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A87552 Allotrioepiskopos, the busie bishop. Or The visitor visited. By way of answer to a very feeble pamphlet lately published by Mr J.G. called Sion Colledge visited, in which answer, his cavils against the ministers of London for witnessing against his errours touching the holy Scriptures, and the power of man to good supernaturall, are answered, and the impertinency of his quotations out of the fathers, Martin Bucer, and Mr Ball are manifested. / By William Jenkyn minister of the Word of God at Christ-Church London. Jenkyn, William, 1613-1685. 1648 (1648) Wing J632; Thomason E434_4; ESTC R202641 59,976 70

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when people are suffered to do no more then the Praelates will then when they are suffered to do as much as themselves will The speaking of the whole truth would have laid your way as low as it raiseth praelacy ●igh 3. What 〈◊〉 informed you of such a decay of the power of religion in all the reformed Churches as that England did so much exceed them I blesse God for what I have seen in Exgland and I magnifie his name for what I have read and heard from other reformed Churches If we went before them in some things haply they might have the precedency in other I suppose it is with Churches as with Christians God variously dispenseth his graces he bestows upon some an eminency in one upon others in another haply they might hold forth a clearer torch to discover Antichrist then we and peradventure it might burn hotter then ours And its likely on the other side that for practicals many of ours at home might excell them and our walkings might be more even I have observed sometimes that a man who followeth a torch walks more steadily and not in so much danger of stumbling as he who carrieth it Sir I should not much contend about your commendation of the power of religion under prelacy did I but see you so to recollect the former power of Religion as to be humbled for the present weaknesse of it and to resolve that weaknesse into its proper cause I mean a toleration of all ungodlinesse and abominable opinions 4. You that commend prelacy as being blest with the power of Religion I pray tell me whether was this power of religion upheld and preserved by any goodnesse in the pralaticall government or did God only make it an occasion to drive his people closer to himself by their persecutions and unquietnesse in outward respects and haply by sinfull impositions If the latter be true that praelacie only were such an accidentall occasion of the power of religion you might as well for ought I know have commended the greatest enemies of the Church and have commended the fitnesse of Potiphars house for Joseph but why do you compare Praelacie to a governmnt that God hath blessed even when it hath been in a manner under persecution and savoured only of Ecclesiasticall mildnesse not medling with the purse or the body but tending to recover the soul and oppose sin If the former be true that the power of religion was from the goodnesse of praelacy as its cause you have then quite undone Independency which is never like by Anarchy the quite contrary to Pralacy to produce the same effect of the power of religion For that your horrid expression that the only successe of the Presbyteriall government is to snipp off forward branches I told you even now who the traveller was that fild you with this information A falsehood ordinarily palpable maketh its refutation easy but when in falsity it is astonishing the hearer cannot but a while suspend his reply It fared thus with me in reviewing this passage Is it possible thought I that a man who pretends not only to be a Christian but a Minister should thus far throw off both but I lookt upon you as the non-such of your way and so I recollected my thoughts into the way of an answer I would know who are the forward branches that the sheers of Presbytery snipp off Are they fruitfull branches or are they not rather suckers who draw away that nourishment from others which might make them fruitfull and convert it into thriving in heresies in Atheisme and unholy opinions If so I see no reason but the throwing away the sheers would be the overthrowing of the plant Sion Col. visit p. 6. Ans An evill eye upon the Parliament is no dissenting character of the Genius of the Ministers of London Me thinkes these words are hardly sence but I have taken you tripping so often that I shall not now be rigid Your meaning is The London Ministers have an evill eye upon the Parliament The Parliament hath suffered with grief I speak it ever since Sectaries would needs be their advocates It was better with them when you wrote your Theomachia Accuse not the Ministers of an evill eye toward the Parliament If your eyes be good toward them I am sure they are lately cured The Reader knows by what eye salve What remains of this weak Pamphlet consists of nothing but three or four prophanations of Scripture Sion Col visit p. 26. and some four or five nauseous commendations of the Authour and book For the former you say that the reason why your pen moved against its accusers rather then your fellow-hereticks was because Christ saith the stones would cry if the honour of Christ should not be vindicated Answ and you say you were loth that the stones and tiles should take this honour from you There 's not an errour transcribed out of your books but tends to the high dishonour of Christ the deniall of his Scriptures of his grace and for your persisting in these The stones indeed might speak though not for you but against you 'T is a miracle the stones and tiles of the houses do not speak about the ears of one so prophane and erroneous I bear my charge upon my shoulder with more then patience Sion Col. visit p 26. even with joy I admire more the patience of God in forbearing to punish you Ans then yours in bearing your panishment and let me hear of sorrow for sin before you tell m● again of joy in your sorrows The two theeves had not suffered death Sion Col. visited p ●● but to colour over the crucifying of Christ and no testimony had been given at this time against the heresies of the other had not the 52. judged it expedient that my name should be blasted I doubt whether the comparison between your self and Christ Anws savours not of blasphemous arrogancy A parallel between your fellow-heretickes who have rob'd God of his glory and theeves would have held good had it been between your self and them it would have been better but could you make it between your self and the penitent thief it would be best of all I wish that what you write in the end of your book among the erra●● could admit of this charitable construction of your repentance The words are these For Excusabilis you desire the Reader to read Inexcusabilis however I shall add this the truest sentence in all your book is this which you place among your errours ⁂ FINIS