Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
cause_n bring_v day_n lord_n 1,882 5 3.6758 3 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A19948 A discourse of the conference holden before the French King at Fontain-bleau between the L. Bishop of Eureux, and Munsieur de Plessis L. of Mornay, the 4. of May 1600. Concerning certaine pretended corruptions of authors, cyted by the sayd Munsieur de Plessis in his booke against the Masse. Faithfully translated out of the French. 1600 (1600) STC 6381; ESTC S109408 46,856 60

There are 2 snippets containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

some held for sound reasons that for hauing named 5. hundred he was not bound to particulate them That he kept his word if he nominated but ten or lesse and further that it were too much trouble for him to write them and such like But truely by a former resolution betweene those that managed this affayre it was concluded to giue the Lord of Eureux whatsoeuer aduantage he might desire and to deny the sayd Lord of Plessis of whatsoeuer Iustice he could require so that he might scratch either by right or wrong some number of places chosen out of fiue thousand and more to inferre an appearaunce of preiudice against the whole booke Thus this three meanes were in all humility proposed vnto the King by the Lord of Plessis not onely by word of mouth but by a most humble petition also the which his Maiesty commaunded him to giue to the Lord Chauncellor But after he had preferred the equitye of his cause to his Maiesty by all these reasons which to him seemed most requisite his aunswere was that he would send for the said Lord Chancellor and giue him commission to bring the Lords of Plessis and Eureux to agree vpon the forme And presently his Maiestie sent for them The same day toward euening the L. Chancellor sent for the L. of Plessis and began to discourse vnto him that the King had tolde him that he had committed to him the charge to warne the sayd L. of Plessis to be ready for the sayd conserence and therefore that it must needs be that eyther his Maiesty had forgotten to commaund him or himselfe to speake to the sayd Lord of Plessis Whereunto the Lord of Plessis aunswered that it sufficed in case he would remember as hee did that hee had not spoken vnto him Thus after some speaches he deliuered him the petition that he had presented to his Maiesty and because there was some difference about the forme he desired him to vouchsafe to consider vpon the three aforesayd offers But the two formost were absolutelye reiected vnder pretence that the chalenger of falsehood might set vpon his party where he list without respect that the question concerned the quotation of a booke which to speake vprightly helde of the nature not of a contract but of an inquest the disputation was wholy settled vpon the last The sayd L. of Plessis pretending that sith this matter was spoken of as to be handled in tearmes of Law he being the Defendant was not to be denyed his Aduersaries action of falsehood that he might answere thereunto sith that vnder pretence of forme of lawe he had bene denyed the examination of the whole booke thereby to minister opportunitye to the L. of Eureux to impugne him in what place he list And that in this matter he looked for Iustice at the said L. Chauncelors hands which he assured himselfe he very wel perceiued in this his petition otherwise that besides that he should haue cause to protest against the sayd Lord of Eureux vpon slaunder hee should vppon refusall of so lawfull conditions haue no lesse argument to doubt of too manifest partiallity The end was this that the sayd Lord Chauncellor sent for the sayd L. of Eureux with whom he spent some 3. quarters of an houre then comming into his Gallery where the L. of Plessis wayted his answere he tolde him that the sayd L. of Eur. would not heare of the deliuery of his action of falsehood much lesse of his fiue hundred places That he did not thinke himselfe bound therto by his writing that the writing of them wold aske a month and a halfe or more that in tearmes of law to require a condition impossible and not to yeeld to doe any thing was all one and matter alike The L. of Ples replyed that in his opinion hee craued but right before all Iudges whatsoeuer that the Lord of Eureux in shrinking from his proposition for the examination of the whole booke had bound himselfe to his owne offer that in truth hee beleeued that hee could not possibly performe the fiue hundred vntruthes by him promised well might he peraduenture deliuer in fiue hundred pretended sith he had them ready tolde sith also that hauing answered his book he had no more to doe but to draw them out Otherwise how could he purge himselfe of slaunder Finally the L. Plessis concluding that he might not depart from this last course and that the said L. Chauncellor the next morning would make report thereof to the King Munday the first of May the L. of Plessis heard of nothing but that the L. of Eureux still stood vpon his denyall to deliuer his fiue hundred places and still was at the Kinges elbow to make him comprehend that this was not the way to come to his pretended purpose and the same day there arriued the President of Thou M. Pithou M. Cas●ubon and the Phisition Martin whom his Maiesty had most earnestly sent for The last man of these being brought in by the L. of Eureux could not conceale his passion in this matter but bare himselfe as a party To them did his Maiesty declare that he called them not to be Iudges but only interpreters in case there should grow any controuersie about the speeches but reserued to himselfe the iudgement And heere is to be noted that only Casaubon was of the religion wherof notwithstanding the L. of Plessis made no instance Tewsday the second of May about eyght of the clocke at night the L. Chauncellor sent for the L. of Ples to intimate vnto him the Kinges pleasure The summe was this that the King had ordained that the L. Bishop of Eureux should in his Maiesties presence open the booke shew vnto him one after another those places wherein he pretended falsehood to the number of 50. if time would so permit whereto he must presently aunswere in order as they should be propounded for sayd he it was to be supposed that the sayd Lord of Plessis hauing produced them should at all tymes bee ready to answere Heere let the reader iudge what memory could bee capable of so many reasons presently to aunswere so many obiections for must hee not by that account be alwayes prouided for all albeit he were assaulted but with some Moreouer that if hee could not fit himself to this condition his Maiesty was resolued in his owne presence to haue the falsehoods by the L. of Eur. pretended to be verified in his absence to the end to determine therof according as reason required as also by his standing vpon his words he gaue him to vnderstand that he concealed more rigour thē he yet shewed stil vrging sundry times that he had that night to resolue himself Neyther did the said L. of Ples fayle to lay open vnto him the extreamity of this condition which could not be so precisely imposed vpon him but with a manifest resolution to oppresse the truth in his person That if hee did not plainely
A DISCOVRSE OF THE CONFERENCE HOLDEN before the French King at Fontain-bleau betweene the L. Bishop of Eureux and Munsieur du Plessis L. of Mornay the 4. of May 1600. Concerning certaine pretended corruptions of Authors cyted by the sayd Munsieur du Plessis in his booke against the Masse Faithfully translated out of the French LONDON Printed by E. A. for Mathew Selman and William Ferbrand and are to be solde in Fleete-streete next the Inner Temple gate 1600. A true discourse of the conference held at Fontaine-Bleau the 4. of May. 1600. SInce that the Lord Bishop of Eureux perswadeth himself that the dishonor and ouerthrowe of the Doctrine Preached in the reformed Churches of the Realmes of Fraunce Almaine England Scotand Denmarke Swethen and Poand c. Dependeth on the confutation of the Lord Plessis booke written vpon the Sacrament of the Eucharist which doctrine is maintained by this book as it may be gathered frō his priuate letters to the L. Ples●is As if the Ministers of all the Kingdomes in this last endeuour had put all their heads into one body to be cut off by this new Hercules returned from hel And sith for hauing onely deflowred certaine places of the said book he boasteth of the victory causeth Te Deum to be sung in euery place Let no man blame vs if by this our writing wee oppose the truth against those falshoods which haue beene published since we are thereunto bound by the duety which we owe vnto God and for the instruction of his people Truth it is that since L. Plessis booke of the institution of the Sacrament was published some haue found out no other meanes to trauerse the course thereof then by publishing both in word and writing that the places by him alleadged as wel of holy Scripture as the Fathers were falcified yeelding sufficient testimony by this their sinister subtilty that his allegations auerred iustified the doctrine he professed should be both cleare certaine and inpugnable Neuerthelesse he patiently endured this slaunder partly endeuouring himselfe to ouer-throw it by his answeres partly trusting that of it selfe at last it would giue place to verity Vntill he had intelligence that the bruite thereof had come to the Kings eares yea and got so great creadit as he verily beleeued it Wherupon agreeued yea that iustly he desired that hee might come to his iustification And for that there were some that laboured to diuert certaine Gentlemen of the religion vnder this pretext he tooke occasion to request the L. Bishop of Eureux by a priuate letter that both of them might ioyne together in a most humble petition to his Maiesty that it might please him to appoint Commissaries before whome the booke might be therby examined to whom in especially he addressed himselfe because the said Bishop was the principall author of the said euill report wrote ordinarily to his friends in disgrace of the said L. of Plessis by certain his suffragans published the same from house to house as it were from doore to doore By this meanes the L. of Plessis promised himselfe that the said L. Bishop vpon this priuate letter sent vnto him by the handes of his brother would without any further trouble repayre to Paris wheras by accord of both parties his Maiesty might ordaine such a one of his Priuy counsell as he thought most fitte to deliuer him a true report of their conference In which case the matter being manadged with this silence and discreation his Maiesty might haue no other interest then the knowledge of the truth A care worthy of so a great King and the tytle which he beares to know aswell the good as the euill fayth of a seruitour accused of falshood before him a cryme alwayes haynous but more haynous in respect of the subiect being matter of Conscience and Diuinity Contrariwise the said Lord Bishop tooke a quite opposite course ratling out vppon this priuate and modest letter a publique and insolent booke which he caused to be Imprinted in his owne house and published at Paris by which of this perticuler controuersie he made a publique quarrell and of two persons two factions calling all the Catholique Romaine Church to warrant interressing the King in all that he might in this cause and principally to diswade the examining of the booke proposed by the Lord of Plessis whose iustification he knew too well that he could not ouer-throw For which cause hee articled falsely against the said booke to draw vnto himselfe the tytle and quallity of a Plaintife and vndertooke to approoue in presence of his Maiesty fiue hundred heynous and grose errours manifest and without Hiperbole yea such sayth he as they may be iudged by the onely looking on vpon the opening of the booke without entring into the iudgement of the sence And notwithstanding he offered himselfe further besides that to make it appeare that there was not in that book one onely place but was eyther falsely impertinently or vnprofitably alleaged These were the very wordes which the reader may note vpon what ground hee generally taxed the whole booke To this booke notwithstanding the L. of Plessis in respect of the King and according to his owne nature answered with great modesty reuealing the matter as much as in him lay from a publique to a perticuler triall twixt the Bishop and himselfe from partyes by him pretended to their seuerall persons So that by some this same simplicity of his answere was scarce wel interpreted But for that he knew that the sayd L. Bishop had sent a Coppy of that which he had published and written with aduantage enough vpon the same subiect to his Maiesty he was counsailed likewise to write vnto him beseeching him most humbly to vouchsafe to enter into the approbation of his sayd book by the grant of certayne Commissaries of sufficient knowledge that might haue the charge to examine the same from the one ende to the other in publishing whereof he protested that he aymed at no other end but to prepare his subiects heartes and make them capable of the seede of so holy a reformation in his time The Doctors of Sorbonne likewise were sodainely incensed against this proposition apprehending a serious examination of this booke and perceiuing well in theyr consciences that it could not take effecte but to their domage and indignity They appointed certaine Deligates amongst them to make relation hereof to the popes Nuncio who fore-seeing too wel to what inconuenience it might tend sought out the King to certifie him hereof Beseeching his Maiesty that it might passe no further and laying before his eyes the issue therof Annexing alwaies to all that he had vrged most instant complaints against the Author and the booke But hereupon there were some that assured him that the matter should be carried with such Art with such aduantage for the Church of Rome as the Pope could not but content himselfe therewith and namely in these wordes