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A81491 A reply to a letter printed at Newcastle vnder the name of an answer, sent to the ecclesiasticall Assembly at London, about matters concerning the king, and the government of the church. With the copy of the said letter to the Assembly, in the name of John Deodate, D. D. Also, a certificate from one of the scribes of the Assembly at London. Walker, Henry, Ironmonger. 1646 (1646) Wing D1511; Thomason E367_7; ESTC R201267 12,349 16

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in their cause yet let them know that there is no Law that allowes their actions lawfull by that power to destroy the Land The King governes his people by power not onely Regall but politick If the Kings power in England was Royall onely then he might change the lawes of the Realm without consent of his subjects But here the Kings government being politick hee cannot wage warre against his Parliament And surely we may observe upon the notes pag. 9. there is a woe to these Prelates Papists and Malignants who have thus traduced the King and caused the warre And God will find them out with their Babylonish garments and wedges of gold and not only strip them but bring them to condigne punishment And for the other note of suffering rather then resisting with armes it is true we must let God work his work yet wee must doe our duty in serving him every one in his own place we must use the means And let me tell the Prelates which is no more but truth The Court of Parliament is so transcendent that it makes lawes and inlargeth lawes diminisheth abrogateth repealeth and reviveeth Lawes Statutes and Ordinances concerning matters Ecclesiasticall Capitall Criminall Common Civill and Martiall It is of that high Honour and Justice that none ought to Imagine any thing dishonourable that proceedeth from that high Court Mitt Cap 2. Sect 4. 7. 10. 14. Cap. 4. de default and Cap de Homicid Cap 1. Sect. 13. Cap 4 And those that resist that power resist the Ordinance of God which is a damnable Act. Rom. 13. 2. As for the adjurings and conjurings by the pretended holy grones Sacred Censers and hypocriticall extasies I cannot look upon them as tending really to a peace And we may daly see how big the Malignants hearts swell with poyson to foment if it were possible a new warre why do they pleade for humility and yet kick against our fasts What inclination of a good minde can they have towards the people of God whilst they burn in malice against the Parliament the Assembly and the City So that notwithstanding the Marginall notes pag. 11. It is cleare that the Malignant party seeke peace onely for themselves that they may be able to raise a new warre and though the forger of this letter would lay the guilt of all the blood that hath been shed in this warre upon the Parliament and their party yet it is most certaine that the Prelates Papists have been the very cause of all this blood-shed that hath been spilt in the 3. Kingdomes wherein so many thousands of Innocent people have been barbarously murdered for no other cause but that they were Protestants and could not professe the superstitions Commanded by the Prelates Authority And for the latter Annotations in pag. 11 we may easily see that they are still the same Incendiaryes as before not repenting unto this very day as is before exprest And for that excellent State of the Church observed by the notes on page 12. whence is it Their Councelling of the King to these courses so distructive both to himselfe and Kingdome Their Activity in cruell oppressions perpetrated by them upon the Innocent people and exorbitant illegall and tyrannicall invasions upon the just Lawes of the Kingdome and naturall Liberties of the subject Could these put the Church into an Excellent State who can endure such abominable untruths These alwayes were our blemishes But to conclude He that will approve this peece of Newcastle forgery must be either a papist or an atheist A Protestant he cannot be except to use his own words he be a Malignant and a right Malignant too even such a one who seekes to foment a new Warre from whom good Lord deliver us Amen An Answer sent to the Ecclesiastical Assembly at London by the reverend noble and learned man Iohn Deodate the famous Professour of Divinity and most vigilant Pastor of Geneva The Translators Preface to the simple seduced Reader READER MAy the Father of lights open thine eyes to see over this strangers shoulders and by this impartiall Perspective what thou whilst kept down thus low by thy new Masters and through thy Seducers false Mediums hast not hitherto been suffered to perceive it being now purposely hid from thine eyes Behold a meer stranger that notwithstanding his manifold Obligations and personall Ingagements to a contrary Discipline in the Church different forme of Government in the State yet over-ruled by the manifest Truth Honesty of the Kings Cause breakes through all those Restraints of his Liberty as far as he may to tell thee thus much plain English Truth Behold here Genevas veneration ful vindicatiō too of thine own Mother the Church of England as it stood under Episcopacie traduced here at home by her own Spurious brood for Superstitious Popish Antichristian what not And this Apology directed to the Assembly-men in answer to their Letter what ever it was Behold here again a cleer justification of the King vilified by his own for that for which strangers do admire him His Clemency his inclination to Peace his acts of grace c. Behold here the root of Gall that which hath brought forth all these Nationall mischiefes the popular tumults and conspiracies pointed at here is the only evident cause of the Kings Divorce from the Parliament See here by whom poor Ireland was deserted one thing also thou mayst here take notice of from these standers by That the Glergy in their own proper Sphere may be as fit and as honest and perhaps in some respects more able for the good speed of a Treaty then those that do slight them with utter Praeterition Last of all behold here the loyall and religious Subjects only Militia or his own proper Magazine to wit the known Lawes of the Land that and prayer submission are the only defensive weapons allowed here by this Master of Fence I say no more to thee save only that I do heartily pity thee and therefore I do stil pray for thee and for all thy fellow-bondmen that God will bring into the way of Truth all such as have erred and are deceived Amen Reverend godly and worthy Sirs our dear Brethren and Companions in the Work of the Lord IF proportionably to the griefe we have conceived at your Letters wherein you have expressed the most sad face of your affaires we had but as much ability either by our Consolations to asswage your sorrowes or by our counsels to ease your butthens or by any our cooperation to help your extremity we should think our selves very happy in so well corresponding with your honorable most loving compellation of us and right glad we should be thus to requite you with our best and effectuall good offices But alas as the scantnesse of our capacity in this kindso the Ignorāceof the more inward causes of so many miseries chiefly the perplex dangerous nature of matters now in agitation among you All these