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A77726 An answer, or confutation of divers errors broached, and maintained by the seven churches of Anabaptists contained in those articles of their confession of faith propounded to the Parliament, and other grosse opinions held by them against the cleare light of the gospell. By Thomas Bakewell. Imprimatur John Downham. Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19. 1646 (1646) Wing B526; Thomason E336_10; ESTC R200810 49,330 53

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whole body of the Congregation but I doubt you meane the execution of it which is to be inflicted not by all but by many 1 Cor. 5.3 2 Cor. 2.6 and so they are to admit of Infidels when they become Christians but those that are already baptized neede not such admittance The three and fortieth article You beleeve that a particular Church must trie their Officers gifts and then they may preach publickely and take upon them the charge of a Pastor but I doubt of it your answer is that when Christ gives ability to any they ought to improve it for their Masters advantage but I say it must be also in that place where their Master sets them or else they doe it for their owne advantage and not for his but you say if they be found false your Churches will not be corrupted by them but I say if children be left fatherlesse and have none to take care of them they will soone be corrupted and to say that you will not be corrupted and yet use no meanes to preserve your selves is but presumption like Peter who said that he would not deny his Master and yet tarried in the High Priests hall so your Church will not be corrupted and yet you take away those that are appointed to keepe you from corruption The sixe and fortieth article you beleeve that none must separate from a Church rightly constituted for corruptions that are in it but if you doe not dissemble you make it an article of your faith to beleeve your selves to be Schismatickes The nine and fortieth article You beleeve that you are bound to yeelde subjection to all civill Lawes made by the King and Parliament and yet you daily oppose Government The two and fiftieth article you beleeve that you have a conscience voyde of offence both towards God and towards man when as you cast off Gods Law in the worke of conversion Article 25 and mans law in Ecclesiasticall things Witnesse your setting up Churches without their authority these be your articles of faith then you saide you would beleeve all that is written by the Prophets and Apostles desiring to disclaime all heresies and opinions which are not after Christ But I charged you upon this promise of your owne and upon your generall promise together with your seven Churches to be as good as your word and not to dissemble in the very articles of your faith but when I had waited the full time appointed and saw no answer come I went to know the cause of it and he told me flatly that he would never write more unto me CHAP. II. Behold greater Abominations the Anabaptists maintained against me That the bodies of men consisting of flesh and bones is their Soules and that they have no other Secondly that the breath of men and beasts is their spirits and that it is immortall and liveth when their bodies are dead Thirdly They hold that in the resurrection the bodies both of men and beasts shall rise againe and their breath shall be infused againe into them TO these things I answer First That man hath two natures the one a Divine or spirituall substance like that of Angels adorned with divine faculties as the Understanding Judgement Reason Will Affection and Conscience the other part of man is humane being made of the foure Elements as all mortall creatures are and what casualties befall a beast may befall a man and man hath no preheminence above a beast for all is vanity Eccle. 3.19 but the soule spirit or heart of a Man that divine thing may be bound in the bundle of life 1 Sam. 25.29 being uncorruptible 1 Pet. 3.4 so then when the corruptible body dies the spirit depart from it and returnes to God that gave it Eccl. 12.7 Therefore when the Scripture calls this divine thing a Spirit distinctly it is for the most part to be understood of those principall faculties of it as the Understanding Reason and Judgement This is the spirit of your mind Ephes 4.23 because the Spirit searcheth all things yea the deepe things of God 1 Cor. 2.10 And when the Scripture distinctly calleth this divine thing the Heart it is to be understood the Conscience If thy heart condemne thee God is greater 1 Joh. 3.2 Davids heart smote him 2 Sam. 24.10 The Law written in the Heart or Conscience Rom. 2.15 And when that divine thing is called the Soule distinctly it is to be understood the Will and all the affections saith Paul We were willing to have parted unto you our owne soules because you were deare unto us 1 Thes 2.8 Hannah powred out her soule before the Lord 1 Sam. 1.15 Yet when that divine thing is called by any of those names it is to be understood the whole inward man although sometimes Spirit signifies the principall ruling faculties and by Soule is meant the Will and Affections that are to be regulated by them and so here is meant the Conscience as an officer in trust to see that this divine order be kept within us yet for substance it is the same thing although declared by severall faculties of it Now I shall prove that this divine thing the soule spirit or heart of man is not the body consisting of flesh and bones first from the immediate causes from whence they came and they differ thus we have fathers of the flesh and we give them reverence but God alone is the father of spirits Heb. 12.9 Numb 16.22.27.16 then although the fathers of our flesh begot our bodies yet saith the Lord all soules are mine Ezek. 18.4 for he formed the spirit of man within him Za●h 12.1 and he gave it Eccles 12.7 then the soule is not the body Secondly the soule and body differ when they returne out of the world then the body returnes to dust from whence it came Gen. 3.19 and the spirit or soule returnes to God that gave it Thirdly when the separation is made the body dyes for it is appointed for all men once to dye Heb. 9.27 We must needes dye all and be as water spilt upon the ground 2 Sam. 14.14 but after death to Judgement When the body is dead the spirit of man goes upward Ecces 3.20 21. to a particular Judgement Then this living soule Gen. 2.7 this incorruptible heart of man goes before the Judge and receives either the sentence of absolution or of condemnation while the body is dead and at the resurrection when the bodies of all are raised and made capable to receive their finall estate then they shall be brought before the Judge to have the sentence passed upon them for it then if the soule can live and receive judgement when the body is dead then the soule is not the body Fourthly the body lives no longer then the soule is in it for when the soule of the childe was gone the body lay dead but when the soule came into him againe the Prophet said see thy sonne liveth 1 King 17.20 21 22 23. but to
this they say the childes sicknesse was so sore that there was no breath left in him ver 15. therefore say they it was not the soule but breath returned I answer 〈◊〉 is plaine that the soule was gone and came againe at the prayer of the Prop●●●● 〈◊〉 it is said the breath was gone which was the signe that the soule was gone that they might the better beleeve it but that breath being gone returned not againe but vanished but the soule returning and acting in the childe caused new breath which was never in the childe before therefore the soule is not the body Fifthly If man can kill the body and cannot kill the soule then the soule is not the body but Christ saith feare not them that can kill the body and cannot kill the soule Math. 10.28 then the soule is not the body But they say that Joshuah killed all the soules in Mackedah and in Libnah and all the soules in Lacish Eglon and in Hebron Josh 10.30.32.35.37 Therefore the soule may be killed and every living thing hath a soule Job 12.10 which may be killed or dye I answer these places are thus to be understood the vitall or principall part of humane life was stone dead for their better encouragement against the rest of their enemies which should be killed in like manner and should never trouble them more when their vitalls or humane life is stone dead But they say our soule is bowed downe to the dust Psal 44.25 therefore the soule must turne to dust and be buried in the grave for saith David Thou wilt not leave my soule in grave Psal 16.10 I answer it was but Davids vitalls of humane life was almost gone and must returne to dust and be buried in the grave As the vitalls and spirit of a beast goes downeward so must his Eccles 3.21 onely the spirit or vitalls of a beast shall abide there but our vitalls of the body shall be raised againe and not left in the grave for ever but the soule that divine thing may be in glory when the body lyes dead As the soules of Christ and the theife were in Paradise when their bodies were dead on the Crosse Luke 22.43 the soules of Abraham Isaach and Iacob were living when their bodyes were dead Math. 22.32 and the soules of them that are slaine for the word of God are in white robes of glory and crie how long wilt thou not avenge our bloud on them that dwell on the earth Revel 6.9 10 11. But they say those soules is meant their bloud cried as Abels bloud did Gen. 4. I answer Cains sinne in spilling that bloud cried for vengeance againe these soules that crie speake of their bloud saying our bloud but if the bloud had cried it would have said how long will it be ere thou avenge me and they are called soules but their bloud was not their soules unlesse when a man hath lost some bloud they affirme that he hath lost some part of his soule or so many drops so many soules then if the soule can live when the body is ●●aine then the soule is not the body But then they say Jacob begot so many soules of such a wife and so many soules went downe into Egypt G●n 46.22.25 26 27. I answer those that went to Egypt are called soules from the better and more noble part of man that divine thing in them but Jacob begot but the vitals of humane life and no more as I shewed before being onely a father of their flesh but God alone is the father of spirits thus you see how they differ in their originall cause or discent and also unto what they returne Now I shall shew that the soule is not the body by differences betwixt them while they remaine together First the body is the carkase Numb 14.29.33 1 King 13.24 25. but the soule is the hidden man of the heart 1 Pet. 3 4. his flesh upon him shall be in paine and his soule within him shall mourne Job 14.22 with my spirit within me will I seeke thee early Isa 26.9 O my soule why art thou so disquieted within me my soule is cast downe within me Psal 42.5.6.11 and Paul puts both these together saying though our outward man perish yet the inward man is renued daily 2 Cor. 4.16 so then if the body be the carkase and the soule be some divine thing in that carkase as you see both these propositions are proved then the soule is not the body but some divine thing that is within it Secondly while the soule and body are together the soule may be wounded and greived when the body hath no hurt nor is in danger of any hurt They were pricked at the heart and cut to the heart Acts 2.37.7.54 and the Soule of Christ was sorrowfull before any hurt came to his body Math. 26.38 and false Prophets slay the soules of some with lyes Ezek. 13.18 19. Her soule was vexed within her 2 King 4.27 when her body had no hurt A wounded spirit who can beare Prov. 18.14 then the soule is not the body Thirdly the body may be afflicted when the soule is not for in affliction joy aboundeth They rejoyced that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for his name Acts. 4. they sung psalmes in prisons Acts. 16. therefore the soule is not the body Fourthly the soule and body may be distinguished about holy duties both are required for saith Paul glorifying God in your bodies and soules for they are his 1 Cor. 6.20 but saith the Lord They sit before thee and heare thy words as my people when their hearts are gone after their covetousnesse Ezek. 33.31 They draw neare with their lips when their heart is farre from me Math. 15.8 so then you see the soule may be wanting in holy duties when the body is present therefore the soule is not the body Fifthly the soule may have sweete intercourse with God when the body is not active in it Hannah prayed when her lips did not move and Moses prayed acceptably when he saide nothing Exod. 14.15 and so did Nehemiah Chap. 2 14. God hath promised to heare the desires of the heart Psal 37.4.10.17 When bodily exercise profiteth little 1 Tim. 4.8 then the body is not the soule Lastly to affirme that the body is the soule will cause many absurdities for then to seeke the Lord with all the heart and soule is but to bring their carkases to the ordinances and when God opened Lyd●a's heart it was to open her carkase And when the Lord gives a new heart it is to give a new carkase and a broken heart is a broken carkase and a cleane heart is a cleane carkase and the renting of the heart is the renting 〈◊〉 the carkase and when the soule of Jonathan was knit to the soule of David if he body and soule were the same thing it seemes their bodies were tyed together which were miserable folly for any man to thinke then I hope this may