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A87687	Baptism without bason. Or, Plain Scripture-proof against infant-baptism, I. By way of answer to Mr. Baxter's arguments, and to the exercitations of Mr. Sidenham, teacher to a church a[t] Newcastle, concerning infants baptism: for which that their pretended consequences are from concessions not to be granted, and from Scriptures as mistaken, and absolutely wrested, is clearly discovered. With II. Several questions and answers, positively holding out the minde of Christ in baptizing of believers onely; and that the magistrates may be induced more and more to encourage the preaching thereof in publike. III. A declaration written to the election of grace, who for want of information are of contrary judgment. Written by William Kaye, minister of the Gospel at Stokesley.	Kaye, William.	1653 (1653)	Wing K32; Thomason E715_13; ESTC R207264	49,935	54

and judge of him as from full satisfaction proceed to baptize him when by teaching the party is discipled and therefore God in his wisedome that giveth every thing its name doth not approve of calling a Child a Disciple neither can baptisme make a Child or any man a Disciple how would Mr. B. then make a Child a Disciple but because by grace as any is taught to profess to follow Christ and is so discipled as a Disciple and as a believer we do baptize them Thus having answered Mr. B. first Argument and reasons whereby he would have proved a Child a Disciple his enterprize failing to prove a Child a Disciple to make work for Poedo-baptisme he produceth this his second Argument Mr. B. 2 Argu. chap. 4. p. 23. My second Argument and therefore the cheife I make use of is this All that ought to be admitted visible Church-members ordinarily ought to be baptized But some Infants ought to be admitted visible Church-members Therefore some Infants ordinarily ought to be baptized Answ Of this second Argument Mr. B. giveth this superlative encomium that this is his chief but believe me if he could have made his first Argument good whereby a Child might have been discipled he then had had commission for what he had said and therefore he failing to make his incompleat disciple to be baptized he would now see what he can do to make a consequence from his first Argument whereof this second is but a shadow for if Children be not Disciples they can be no members of the Church visible but they are not Disciples for indeed to be a disciple a member of a visible Church differeth no more then that a man that intendeth to list himself to be a Souldier and is approved of onely wanteth an opportunity to have his admission or approbation so a Disciple as soon as he declares himself and is willing to yeild himself up to serve God with his Saints is made a visible Church-member but that this work of wonder did ever appear in Infants that they were ever heard thus to declare their good affection to the government of Christs church I never yet heard and as soon as I hear them I will submit to Mr. B's Arguments and say that those Children thus declaring themselves for Christ and his Church must needs be admitted visible Church-members but till this appear visibly I desire Mr. B. would content to forbear to intrude them since Christs commission will not give leave for such to be baptized in his name that know not Christ or yet have not named him and yet Mr. B. to prove his second Argument forgetting his promise that he would not meddle with other mens Arguments hath scraped up all the thredbar'd impertinent consequences that any before had pretended to have blocked up the mouth of the Cannon or to make the worke more tedious to gain-say or oppose him while therefore I was intending to have lighted a Candle to have discovered or rather dispelled this great cloud of darkness Providence so ordered it that a book intituled A Christian sober and plaine Exercitation on two grand practical controversies of this time Baptisme and singing of Psalmes writen by C. Sidenham teacher to a Church of Christ in New-castle being brought unto me and I finding upon perusal thereof that it treated as sufficiently of all Mr. Baxters consequences and with no less advantage to his cause and in that Mr. Sidenham with his party hath as powerfull an influence to stop an ear Therefore I thought that I might bear better testimony to the truth to answer Mr. Baxter in Mr. Sidenhams booke in which way I take no more liberty then he hath done with the right worthy and Apostolical Mr. Tombes And yet before I proceed according to my promise I desire to hint something to Mr. Baxter upon the fourth particular which I first mentioned 4. That Mr. B. hath contradicted himself in speaking evill of the Ordinance of Baptisme as by his two Arguments will appear is to be discovered Mr. Baxter chap. 12. p. 134. his first Argument That which is a plain breach of the sixth commandment is no Ordinance of Jesus Christ but a most hainous sin But the ordinary practice of dipping the head in cold water is a breach of the sixth commandment Ergo it is a most hainous sin Answ It is impossible that an effectually called Child of God can raise this Argument without check of conscience or contradiction he approving of the way of baptisme in Brasill and yet in his Argument contradicts the same practise of Christ upon the pretence of the cold climate and custome of the Country Alas Alas this needs no answer for hereby the Scripture is experienced their o●n ●ongues shall make them fall or at least Mr. B. I hope is ashamed or may be ashamed of this cavilling scandalous Argument in making a Christians submission to the Ordinance of Christ a hainous sin and in telling us it is good for nothing but to dispatch men out of the world and to ripen Church-yards these be his words What if he had lived in the time of circumcision he that can dispence to prevaricate Christs command in baptisme by pouring a little water or sprinkling a Childs face with two or three drops of water certainly if acted with the same Spirit he would have thought the ripple of a pin or a drop or two of blood to be spilt to have been sufficient to have answered the command in circumcision Mr. Baxter 2 Argument If it be a breach of the seventh commandment Thou shalt not commit Adultery ordinarily to baptize naked then it is an intolerable wickedness and not Gods command But it is a breach of the seventh command to baptize naked Therefore it is an intolerable wickedness and not Gods command Answ I am ashamed to name Mr. Baxters lightness in mentioning upon supposition onely the Maids of Bewdley though we have no example for being baptized naked nor any thing against it and therefore as an indifferent thing a Saint may as well be baptized naked as Saints prophesied naked yet it is well known that Garments with decency are approved of And will Mr. Baxter argue against an Ordinance because some probable evill may ensue why then doth he administer the Lords Supper seeing probably so administred many eat and drink their own damnation not discerning the Lords Body or why doth he allow of marriage meat drink and apparell seeing abuse hath been found in them why doth he therefore upon uncertain conjectures speak evill of the way of God in the administration of baptisme may he not be ashamed thus to contradict himself what is Christs command to be observed in a hot Country and not in a cold when were any killed with any one of the diseases that he hath reckoned though to some thereof baptisme hath been a present remedy In regard therefore Mr. Baxter hath so presumptuously shamelesly scandalously and malignantly spoken evill against the express

sheep shall hear his voice but that strange voice of baptizing Infants never spoken of in the Scripture shall they not hear Come let us reason the case can Pedobaptism be a plant that our Heavenly Father hath planted that spreads forth its luxurious branches and makes a shadow for the world to rest themselves under in the Cradle of security Baptized disciples falsly slandered Close not your eyes nor shut your ears against the revelation of truth though common fame would afright you as some did the Israelites to obstruct their marching into Canaan telling them that there were great Zamzummims there and therefore if you will believe them they will tell you what monstrous people the Anabaptists are if you look that way you shall lose your selves in the midst of darkness and delusions they will draw you away from all Scriptures and Ordinances but try before you trust and search into their profession and you shall see the contrary that there was ever any way of God but it was ever evill spoken of Did they not say of John the baptist that he had a Devil The way of God ever evil spoken of Did not the world cast spots of reproaches in our Masters face who was without sinne or any spot or wrinkle If they do these things to the green Tree what will they do to the dry Were not the old professors shortly after the times of the Apostles in that they called one another Brother and Sister accused of incest and fornication and when they were forced to forsake the world and went into caves did not the Troubled Sea the Sons of Belial cast mire and dirt into their faces saying That they laid lurking there to rob and spoil those that passed by Just Mart. Apol. so that Justin Martyr was forced to make an Apology for their justification And thus Luther and Martin Bucer c. were slandered with them by reproaches and yet they were no more troubled Ex Guibert Genebrard then Luther was with the Popes Bull of which he said O Bulla vere Bullarum filia Be not then discouraged you know this is an evidence of their condemnation but of your salvation It s enough to give an account of faith and that in the name of God to assure you that there is nothing to be owned but Christ and his Commandments whereby he is our Saviour and hath made himself an example for us to imitate him in all things Miracles excepted But alas all the pretences and consequences that the most learned can produce cannot make the delusion of sprinkling children to be baptism God that never lyed did never require an action to be done against sence and reason nor can representations or intentions alter an express command to the contrary Were it enough think you if any of you bid should your servant give a cup of water to a thristy soul were it enough for that servant to put his hand into the cup and sprinkle the man in the face with two or three drops of water were this to obey his Masters command I trow not and yet no more is done in sprinkling of children in answering the Comand of Christ in Baptism And though this might be reformed and that you might say with the Eunuch Lo here is water what letteth that the Child may not be baptized To this the same answer must be returned that Philip made to the Eunuch If the Child can beleive with all its heart it may but let the Child alone though it may be pretended to be the Child of a believer We know or may know that believers themselves Rebaptization Acts 19.1 2 3 4 In the case of ignorance of the fundamental truth or of the commission for Baptism which were really and fully baptized because they were at that time ignorant of the holy Ghost were upon that account all the fundamentals being not revealed without which baptism cannot be warrantable rebaptized when we were sprinkled great darkness in comparison of the light of Gospel-reformation that now shineth was then as a cloud over-veiling the Word What hole can cavill find to seek evasion unless we say we are not believers Is it not then the duty of Disciples to imitate their Lord and Master who in submitting to this glorious Gospel-Ordinance made himself our example in which he was said to fulfill all righteousness This is the way to humble a soul to give satisfaction of the profession of Faith and the testimony of a good conscience to this the presence of Christ our peace light and life and protection is promised Tindal's wick●d Mommon fol. 25. That you intend no evill is easily to be believed But as Tindall the blessed Martyr said That though Peter of a good minde or intention would perswade Christ not to have suffered yet Christ for all that called him Satan It s one thing to have a good intention and another to do of knowledge God saith he hath made a testament between him and us wherein is contained both what he would have us to do and what he would have us to ask of him see therefore thou do nothing to please God withall but what he commandeth And that they might be good and Godly men and Martyrs that were never more then sprinkled Ten Martyrs in Eng. Hen. 8. anno 1553. it may be granted but then it was the time that the smoak was in the Temple Martyrs have suffered for the profession of the baptizing of believers only but never any Martyrs have suffered in the defence of Infant pretended baptism If we would look on humane example It not for us to say as those obstinate unbelievers that the Maryr Stephen reproved who said As our Fathers did so will we do Can there be any more precious in our eyes then to be led by the example of Christ and his Apostles If you be not of the election of grace if you would you ought not to be baptized And if God have elected us and we live under the means our hearts and judgements shall be changed we shall be the people that shall be made willing in the day of Christs power whether you will or no. Cease then poor souls be humble and patient and wait till you see that God will do with you shoot not your bolt to wound your Saviour through the sides of his despised Members Be ye the Disciples of Doctor Gamaliel untill Christ make you his It was the Pharisees and Lawyers that rejected the counsell of God against themselves and would not be baptized Luk. 7.30 but the election of grace must needs submit As they are under the means of information they have a promise to be effectually called they cannot close their eyes All the election of grace as they shall be under the means shall profess Baptism as the means of seeing is revealed unto them and if they have light already and yet see not in something that is newly discovered then they are like a man in a dark Dungeon that seeth as soon as the window or interpretation of the Scripture is opened unto them But no light no means can make a blind man see whom God will not call though the heavenly Lamp were never so resplendent And though a naturall man shine as a Star in the Church yet shall the taile of the Beast cast him down from the new Heaven or the Church into his proper place or earthly Element he cannot finish his course he cannot like his tempter abide in the truth he cannot receive the love of the truth that he might be saved But on the contrary Joh. 4.44 2 Thess 2.10 all the election of grace they cannot though with Paul they have commission to persecute the Saints nay though they have renounced the truth as divers * Archbish C. Io. Bayaham Lawyer Martyrs did rest till at length they return to their first love and to the profession of the Gospel from whence they are fallen Let us then content our selves if our Master be pleased to call but a few to serve him if we be in the number of that few that are called Let the election then wait on the means and see what God will do or dispose of them and not trouble themselves like Zobedee's Mother to desire that for her Children that cannot be granted her To conclude therefore either to stop the mouths of opposers or to open the heart as the Lord is pleased if at this time you will hear his voice that hath commanded to baptize believers if reason may be heard or true information may not be despised you may see in the confession or practices of contrary judgements as much as may raze down the foundation of Infant pretended baptism Artic. 27. Church of England in that it is acknowledged that there is no express tearms in the Scripture for Pedobaptism and that by experience it may be sufficiently evidenced in our hearts and consciences as is made visible that such inevitable evils follow Infants sprinkling as that it brings all the World into the Church which should be called out of the World and is the onely obstacle or cause of the division of all gathered Churches they differing nothing but in Infant sprinkling in which the Church of Rome or rather the World forced into order is in present practise and from which all the Churches of Christ ought to be totally separated or effectually called out of Babylon the very consequences by which Infants-sprinkling a meer delusion and prevarication to the command of Christ as mens inventions being altogether groundless and unwarrantable and though proved are of no force or validity to contradict the express command or example of Christ and his Apostles to the contrary Let then all real zealous sincere converted Christians hear Christs voice who hath commanded to teach and baptize all Nations and let them with all their old fellow-servants desire to imitate Christ their Master who was baptized to make himself an example to fulfill all righteousness And let us not think that his arm is shortened that he cannot help or that he is not faithfull who in this Gospel-Ordinance hath promised his presence in which all the Saints have found and ever unto the end of the World shall most surely find their onely protection comfort peace and glory FINIS

S. hath not opened but shut up or turned the stream of those gracious expressions of Scripture And yet upon conclusion after a great deal of discourse this chapter consisting of almost a sheet of paper he concludes that however this Scripture holds forth the promise of believers of the Gospel both Jews and Gentiles and their children which is true if the last words wherein all the main business depends be applied whereby we may see to whom this promise is made even to as many as the Lord our God shall call Mr. S. chap. 6. pag. 45. having hitherto endeavoured to plead his own cause by the strongest Arguments which by consequence he could produce now endeavouring to throw down our foundation in this sixth chapter he tells us that our great plea from Mat. 3.8 9. is made vain These be Mr. S's words That we may still take off the Objections let us view that place so much stood on Matth. 3.8 9. When John saw many of the Pharisees and Sadduces come to his Baptism he sayth O generation of vipers who hath forewarned you to flee from the wrath to come Bring forth fruits meet for repentance And think not to say that you have Abraham to your father for I say that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham From this text they gather The pretence of being Abrahams children could not give them a right to Baptism And if John denyed Abraham's seed upon that account much more would he the adopted children That this is no such ominous place against Infant-baptism consider who they were he spake unto the Pharisees and Sadduces men of age and degenerate from Abrahams faith persons that lived in their own works and righteousness therefore he calls them a generation of vipers which was not as they were Abrahams children but as they walked not in Abrahams steps and were quite degenerate Answ To which I answer that the plea is not vain as Mr. S. in the contents of his chapter pretendeth that is by us made from Matth. 3.8 9. though to obscure the light that therein shineth or for Mr. S. to light his candle or gloss or interpretation to darken the sun-light of express Scripture is labour in vain in that 1. I say that Matth. 3.8 9. in the general is directly against Infant-baptism in that none but such as have faith and repentance must think to be baptized is as clear a place as can be desired or pleaded for 2. That the pretence or consequence from Circumcision from this of Mat. 3.8 9. Think not to say you have Abraham to your father is also condemned it appears that John did not judge them to have any benefit or priviledge as being Abrahams seed according to the Law Rom. 4.16 whereby Abraham was their father by circumcision Gen. 17.5 16. And therefore John apprehending the Pharisees and Sadduces as Mr. S. c. do to stile themselves through this pretended priviledge from Abraham without looking home for faith and repentance which every childe of Abraham should have which calls Abraham father by faith as onely they that believe ought to do Gal. 3.7 therefore to undeceive the Pharisees and Sadduces and to unbottom them and to throw down their sandy foundation that John in the simplicity of the Gospel might be downright with them though it 's true that Mr. S. sayth that he did not call them a generation of vipers as they were Abrahams seed yet that they might not through fleshly confidence make their plea or rest upon this account that they might be baptized being but Abrahams seed according to Law and not by faith he tells them to undeceive them saying Think not to say that you have Abraham to your father as that you should think upon this account that I should baptize you therefore John without as much as taking notice which he would have done if there had been cause of any legal priviledge they had by Abraham to plead for Baptism onely exhorts them to faith and repentance by which they are the children of Abraham by faith Rom. 4.12 16. Gal. 3.7 which John makes the ground of his admittance unto Baptism unto which Gospel-ordinance none but a taught disciple by the express and plain words of Christ ought to be admitted And therefore our plea that the pretence of being Abrahams children by Law or Circumcision could not give a right to Baptism as hath been before often proved is very warrantable so that John did not desire to dispossess them or question them as the Legal seed or children of Abraham but onely let them know that they ought not to have so much as a thought to get Baptism though they should think to say We have Abraham to our father which in other respects it was both lawful for them to think profess and affirm that they were Abrahams children according to the Law but yet not to plead it as a consequence for Baptism much less for their childrens And but that I strive not to take advantage upon every occasion it 's an easie thing to prove by the words of Christ in that he did approve of the Pharisees to sit in Moses chayr and of their doctrine and ●n that they as the word Pharisee signifieth did expound the Scripture and that the Sadduces were strict living men that gave much to the poor though they admitting of nothing but the letter of the Scripture denyed the resurrection yet as Authors testifie they were the best of the Jewish Church and did uphold circumcision though as many that pretend to the Church they stood for traditions and had their failings and through unbelief in Christ were a generation of vipers yet that they were quite cut off and degenerated from Abrahams seed by the Law he cannot prove as may appear by Christ Joh. 8.37 39. And therefore John not approving of them upon this account as being Abraham's seed according to the Law makes it clear that John did object both against them for their evil lives and for pretending that they should have Baptism from the pretence that Abraham is their father according to the Law as before said Therefore we stand to our plea that Matth. 3.8 9. is not onely against Infants baptism in the general but also against the very consequence which from Circumcision whereby Abraham is a father according to the Law is pretended to uphold the same And therefore children were not baptized by John as though as Mr. S. sayth p. 47. they were neglected by John as though he could not have got time to attend to baptize them but John did not baptize them because they were not Abraham's seed according to the faith Rom. 4.12 16. Gal. 3.7 9. that is they were not actually believers otherwise John would not have been guilty of such partiality and injustice for John refused none but such and all such whatsoever as in whom there was not the appearance of the fruits of faith and repentance Acts 15.1 2 3 4.

from free grace pretended is most full of darkness And if free grace had been a ground of baptism man could not have been the judge And that God doth require man to do nothing ignorantly or doubting and therefore hath expresly commanded though hypocrites may falsly pretend to submit unto the Rule and in admitting them upon that account man is no offender who we shall baptize even every one that is discipled by teaching And therefore we leaving to act upon the pretence of the Covenant of Free-grace we do not deny children any outward warrantable priviledge that was granted them before Abraham's days in his days or ever was done by Christ or his Apostles in presenting them to God in praying for a blessing for them and to bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord that as soon as ever this secret will of God in his free grace shall be revealed They may according to the command and example of Christ and all his Churches pass the Gospel-Ordinance of Baptism QUESTIONS and ANSWERS concerning the baptizing of Believers onely the manner of the administration of the Ordinance with the reasons that may induce the Magistrate to encourage the preaching thereof in Publike Question 1. WHether is Baptism a Gospel-Ordinance Answer In that ‖ Mat. 28.19 Christ himself is the author of it and did after his † Mat. 28.7 16. resurrection from the dead immediately command it and that all the Saints upon their profession of saith were accordingly baptized Therefore Baptism doth appear to be a Gospel-Ordinance Quest 2. Whether may baptism be called a Seal Answ In that man is judge of baptism and that it is against the wisdom and truth of God to seal to a blank or * Rom. 7.4 5. uncertain condition therefore baptism is no Seal though commonly so called Quest 3. What do you call Baptism if it be not a Seal Answ Baptism is a ‖ Heb. 6.1 2. principle of the foundation of the doctrine of Christ a Gospel-Ordinance the † 1 Pet. 3.21 answer of a good conscience towards God and man and a † 1 Pet. 3.21 figure of salvation Quest 4. What is the end for which baptism was ordained Answ In that Christ commanded to * Mar. 16.15 preach the Gospel to every creature and yet onely to baptize such as are ‖ Mat. 28.19 discipled or are taught the word of God or believed it doth therefore clearly appear that God in Christ did ordain Baptism to this end that Christ might * 2 Cor. 6.16 separate the election of grace by ‖ Mat. 28.19 calling them out of the world into the † Acts 9.19 27. fellowship of the Church and to unite all so called in the profession of saith in their baptism and * Act 9.39 breaking of bread in which they communicate Quest 5. How can you prove that by these words of Christ Go and preach the Gospel to every creature Go and make disciples and baptize them He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved is so to be interpreted * Acts 2.41 compared with 46 47. that none but those that believe are to be baptized Answ Because the Apostles and Church of Christ did thus understand them as by their doctrine and practice doth appear Quest 6. Where have the Apostles taught that none but those that hear and believe should be baptized Answ In that the Apostles have taught that those that are baptized ought to * Acts 2.38 repent be ‖ Act. 2.39 Rev. 18.4 called out of the world have the † 1 Pet. 3.21 answer of a good conscience towards God and man and have declared that * Act. 8.37 unfaithfulness hinders baptism therefore by their doctrine it doth appear that none but such as hear and believe should be baptized Quest 7. And did the Apostles onely baptize believers Answ Yes verily they onely baptized visible professors as when they ‖ Act. 8.12 believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God and the Lord Jesus they were baptized both men and women and when † Act. 10 2 44 48. housholds were baptized the Scripture doth declare that they all † Act. 10 2 44 48. feared God received the † Act. 10 2 44 48. holy Ghost * 1 Cor. 1.16 with chap. 16.15 gave themselves to the ministery of the Word of God † Act. 26 32 34. heard the word of God † Act. 26 32 34. rejoyced in God and † Act. 26 32 34. believed Qu. 8. If this be so then neither children nor unbelievers ought be baptized Answ It 's true indeed for as in Circumcision when the male was onely named the female was excluded so when Christ onely ordained that those that hear and believe should be baptized unbelievers and children must needs be excluded Quest 9. How comes it then to pass that this doctrine of baptism hath not been before revealed Answ Though the doctrine of baptism hath been always professed yet it hath not been generally received for these reasons 1. Because there was ‖ 2 Thess 2.1 2 3. a falling away from the faith whereby all the Ordinances of Christ were perverted and corrupted by the † Rev. 15.8 smoak which was to continue till the Lamb's souldiers should procure the free course of the Gospel 2. The tayl of the beast is to strike down the * Rev. 12.4 third part of the stars even learned men c. not under the powerful means of information which shall walk under the sparkles of their own Consequences 3. Because that though Antichrist before these times hath been revealed as opposing the person and merits of Christ yet the Ordinances are but beginning to be cleared in discovery whereof the Church begins to be restored to the purity of the primitive time of Christ and his Apostles 4. In such a case as this where things are admitted as Infant-baptism being the religion men were brought up in though godly yet it is not questioned till men be put upon it or otherwise by God extraordinarily called for which cause Infant-baptism hath not been much questioned Quest 10. What will become of all the world the unbelievers and children if they be not baptized Answ Christ must be preached to all the ‖ Mark 16.15 Gal. 6.6 world to every Parish even to capable children and unbelievers c. And as they shall have an ear to hear and be † Rev. 18.4 called out of Babylon they ought to be baptized and receive the * Act. 2.42 Lords supper with the gathered Churches of believers Quest 11. How shall we be able to judge believers Answ By the ‖ Joh. 15.8 Mat. 5.16 fruits of their profession or holy conversation and in that they are willing to be united unto and † 1 Joh. 3.14 love the Saints and submit unto the * Mat. 18.17 Act. 2.41 government of Christ under the Gospel Quest 12. But