selfe gaue to the ladde that came of that errant a litle of the sacrament commaunding him to weate it and so being moisted to powre it in to the oldes mannes mowth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 this much is expressed by the wordes there as the greke is to be constrewed The ladde being retourned home moisted with some liquour that diuine meate to serue the olde man with all lying now panting for desyre to be dimissed hence and to haste him awaye to heauen and powred it in to his mowth For that this old mannes mowth and throte had long ben drye by force of his sikenes the priest who had experience in that case prouidently gaue warning to moyste the Sacrament with some liquoure and so together to powre it in to his mowth Which was so done by the ladde as Dionysius expresseth Now if the forme of wine had then also ben brought by the ladde to be ministred there had ben no nede of such circumstance to procure the olde man a moisture to swallowe downe that holy foode And that this was the maner of ministring the Sacrament to old men at their departing it appeareth by record of Theodoritus who wryteth in his ecclesiastical storye how one Bassus an archepriest ministred vnto an olde maÌ„ called Simeones of great fâ—me for his holynes Bassus sayeth he as he visited his churches chaunced vpoÌ„ holy Simeones that woonder of the world lying sicke who through feblenes was not hable to speake nor moue When Bassus sawe he shuld dye he geueth him his rightes before But after what sorte it is to be marked Spongia petita Simeoni os humectat atque eluit ac tum ei diuinum obtulit Sacramentum He calleth for a sponge sayeth Theodoritus and therewith moysteth and washeth Simeones mowth and then geueth him the holye Sacrament If at that tyme the receiuing of the sacred cuppe had ben in vse such procuring of moisture for the better swallowing downe of the SacrameÌ„t vnder the one kynde had ben needles Amphilochius that worthy bishop of Iconium in Lycaonia of
only but as one suer of the victory before proufe of fight cast your gloue as it were and with straunge defyaunce prouoke all learned mē that be a lyue to campe with you Now if this matter shall so fall out as thouerthrowe appeare euidently on our syde and the victory on youres that is to witte if we can not bring one sentence for proufe of any one of all these articles out of the scriptures aunciēt councelles doctours or example of the primitiue churche yet wise and graue men I suppose would haue lyked you better if you had meekely and soberly reported the truth For truth as it is playne and simple so it needeth not to be set forth with bragge of high wordes You remember that old saying of the wise Simplex veritatis oratio the vtteraunce of truth ought to be simple But if the victory loth I am to vse this insolēt word were it not to folow the metaphore which your chalenge hath dryuen me vnto fall to our syde that is to saye if we shalle be hable to alleage some one sufficient sentēce for proufe of some one of all these articles yea if we shall be hable to alleage diuerse and sundry sentences places and authorities for confirmation of sundry these articles In this case I wene you shall hardly escape amōg sober mē the reproche of rashnes among humble men of presumptiō among godly men of wickednes Of rashnes for what can be more rashe then in so weighty matters as some of these articles import so boldly to affirme that the contrary where of may sufficiētly be proued of presumption for what can be more presumptuouse then in matters by you not thoroughly sene and weighed to impute ignoraunce and vnablenes to auouche thinges approued and receiued by the churche to all learned men a lyue Of wickednes for what is more wicked then the former case standing so to remoue the hartes of the people from deuotion so to bring the churche in to contempte so to set at nought the ordinances of the holy ghost As you folow the new and straunge doctrine of Theodorus Beza and Peter Martyr the prolocutours of the Caluinian churches in Fraunce whose scolar a long tyme you haue ben so you diuerte farre from that prudencie sobrietie and modestie which in their owtward demeanour they shewed in that solemne and honorable assemble at Poyssi in September 1561. as it appareth by the oration which Beza pronunced there in the name of all the Caluinistes In which oration with humble and often protestation they submitte them selues if cause shall so appeare to better aduise and iudgement as thoug they might be deceiued vttering these and the like wordes in sundry places If we be deceiued we would be gladde to know it Item For the small measure of knowledge that it hath pleased God to impart vnto vs it semeth that this transubstantiation etc. Item if we be not deceiued Item In case we be deciued we would be gladde to vnderstād it etc. But you Maister Iuell as though you had readde all that euer hath ben writtē in these pointes and had borne a waye all that euer-hath ben taught and were ignorant of nothing touching the same and none other besyde you had sene ought and were hable to saye ought saye meruelouse confidently and that in the most honorable and frequent audience of this Realme that you are well assured that none of your learned aduersaries no nore all the learned men a lyue shall euer be hable to alleage one sentence for any one of these Articles In the sermō fol. 49 and that because you know it therefor you speake it least happely your hearers shuld be deceiued Likewise in your answere to Doctour Coles first letter you saye speaking of these Articles you thought it best to make your entre in your preaching with such thinges Fol 6. as where in you were well assured we shuld be hable to fynde not so much as any colour or shadow of Doctours at all Where in you withdraw your self from plainenesse so much as you doo in your presumptuouse chalenge from modestie For being demaunded of D. Cole why you treate not rather of matters of more importāce then these Articles be of which yet lye in question betwixt the churche of Rome and the protestantes as of the presence of Christes body and bloud in the Sacrament of Iustification of the valew of good workes of the sacrifice of the Masse and of such other not vnwitting how much and how sufficient authoritie maye be brought against your syde for proufe of the catholike doctrine there in least all the world shuld espye your weakenes in these pointes you answer that you thought it better to begynne with smaller matters as these Articles be because you assure your self we haue nothing for cōfirmation of them Thus craftely you shifte your handes of those greater pointes wherin you know scriptures councelles doctours and examples of the primitiue churche to be of our syde and cast vnto vs as a bone to gnaw vpō this number of Articles of lesse weight a fewe excepted to occupie vs withall Which be partly concerning order rather then doctrine and partly sequeles of former and cōfessed truthes rather thē principall pointes of faith in th'exact treatie of which the aunciēt doctours of the churche haue not imployed their studie and trauaile of writing For many of thē being sequeles depending of a confessed truth they thought it needelesse to treate of them For as much as a principall point of truth graunted the graunting of all the necessarie sequeles is implyed As in a chayne Epist ad Gregoriū fratrem which comparison S. Basile maketh in the like case he that draweth the first lynk after him draweth also the last lynke And for this cause in dede the lesse number and weight of such auncient auctorities may be brought for th'auouching of thē And yet the thinges in them expressed be not iustly improued by any clause or sentence you haue sayde or vttered hytherto Verely M. Iuell if you had not bē more desyrouse to deface the catholike churche then to set forth the truth you would neuer haue rehearced such a long rolle of articles which for the more part be of lesse importance whereby you go about to discredite vs and to make the world beleue we haue nothing to shew for vs in a great part of our Religion and that you be to be taken for zelouse men right reformers of the churche and vndoubted restorers of the gospell As touching the other weighty pointes whereupon almost only your scoolemaisters of Germanie Suityerland and Geneua bothe in their preachinges and also in their writinges treate you will not yet aduenture the triall of them with making your matche with learned men and in the meane tyme set them forth by sermōs busyly among the vnlearned and simple people vntill such tyme as you haue wonne your purpose in these smaller matters Thus you seme to folow a sleight
to S. Paul the Apostle as he vnderstoode his face by viewe of his picture Gregorie Nyssene S. Basiles brother writing the lyfe of Theodorus the martyr bestoweth much eloquence in the praise of the church where his holy relikes were kepte commending the shape of lyuing thinges wrought by the keruer the smoothenes of marble poolished like syluer by the mason the liuely resemblaunce of the martyr him selfe and of all his worthy actes expressed and excellently set forth to the eye in imagerie with the image of Christ by the paynter In which images he acknowlegeth the fightes of the martyr to be declared no lesse then if they were described and written in a booke Paulinus the bishop of Nola in his booke that he made in verses of the lyfe of Felix the martyr prayseth the church which the martyrs bodye was layed in In decimo Natali for the garnishing of it with painted images in bothe sydes of bothe kindes men and women the one kinde on the one syde and the other kinde on the other syde Where he speaketh expressely by name of the Images of scabbed Iob and blynde Tobye of fayer Iudith and great quene Hesther for so he nameth them Athanasius hath one notable place for hauing the Image of our Sauiour Christ which is not cōmon where he maketh Christ and the church to talke together as it were in a dialoge in sermone de sanctis patribus prophetis The greke may thus be translated Age inquit dic mihi cur oppugnaris Oppugnor inquit Ecclesia propter doctrinam Euangelij quam diligēter accuratè teneo propter verum firmum Pascha quod agito propter religiosam puram imaginem tuam quam mihi Apostoli reliquerunt vt haberem depictam arram humanitatis tuae in qua mysterium redemptionis operatus es Hic Christus Si propter hoc inquit te oppugnant ne grauiter feras nève animum despōdeds cum scias si quis Pascha neget aut imaginem me eum negaturum coram patre meo electis angelis Rursus verò qui compatitur mecum propter Pascha conglorificaturum an non audisti quid Moysi praeceperim Facies inquam mihi duos Cherubinos in tabernaculo testimonij scilicet ad praefigurandam meam imaginem etc. The English of this Latine or rather of the Greke is this Come on quoth Christ to the church tell me wherefore art thou thus inuaded and vexed declare me the matter Forsooth lord quoth the church I am inuaded and vexed for th'exacte obseruing of the gospell and for the keping of the feast of the true and firme Easter and for thy reuerent and pure Image which thy holy Apostles haue lefte to me by tradition to haue and kepe for a representation of thine incarnation Then quoth our lord if this be the matter for which thou art inuaded and set against be not dismayed be of good confort in hart and mynde being assured hereof that who so denyeth Easter or my * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cleane image I shall denye him before my heauenly father and his chosen Angels And he that suffereth persecution with me for keping of Easter the same shall also be glorified with me Hast not thou heard what I commaunded Moyses the lawegeuer to doo Make me sayd I two Cherubins in the tabernacle of the testimony to be a prefiguration or foretokening of my image etc. Of all the fathers none hath a playner testimonie bothe for the vse and also for the worshipping of Images then S. Basile whose auctoritie for learning wisedom and holynes of lyfe besyde antiquitie is so weighty in the iudgement of all men that all our newe maisters layed in balance against him shall be fownde lighter then any fether Citatur ab Adriano Papa in epistola Synodica ad Constātinū Irenen Touching this matter making a confession of his faith in an epistle inueghing against Iulian the renegate he sayeth thus Euen as we haue receyued our Christian and pure faith of God as it were by right of heretage right so I make my confession thereof to hym and therein I abyde I beleeue in one God father almighty God the father God the sonne God the holy ghoste One God in substance and these three in persones I adore and glorifie I confesse also the sonnes incarnation Then afterward sainct Mary who according to the fleshe brought hym foorth callyng her Deiparam I reuerence also the holy Apostles Prophetes and Martyrs which make supplication to god for me that by their mediation our most benigne god be mercifull vnto me and graunt me freely remission of my synnes Then this foloweth Quam ob causam historias imaginū illorum honoro palà m adoro hoc enim nobis traditum à sanctis Apostolis non est prohibendum sed in omnibus ecclesijs nostris eorum historias erigimus For the which cause I doo both honour the stories of their images and openly adore them For this being delyuered vnto vs of the holy Apostles by tradition is not to be forbidden And therefore we set vp in all our churches their stories Lo M. Iuell here you see a sufficient testimonie that Images were set vp in the churches long before the ende of your syx hundred yeres and that they were honoured and worshipped not onely of the simple christē people but of bishop Basile who for his excellent learning and wisedom was renoumed with the name of Great Now that there hath ben ynough alleaged for the Antiquitie orginall and approbation of Images Three causes vvhy images hauen ben vsed in the church it remayeth it be declared for what causes they haue ben vsed in the church We fynde that the vse of images hath ben brought into the church for three causes The first is the benefite of knowledge For the simple and vnlearned people which be vtterly ignorant of letters in pictures doo as it were reade and see nolesse then others doo in bookes the mysteries of christen Religion the actes and worthy dedes of Christ and of his sainctes What writing performeth to them that reade the same doth a picture to the simple beholding it Ad Serenū episcopū Massilien li. 9. epistol 9. sayeth S. Gregory For in the same the ignorant see what they ought to folowe in the same they reade which can no letters therefor Imagerie serueth specially the rude nations in stede of writing sayeth he To this S. Basile agreeth in his homilie vpon the forty martyrs Bothe the writers of stories sayeth he and also paineters do shewe and set forth noble dedes of armes and victories the one garnishing the matter with eloquence the other drawing it lyuely in tables and bothe haue styrred many to valiant courage For what thynges the vtterāce of the storie expresseth through hearing the same doth the stille picture set forth through imitatiō In the like respecte in olde tyme the worke of excellēt poetes was called a speaking picture