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13._o abraham_n circumcise_v his_o servant_n as_o well_o as_o his_o son_n gen._n 17._o 13._o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n or_o of_o some_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o it_o than_o it_o suffice_v the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v undertake_v to_o be_v as_o a_o parent_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a because_o as_o the_o covenant_n run_v so_o run_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o the_o covenant_n be_v make_v with_o the_o father_n in_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o father_n not_o with_o any_o relation_n to_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o child_n as_o appeareth_z by_o that_o i_o will_v be_v thy_o 7._o gen._n 17._o 7._o god_n and_o the_o god_n of_o thy_o seed_n therefore_o it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o father_n or_o he_o that_o will_v be_v in_o stead_n of_o the_o father_n to_o make_v confession_n of_o his_o faith_n because_o as_o the_o scripture_n show_v it_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o bring_v the_o child_n within_o the_o compass_n 14_o 1._o cor._n 7._o 14_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n ob._n the_o interrogatory_n be_v most_o ancient_a answ_n antiquity_n without_o verity_n be_v but_o vetustas_fw-la erroris_fw-la oldness_n of_o error_n as_o cyprian_n 3._o cypri_n ad_fw-la pomp._n &_o lib._n 2._o ep_n 3._o speak_v and_o again_o non_fw-la debemus_fw-la attendere_fw-la quid_fw-la aliquis_fw-la ante_fw-la nos_fw-la faciendum_fw-la putaverit_fw-la sed_fw-la quid_fw-la qui_fw-la ante_fw-la omnes_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la prio_fw-la fecerit_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la hominis_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la sequi_fw-la oportet_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la veritatem_fw-la we_o be_v not_o to_o regard_v what_o any_o one_o have_v think_v good_a to_o do_v before_o we_o but_o what_o christ_n do_v first_o before_o all_o neither_o shall_v we_o follow_v the_o custom_n of_o man_n but_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n oil_n in_o baptism_n be_v ancient_a as_o appear_v by_o tertullian_n and_o cyprian_n so_o be_v exufflation_n use_v of_o the_o church_n as_o augustine_n speak_v joh._n tert._n de_fw-fr resus_fw-la carn_n cyp._n lib._n 1._o epist_n 22._o ang._n lib_n 2._o the_o imp_n &_o corrup_n c._n 18._o ang._n lib_n 1_o de_fw-la pecat_fw-la &_o remis_fw-la c._n 24._o mald._n in_o joh._n toto_fw-la orbe_fw-la diffusa_fw-la in_fw-la qua_fw-la ubique_fw-la omnes_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la infantuli_fw-la exufflantur_fw-la and_o yet_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o good_a cause_n have_v refuse_v both_o in_o augustine_n time_n and_o long_o before_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v give_v to_o infant_n maldonatus_n the_o jesuite_n confess_v it_o be_v so_o and_o that_o with_o opinion_n of_o necessity_n that_o child_n perish_v that_o die_v without_o it_o and_o yet_o the_o antiquity_n of_o this_o can_v make_v it_o good_a as_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o paul_n ergo_fw-la every_o thing_n that_o be_v ancient_a be_v not_o 28._o 1._o cor._n 11._o 28._o therefore_o by_o and_o by_o currant_n 2._o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o use_n of_o interrogatory_n be_v most_o ancient_a we_o read_v in_o scripture_n of_o interrogatory_n minister_v to_o 4._o act._n 8._o 37._o tert._n de_fw-fr spec_fw-la c._n 4._o such_o as_o be_v of_o year_n and_o discretion_n as_o to_o the_o eunuch_n si_fw-mi credis_fw-la etc._n etc._n credo_fw-la if_o thou_o believe_v etc._n etc._n i_o believe_v and_o tertul._n say_v aquam_fw-la ingressi_fw-la christianam_fw-la fidem_fw-la in_o suae_fw-la legis_fw-la verba_fw-la profitemur_fw-la renunciasse_n nos_fw-la diabolo_fw-la ore_fw-la nostro_fw-la contestamur_fw-la be_v to_o be_v baptize_v we_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n we_o solemn_o profess_v with_o our_o mouth_n that_o we_o have_v renounce_v the_o devil_n but_o of_o any_o interrogatory_n that_o be_v minister_v to_o infant_n we_o read_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o book_n of_o god_n 3_o though_o the_o father_n mention_n this_o use_n yet_o that_o many_o dislike_v it_o even_o in_o their_o time_n appear_v by_o tertullian_n himself_o bape_n lib._n the_o bape_n who_o wish_v that_o infant_n may_v be_v keep_v till_o they_o can_v make_v their_o own_o answer_n lest_o we_o promise_v that_o for_o they_o which_o they_o will_v never_o perform_v and_o boniface_n the_o bb._n move_v the_o doubt_n to_o aug._n &_o argue_v against_o it_o when_o the_o 23._o aug._n epist_n 23._o witness_n say_v the_o infant_n believe_v dicunt_fw-la eos_fw-la facere_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o say_v they_o do_v that_o which_o that_o age_n be_v not_o able_a to_o think_v 2._o if_o they_o do_v believe_v yet_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o we_o 3._o if_o a_o man_n shall_v by_o and_o by_o ask_v the_o witness_n of_o the_o child_n whether_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o thief_n or_o no_o they_o will_v answer_v they_o can_v tell_v and_o if_o they_o can_v tell_v this_o how_o can_v they_o tell_v that_o it_o will_v believe_v augustine_n a_o man_n so_o learned_a that_o he_o can_v have_v help_v the_o cause_n if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o help_n in_o it_o resolve_v the_o matter_n very_o weak_o habet_fw-la fidem_fw-la i_o sacramentum_fw-la fidei_fw-la the_o infant_n have_v faith_n baptis_fw-la com._n book_n c._n of_o baptis_fw-la i_o have_v the_o sacrament_n of_o faith_n and_o yet_o by_o our_o book_n the_o witness_n be_v cause_v to_o say_v it_o do_v believe_v and_o it_o have_v faith_n before_o it_o have_v the_o sacrament_n of_o faith_n i_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n pour_v upon_o it_o therefore_o bucer_n one_o of_o their_o own_o author_n better_a resolve_v the_o point_n show_v that_o it_o be_v 5._o buc._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-la reg_fw-la che_fw-it c._n 5._o fit_a for_o those_o that_o be_v of_o year_n and_o discretion_n to_o make_v promise_n of_o obedience_n at_o the_o same_o time_n when_o they_o be_v baptize_v but_o that_o child_n do_v it_o after_o they_o have_v be_v catechise_v and_o teach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o szegedinus_n si_fw-la baptizandus_fw-la 167._o szeg._n de_fw-fr bap_n p._n 167._o est_fw-la infans_fw-la nec_fw-la fides_fw-la nec_fw-la fidei_fw-la confessio_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la poscatur_fw-la absurdum_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la id_fw-la requirere_fw-la ab_fw-la infante_fw-la quodnec_fw-la deus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la requirit_fw-la nec_fw-la ille_fw-la per_fw-la aetatem_fw-la habere_fw-la nec_fw-la exprimere_fw-la potest_fw-la 48._o bez._n in_o conf_n c._n 4._o 48._o of_o the_o same_o judgement_n be_v beza_n wherefore_o most_o noble_a king_n 1._o see_v the_o interrogatory_n give_v man_n occasion_n to_o utter_v a_o untrueth_n before_o the_o lord_n 2._o see_v they_o give_v strength_n to_o their_o error_n that_o think_v child_n have_v faith_n which_o indeed_o they_o have_v not_o 3._o see_v the_o infant_n be_v not_o baptize_v into_o his_o own_o faith_n but_o into_o the_o faith_n of_o his_o father_n or_o susceptor_n 4._o see_v it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o say_v they_o do_v that_o which_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o reasonable_a man_n they_o can_v do_v 5._o see_v the_o first_o and_o best_a church_n know_v they_o not_o last_o see_v those_o church_n that_o receive_v they_o yet_o have_v many_o learned_a and_o good_a man_n that_o upon_o good_a ground_n dislike_v they_o we_o trust_v your_o majesty_n will_v establish_v that_o which_o shall_v be_v more_o please_v to_o god_n and_o better_a like_n to_o your_o best_a affect_a subject_n 3._o against_o confirmation_n 1._o where_o the_o gift_n be_v cease_v there_o the_o ceremony_n and_o the_o sign_n must_v cease_v also_o as_o anoint_v of_o the_o sick_a use_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v now_o cease_v because_o the_o miraculous_a gift_n of_o heal_v be_v cease_v 14._o jam._n 1._o 14._o but_o the_o gift_n of_o give_v the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v now_o cease_v as_o augustine_n say_v neque_fw-la enim_fw-la temporalibus_fw-la &_o sensibilibus_fw-la miraculis_fw-la per_fw-la manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la 16._o aug._n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr bapt._n c._n 16._o modo_fw-la datur_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la sicut_fw-la antea_fw-la dabatur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o see_v the_o miraculous_a gift_n be_v cease_v this_o kind_n of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o be_v the_o sign_n of_o it_o must_v cease_v also_o this_o be_v chemnitions_n reason_n against_o the_o popish_a sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n and_o so_o cross_n chemnic_n in_o exam_n fid_fw-we de_fw-fr confu_n m._n calf_n art_n 4._o treat_v of_o the_o cross_n likewise_o that_o learned_a man_n m._n calfield_n say_v lay_v on_o of_o hand_n serve_v to_o good_a use_n then_o when_o it_o please_v god_n at_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o apostle_n prayer_n to_o confer_v the_o visible_a grace_n of_o his_o spirit_n but_o now_o there_o be_v no_o such_o ministry_n in_o the_o church_n now_o that_o miracle_n be_v cease_v to_o what_o end_n shall_v we_o have_v this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n the_o sign_n without_o the_o
farm_n ne_fw-fr laici_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la ad_fw-la firmam_fw-la teneant_fw-la neither_o 5._o part_n 27._o c._n 3_o untruth_n we_o do_v not_o content_v ourselves_o with_o a_o 7._o part_n only_o reason_n of_o the_o petitioner_n motion_n concerue_v lay_v man_n tithe_n synod_n colon_n part_n 8._o c._n 5._o need_v it_o offend_v our_o brethren_n that_o we_o seem_v to_o be_v content_a with_o a_o sixth_o or_o seven_o part_n not_o a_o seven_o part_n only_o as_o they_o charge_v we_o of_o such_o impropriation_n we_o can_v wish_v the_o whole_a be_v restrain_v but_o see_v that_o some_o hold_v they_o by_o inheritance_n and_o some_o by_o purchase_n some_o of_o good_a place_n be_v whole_o maintain_v of_o they_o such_o a_o motion_n will_v have_v seem_v unreasonable_a we_o say_v as_o not_o long_o since_o a_o provincial_a synod_n complain_v decimas_fw-la potissimum_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la ministris_fw-la deberi_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la dubium_fw-la that_o tithe_n be_v principal_o due_a to_o the_o minister_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o now_o they_o be_v every_o where_o so_o usurp_v of_o lay_v man_n that_o they_o can_v easy_o be_v pull_v out_o of_o their_o hand_n and_o this_o be_v one_o cause_n of_o so_o qualify_a our_o motion_n as_o also_o lest_o we_o may_v have_v seem_v to_o be_v partial_a while_o we_o wish_v ecclesiastical_a impropriation_n to_o stand_v for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o their_o corporation_n and_o aim_v at_o the_o dissolution_n of_o they_o of_o the_o lie_v sort_n as_o further_o fear_v lest_o such_o a_o motion_n for_o these_o may_v have_v be_v prejudicial_a and_o dangerous_a for_o the_o other_o that_o serve_v to_o the_o maintenance_n of_o learning_n 16._o object_n it_o be_v possible_a that_o the_o man_n not_o untruth_n we_o despise_v they_o not_o who_o they_o so_o much_o contemn_v will_v be_v able_a to_o propose_v some_o other_o course_n etc._n etc._n answ_n this_o course_n to_o be_v take_v for_o impropriation_n tend_v not_o to_o the_o alteration_n or_o injury_n of_o any_o state_n and_o if_o the_o confuter_n who_o it_o be_v to_o be_v wish_v do_v no_o more_o despise_v their_o brethren_n than_o they_o be_v despise_v can_v have_v propose_v any_o other_o course_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o church_n they_o may_v have_v do_v well_o so_o to_o do_v but_o it_o may_v be_v worthy_o suspect_v that_o they_o can_v hardly_o give_v counsel_n to_o other_o that_o will_v not_o take_v it_o themselves_o that_o they_o which_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o defence_n of_o non-residents_a pluralist_n impropriation_n can_v speak_v for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o church_n ambrose_n say_v may_v well_o fit_a such_o quis_fw-la utilem_fw-la causae_fw-la alienae_n iudicet_fw-la quem_fw-la inutilem_fw-la 12._o lib._n offic_n 2_o 12._o videt_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la suae_fw-la quommodo_fw-la eum_fw-la iudicare_fw-la potes_fw-la superiorem_fw-la consilio_fw-la quem_fw-la vides_fw-la inferiorem_fw-la moribus_fw-la supra_fw-la i_o esse_fw-la debet_fw-la cvi_fw-la i_o committere_fw-la paro_fw-la a_o eum_fw-la idoneum_fw-la putabo_fw-la qui_fw-la mihi_fw-la det_fw-la consilium_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la that_fw-mi sibi_fw-la he_o can_v give_v counsel_n to_o another_o that_o will_v take_v none_o himself_o neither_o can_v he_o be_v superior_a in_o advice_n that_o be_v inferior_a in_o life_n and_o to_o conclude_v nothing_o can_v be_v object_v of_o any_o weight_n or_o moment_n to_o hinder_v so_o good_a a_o work_n and_o so_o princely_a a_o motion_n which_o the_o king_n majesty_n by_o his_o letter_n have_v first_o make_v who_o christian_a zeal_n ought_v to_o make_v other_o forward_a let_v every_o man_n lay_v aside_o his_o own_o private_a respect_n further_a the_o common_a cause_n and_o seek_v the_o general_a good_a of_o christ_n church_n that_o s._n paul_n complaint_n be_v not_o renew_v all_o seek_v their_o own_o and_o not_o that_o which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n phil._n 2._o 27._o and_o hierome_n well_o say_v ne_fw-fr lucra_fw-la saeculi_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la quaeras_fw-la militia_n &c_n &c_n seek_v not_o the_o worldly_a gain_n in_o christ_n service_n the_o defence_n of_o the_o four_o part_n of_o the_o petition_n concern_v church_n discipline_n 1._o obj._n we_o have_v be_v teach_v heretofore_o 20._o ans_fw-fr p._n 20._o that_o discipline_n be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o gospel_n etc._n etc._n and_o matter_n of_o faith_n ans_fw-fr that_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n be_v general_o understand_v be_v a_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o essential_a mark_n of_o the_o church_n i_o hope_v our_o brethren_n will_v not_o deny_v for_o discipline_n comprehend_v not_o only_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o key_n but_o 208._o perpetual_a government_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 208._o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n but_o without_o ordination_n there_o be_v no_o preacher_n how_o shall_v they_o preach_v unless_o they_o be_v send_v rom._n 10._o 15._o and_o without_o preach_v there_o be_v no_o belief_n ibid._n vers_fw-la 14._o wherefore_o without_o some_o part_n of_o discipline_n it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o church_n be_v no_o church_n faith_n no_o faith_n but_o general_o of_o every_o part_n it_o can_v be_v so_o affirm_v cyprian_n be_v very_o peremptory_a for_o the_o necessity_n of_o discipline_n thus_o write_v apparet_fw-la non_fw-la aliter_fw-la 7._o lib._n 2._o ep_n 7._o ecclesiasticae_fw-la saluti_fw-la consuli_fw-la posse_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o appear_v that_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o church_n can_v otherwise_o be_v provide_v for_o unless_o they_o which_o be_v against_o it_o as_o contrary_a flood_n be_v repel_v and_o the_o ardour_n of_o discipline_n as_o the_o stir_a oar_n in_o a_o tempest_n be_v keep_v safe_a 2._o obj._n it_o be_v now_o come_v to_o be_v so_o indifferent_a etc._n etc._n that_o it_o will_v suffer_v a_o or_o else_o or_o at_o the_o least_o ibid._n ans_fw-fr and_o what_o have_v the_o petitioner_n here_o move_v which_o the_o king_n most_o excellent_a majesty_n have_v not_o first_o write_v that_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n be_v preserve_v in_o 44._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 44._o purity_n according_a to_o god_n word_n what_o need_v our_o brethren_n then_o to_o have_v carp_v at_o this_o petition_n neither_o be_v that_o disiunctive_a clause_n or_o else_o at_o the_o least_o any_o contradiction_n or_o repugnance_n to_o the_o former_a but_o a_o exception_n and_o qualify_a thereof_o which_o give_v the_o adversary_n no_o advantage_n as_o the_o law_n say_v exceptionem_fw-la obijciens_fw-la non_fw-la videtur_fw-la de_fw-fr intention_n adversarij_fw-la confiteri_fw-la reg._n juris_fw-la 63._o and_o it_o be_v a_o condescend_v to_o the_o time_n that_o where_o the_o perfection_n desire_v can_v not_o be_v have_v reformation_n be_v seek_v that_o may_v be_v attain_v wherefore_o as_o the_o rule_n be_v in_o the_o law_n in_o argumentum_fw-la trahi_fw-la nequeunt_fw-la quae_fw-la propter_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la aliquando_fw-la sunt_fw-la concessa_fw-la reg._n juris_fw-la 78._o that_o which_o be_v yield_v to_o the_o necessity_n of_o time_n must_v not_o be_v urge_v as_o the_o integrity_n of_o the_o thing_n if_o christ_n institution_n be_v exact_o keep_v many_o thing_n shall_v be_v amend_v that_o be_v here_o not_o name_v but_o the_o petitioner_n have_v only_o mention_v those_o thing_n which_o in_o reason_n they_o think_v will_v not_o be_v deny_v or_o gainsayd_v 3._o obj._n be_v we_o persuade_v that_o their_o discipline_n be_v of_o christ_n institution_n can_v we_o be_v without_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ_n what_o our_o brethren_n will_v be_v persuade_v we_o know_v not_o but_o if_o these_o thing_n which_o be_v move_v be_v not_o prove_v to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n we_o desire_v not_o to_o be_v hear_v but_o to_o be_v reject_v with_o our_o cause_n we_o will_v not_o obtrude_v our_o own_o fancy_n but_o measure_n our_o judgement_n by_o the_o scripture_n as_o origen_n say_v exhibeo_fw-la sensus_fw-la mei_fw-la testem_fw-la scripturam_fw-la jerem._n homil._n 1._o in_o jerem._n homil._n 9_o in_o jerem._n sensus_fw-la nostri_fw-la &_o enarrationes_fw-la sine_fw-la ijs_fw-la testibus_fw-la non_fw-la habent_fw-la fidem_fw-la i_o yield_v the_o scripture_n a_o witness_n of_o my_o sense_n my_o exposition_n without_o the_o scripture_n let_v it_o be_v of_o no_o credit_n 4._o object_n his_o excellent_a majesty_n have_v have_v 20._o ans_fw-fr p._n 20._o experience_n of_o the_o manifold_a mischief_n that_o attend_v their_o pretend_a discipline_n etc._n etc._n answ_n this_o discipline_n and_o reformation_n intend_v by_o we_o be_v not_o attend_v upon_o by_o any_o such_o mischief_n other_o man_n oversight_n we_o justify_v not_o neither_o approve_v any_o unaduised_a proceed_n neither_o have_v his_o majesty_n so_o evil_a opinion_n of_o the_o scottish_a discipline_n as_o they_o insinuate_v the_o right_a use_n of_o a_o thing_n must_v not_o be_v condemn_v for_o the_o abuse_n as_o the_o law_n say_v utile_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la per_fw-la inutile_fw-la vitiari_fw-la neither_o the_o