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92._o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n wrought_v only_o by_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n death_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o rock_n that_o never_o can_v be_v shake_v even_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o abide_v for_o ever_o for_o as_o the_o redemption_n of_o mankind_n be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v only_o to_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n death_n and_o can_v without_o singular_a blasphemy_n be_v assign_v to_o any_o other_o thing_n so_o likewise_o be_v the_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n appropriate_v to_o the_o same_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n &_o can_v without_o like_o blasphemy_n be_v give_v to_o any_o work_n of_o man_n how_o excellent_a soever_o you_o make_v it_o a_o small_a matter_n to_o satisfy_v for_o sin_n that_o teach_v it_o be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o man_n by_o his_o own_o pain_n and_o penance_n to_o appease_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n whereby_o it_o plain_o appear_v you_o neither_o know_v the_o grievousnes_n of_o sin_n nor_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n that_o require_v a_o great_a punishment_n for_o sin_n than_o any_o man_n be_v able_a to_o suffer_v yea_o you_o charge_v the_o lord_n himself_o with_o injustice_n in_o that_o have_v lay_v the_o guiltiness_n of_o our_o sin_n upon_o his_o son_n and_o punish_v they_o all_o in_o he_o be_v not_o content_a with_o that_o punishment_n &_o satisfaction_n they_o if_o we_o do_v satisfy_v for_o our_o sin_n then_o have_v not_o christ_n satisfy_v for_o they_o but_o exact_v of_o we_o a_o further_a payment_n and_o satisfaction_n for_o the_o sin_n for_o which_o christ_n have_v once_o sufficient_o satisfy_v already_o the_o prophet_n say_v he_o be_v punish_v for_o our_o transgression_n 53.5_o esai_n 53.5_o he_o be_v bruise_v for_o our_o iniquity_n the_o chastisement_n of_o our_o peace_n be_v lay_v upon_o he_o &_o by_o his_o stripe_n be_v we_o heal_v and_o immediate_o again_o he_o repeat_v the_o same_o and_o say_v the_o lord_n make_v the_o punishment_n of_o we_o all_o to_o light_v upon_o he_o 1.7_o veâ—_n 7._o 1._o joh._n 1.7_o the_o apostle_n john_n say_v the_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n do_v purge_v you_o from_o all_o sâ—â—ne_n 1.5_o apoc._n 1.5_o and_o in_o his_o revelation_n he_o say_v that_o christ_n have_v wash_v we_o from_o our_o sin_n in_o his_o blood_n thus_o be_v we_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n of_o god_n to_o believe_v that_o our_o sin_n be_v forgive_v and_o we_o reconcile_v to_o god_n not_o for_o any_o thing_n that_o we_o can_v work_v or_o suffer_v but_o only_o for_o the_o death_n &_o blood-sheading_a of_o christ_n so_o all_o your_o satisfaction_n be_v hang_v upon_o the_o hedge_n and_o serve_v for_o nothing_o else_o but_o to_o plunge_v you_o deep_o into_o the_o pit_n of_o condemnation_n which_o you_o shall_v never_o escape_v so_o long_o as_o you_o trust_v to_o any_o satisfaction_n but_o only_o of_o christ_n as_o for_o your_o tridentine_a council_n which_o you_o allege_v it_o be_v but_o a_o babble_n a_o child_n may_v soon_o espy_v the_o vanity_n and_o falsehood_n of_o this_o divinity_n that_o you_o deliver_v we_o here_o by_o warrant_n of_o that_o council_n 8._o council_n trident_n sess_v 14._o ca._n 8._o this_o it_o be_v the_o satisfaction_n which_o we_o undertake_v for_o our_o sin_n be_v we_o but_o yet_o by_o christ_n jesus_n which_o in_o effect_n be_v all_o one_o as_o if_o they_o have_v say_v that_o christ_n himself_o have_v not_o satisfy_v for_o our_o sin_n at_o all_o but_o only_o have_v purchase_v to_o we_o a_o faculty_n and_o hability_n every_o man_n to_o satisie_n for_o his_o own_o sin_n 2.24_o the_o scripture_n teach_v that_o christ_n himself_o have_v satisfy_v for_o our_o sin_n 1._o pet_n 2.24_o this_o be_v the_o mystery_n of_o your_o satisfaction_n a_o mystery_n of_o great_a impiety_n for_o the_o scripture_n teach_v the_o clean_a contrary_n s._n peter_n say_v that_o christ_n have_v bear_v our_o sin_n in_o his_o body_n upon_o the_o cross_n and_o how_o have_v he_o bear_v they_o if_o he_o have_v not_o satisfy_v for_o they_o do_v he_o take_v they_o upon_o himself_o 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unlearned_a soever_o you_o think_v we_o be_v but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o light_n of_o his_o word_n can_v easy_o discover_v the_o falsehood_n and_o corruption_n of_o your_o religion_n let_v we_o now_o consider_v upon_o what_o point_v you_o be_v bold_a to_o utter_v so_o fond_o your_o judgement_n of_o i_o and_o thereby_o make_v trial_n of_o that_o profound_a learning_n which_o you_o take_v to_o yourself_o with_o out_o cause_n as_o shall_v here_o and_o every_o where_o appear_v first_o you_o charge_v i_o 98._o pag._n 98._o that_o i_o understand_v not_o m._n martin_n meaning_n which_o though_o it_o be_v true_a yet_o be_v it_o i_o trust_v a_o venial_a offence_n but_o i_o perceive_v his_o meaning_n well_o enough_o &_o frame_v my_o answer_n direct_o to_o the_o same_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o to_o attribute_v to_o our_o suffering_n the_o virtue_n of_o satisfy_v for_o our_o sin_n be_v not_o injurious_a to_o the_o passion_n &_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n i_o say_v it_o be_v 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