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B03680 A detection of the shiprwrights new tricks in combination with Captain Ely, against lead-sheathing. Practis'd upon the trumbal-gally in Mr. Wells's dock, Aug. 31. MDCXCIX. Also an account of the lead sheathing upon the Weedaw. Together with a new publication of the charge thereof, at 12 d. a foot. T. H. (Thomas Hale) 1699 (1699) Wing H265A; ESTC R218190 5,502 2

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no pretence thus to put the unnecessary charge of a new sheathing u●on them Tho' Mr. Hale has sufficiently cleared this matter about the Seams as well as other things in his An●elope's Evidence Printed in May 1698. Several Monthes before she was new Sheath'd which some of them should ●●ve Answer'd and put his name to it if they had had any thing to say against the Truth thereof while the Ships sid●● with her seams and sheathing lay in the Dock to be seen by every body which would easily determine the point and certainly they had done it under those provocations if they had had any thing material to say against it But they could never answer that nor any other of the Papers he has been obliged to Print to vindicate the exce●lency of his Lead-sheathing against their many false suggestions and idle stories they had raised about it But the Truth of that Paper appears by the Testimony of six Experienc'd Masters and Commanders of good credit who in presence of the Navy-Board viewed the Antelope's Lead-sheathing and the Plank and Seams where it was stript and have justified it under their hands among other things That not to mention the known damage of the great Iro●●-Nails of the other they found the Lead-sheathing did preserve the Plank better more cool smooth and sound and the Oakam longer in the Seams than a Wood-sheathing could do besides its certain security against the Worm and great benefit in Sayling c. The Weedaw Friggot having made her Voyage in her Lead-sheathing to Guinea and the West-Indies was brought into Mr. Fowl●● 's Dock at Lime-house the 19th Instant to be fitted out for the same Voyage again where any one may find her sheathing and seams under it very good and sound in respect of the sheathing it self and no cause for stripping save only in those places where the Shipwright had mixt Elm Plank with the Oaks which being doted and rotten was shifted about a tenth part which was with little charges new sheath'd with Lead But where upon searching the Plank was sound they found the Seams sound also and no need of stripping the whole sheathing as the Trumball-Galley was to new caulk her Seams pretending the Lead-sheathing had rotted the Oakam under it as abovementioned The Foe had visited her sheathing two nights before she came into the Dock but finding themselves discover'd by the Watch who was set for that purpose after they had torn off about two Foot they got off to the shoar being pursu'd they left their Boat and ran away Obj. It is newly objected That tho' what is said of the preference of Lead-sheathing to that of Wood may be true yet th● thing can never do for ●f the Shipwrights find they cannot keep it out they will agree to leave some places so defectively Caulk'd about the Seams or Trunnel-holes c. not discovera●le by the eye which shall soon become very Leaky and then lay the fault upon the Lead-sheathing Thus the Owners being over perswaded or always i● fear of ill Caulking will be unwilling to venture it and so the Lead-sheathing will fall and if Mr. Hale wil● carry it on he must get a Dock of his own This ill Caulking may by the Owners care and little charge be prevented by the means abovementioned Ans 1. Or they may reserve the Caulkers which is not the Carpenters work to themselves and imploy those the● can trust to see it well done unless the Shipwright will lay this Trick aside and undertake for the goodness of h●● Seams that they shall last at least as long under a Lead as under a Wood-sheathing which it is plain from wh●● is proved by Reason and Experience as above preserves them better But if they will not certainly if Owners would but consult their interest also which is very consid●rable 2. in this matter they would not suffer their own Reason and Profit to be thus invaded by the Tricks a●● Interest of the Shipwrights to their great charge and damage to their Ships and Sayling but agree amongst the●selves to oblige the Shipwrights who get their living by them and vast profit otherwise by new Building a●● necessary Reparation of their Ships to permit them quietly to preserve their Hulls by careful Caulking and Le●●-sheathing or any ways else they think fit As for Mr. Hales taking a Dock purposely for that Work there is no need nor reason for that for if 〈…〉 3. Lead-sheathing be countenanced it is not to be supposed one or two Docks would be sufficient to dispatch all 〈…〉 will sheath with Lead many of which may happen at the same time He is indeed off'red by a Shipwright to 〈…〉 a Hulk in a convenient place to Careene Ships of any burthen for his Lead-sheathing which as he is infor 〈…〉 may be better done and Caulk'd also upon the Careene than in a Dock But this Shipwright is afraid to 〈…〉 till he can receive some assurance that the Lead-sheathing will go on that he may not expose himself to 〈…〉 and the ill will of his Fraternity for nothing Now for the further encouragement of those that shall make use of this Lead-Sheathing hereafter altho' 〈…〉 Antelope ' s Evidence abovementioned and other Printed Papers it s much greater cheapness as well 〈…〉 ness is fully proved at the rate of 14d a foot in respect of an East-India Wood-Sheathing at 〈…〉 Penny and even of an ordinary Streights Sheathing of 7d a foot by the graving saved duration 〈…〉 of the Lead wh●n stript Mr. Hale hereby proposes to do it for 12d a foot with the same thickness of 〈…〉 3 l. to the foot and the same Nailing at 1½ inch distance close driven in the Seams with the Nails h 〈…〉 hitherto used approved by long experience everywise proper for the work allowing only for extraordinary 〈…〉 ness of the bottom of the Keel and Cut-water as that shall be required to be done and for abundant 〈…〉 tion against Beats and Lyters he will Sheath over and between the Wales with Lead a third part 〈…〉 and double nailing driving one between each Provided always that there be no Wood-sheathi 〈…〉 ●bove and that the Carpenter or Caulker may have no pretence of business to do on the side he is at work 〈◊〉 hath hitherto by their Spawles Stages c. caused him great trouble and damage but that the Ships 〈…〉 be prepar'd by paying and parcelling the Iron-Work Spun-Yarn in the Seams or otherwise as they shall 〈…〉 fit ready to bring the Lead-sheathing on desiring only that he may have the use of the boards an 〈…〉 terials in the Yard to make his Table for his Plumbers to open and fit his Lead and for Stages 〈…〉 nient to bring it on and a room as near the Ship as may be to lock up his goods till his work be done Or to enforce this Improvement for publick good as well as benefit to those that use it altho' his Patent b 〈…〉 in being yet if any one thinks he can perform the work of Sheathing cheaper and as well with Nails of h 〈…〉 providing he is willing to sell them his Lead at the rates published which others pay for Houses and 〈…〉 purposes viz. 16 s. a Hundred for the thicker sorts of 6 l. to the foot and upwards and for the th 〈…〉 sorts 12 d. a hundred more for each pound in a foot less Or if they please to buy their Lead themse 〈…〉 and send it in to his Mill at Deptford he will Cast and Mill it for them and return them Weight 〈…〉 Weight in Mill'd Lead at 5 s. a hundred for the thicker sorts and 12 d. a hundred for each poun 〈…〉 foot thinner as aforesoid Mr. Hale lives at the Mill'd-Lead sign in Orange-street by Red-Lyon-Square who undert 〈…〉 all Lead Work about Churches Houses c. as well as Sheathing having Plumbers and 〈…〉 Workmen to perform the same and sells his Solder for 6 d. a pound LONDON Printed Septemb. 27. 1699.
A detection Of the Shipwrights new Tricks in Combination wi●● Captain Ely against LEAD-SHEATHING Practis'd upon the Trumbal-Gally in Mr. Wells ' s Dock Aug. 31. MDC XCIX ●lso an Account of the Lead-sheathing upon the WEEDAW Together with a new Publication of the charge thereof At 12d a foot ONe would think the Shipwrigh● might be content with their profitable Trade of Building and necessary Reparation of Ships wh●ch wi● continually bring wealth and work enough to them let their Owners preserve them as well ●s they can and Sheath with Lead that will But 't is not the bare profit perhaps of Wood ●heathing that makes them so obstinate against Evident Truth tho' that be considerable also They who ●ive not by the Preservation but by the Damage and Decays of Plank and Shipping which the Worm and ●●●d-sheathing do various ways promote cannot be recon●●d to Lead-sheathng † Vide the Papers formerly published particularly the Certifica●e of the 6 Commanders that viewed the Antelope's Lead-sheathing in presence of the Navy-Board aftermentioned which 'tis fairly prov'd by Reason and Experience does much preserve them And there●● the Shipwrights in combination with one Captain ●ly formerly a Shipwright also and now the English East 〈…〉 Companies Husband bend all their force and false suggestions as the Old o●es are baffled with new tricks 〈…〉 ppose it as appear'd more particularly of late upon the Trumbal Galley which having made one East-India 〈…〉 age in her Lead-sheathing and being taken into the said Company 's service was brought into the Dock to fit and 〈…〉 very next day Mr. Hale appointed by Mr. Whaley her Owner to meet him about 5 in the afternoon at the Ships side 〈…〉 ●iew her Sh●athing to mend what might be ●ami●s when they were strangely surpriz'd to find the Lead-sheathing 〈…〉 lly stript off But to satisfie the Owner they told him as he did Mr. Hale the next morning that Captain 〈…〉 had brought an Order from the Company that she must be sheathed with Wood and dispatch'd forthwith which 〈…〉 same day about noon meeting with some of them who signed the Order for fitting her out he found to be 〈…〉 tively false they never having Order●d her Lead-sheathing to be stript off or if there were cause for it to 〈…〉 ose Wood-sheathing upon him as they declared to him in Mr. Hale's presence at which he seemed to be very 〈…〉 ch concerned that he should be put to such unnecessary charge But if his Captain who was not present at this ●●ripping and who also had formerly been a Shipwright was 〈…〉 senting or co●●iving at it it is supposed his Ow●●● having left all things to his ordering as he says he was 〈…〉 ly able to pacifie him when he found how much 〈◊〉 had saved him of the usual charge of the Wood sheathing 〈…〉 ch doubtless the Shipwrights amongst them had agreed to allow be it what it will rather than this Lead-sheath 〈…〉 should be continued or a new one put on as Mr. 〈◊〉 upon his discourse afterward with Mr. Whaley can give very 〈…〉 d reasons to believe But as for the hasty stripping this nimble operation that could not stay one day for a fair 〈…〉 sufficiently declares to all indifferent persons the concern they lay under least its excellency should appear for 〈…〉 there been any thing material to complain of they would certainly have exposed it to be seen by every body ●he Sheathing being stript there appeared one place upon the Garble-strake on the Starboard side aba●● where 〈…〉 Worm had eaten which Captain Ely having e●pied mightily bounced of his discovery till the Owner said he 〈…〉 do Mr. Hale that right to tell him that the Lead ha● by an accident been rubb'd of in that place at her first 〈…〉 out of the Dock But the thing they in●●●●ed on that requir'd her stripping was that the seams wanted 〈…〉 aulking some said they were not well done at first tho' to those that went down with Mr. Hale they seemed all 〈…〉 ●ell But why new Ca●lking here and not under the Wood-sheathing above which was done at the same 〈…〉 and as they told the Owner need not be stript these 10 years 't was readily answered the Lead-sheathing 〈…〉 decay'd the Oakam under it but be that as it will stripping was resolv'd on by Captain Ely right or wrong 〈…〉 told her Owner before she was put into the Dock that the Lead-sheathing must come off at which he being 〈…〉 what moved said the Ship was his and he would see very good cause for it first but it seems it was agreed 〈…〉 ngst them that for that reason he should not see 't at all And let Captain Ely deny or say what he will to 〈…〉 use himself to his Masters for abusing their Authority the great Zeal and Concernment he is transported with 〈…〉 senseless 〈◊〉 against the Lead-sheathing relating to this Ship as well as those already gone in the Compa 〈…〉 Service who would have sheathed with Lead if they had been permitted does so much discover his great Ignorance 〈…〉 Prejudice that no body believes him nor minds what he says but such as are obliged to comply with his Power 〈…〉 Office The ●ame Trick was formerly play'd for the better justification of stripping the Antelope's first Lead-sheathing all 〈…〉 a sudd●in to Cau●k her Seams without acquainting her Commander Captain Hammond he having said too ma 〈…〉 Truths in favour of it but he affirming to her Owner Mr. Sh●pheard that the Seams were very good and sound 〈…〉 appointed a ti●● to hear them all together when Mr. Hale producing some of the Spun Yarn that lay in her Seams full 〈…〉 Pi●ch fr●sh and strong as at first the Shipwright was forced to own it to Mr. Shepheard and said that the 〈…〉 indeed were 〈◊〉 and good next the Lead but that they were rotted from within Board and not well 〈…〉 at first which 〈◊〉 new Caulking and for that reason as also to new drive her Iron-spikes which had been 〈◊〉 from her 〈◊〉 building He found it necessary to strip her sheathing not because 't was Lead for had it been a 〈…〉 never ●o good he said it must come off But if Caulking after one Voyage be made an excuse for 〈…〉 riping Why do●● they Caulk better at first The true reason must be because a Lead-sheathing is to be brought 〈…〉 And if these Tricks and Pretences will serve to be sure a Lead-sheathing tho' 't would last as long as the Ship 〈…〉 be stript every Voyage If Owners will still believe the Shipwright and suffer themselves to be thus imposed upon Who can help it But if their Commander Master or some body else that understands it they can trust will be constantly by but for 2 or 3 days and see the searching and caulking of every Seam and sound Oakam driven themselves certainly their trouble or expence would be very well recompenced for ●his objection being once remov'd they could have