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A55558 Mr. Powels answer to a late fictitious pamphlet put forth by two leading Quakers, viz. John Vaughton and John Feild in which their account of a discourse between them and him is here rectified : every thing that is material in their said book answered and several notorious lies therein detected to the just shame of the publishers : also good counsel in the conclusion of the whole to such that are the principal leaders of the Quakers ... with an epistolary discourse touching the imputation of sin to Christ ... Powell, Thomas.; Vaughton, John, 1644-1712.; Field, John, 1652-1723. 1676 (1676) Wing P3067B; ESTC R24064 19,612 24

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tell 〈◊〉 they would not go out of the place unless I would dispute the Point ●●n when I should Preach or suffer them to declare their Testimony gainst me to the people And then they would depart I told them I dared not enter into a Disputation on the Lords day and at that time when I should Preach If you will defend your self ●y they we will tarry till you have done Preaching I still alledg'd an conveniency of so doing in respect of the day and then of my inability which without doubt would have been if I after I had Preach'd ●ice had then engaged with all them that were fresh The Assembly ●ing great for a Countrey Assembly I was mov'd with compassion of ●●l and being loth to lose the opportunity of Preaching to them I was ●illing to condescend to any probable way to please my Adversaries and ●●erefore told them that I would discourse the Point on the Monday allowing assoon in the Morning as they would at which all the People ●●uted saying It was fair It was fair yet unto this would not ●●se Men yield unless Articles were subserib'd unto after what man●● the Disputation should be managed and all this on the Lords Day which would have taken up our present opportunity whereas I would not we made any such Proposal to them about disputing with them my ●f had it not been pure Necessity viz. to please the Adversaries ●ut so we might not lose our present opportunity of waiting upon ●●d in his way as we esteem'd but such Roysters were they that ●y would have their own way in spight of our Teeth insomuch that ●y made us who were a great Assembly to desert our Place for could not get them out unless as aforesaid we would have ●ip'd them and Scourg'd them which were the occasion of my taking those words And after we were gone two of those Qua●s got into my Pulpit and there Preach'd only I think they throw'd ●n the Cushion After this I was forc'd by reason of their defaming me to put fort● Paper in defence of my self Entituled A Word to the Wise is ●●ough which I have here Inserted for the Information of such that might not see the Paper alone Since this the Quakers put forth Book against me which is That that I have Answer'd in the ensuing Sheets And thus Reader I 'le assure thee thou hast a true Narrative of the Quakers Proceedings against me which have been so irr● gular boistrous and uncivil that I never knew the like all my days an● could not have believ'd it unless I my self had experienced it and 〈◊〉 withal think that never any one was more troubled with them as m●self during the time and considering all other circumstances I do further declare that the malice of these Men is so much again●● me for I know not what that I fear to go any where by my self th●● have so dogg'd me and follow●d me into all Places and I am but 〈◊〉 young Man newly Arriv'd to the one and twentieth year of my Age and what should be the reason of their so assaulting me as they do tru●● I know not I never medled with their opinions i.e. so as others hav● done never uttered any invective speeches against them always till no● had very charitable thoughts especially of him that is now become 〈◊〉 enemy because I Preach the Truth as it is in Jesus and will not co●form to his ways I come now to the Doctrine of Imputation being the thing in deba●● between the Quakers and my self * Mr. Pen cal●s it A Doctrine of Devils Bellarmine himself after many Disputations about Justification doth yet conclude Tutissimum est fiduciam totam in sola Dei misericordia benignitate reponere It is most safe to put all our confidence in the sole mercy and power of God De Justificat l. 5. c. 7. and that which by them as be●● bran●ed with all the ignominious Epithites and Appellations that th●● could give unto it yet a doctrine so fundamental that I would 〈◊〉 for a world but that I did confide in and upon it lay the whole stress 〈◊〉 my salvation and would to God that Papist Socinians and Quake●● would come to this before it be too late for how many have strenuou●●● argued against the aforesaid doctrine that in the approach of de●●● have chang'd their opinion about it Now denying or gain-saying 〈◊〉 this being an errour of pernicious consequence I shall here consider 〈◊〉 according to my poor abilities This Doctrine of Imputation as I humbly conceive includes a●● signifies two things 1. Our sins reckoned Christs 2. Christs Rig●●teousness reckoned ours That which I shall principally manage is the former viz. Our sins reckoned Christs And that I may briefly and clearly speak to this because 't is for the unknowing in this Point th●● I design this Disoourse take me as followeth and I hope 't is a●cording to Scripture and the Sentiments of the Pious in all Ages That our Lord Jesus did undergo punishment we have a full rel●●●●● ●● thereof in the History of his Life and Death all that I shall ●● in the Defence of this great Truth is this Either Christ died ●ly or unjustly I mean God the Father in punishing his Son Act●● therein either justly or unjustly unjustly who dares to assert justly ●o dares to deny and if God inflicted punishment on his Son just●● then of necessity his Sonmust be a peccant Person one way or other i.e. sinner If he was a sinner it must be either inherently or imputively inherently he was not imputatively he was or else he could it have undergone punishment Christ was accounted a sinner by ticked men but this is not all he was accounted also a sinner by his Fa●●er or else his Father would not have dealt so severely with him as he ●●id why did such a Father deal with such a Son what was the cause ●●at a Person so innocent should suffer as he did Secondly 't was 〈◊〉 not his but ours had it not been for this God had never sent his ●●n in Flesh and then have punished him in that Flesh as he did Christ might thank Sin for all his sufferings and lay all the evils which ●sustained in soul and body at its doors Sin set his Father against him Sin laid the Foundation of all his sorrows Sin brew'd that bitter ●up which he was to drink Sin was the meritorious cause of all the siseries that befel him 1 Pet. 3.18 For Christ also hath once effered for sins so that Christ died not only for an example but for ●ns and that either for his own or for others not for his own I say gain and again which maintains the Purity of our Saviour but for ●hers which doth not impeach his Purity Christ was a Sinner by ●uputation and reputation the latter of which the Quakers will grant ●ut the former they deny both of which Divines do assert viz. Christ the greatest