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A13578 A sermon teaching discretion in matters of religion, and touching certayne abuses nowe in the Churche preached at Paules Crosse the 21. of Nouember by Robert Temple Bachelor in Diuinitie sometimes of Magdalene Colledge in Oxforde. Temple, Robert, Bachelor in Diuinitie. 1592 (1592) STC 23869; ESTC S100993 26,698 73

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his visitatiō in Asia spy out as in my cleargy mē as come in by simonie some in one dioces some in an other and put them out if there be 13. bishops at a clap Ambros epis● lib. 50. orat ● Auxent Shall Ambrose sentēce be heard Quid sunt cathedrae nisi honores quid sunt columbae nisi mentes simplices vel animae fidem cādidam puram sequentes ergo iubetur exire qui dignitates vendit et honores iubetur exire qui vendere vult simplices mentes fideliū What are the seates but places of honour what are the doues but the seelie mindes soules of such as followe the cleare and pure fayth then he is commaunded to go forth of the church that sells dignities and honours he is cōmaunded to go out of the church that will sell the seelie consciēces of the faithful Basill doth call it transitum ad Gehēnan Hellferrie and so I feare me it is in deed both for the priest the people Barnard tels a tale of Martin a Cardinaall prelate whoe returning in his Legacie from Dacia was so poore his money and horses fayling him that he coulde scarse come to Florence The Bishop of Florence gaue him a horse which brought him to Pise where Barnard reporteth he was at the same time the next daye after the Bishop of Florence came to Pise requiring for the dispatch of some cause hee had in lawe the testimonie of his freindes presuming of the Cardinall amonge the rest for his late good turne came to him for his voice then sayde Martin you haue deceiued mee sir I litle knewe ye had such busines in hand the very same houre resigned his horse Barnard bringes this in to vpbrayde both the insolencie and simonie of the Court of Rome in Pope Eugenius time because Martin passing throughe a Countrie of gold and siluer tooke no knowledge of it moreouer would not be so much as suspected to take any gift at all As litle as I like Martin Marprelate surelie this was Martin good-prelate Martin good prelat and I would to God that euery one both Bishop and other minister were such a Martin Now concerning your selues of the Auditory Contempt in the common people Manie faultes likewise are common in you Contempt of Prophecie is one and the first For whereas the end of this notable gift of Prophecie is edification as ye heard afore the people in these daies are growne to a hatefull contempt and rebellious disobeidience of the word preached as the Prophet sayd in his time Ierm 5.13 The warning of the Prophets is but winde the worde of God is not in them They say prophecie not Mich. 2.6.11 yee shall not prophecie vnto vs no ye shall not Euerye paynfull minister may finde Bernards wordes to be true Berna cant serm 42. Coarctore duobus et quid eligam nescio placere ne mihi in eo quod locutus sum quoniam quod debui feci an penitentiam agere super verbo meo quia quod volui non recepi Besids a threefold perill of the labour and worke in respect of our selues conscience intelligēce vtteraunce Conscience to be rightlie called by inward testimonie Intelligence to perceiue the deuine sence of the scripture vtteraunce to teach the people of which three the first is requisit the second hard the thirde in maner harder then the second yee do ad a threefold harder difficultie then all that is to procure your teachablenes in hearing faythfulnes in beleeuing holinesse in obeying For oh Lord who hath giuē credence to our preaching Esay 53.1 Rom. 10. ●6 Esay 65.2 Rom. 10.21 or who hath beleeued our report All the day long do we stretch forth our hands to a disobedient gaynsaying people but erre not I pray you and bee not deceiued Greater far authority is the prophesie in the gospell then of old far more fearefull to dispise the one then contēne the other Iohn Baptist Math. 11.6 more then a prophet none greater among mē begottē of women yet the least in the kingdome of heauen greater then hee The Apostle commaundes vs not to despise prophecying for no doubt hee that despiseth 1. Thes 5.19 1. Thes 4.8 1. Sam. 8.7 despiseth not man but god who hath giuen you his holy spirit The Lord sayd to Samuell the prophet They haue not cast thee away but cast me away so sayde Christ to his disciples Luk. 10.16 He that heareth you heareth mee and he that dispiseth you dispiseth me he that dispiseth me despiseth him that sent me And in deed all former prophets in their visions did leuell with their eyes and looke strait on Christ the only prophet of all To him al gaue witnes that through his name al that beleue in him should receaue remission of sinnes Ambrose saith Act. 10.43 Amb. Luc. 9. lib. 7. Et hodie Moses docet et hodie Elias loquitur et hodie in maiori gloria Mosen videre possimus Euē now a dayes Moses teacheth and now a dayes Elias speaketh and now a dayes wee may see Moyses in a great deale more glorie Nay Barnard seemeth to require the grace of prophecie in as manie of your selues as are deuout and godlie For saith hee Vbi angelica in hoc corpore conuersatio in corde prophetica expectatio in vtroque apostolica perfectio inuenitur gratus iste cumulus gratiarum Where we haue in this our bodie a conuersatiō like vnto the Angels in the hart an hope as the prophets had in both the Apostles perfectiō how great an aboundance is it of Gods graces Arogancie in ●he people Arrogancie is an other fault in our people For manie haue a dedignatiō to bee taught surmising themselues more sufficiently to haue the sence of the spirit and sincerlie the knowledg of the truth thē any learned preacher of them all As though it were a protrit base matter that St. Paule speaketh of ● Cor. 2.10 to search the deepe things of God And whereas the Apostle would haue the spirits euen of the Prophets subiecte ● Cor. 14.32 to the Prophets 2. Pet. 1.20 2. Tim. 3 1● 1 Cor. 12 2● these will admit no censure of anie else but onlie their owne priuate interpretation yet being no Prophets as though Prophecie were of priuate interpretation Greg. nazia● Theol. orat 1 all were Apostles all Prophets all Teachers Gregorie Nazianzen writeth of Eunomius who as though hee were rapt into heauen after Elias 2. Reg. 2.11 made worthye to talke with God Exod. 19.9 and beholde him in a cloud after Moyses taken vp into Paradice hearing impossible things to be vttered 2. Cor. 12. ● after Paule doth sayth he in one daies space make manie mo Sainctes and creat deuines as it were inspiring learning into them causing many conuenticles of vnlearned praters and of such an immediate vpstart spirit aboue the sober