Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	bring_v	effect_n	good_a	1,532	5	3.6660	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44006	Of libertie and necessitie a treatise, wherein all controversie concerning predestination, election, free-will, grace, merits, reprobation, &c. is fully decided and cleared, in answer to a treatise written by the Bishop of London-derry, on the same subject / by Thomas Hobs.	Hobbes, Thomas, 1588-1679.	1654 (1654)	Wing H2252; ESTC R20187	27,647	98

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the_o liberty_n to_o go_v because_o the_o impediment_n be_v not_o in_o he_o but_o in_o his_o band_n whereas_o we_o say_v not_o so_o of_o he_o that_o be_v sick_a or_o lame_a because_o the_o impediment_n be_v in_o himself_o six_o i_o conceive_v that_o nothing_o take_v beginning_n from_o itself_o but_o from_o the_o action_n of_o some_o other_o immediate_a agent_n without_o itself_o and_o that_o therefore_o when_o first_o a_o man_n have_v a_o appetite_n or_o will_n to_o something_o to_o which_o immediate_o before_o he_o have_v no_o appetite_n nor_o will_n the_o cause_n of_o his_o will_n be_v not_o the_o will_n itself_o but_o something_o else_o not_o in_o his_o own_o dispose_n so_o that_o whereas_o it_o be_v out_o of_o controversy_n that_o of_o voluntary_a action_n the_o will_n be_v the_o necessary_a cause_n and_o by_o this_o which_o be_v say_v the_o will_n be_v also_o cause_v by_o other_o thing_n whereof_o it_o dispose_v not_o it_o follow_v that_o voluntary_a action_n have_v all_o of_o 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and_o therefore_o also_o voluntary_a action_n be_v necessitate_v last_o shall_v that_o ordinary_a definition_n of_o a_o free_a agent_n namely_o that_o a_o free_a agent_n be_v that_o which_o when_o all_o thing_n be_v present_a which_o be_v needful_a to_o produce_v the_o effect_n can_v nevertheless_o not_o produce_v it_o imply_v a_o contradiction_n and_o be_v nonsense_n be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v the_o cause_n may_v be_v sufficient_a that_o be_v to_o say_v necessary_a and_o yet_o the_o effect_n shall_v not_o follow_v my_o reason_n for_o the_o first_o five_o point_n wherein_o it_o be_v explicate_v 1._o what_o spontanity_n be_v 2._o what_o deliberation_n be_v 3._o what_o will_v propension_n and_o appetite_n be_v 4._o what_o a_o free_a agent_n be_v 5._o what_o liberty_n be_v there_o can_v no_o other_o proof_n be_v offer_v but_o every_o man_n own_o experience_n by_o reflection_n on_o himself_o and_o remember_v what_o he_o use_v in_o his_o mind_n that_o be_v what_o he_o himself_o mean_v when_o he_o say_v a_o action_n be_v spontaneous_a a_o man_n deliberate_v such_o be_v his_o will_n that_o agent_n or_o that_o action_n be_v free_a now_o he_o that_o reflect_v so_o on_o himself_o can_v but_o be_v satisfy_v that_o deliberation_n be_v the_o consideration_n of_o the_o good_a and_o evil_a sequel_n of_o a_o action_n to_o come_v that_o by_o spontanity_n be_v mean_v inconsiderate_a action_n or_o else_o nothing_o be_v mean_v by_o it_o that_o will_n be_v the_o last_o act_n of_o our_o deliberation_n that_o a_o free_a agent_n be_v he_o that_o can_v do_v if_o he_o will_v and_o forbear_v if_o he_o will_v and_o that_o liberty_n be_v the_o absence_n of_o external_a impediment_n but_o to_o those_o that_o out_o of_o custom_n speak_v not_o what_o they_o conceive_v but_o what_o they_o hear_v and_o be_v not_o able_a or_o will_v not_o take_v the_o pain_n to_o consider_v what_o they_o think_v when_o they_o hear_v such_o word_n no_o argument_n can_v be_v sufficient_a because_o experience_n and_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v not_o verify_v by_o other_o man_n argument_n but_o by_o every_o man_n own_o sense_n and_o memory_n for_o example_n how_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o to_o love_v a_o thing_n and_o to_o think_v it_o good_a be_v all_o one_o to_o a_o man_n that_o do_v not_o mark_v his_o own_o meaning_n by_o those_o word_n or_o how_o can_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o eternity_n be_v not_o nunc_fw-la stans_fw-la to_o a_o man_n that_o say_v those_o word_n by_o custom_n and_o never_o consider_v how_o he_o can_v conceive_v the_o thing_n in_o his_o mind_n also_o the_o six_o point_n that_o a_o man_n can_v imagine_v any_o thing_n to_o begin_v without_o a_o cause_n can_v no_o other_o way_n be_v make_v know_v but_o by_o try_v how_o he_o can_v imagine_v it_o but_o if_o he_o try_v he_o shall_v find_v as_o much_o reason_n if_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n of_o the_o thing_n to_o conceive_v it_o shall_v begin_v at_o one_o time_n as_o another_o that_o he_o have_v equal_a reason_n to_o think_v 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posture_n of_o the_o part_n of_o the_o table_n and_o the_o like_a in_o sum_n there_o be_v nothing_o want_v which_o be_v necessary_o requisite_a to_o the_o produce_n of_o that_o particular_a cast_n and_o consequent_o the_o cast_n be_v necessary_o throw_v for_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v throw_v there_o have_v want_v somewhat_o requisite_a to_o the_o throw_n of_o it_o and_o so_o the_o cause_n have_v not_o be_v sufficient_a in_o the_o like_a manner_n it_o may_v be_v prove_v that_o every_o other_o ac●ident_n how_o contingent_a soever_o it_o seem_v or_o how_o voluntary_a soever_o it_o be_v be_v produce_v necessary_o which_o be_v that_o that_o my_o l._n bishop_n dispute_v against_o the_o same_o may_v be_v prove_v also_o in_o this_o manner_n let_v the_o case_n be_v put_v for_o example_n of_o the_o weather_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o to_o morrow_n it_o shall_v rain_v or_o not_o rain_n if_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a it_o shall_v rain_v it_o be_v necessary_a it_o shall_v not_o 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they_o be_v true_a titirice_n but_o neither_o of_o they_o tu_fw-la patulice_fw-la the_o last_o thing_n in_o which_o also_o consist_v the_o whole_a controversy_n namely_o that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o agent_n which_o when_o all_o thing_n requisite_a to_o action_n be_v present_a can_v nevertheless_o forbear_v to_o produce_v it_o or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o freedom_n from_o necessity_n be_v easy_o infer_v from_o that_o which_o have_v be_v before_o allege_v for_o if_o it_o be_v a_o agent_n it_o can_v work_v and_o if_o it_o work_v there_o be_v nothing_o want_v of_o what_o be_v requisite_a to_o produce_v the_o action_n and_o consequent_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o action_n be_v sufficient_a and_o if_o sufficient_a then_o also_o necessary_a as_o have_v be_v prove_v before_o and_o thus_o you_o see_v how_o the_o inconvenience_n which_o his_o lordship_n object_v must_v follow_v upon_o the_o hold_n of_o necessity_n be_v avoid_v and_o the_o necessity_n itself_o demonstrative_o prove_v to_o which_o i_o can_v add_v if_o i_o think_v it_o good_a logic_n the_o inconvenience_n of_o deny_v necessity_n as_o that_o it_o destroy_v both_o the_o decree_n and_o the_o prescience_n of_o god_n almighty_a for_o whatsoever_o god_n have_v purpose_v to_o bring_v to_o pass_v by_o man_n as_o a_o instrument_n or_o foresee_v shall_v come_v to_o pass_v a_o man_n if_o he_o have_v liberty_n such_o as_o his_o lordship_n affirm_v from_o necessitation_n may_v frustrate_v and_o make_v not_o to_o come_v to_o pass_v and_o god_n shall_v either_o not_o foreknow_v it_o and_o not_o decree_v it_o or_o he_o shall_v foreknow_v such_o thing_n shall_v be_v as_o shall_v never_o be_v and_o decree_n that_o which_o shall_v never_o come_v to_o pass_v this_o be_v all_o have_v come_v into_o my_o mind_n touch_v this_o question_n since_o i_o last_o consider_v it_o and_o i_o humble_o beseech_v your_o lordship_n to_o communicate_v it_o only_o to_o my_o lord_n bishop_n and_o so_o pray_v god_n to_o prosper_v your_o lordship_n in_o all_o your_o design_n i_o take_v leave_v and_o be_o my_o most_o noble_a and_o most_o oblige_a lord_n your_o most_o humble_a servant_n thomas_n hobbs_n roven_n aug._n 20._o 〈◊〉_d finis_fw-la

say_v what_o necessary_a cause_n soever_o precede_v a_o action_n yet_o if_o the_o action_n be_v forbid_v he_o that_o do_v it_o willing_o may_v just_o be_v punish_v for_o instance_n suppose_v the_o law_n on_o pain_n of_o death_n prohibit_v steal_v and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o man_n who_o by_o the_o strength_n of_o temptation_n be_v necessitate_v to_o steal_v and_o be_v thereupon_o put_v to_o death_n do_v not_o this_o punishment_n deter_v other_o from_o theft_n be_v it_o not_o a_o cause_n that_o other_o steal_v not_o do_v it_o not_o frame_v and_o make_v their_o will_n to_o justice_n to_o make_v the_o law_n be_v therefore_o to_o make_v a_o cause_n of_o justice_n and_o to_o necessitate_v justice_n and_o consequent_o it_o be_v no_o injustice_n to_o make_v such_o a_o law_n the_o intention_n of_o the_o law_n be_v not_o to_o grieve_v the_o delinquent_n for_o that_o which_o be_v past_a and_o not_o to_o be_v undo_v but_o to_o make_v he_o and_o other_o just_a that_o else_o will_v not_o be_v so_o 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himself_o confess_v that_o their_o action_n as_o be_v only_o spontaneous_a and_o not_o free_a be_v all_o necessitate_v and_o determine_v to_o that_o one_o thing_n they_o shall_v do_v for_o man_n when_o we_o make_v society_n or_o commonwealth_n we_o lay_v not_o down_o our_o right_n to_o kill_v except_v in_o certain_a case_n as_o murder_v theft_n or_o other_o offensive_a action_n so_o that_o the_o right_a which_o the_o commonwealth_n have_v to_o put_v a_o man_n to_o death_n for_o crime_n be_v not_o create_v by_o the_o law_n but_o remain_v from_o the_o first_o right_n of_o nature_n which_o every_o man_n have_v to_o preserve_v himself_o for_o that_o the_o law_n do_v not_o take_v the_o right_a away_o in_o the_o case_n of_o criminal_n who_o be_v by_o the_o law_n except_v man_n be_v not_o therefore_o put_v to_o death_n or_o punish_v for_o that_o their_o theft_n proceed_v from_o election_n but_o because_o it_o be_v noxious_a and_o contrary_a to_o man_n preservation_n and_o the_o punishment_n conduce_v to_o the_o preservation_n of_o the_o rest_n in_o as_o much_o as_o to_o punish_v those_o that_o do_v voluntary_a hurt_n and_o none_o else_o frame_v and_o make_v man_n will_n such_o as_o man_n will_v have_v they_o and_o thus_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o from_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o voluntary_a action_n can_v be_v infer_v the_o injustice_n of_o the_o law_n that_o forbid_v it_o or_o the_o magistrate_n that_o punish_v it_o second_o i_o deny_v that_o it_o make_v consultation_n to_o be_v in_o vain_a it_o be_v the_o consultation_n that_o cause_v a_o man_n and_o necessitate_v he_o to_o choose_v to_o do_v one_o thing_n rather_o than_o another_o so_o that_o unless_o a_o man_n say_v that_o that_o cause_n be_v in_o vain_a which_o necessitate_v the_o effect_n he_o can_v infer_v the_o superfluousness_n of_o consultation_n out_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o election_n proceed_v from_o it_o but_o it_o seem_v his_o lordship_n reason_n thus_o if_o i_o must_v do_v this_o rather_o than_o that_o i_o shall_v do_v this_o rather_o than_o that_o though_o i_o consult_v not_o at_o all_o which_o be_v a_o false_a proposition_n and_o a_o false_a consequence_n and_o no_o better_o than_o this_o if_o i_o shall_v live_v till_o to_o morrow_n i_o shall_v live_v till_o to_o morrow_n though_o i_o run_v myself_o through_o with_o a_o sword_n to_o day_n if_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n that_o a_o action_n shall_v be_v do_v or_o that_o any_o effect_n shall_v be_v bring_v to_o pass_v it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o necessary_o requisite_a as_o a_o mean_n to_o bring_v it_o to_o pass_v and_o therefore_o when_o it_o be_v determine_v that_o one_o thing_n shall_v be_v choose_v before_o another_o it_o be_v determine_v also_o for_o what_o cause_n it_o shall_v so_o be_v choose_v which_o cause_n for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v deliberation_n or_o consultation_n and_o therefore_o consultation_n be_v not_o in_o vain_a and_o indeed_o the_o less_o in_o vain_a by_o how_o 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