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A92206 Christmass revived: or An ansvver to certain objections made against the observation of a day in memory of our Saviour Christ his birth. By John Reading. M.A. And one of the prebends of Christs-Church in Canterbury. Reading, John, 1588-1667. 1660 (1660) Wing R445; Thomason E1053_9; ESTC R207981 15,390 23

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that in things of that nature you must acknowledge that the Church of Christ hath power to determin if at least you will allow her any Sect. 7. DId the Apostles or disciples ever observe it We answer doth it appear that they did not observe it further we say that all that which our Lord Jesus did is not recorded in Scripture John 20. 30. John 21. 25. And can we reasonably think that all things which the Apostles or disciples did are written in holy Scripture we read not that all the Apostles were baptized where when and by whom will you therefore conclude that they were not at all baptized In things simply necessary to Salvation the general precept was sufficient to shew it so and for things subordinate to decency unity order it was left to the Church to determin conveniently in respect of times places and persons hence appeareth a sufficient answer to your next Quaere Sect. 8. VVOuld they have omitted it if it had been a duty To dispute ex non concessis either presupposeth much igrance in the Respondent or bewrayeth it in the Opponent Who ever granted you that the Apostles c. omitted it or when did you or ever shall be able to prove that they did what vain trilling use you in such a frequent begging of the question Sect 9. VVAs it observed in the Primitive Church for fifty yeers after the Apostles were dead search the Scriptures and Ecclesiastiall history We answer again that you found us in possession of many hundred years prescription and therefore it rests on your parts to shew us that it was not observed in and from the Apostles times except untill now of late days which when you attempt to do or to shew that any consent of the uniuersall Church ever annulled the observation thereof we shall begin with you upon a new score If your argument lie thus It is not found in Scripture nor in Ecclesiastical history c. Therefore in the Apostles times and Fifty years after the Apostles were dead it was not observed The consequence is l●me for A non Scripto ad non factum non valet argumentum how absurd is it to say It is not found written therefore it was not done all is not written which Christ did as hath been said before if therefore you finde any thing to the contrary in your search of the Scriptures c. proclaime your {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} in open streets and sacrifice to your invention We finde that good and antient authors spake of the observation of that day as of a thing long before their times accustomed and in use See Ammianus Marcellinus l. 21. who lived about Three hundred and sixty years after Christ Gregorie Nazianz Orat. 32. who lived about the same age Augustin and many others And we further say that the reason why little or no mention of this days observation not onely for Fifty but many more years can be found in the antient Ecclesiastical writers may be and most probably is because so long none opposed that rite and custome of the Church So was it in case of paedobaptisme unto Cyprian time and the Conncils of Carthage and the Milevetan An. 416. 417. in which Pelagius and Caelestius were condemned because no opposition did before that for some hundred years give the Orthodox Fathers occasi●n to dispute or write in defence of it indeed to what end should any write in defence of that which none opposed But when some pretenders to Christian religion opposed the truth or raised schismes dangerous to the unity of the Church or the wholsome Rites and customes of the same then the Orthodox wrote and many of their works are yet extant and so are divers of their Sermons and godly Or●tions delivered to the people on the same day which sufficiently testify the custom of the Church of Christ concerning the observation of the day in memory of our Saviours nativity Lastly it is well known that there were some obscure ages wh erein few or none writ or none so eminent and known as that there writings were transmitted to posteritie Sect. 10. HOw came it to be Christs day If you beleive that which the Angel told the shepherds Luke 2. 10 11. that Christ was on that day borne this quere is superfluous marke the words The Angel said unto th●m fear not for b● hold I bring you good tidings of great joy which shall be to all p●ople for unto you is born this day in the City o● David a Saviour which is Christ the Lord You pos●ibly will say what is that to us what cause of joy or commemoration have we Certainly the same that all the people of God then had if Christ were born your Savior for in that he saith which shall be to all people he includeth us Gentiles as well as the Jews for he is not only the Saviour of the Jews but of the b●l●iving Gentiles also Rom 3. 29 neither of those only who lived that day but of all ages you may say how know we whether he were born on that day which we observe we answer how know you the contrary One day of the year he was born you that so obstinately deny the day which we observe to be it assigne us one other which you will affirme was the day of his nativity except you think he was not born in any time You will say again ●ut why should we yearly observe a day we say first for the same reason which Moses gave Israel for the yearly observation of the Passover When your Children shall say unto you what mean you by this service you shall say As this day by the computation of the Church of England was our Saviour Christ born whom God sent into the world to deliver us not from a temporall bondage but from the e●ernall misery of hell and damnation to which sin had inslaved us Again Secondly you may as rationally say Why should we at all or any time be thankful to God for this his greatest mercy conferred on the elect considering the end of his incarnation his suffering and mans redemption which Paul reciteth under the motion of a faithfull saying and worthy of all acceptation 1. Tim. 1. 15. and our Saviour recounteth as a principal specimen of Gods love to mankind John 3 16. indeed it was the cheif non enim prodesset nasci nifi redimi profuisset Ambros. And is it not worth thanks in your sence Sect. 11. ●ell us the originall of this duty They who will not learne of Christ the onely Mediatour between God and man through whom and by whose merits onely they can be heard to say thy will be done in earth as it is heaven c. may possibly doubt concerning the originall of this duty not knowing or not beleiving the practice of an holy Angel or a multitude of the heavenly hoste praysing God on the day of Christ's nativity Luke 2. 10. 13. to be a