ever hitherto done to advance their own wicked Intendments and rather then fail of them to raise a more desperate Rebellion in England instead of applying themselves vigorously as they were in Duty Honor and Conscience bound to assist his Majesty to suppress the other in Ireland and let their Pretences be never so glorious for the Preservation of the Reformed Religion and Interest yet it is evident that even from the very first Eruption of this Rebellion they had a Design to make their own Terms with the King and to oblige him under the Pretence of abandoning Evil Counsellors to devolve the intire Trust of the whole Nation and consequently his Crown and Dignity into their Hands and to leave him only the vain shaddow of Sovereignty and Majesty and unless he would Consent to this they must as they say be obliged to take other Measures for the fecuring themselves from such mischievous Councils and Designs as have lately been in Practice and Agitation against them and a little time discovered what ways those were for in Reality this was no new Design the crucifying Remonstrance of the State of the Kingdom had been long hewing and these were but some Chips of that Block only they were wanting a fit Occasion and this offering it self they were resolved to lay fast hold upon it But in regard though they had sorely shaken and disabled the third Estate of the Lords Spiritual in Parliament by the repeated Batteries of Impeachments and Bills to take away their Voices yet there was a great Number of the Lords Temporal whose unstained Loyalty and Fidelity to the Crown and Royal Interest might prove dangerously Obstructive to their wicked Intentions they were resolved to attempt to deceive as many of them as they could by their popular Rhetorick upon this Topique of the danger of evil Counsels and Counsellors and if any proved refractory or had Constitutions too strongly amuletted with Loyalty against this insinuating Poison they had other more severe Methods of purging the Body Politick and Representative to be made use of upon Occasion as we shall see hereafter Upon this Subject of evil Councils and Counsellors Mr. Pym the great Oracle of the Faction took Occasion at this last Conference to display his Talent in these Terms HE said he was to speak touching the ill Councils Mr. Pym's Speech at the Conference concerning ill Councils November 10. which he laid down in these several Steps 1 First That the Dangers which come to the State by ill Councils are the most pernitious of all others and since it is usual to compare Politick Bodies with the Natural the Natural Body is in danger divers Wayes either by outward Violence and that may be foreseen and prevented or else by less appearing Maladies which grow upon the Body by Distempers of the Air immoderate Exercise Diet c. and when the Causes of the Disease are clear the Remedy is easily applied but Diseases which proceed from the inward Parts as the Liver the Heart or the Brains the more noble Parts it is a hard thing to apply Cure to such Diseases Ill Councels they are of that Nature for the Mischiefs that come by evil Councel corrupt the Vital Parts and overthrow the Publick Government 2 * If this had been applied to himself and his Faction he never spoke more truth in his whole life The second Step is That there have been lately and still are ill Councils in this Kingdom and about the King 1 That there hath been lately you will not doubt when the main Course of the Government hath been so imployed as Popery thereby hath been maintained the Laws subverted and no distinguishing between Justice and Injustice and that there is still reason to doubt is apparent by the Courses taken to advance mischievous Designs but that his Majesties Wisdom and Goodness kept them from the Heart though they were not kept out of the Court so most Principal and mischievous Designs have been practised by such as had near Access unto his Majesty though not to his Heart and the Apologists and Promoters of ill Counsels are still preferred 3 The third Step is That the ill Counsels of this Time are in their own Nature more mischievous and more dangerous then the ill Counsels of former Times former Counsels have been to please Kings in their Vices * A remarkable Testimony from an Enemy of the King's Innocence from which our King is free and sometimes for racking of the Prerogative if it had gone no further it had brought many Miseries but not Ruine and Destruction but the ill Counsels of this Time are destructive to Religion and Laws by altering them both therefore more Mischievous in their own Nature then those of former Times 4 The fourth Step is That these ill Counsels have proceeded from a Spirit and Inclination to Popery and have had a Dependance on Popery and all of them tend to it the Religion of the Papists is a Religion incompatible with any other Religion destructive to all others and doth not indure any thing that opposeth it whosoever doth withstand their Religion if they have Power they bring them to Ruin There are other Religions that are not right but not so destructive as Popery is for the Principles of Popery are destructive to all States and Persons that oppose it with the Progress of this mischievous Councel they provide Counsellors fit Instruments and Organs that may execute their own Designs and to turn all Councils to their own Ends and you find that now in Ireland that those Designs that have been upon all the Three Kingdoms do end in a War for the maintenance of Popery in Ireland and would do the like here if they were able they are so intentive to turn all to their own Advantage 5 The fifth Step That unless these ill Councils be changed as long as they continue it is impossible that any Assistance Aid or Advice that the Parliament can take to reform will be effectual for the Publick Orders and Laws are but dead if not put in Execution those that are the Instruments of State they put things into Action but if acted by Evil Men and while these Counsels are on foot we can expect no good it is like a Disease that turns Nutritives into Poyson 6 The sixth Step is That this is the most proper time to desire of his Majesty the Alteration and Change of the evil Counsellors because the Common-Wealth is brought into Distemper by them and so exhausted that we can indure no longer Another Reason why we cannot admit of them is to shew our Love and Fidelity to the King in great and extraordinary Contributions and Aids when God doth imploy his Servants he doth give some Promise to rouse up their Spirits and we have reason now to expect the King's Grace in great abundance this is the time wherein the Subject is to save the Kingdom of Ireland with the hazard of their Lives and Fortunes And
according to the Command thereof upon due and convenient notice thereof given to him at the Charge of the Party or Parties who requireth or procureth such Writ or Writs and upon Security by his or their own Bond or Bonds given to pay the Charge of carrying back the Prisoner or Prisoners if he or they shall be commanded by the Court to which he or they shall be brought as in like Cases has been used such Charges of bringing up and carrying back the Prisoner or Prisoners to be always ordered by the Court if any Difference shall arise there about bringing or cause to be brought the Body or Bodies of the said Party or Parties so committed or restrained unto and before the Judges and Justices of the said Court from whence the same Writ or Writs shall issue in open Court and shall then likewise certify the true Cause of such his or their Deteinors or Imprisonment and thereupon the Court after such Return made and delivered in open Court shall proceed to examine and determine whether the Cause of such Commitment appearing upon the said Return be just and legal or not and shall thereupon do what to Justice shall appertain either by Delivering Bailing or remanding the Prisoner or Prisoners 7. Quest Of what Force is an Act of State or Proclamation in this Kingdom to bind the Liberty Goods Possessions or Inheritance of the Natives thereof whether they or any of them can alter the Common Law or the Infringers of them loose their Goods Chattels or Leases or forfeit the same by Infringing any such Act of State Proclamation or both And what punishment do the sworn Judges of the Law that are Privy Councellors incur that Vote for such Acts and Execution thereof Declarat An Act of State or Proclamation in this Kingdom cannot bind the Liberty Inheritance Possession or Goods of the Subjects of the said Kingdom nor alter the Common Law and the Infringers of any such Act of State or Proclamation ought not to forfeit Lands Leases Goods or Chattels for the infringing of any such Act of State or Proclamation and the Judges of the Law who do vote for such Acts of State or Proclamation are punishable as Breakers and Violators of their Oaths of Judges 8. Quest Are the Subjects of this Kingdom subject to the Martial Law And whether any man in the time of Peace no Enemy being in the Field with Banners displayed can be Sentenced to death If so by whom and in what Cases If not What Punishments do they incur that in time of Peace execute Martial Law Declarat No Subject of this Kingdom ought to be Sentenced to Death or Executed by Marshal Law in time of Peace and if any Subject be so Sentenced or Executed by Marshal Law in time of Peace the Authors and Actors of any such Sentence or Execution are punishable by the Law of the Land for their so doing as Doers of their own Wrong and contrary to the said Law of the Land 9. Quest Whether Volantary Oaths taken freely before Arbitrators for Affirmance or Disaffirmance of any thing or for the true performance of any thing be punishable in the Castle-Chamber or any other Court and why and wherefore Declarat No Man ought to be punished in the Castle-Chamber or any other Court for taking a Voluntary Oath before Arbitrators for affirmance or disaffirmance of any Thing or the true Performance of any thing in Civil Causes nor are the Arbitrators before such Voluntary Oath shall be taken Punishble 10. Quest Why and by what Law or by what Rule of Policy is it that none is admitted to Reducement of Fines and other Penalty in the Castle-Chamber or Council Table untill he confess the Offence for which he is Censured when as Revera he might be innocent thereof tho suborned Proofs or Circumstance might induce a Censure Declarat By the Laws and Statutes of the Realm no Man is bound or ought to be compelled to acknowledg the Offence laid to his Charge or the justness of any Censure past against him in the Castle-Chamber or at the Council Table nor ought to be deteined in Prison or abridged of his Liberty or the Reducement of his Fine stayed or delayed until he doth acknowledg such Offence or the justness of such Censure And it is further declared That no such inforced or wrested Confession or Acknowledgment can or ought to debar or hinder any Subject from his Bill of Reversal or Review of any Sentence or Decree past or conceived against him in the Castle-Chamber or in any other Court 11. Quest Whether the Judges of the Kings-Bench or any other Judges of Goal-Delivery or of any other Court and by what Law do or can deny the Copies of Indictments of Felony or Treason to the Parties accused contrary to the Law Declarat The Judges of the Kings-Bench or Justices of Goal-Delivery or the Judges of any other Court ought not to deny Copies of Indictments of Felony or Treason to the Parties indicted 12. Quest What Power have the Barons of the Court of Exchequer to raise the Respite of Homage arbitrarily to what Rate they please to what Value they may raise it by what Law they distinguish between the Respit of Homage upon the diversity of the true value of the Fees when as Escuage is the same for great and small Fees and are apportionable by Parliament Declarat The Barons of the Exchequer ought to raise the Respite of Homage above the usual Rates appearing in and by the Course and Precedents of the Court continued until the year of our Lord God 1637 and the raising thereof since that time was Arbitrary and against the Law And the Barons of the Exchequer ought not to distinguish between the Respite of Homage upon any diversity of the true values of the Knight's Fees 13. Quest Whether it be Censurable in the Subjects of this Kingdom to repair into England to appeal to his Majesty for Redress of Injuries or for other Lawful Occasions If so for why and in what Condition of Persons and by what Law Declarat The Subjects of this Kingdom may lawfully repair into England to appeal to his Majesty for Redress of Injuries and for other their Lawful Occasions and for their so doing ought not to be punished or questioned upon the Statute of 5 R. 2. nor by any other Law or Statute of Force in this Kingdom eminent Officers and Ministers of State Commanders and Soldiers of his Majesties Army the Judges and Ministers of his Majesties Courts of Justice and of his Highness Revenue and Customs whose Attendance is necessarily requisite by the Laws and Statutes of the Realm only excepted 14. Quest Whether Deans or other Dignitaries of Cathedral Churches be properly and de Mero jure Donative by the King and not Elective or Collative If so Why and by what Law And whether the Confirmation of a Dean de Facto of the Bishops Grant be good or valid in Law and no If not by what Law
of his Throne against the Common-wealth by destroying the principles of Safety and Prosperity Other Treasons are against the Rule of the Law this is against the being of the Law It is the Law that unites the King and his People and the Author of this Treason hath endeavoured to dissolve that Vnion even to break the mutual irreversal indissoluble band of Protection and Allegiance whereby they are and I hope ever will be bound together If this Treason had taken effect our Souls had been inthralled to the Spiritual Tyranny of Sathan our Consciences to the Ecclesiastical Tyranny of the Pope our Lives our Persons and Estates to the Civil Tyranny of an Arbitrary unlimited confused Government Treason in the least degree is an odious and a horrid Crime other Treasons are particular if a Fort be betrayed or an Army or any other Treasonable fact committed the Kingdom may out-live any of these this Treason would have dissolved the frame and being of the Common-wealth it is an Vniversal a Catholick Treason the venom and malignity of all other Treasons are abstracted digested sublimated into this The Law of this Kingdom makes the King to be the Fountain of Justice of Peace of Protection therefore we say the Kings Courts the Kings Judges the Kings Laws The Royal Power and Majesty shines upon us in every publick blessing and benefit we enjoy but the Author of this Treason would make him the Fountain of Injustice of Confusion of publick misery and calamity The Gentiles by the light of Nature had some obscure apprehensions of the Deity of which they made this expression that he was Deus optimus maximus and infinite goodness and an insinite greatness All Soveraign Princes have some Characters of Divinity imprinted on them they are set up in their Dominions to be Optimi Maximi that they should exercise a goodness proportionable to their greatness That Law term Laesa Majestas whereby they express that which we call Treason was never more thorowly fulfilled then now there cannot be a greater laesion or diminution of Majestie then to bereave a King of the glory of his goodness It is goodness My Lords that can produce not onely to his People but likewise to himself Honour and Happiness There are Principalities Thrones and Dominions amongst the Devils greatness enough but being uncapable of Goodness they are made uncapable both of Honour and Happiness The Lawes of this Kingdom have invested the Royal Crown with Power sufficient for the manifestation of his Goodness and of his Greatness if more be required it is like to have no other Effects but Poverty Weakness and Misery whereof of late we have had very woful Experience It is far from the Commons to desire any abridgment of those great Prerogatives which belong to the King they know that their own Liberty and Peace are preserved and secured by his Prerogative and they will alwayes be ready to Support and Supply his Majesty with their Lives and Fortunes for the maintenance of his Just and Lawful Power This My Lords is in all our Thoughts in our Prayers and I hope will be so manifested in our Endeavours that if the Proceedings of this Parliament be not interrupted as others have been the King may within a few Moneths be put into a clear way of as much Greatness Plenty and Glory as any of his Royal Ancestors have enjoyed A King and his People make one Body the Inferiour Parts confer Nourishment and Strength the Superiour Sense and Motion If there be an interruption of this necessary intercourse of blood and spirits the whole Body must needs be subject to decay and distemper therefore Obstructions are first to be removed before Restoratives can be applyed This My Lord is the end of this Accusation whereby the Commons seek to remove this Person whom they conceive to have been a great cause of the Obstructions betwixt his Majesty and his People for the Effecting whereof they have Commanded me to desire your Lordships that their Proceedings against him may be put into as speedy a way of dispatch as the Courses of Parliament will allow First That he may be called to answer and they may have liberty to Reply That there may be a quick and secret examination of Witnesses and they may from time to time be acquainted with the Depositions that so when the Cause shall be ripe for Judgment they may collect the several Examinations and represent to your Lordships in one entire Body the state of the Proofs as now by me they have presented to your the state of the Charge Of which Mr. Pym having given an account to the House had the Thanks of the House returned for his well delivery of the Charge against the Earl of Strafford After this Impeachment was Read Earl of Strafford sent to the Tower the Earl was sent for to the House of Lords and acquainted with the Order of their Lordships for his Commitment to the Tower upon which occasion he made a most Moving and Eloquent Speech but I have not been able to retrieve it the Journal where it is Entred being according to an Act of Parliament after the Restauration of King Charles the Second wholly obliterated The Earl being thus Committed Friday Nov. 27. he Petitioned the Lords to have Counsel assigned him which was allowed and Mr. Richard Lane the Prince's Attorney Mr. Recorder of London Mr. Jo. Lightfoot Mr. Hugh Windham Serjeant Rolles Mr. Platt and Mr. Geo. Love were appointed to be his Counsel Upon the 30 of November a Conference was between a Committee of the Two Houses concerning the Examination of Witnesses and other things preparatory to the Trial of the Earl Monday Novemb. 30. where the Lords agreed That such Members of the House of Commons as they shall appoint shall be present at the Examination of Witnesses and the Lords who were appointed to take the Examination of the Witnesses were Earl of Bath Earl of Bedford Earl of Hartford Earl of Essex Lord Wharton Lord Kimbolton Lord Brook Lord Roberts Lord Savile Thursday Dec. 3. Committee to Examine Evidence an Oath of Secrecy administred Lord Viscount Say and Seal who were impowered to give an Oath to the Attendants Witnesses and the Commons who were to be present of Secresie till the publication of the Evidence The Commoners chosen by their House to be present at this Examination were Mr. Selden Mr. Dutton Mr. Crew Sir Peter Hayman Mr. Grimston Commons to be present at the Examination their Protestation Sir Henry Anderson Sir Nevil Pool Sir Tho. Barrington who were all required to declare That by their Duty they owe to this House they are obliged to keep all those Examinations secret who accordingly did every one make an open protestation that they would The Earl also Petitioned to be heard at the time of the preparatory Examinations but was denied Among the Rest of the Witnesses Examined against the Earl Sir David Fowles was one who at the same
Impeachment of Treason from the Honourable House of Commons Were not that in the Case my Lords it would not press so heavy and sore upon me as now it doth having the Authority and Power of their Names upon if Otherwise my Lords the Innocency and the Clearness of my own heart from so Foul a Crime is such that I must with Modesty say if I had no other sin to answer for it would be easily born My Lords as I went along Article by Article These Gentlemen were pleased to say They were no Treasons in themselves but Conducing to the Proof of Treason and most of the Articles being gone over they come to the Point at last And hence my Lords I have all along watched to see if that I could find that Poysoned Arrow that should Invenome all the rest that Deadly Cup of Wine that should intoxicate a few alledged Inconveniences and Misdemeanors to run them up to High Treason My Lords I confess it seems very strange to me that there being a special difference between Misdemeanors and between Felonies and Treasons How is it possible that ever Misdemeanors should make Felonies or a hundred Felonies make a Treason Or that Misdemeanors should be made Accessaries to Treason where there is not a Principal in the Case No Treason I hope shall be found in me nor in any thing I hear to be charged under favour and not waved They say well That if a man be taken threatning of a man to kill him Conspiring his death and with a Bloody Knife in his hand these be great Arguments to convince a man of Murder But then under favour the man must be killed for if the man be not killed the murder is nothing So all these things that they would make conduce to Treason unless something be Treasonable under favour they cannot be applyed to Treason My Lords I have learnt that in this Case which I did not know before that there be Treasons of two kinds there be Statute-Treasons there be Treasons at Common-Law or Treasons Constructive and Abritrary My Lords These Constructive Treasons have been strangers in this Common-wealth a great while and I trust shall be still by your Lordships Wisdom and Justice But as for Treasons in the Statute I do with all gladness and humility acknowledge your Lordships to be my Judges and none but you under favour can be my Judges His Majesty is above it the King Condemns no Man the great operation of His Scepter is Mercy His Justice is dispensed by His Ministry so He is no Judge in the Case with Reverence be it spoken and likewise no Commoner can be Judge in the Case of Life and Death under favour in regard he is of another Body So that my Lords I do acknowledge entirely you are my Judges and do with all chearfulness in the World submit my self unto you thinking that I have great cause to give God thanks that I have you for my Judges and God be praised it is so and Celebrated be the Wisdom of our Ancestors that have so ordained it My Lords I shall observe these Rules First I shall as I hope clear my self of Statute Treason and then shall come to Constructive Treason or Treason at the Common-Law The first point they Charge me withal of Treason is upon the Fifteenth Article Wherein nevertheless before I come to Answer the particulars I must humbly inform your Lordships that in that Article two of the most material Charges are waved in the first part that piece of the Charge that sounds so high concerning a Miscarriage in me in Levying Money upon the Town of Baltemore Bandenbridge Talow of that I hear nothing and I shall mention it only thus farr humbly to remember your Lordships that in that particular I trust I have spoken nothing that should merit less belief of your Lordships For my part it is far from me to put you upon any prejudice by any means whatsoever I look onely to the preserving of my self if it may be without prejudice and hurt to any living Soul Then they likewise wave another piece of the Charge and that is that I should by force of Arms dispossess divers persons in the Territory of Idengh and well they may for in truth there is nothing at all of it that I am to Answer it being wholly done by the Order of Chancery and I having no more to do with it than any man that hears it the Matter that stays with me in this Article is the alleadged Warrant to Mr. Savill Serjeant at Arms and the Execution of it for that I shall humbly beseech your Lordships I may mind you with all humility that that Warrant is not shewed and I do think that my Lords the Judges do in the Tryals before them observe that Deeds are to prove themselves in ordinary Tryals betwixt Men and Men Now how much more in a Tryal for life and which is more than that though my Misfortune will have me to own it in the Tryal of a Peer The Witnesses my Lords say They have seen such a Warrant But no Witness sayes he knows it and will Swear it to be my Hand and Seal or that I set my Hand or Seal to it for it may be Counterfeited for any thing they know For Mr. Savill upon Oath I thought under Favour he ought not to be admitted against me for he Swears directly to justifie himself for if there be no such Warrant he is answerable for the Fact not I. But my Lords admit there were such a Warrant I humbly conceive I gave your Lordships a very clear and full Answer to it I shewed you and proved it as I conceive that the Sessing of Soldiers hath been a Coercive means used in Ireland always to enforce obedience to the King's Authority I proved it to have been used to fetch in the King's Rents of all kinds Contributions Compositions and Exchequer Rents I proved it to have been used to bring in Offenders and Rebels and as my Lord Ranalagh deposes for any Unjustifiable Act. Sir Arthur Terringham for a small Debt which appears not to be the King's Debt My Lords nothing at all is proved against it but Negatively the Witnesses say they did not know such a thing they had not heard the like and I think none of your Lordships had before this Cause and yet that thing might be too And my Lords I beseech your Lordships How should it be not Treason to Assess Soldiers for the King's Debts and yet the Assessing of Soldiers on the Contempt of the King's Authority should be Treason for certainly the King's Authority is of far more Dignity and more respect is to be had to it then the getting of a few poor Debts and why it should be Treason in one Case and not in another methinks it is very strange My Lords in the next place I conceive not in that any Construction this can be said to be a Levying of War against the King and his
for though it cost him his life he that is in possession thinks it as well worth the keeping John Sparhank in King Henry the Fourth's time meeting two men upon the way amongst other talk said That the King was no rightful King but the Earl of March and that the Pope would grant Indulgencies to all that could assist the Earl's Title and that within half a year there would be no Liveries nor Cognizances of the King that the King had not kept promise with the People but had laid Taxes upon them In Easter-Term in the third year of Henry the Fourth in the Kings Bench Rot. 12. this adjudged Treason this denying the Title with Motives though not implyedly of Action against it adjudged Treason this is a compassing the Kings death How this was a compassing of the Kings Death is declared in the Reasons of the Judgment that the words were spoken with an intent to withdraw the affections of the people from the King and to excite them against him that in the end they might rise up against him in mortem destructionem of the King My Lords in this Judgment and others which I shall cite to your Lordships it appears that it is a compassing the Kings death by Words to endeavour to draw the Peoples hearts from the King to set discord between the King and them whereby the People should leave the King should rise up against him to the death and destruction of the King The Cases that I shall cite prove not only that it is Treason but what is sufficient Evidence to make this good Upon a Commission held the 18th year of Ed. 4. in Kent before the Marquess of Dorset and others an Indictment was preferred against John Awater of High-Treason in the Form before-mentioned for Words which are entred in the Indictment Sub hac forma That he had been servant to the Earl of Warwick that though he were dead the Earl of Oxford was alive and should have the Government of part of that Country That Edward whom you call King of England was a false Man and had by Art and Subtilty slain the Earl of Warwick and the Duke of Clare his Brother without any cause who before had been both of them attainted of High-Treason My Lords This Indictment was Returned into the Kings-Bench in Trinity Term in the Eighteenth year of Edward the Fourth and in Easter-Term the Two and twentieth of Edward the Fourth he was outlawed by the stay of the outlawry so long as it seems the Judges had well advised before whether it were Treason or not At the same Session Thomas Heber was Indicted of Treason for these words That the last Parliament was the most simple and insufficient Parliament that ever had been in England That the King was gone to live in Kent because that for the present he had not the love of the Citizens of London nor should he have it for the future That if the Bishop of Bath and Wells were dead the Archbishop of Canterbury being Cardinal of England would immediately lose his head This Indictment was returned into the Kings-Bench in Trinity-Term in the 18th year of Edward the 4th afterwards there came a Privy-Seal to the Judge to respit the Proceedings which as it should seem was to the intent the Judges might advise of the Case for afterwards he is outlawed of High-Treason upon this Indictment These words are thought sufficient evidence to prove these several Indictments that they were spoken to withdraw the Peoples Affections from the King to excite them against him to cause Risings against him by the People in mortem destructionem of the King Your Lordships are pleased to consider That in all these Cases the Treason was for words only words by private Persons and in a more private manner but once spoken and no more only amongst the People to excite them against the King My Lords here are Words Counsels more then Words and Actions too not only to disaffect the people to the King but the King likewise towards the People not once but often not in private but in places most Publick not by a private person but by a Counsellor of State a Lord-Lieutenant a Lord-President a Lord-Deputy of Ireland 1. To His Majesty that the Parliament had denyed to supply Him a Slander upon all the Commons of England in their Affections to the King and Kingdom in refusing to yield timely supply for the necessities of the King and Kingdom 2. From thence that the King was loose and absolved from Rules of Government and was to do every thing that Power would admit My Lords more cannot be said they cannot be aggravated whatever I should say would be in Diminution 3. Thence you have an Army in Ireland you may employ to reduce this Kingdom To Counsel a King not to Love His People is very Unnatural it goes higher to hate them to Malice them in his heart the highest expressions of Malice to destroy them by War These Coals they were cast upon his Majesty they were blown they could not kindle in that Breast Thence my Lords having done the utmost to the King he goes to the people At York the Country being met together for Justice at the Open Assises upon the Bench he tells them speaking of the Justices of the Peace that they were all for Law nothing but Law but they should find that the Kings Little Finger should be heavier then the Loyns of the Law as they shall find My Lords Who speaks this to the People a Privy-Counsellor this must be either to traduce His Majesty to the People as spoken from him or from himself who was Lord-Lieutenant of the County and President intrusted with the Forces and Justice of those parts that he would Employ both this way Add my Lords to his Words there the Exercising of an Arbitrary and Vast Jurisdiction before he had so much as Instructions or Colour of Warrant Thence we carry him into Ireland there he Represented by his place the Sacred Person of his Majesty First There at Dublin the Principal City of that Kingdom whither the Subjects of that Country came for Justice in an Assembly of Peers and others of greatest Rank upon occasion of a Speech of the Recorder of that City touching their Franchises and Regal Rights he tells them That Ireland was a Conquered Nation and that the King might do with them what he pleased Secondly Not long after in the Parliament 10 Car. in the Chair of State in full Parliament again That they were a Conquer'd Nation and that they were to expect Laws as from a Conqueror before the King might do with them what he would now they were to expect it that he would put this Power of a Conqueror in Execution The Circumstances are very Considerable in full Parliament from himself in Cathedra to the Representative Body of the whole Kingdom The Occasion adds much when they desir'd the Benefit of the Laws and that their Causes and Suits
subject to Schismes and Seditions Whatsoever other Kingdoms have been I am sure our Histories can tell us this Kingdom hath not and therefore we have cast him off long since as he is forrain though we have not been without one in our own Bowels For the difference between a Metropolitan or Diocesan or universal Bishop is not of kinds but of degrees and a Metropolitan or Diocesan Bishop is as ill able to perform the duty of a Pastor to his Diocess or Province as the Universal Bishop is able to do it to the whole World For the one cannot do but by Deputies and no more can the other and therefore since we all confess the Grounds upon which the Papacy stands are rotten how can we deny but these that maintain our Bishops are so too since they are one and the same In the second place let us consider by what hand this root of Episcopacy was planted and how it came into the Church It is no difficult matter to find this out for is not the very spirit of this Order a spirit of Pride exalting it self in the Temple of God over all that is called God First exalting it self above its fellow Presbyters under the form of a Bishop then over its fellow Bishops under the title of Archbishops and so still mounting over those of its own profession till it come to be Pope and then it sticks not to tread upon the necks of Princes Kings and Emperors and tramples them under its Feet Also thus you may trace it from it's first rise and discern by what Spirit this Order came into the Church and by what door even by the back-door of Pride and Ambition not by Christ Jesus It is not a Plant which Gods right Hand hath planted but it is full of Rottenness and Corruption that mystery of Iniquity which hath wrought thus long and so fit to be plucked up and removed out of the way Thirdly Let us consider the very nature and quality of this Tree or Root in its self whether it be good or corrupt in its own nature We all know where it is said A good Tree cannot bring forth corrupt Fruit nor a corrupt Tree good Fruit. Do men gather Grapes of Thorns or Figs of Thistles By its Fruit therefore we shall be sure to know it and according as the Fruits of the Government have been amongst us either in Church or Common-wealth so let it stand or fall with us In the Church 1. AS it self came in by the back-door into the Church and was brought in byf the Spirit of Antichrist so it self hath been the back-door and in-let od all Superstition and Corruption into the Worship and Doctrine of this Church ano the means of hastening us back again to Rome For proof of this I appeal tall our knowledges in late years past the memory whereof is so fresh I need enter into no particulars A second Fruit of this Government in the Church hath been the displacing of the most Godly and Conscientious Ministers the vexing punishing and banishing out of the Kingdom the most Religious of all sorts and conditions that would not comply with their Superstitious Inventions and Ceremonies in one word the turning the edge and power of their Government against the very Life and Power of Godliness and the Favour and Protection of it unto all Profane Scandalous and Superstitious Persons that would uphold their Party Thousands of examples might be given of this if it were not most Notorious A third Fruit hath bin Schism and Fractions within our selves and Alienation from all the reformed Churches abroad And lastly the prodigious Monster of the late Canons whereby they had designed the whole Nation to a perpetual Slavery and Bondage to themselves and their superstitious Inventions These are the Fruits of the Government in the Church Now let us consider these in the Civil State As 1. The countenancing all illegal Projects and proceedings by Teaching in their Pulpits the Lawfulness of an Arbitrary Power 2. The overthrowing all process at Common-Law that reflected never so little upon their Courts 3. The kindling a War between these two Nations and blowing up the Flame as much as in them lay by their Counsels Canons and Subsidies they granted to that end 4. The Plots Practises and Combinations during this Parliament in all which they seem to have been interested more or less Thus have they not contented themselves with encroachments upon our Spiritual priviledges but have envied us our civil freedom desiring to make us grind in their Mill as the Philistims did Sampson and to put out both our Eyes O let us be avenged of these Philistims for our two Eyes If then the Tree be to be known by its Fruits I hope you see by this time plainly the nature and quality of this Tree In the last place give me leave for a close of all to present to your consideration the mischiefs which the continuance of this Government doth threaten us with if by the wisedom of this Committee they be not prevented First the danger our Religion must ever be in so long as it is in the hands of such Governors as can stand firmly in nothing more then its ruin and whose affinity with the Popes Hierarchy makes them more confident of the Papists then the professors of the reformed Religion for their safety and subsistence Secondly the unhappy condition our Civil State is in whilst the Bishops have Vote in the Lords House being there as so many obstructions in our Body Politick to all good and wholesom Laws tending to Salvation Thirdly the improbability of setling any firm or durable Peace so long as the cause of the War yet continues and the Bellows that blow up this Flame Lastly and that which I will assure you goes nearest to my Heart is the check which we seem to give to Divine Providence if we do not at this time pull down this Government For hath not this Parliament been called continued preserved and secured by the immediate Finger of God as it were for this work had we not else been swallowed up in many inevitable dangers by the practises and designs of these men and their Party Hath not God left them to themselves as well in these things as in the evil administration of their Government that he might lay them open unto us and lead us as it were by the hand from the finding them to be the causes of our evil to discern that their rooting up must be our only cure Let us not then halt any longer between two opinions but with one Heart and Resolution give glory to God in complying with his providence and with the good fafety and peace of this Church and State which is by passing this Bill we are now upon I cannot pass by this Speech of Sir Henry Vane's without a short Animadversion upon that threadbare Topique which he builds the whole Fabrique of his Harangue upon of the Antichristianism of the very Order of
aforesaid did on the deliver his Opinion in the Exchequer Chamber against John Hampden Esquire in the Case of Ship-Money that he the said John Hampden upon the matter and substance of the Case was chargeable with the Money then in Question A Copy of which proceeding and judgment the Commons of this present Parliament have delivered to your Lordships 7. That he the said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Justices of the Court of Kings-Bench and one of the Justices of Assize for the County of York did at the Assizes held at York in Lent 1636. deliver his charge to the Grand-Jury that it was a lawful and inseparable Flower of the Crown for the King to command not only the Maritime Counties but also those that were In-land to find Ships for the defence of the Kingdom And then likewise falsely and maliciously affirmed that it was not his single judgment but the judgment of all his Brethren witnessed by their subscriptions And then also said that there was a rumour that some of his Brethren that had subscribed were of a contrary Judgment but it was a base and unworthy thing for any to give his Hand contrary to his Heart and then wished for his own part that his Hand might rot from his Arm that was guilty of any such Crime when as he knew that Master Justice Hutton and Master Justice Crook who had subscribed were of a contrary Opinion and was present when they were perswaded to subscribe and did subscribe for Conformity only because the major Number of the Judges had subscribed And he the said Sir Robert Berkley then also said that in some Cases the Judges were above an Act of Parliament which said false malicious Words were uttered as aforesaid with intent and purpose to countenance and maintain the said unjust Opinions and to terrifie His Majesties Subjects that should refuse to pay Ship-Money or seek any remedy by Law against the said unjust and illegal Taxation 8. That whereas Richard Chambers Merchant having commenced a Suite for Trespass and false imprisonment against Sir Edward Bromfield Knight for imprisoning him the said Chambers for refusing to pay Ship-Money in the time that the said Sir Edward Bromfield was Lord Mayor of the City of London in which Suite the said Sir Edward Bromfield did make a special Justification The said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Justices of the Court of Kings-Bench in Trinity Term last then sitting on the Bench in the said Court upon debate of the said Case between the said Chambers and Sir Edward Bromfield said openly in the Court that there was a Rule of Law and a Rule of Government And that many things which might not be done by the Rule of Law might be done by the Rule of Government And would not suffer the Point of Legality of Ship-Money to be argued by Chambers his Councel all which Opinions Declarations Words and Speeches contained in the Third Fourth Fifth Sixth Seventh and Eighth Articles are destructive to the Fundamental Laws of this Realm the Subjects right of Property and contrary to former Resolutions in Parliament and to the Petition of Right which Resolution in Parliament and Petition of Right were well known to him and Resolved and Enacted when he was the King's Serjeant at law and attendant in the Lords House of Parliament 9. That he the said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Judges of the Court of King's-Bench and being in Commission of the Peace and duly sworn to execute the Office of a Justice of Peace in the County of Hertford on or about the seventh of January 1638. at which time the General Sessions of the Peace for the said County were there holden The said Sir Robert Berkley then and there sitting on the Bench did revile and threaten the Grand-Jury returned to serve at the said Sessions for presenting the removal of the Communion Table in All-Saints Church in Hertford aforesaid out of the Place where it anciently and usually stood and setting it Alter-ways against the Laws of this Realm in that Case made and provided as an Innovation in Matters concerning the Church the said Grand-Jury having delivered to them in Charge at the said Sessions by Master Serjeant Atkins a Justice of the Peace of the said County of Hertford that by the Oath they had taken they were bound to present all Innovations concerning Church Matters And he the said Sir Robert Berkley compelled the Fore-Man of the Jury to tell him who gave him any such Information and thereby knowing it to be one Henry Brown one of the said Grand-Jury he asked the said Brown how he durst meddle with Church Matters who affirming that in the said Charge from Master Serjeant Atkins the said Jury was charged to do he the said Sir Robert Berkley told the said Brown he should therefore find Sureties for his good Behaviour and that he the said Sir Robert Berkley would set a great Fine on his Head to make him an Example to others and thereupon the said Brown offered sufficient Bail but he the said Sir Robert Berkley being incensed against him refused the said Bail and committed the said Brown to Prison where he lay in Irons till the next Morning and used to the said Brown and the rest of the Jurors many other reviling and terrifying Speeches And said he knew no Law for the said Presentment and told the said Brown that he had sinned in the said Presentment And he compelled the said Grand-Jurors to say they were sorry for that they had done in that Presentment and did bid them to trample the said Presentment under their Feet and caused Brown to tear the said Presentment in his sight And he the said Sir Robert Berkley when as John Houland and Ralph Pemberton late Mayor of Saint Albons came to desire his Opinion on several Indictments against John Brown Parson of Saint Albons and Anthony Smith Vicar of Saint Peters in Saint Albons at the Quarter Sessions held at the said Town of Saint Albons on the four and twentieth of June 1639. for the removal of the Communion Table out of the usual Place and not Administring the Sacrament according to Law in that Case provided He the said Sir Robert Berkley then told them that such an Indictment was before him at Hertford and that he quashed the same and imprisoned the Promoters by which threatning and reviling Speeches unjust Actions and Declarations he so terrified the Jurors in those Parts that they durst not present any Innovations in the Church Matters to their great Grief and Trouble of their Consciences And whereas several Indictments were preferred against Matthew Brook Parson of Yarmouth by John Ingram and John Carter for refusing several times to Administer the Sacrament of the Lords-Supper to them without any lawful Cause at the Assizes held at Norwich in 1633. He the said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Judges of the Assize proceeded then to the Tryal on the said
abound with Soldiers and such others as will be apt to be provoked to Tumults and Seditions especially in the time of the King's absence in Scotland III. That the House of Commons have received Information of great quantities of Treasure and Jewels Plate and Ready-mony packt up to be conveyed away with the Queen not only in such a proportion as the present occasions with due respect to Her Majesties honour may seem to require but a far greater quantity and that divers Papists and others under the pretence of Her Majesties Goods are like to convey great Sums of Mony and other Treasure beyond the Seas which will not only impoverish the State but may be employed to the somenting some mischievous attempts to the trouble of the publick Peace IV. hat as it will be a great dishonour to the State A pretty odd contradiction to the third Reason if her Majesty should not be Attended and Furnished suitably to her Quality so it will be a very heavy burden in this time of great Necessity and occasion of other publick Charges if she shall be provided in so Royal a manner as shall be fit for Her Majesty and the Honour of the King and Kingdom V. That because we understand by Sir Theodore Mayern that the chief cause of her Majesties Sickness and Distempers proceed from some discontent of her mind the House of Commons have thought good to declare That if any thing within the power of Parliament can give Her Majesty contentment they are so tender of her health both in due respect to His most Excellent Majesty and Her Self that they will be ready to further her satisfaction in all things so far as may stand with that Publick to which they are obliged VI. That the House of Commons conceive it will be some dishonour to this Nation if Her Majesty should at this unseasonable time go out of the Kingdom upon any Grief or Discontent received here and therefore they shall labour by all good means to take away and prevent all just occasion of Her Majesties trouble in such manner as may further Her Content and therein Her Health which will be a very great Joy and Comfort both to them and the rest of His Majesties loving Subjects to see All which they humbly recommend to Your Majesties Princely Wisdom beseeching Your Majesty that by Your allowance they may represent their humble desires at such time and with such number of both Houses as Her Majesty shall please to appoint Friday July 16. Six Lords and Twelve Commoners appointed to attend Her Majesty at Three of the Clock this Afternoon Mr. Hollis Reports the Conference with the Lords about what was to be offered to the Queen to put off her Journey which was as follows THe Lords and Commons taking notice of Your Majesties Intention to pass the Seas by reason of Your indisposition The Message spoken to the Queen about her Journey whereby the Kingdom will be deprived of Your Majesties presence and divers other great Inconveniences to the State may thereupon ensue which yesterday both Houses of Parliament did most humbly represent unto the King and withal Petitioned for this Access unto Your Majesty that so they might express unto Your Self their hearty sorrow for Your Majesties Sickness and most earnest desires to perform any Duty whereby they may be serviceable for the Recovery of Your Majesties Health And because they have been informed by Sir Theodore Mayern that this indisposition proceeds from some inward discontent of Mind the Lords and Commons have thought good to declare that if any thing within the Power of Parliament may give your Majesty contentment they are so tender of your Majesties Health both in due respect to His Majesty and Your Self that they will be ready to further your Majesties Satisfaction in all things so far as may stand with the Publick Trust to which they are obliged And besides they humbly conceive that it may be some dishonor to this Nation if your Majesty should in this unseasonable Time go out of the Kingdom upon any Grief or Discontent received here and therefore they shall labor by all good Means to take away and prevent all such just Occasions of your Majesties trouble in such manner as may farther your Majesties Contentment and therein your Health which will be a very great Comfort and Joy to themselves and the rest of His Majesties loving Subjects It was this day Ordered That Mr. Pym being sued for Tithe Wood Saturday July 17. Ordered to stop a Suit against Mr. Pym. shall have the Priviledge of Parliament and that Lewis Lushford and others the Solicitor and Attorney on the other side be hereby enjoyned to forbear to Prosecute or further to proceed in that Suit or any other that concerns the said Mr. Pym. Mr. Hollis Reports the Queen's Answer in haec verba I Give many Thanks to both Houses of Parliament The Queens Answer to the Lords and Commons for their great Care of my Health and their Affections to Me hoping I shall see the Effects of it Truely nothing but my Health could have made Me to resolve of this Journey and if I thought I could serve the King and this Kingdom with the hazzard of my Life I would do it and I hope you believe I have so much Interest in the Good of this Kingdom that I shall never wish any thing to the prejudice of it You will Pardon the imperfectness of my English I had rather have spoken in an other Language but I thought this would be most acceptable It was this Day in the House of Lords Ordered The Persons that pulled down the Railes in St. Saviors Church released That those Persons that were sentenced by the House for Violently breaking down the Railes in the Parish Church of St. Saviors Southwark shall upon their Petition to this House desiring their Lordships Favor and humbly acknowledging the Sentence of this House to be Just upon them their Misdemeanors in that Business be released out of their present Imprisonment for the same And in regard they are of that Poverty that they are not able to set up the Railes again at their own Charges this House doth remit that part of the Sentence A Message was brought from the House of Commons by Sir John Holland who presented three Bills which had passed that House 3 Bills brought up by Sir John Holland 1 for securing Protestant Religion c. 1 An Act for the Security of the true Religion which they desired Expedition of 2 An Act concerning the Limiting and bounding of Forrests 3 An Act for John Eggars Free-School at Acton in the County of Southampton And to desire a Conference by a Committee of both Houses at such time as their Lordships shall please touching the transmission of the Charge against Bishop Wren and concerning Inego Jones for pulling down St. Gregories Church Mr. Pym reports from the Committee for the 10 Propositions a Paper being a Message
concerning the Declaration of the House about Innovations the Committee have sent divers of them into the Country and have found that in some places where there were good Ministers It was designed for a Snare for the Loyal Clergy they were Entertained and in some other places they were neglected but for the most part it is by those that have been questioned here for other Matters The Committee took into Consideration the Intention of the House concerning the publishing of the Declaration therefore they gave Directions to require the publishing thereof in Churches and that the Churchwardens might see the Execution thereof Some Particulars concerning this will come in a Special Report which I shall now only touch upon in General in regard of the Great Importance of the Business first to be considered of this day touching the Troubles of Scotland of which I shall give you an account The next thing the Committee did take into Consideration was the Correspondency with the Committee in Scotland in receiving Letters from them and sending Answers to them I shall not need to produce their several Letters now it will take up too much time but the chief Point was touching the Disbanding of the Army and two Garrisons of Berwick and Carlisle for Carlisle it is totally Disbanded and the Soldiers sent into Ireland to be placed there as they were before in the King's Army for we did conceive it Fitter those new men now in the King's Army there should be dismissed and these that were formerly taken from thence should be entertained again for we hear a good report of their Carriage at Carlisle For the Garrison at Berwick that required longer time of Consideration at the Committee for besides the demolishing of the Works which was much pressed by the Scots and seconded by a Letter from his Majesty out of Scotland there was a want of Money yet the Committee got sufficient to Disband all and sent it down and because the Scots Commissioners desired to know a certain day of our Disbanding and then they would upon knowledg of that disband their Forces whereupon the Committee set down the 15th of October to be the last day of Disbanding and the Letter yesterday received from Sir Michael Ernley shows that he hath Money enough to disband all and that the Horse are disbanded and Five Companies of Foot and that on Friday last the other Companies of Foot had been disbanded but that a Letter came from Sir Henry Vane in his Majesties Name requiring to stay the disbanding of the rest till further Order of which you shall hear more when I come to that part of my Report month October 1641. For the Arms and Ammunition at Carlisle the Committee gave Order for the safe laying of them up to be well kept till the next Spring that it be more Seasonable to send for them away they being now five or six miles from the Sea side which would have taken now much time to have shipped them and Sir George D'alliston and other Members of the House are desired to take care of the safe keeping it in the mean time For the Ammunition at Berwick the Committee have sent six Ships to Transport the same to the Tower and agreed with them for a certain Sum for the doing thereof within such a time and if they stayed longer to have so much per diem for demurrage The next thing we took into Consideration at the Committee was concerning Tumults though we cannot say any great Tumults yet there were seeds sown which might have occasioned some in the Execution of the Order of the House touching Innovations but I shall make a particular Report of those Parishes where they were at blows and likely to come to blows if the Committee had not sought the prevention of it which was the Ground why the Committee entertained their Petition There was another like Trouble and sign of Tumult by the frequent resort of Troopers to Town and to the Committee who delivered in Thirty Petitions to the Committee in their own Names and the Names of other discontented persons in the Army We could not refuse to accept their Petitions lest they should grow to Tumults and of their Complaints and the Nature of them I shall give a particular Report but the Committee Voted nothing concerning them It will be very fit to resolve something concerning them that they may depart the Town for under the name of the Soldiers many Robberies are done which occasioned the Committee to give Order See here a Committee Exercise more power than they would allow the King and a pretty Evasion of the Order of Parliament in giving single Passes by which 20000 Men might have been as Easily Transported as 200. That all of them that desire to have Passes to go beyond Sea might have the same But this would not serve their turn unless they might have liberty to receive pay here to go in Companies under Commanders to the Service of Forreign Princes which the Committee could not give way unto in regard of the Ordinance of both Houses to the contrary There is another Head the Committee had in Charge concerning the King's Revenue All that we could do in that which I did by the direction of the Committee was to take Care for a Ballance touching the same and accordingly I spake with the King's Officers about it and a Ballance will be ready when you shall please to call for it The next was concerning the Exchange beyond Sea I think for that there will be a good return made for the Benefit of the Common-wealth Another thing was concerning the Irish Petitions but the Gentleman that used to be in the Chair for Irish affairs Mr. Whistler was out of Town and had most of their Petitions with him so we could do nothing only one Mr. Cope and Mr. Lomach who had long attended had their Case made known to the Committee the one desiring to have two Witnesses Examined upon a Petition here depending who are ready to go to Sea and the other Mr. Cope of English Parents and great Family is a Petitioner for recovery of an Estate of great Value which he conceives hath been long kept from him wrongfully and desires that a Committee may but consider of the Depositions already taken touching the same in several Courts of Record Whether these be not just Cause for him to have Relief and matter of Ground to proceed on in his Petition and if not he will desist in Petitioning the House Next thing in Charge was concerning the Delinquents in that we made but a small progress for we had a desire to have perfected the Charge against my Lord Archbishop of Canterbury but in regard those of the Long Robe of the Committee were for most part absent we could not proceed therein Next there came to me to my Lodgings at Chelsey Sir John Berkley and Sergeant Major Oneal who said That they were accused and had rashly withdrawn themselves but upon
Estates which may come Judicially before them 15. To the Fifteenth they say That they conceive that where Priviledges are claimed by any Body Politic or other the King's Council may exhibit a Quo Warranto to cause the Parties claiming such Priviledges to set forth and shew by what Warrant they claim the same and that the Court cannot hinder the issuing of Process at the Instance of the King's Attorney to exhibit such Information But when the Case shall upon the Proceedings be brought to Judgment then and not before the Court is to take notice and give Judgment upon the Merit and Circumstances of the Cause as upon due consideration shall be conceived to be according to Law in which Case the Judges nor the King's Attorney as they conceive ought to be punished by any ordinary Rule of Law or Statute that they know But for this particular Question of Quo Warranto for that it hath been a great Question in this present Parliament and concerns the highest Court of Justice in this Kingdom and also concerns two other of His Majesties Courts of Justice and therein His Majesties Prerogative in those Courts they cannot safely deliver any Opinion therein before it comes Judicially before them and that they hear it argued and debated by Learned Councel on both sides 16. To the Sixteenth they say That although the Jurors be the sole Judges of the matter of Fact yet the Judges of the Court are Judges of the Validity of the Evidence and of the matters of Law arising out of the same wherein the Jury ought to be guided by them And if the Jury in any Criminal Cause between the King and Party give their Verdict contrary to clear and apparent Evidence delivered in Court they have been constantly and still ought to be Censured in the Star-Chamber in England and Castle-Chamber here for this misdemeanour in perverting the right Course of Justice in such Fines and other punishment as the Merits and Circumstances of the Cause doth deserve according to the Course of the said Courts For that their Consciences ought to be directed by the Evidence and not be misguided by their Wills and Affections and if the Jury know any matter of Fact which may either better or blemish their Evidence they may take advantage thereof but they ought to discover the same to the Judges And they say That this proceeding in the Court of Castle-Chamber is out of the same ground that Writs of Attaint are against a Jury that gives a false Verdict in a Court of Record at the Common Law betwixt Party and Party which false Verdict being found by a Jury of 24 notwithstanding that the first Jurors were Judges of the Fact yet that infamous Judgment was pronounced against the first Jury which is next or rather worse then Judgment of Death and lay a perpetual brand of Perjury upon them for which reason it was Antiently called the Villainous Judgment And they say That the Law to direct the punishment for such Offence is the course of the said Court which is a Law as to that purpose and the Statute of 3 H. 7. cap. 1 2. and other Statutes of Force in this Kingdom 17. To the Seventeenth they say They can answer no otherwise then they have in their Answer to the next precedent Question 18. To the Eighteenth they say That in a Legal Construction the Statute of Magna Charta in which the words of Salvo Contenemento are mentioned is only to be understood of Amerciaments and not of Fines Yet where great Fines are imposed in Terrorem upon the reducement of them regard is to be had to the Ability of the Persons 19. To the Nineteenth they say That if one doth steal a Sheep or commit other Felony and after flyeth the Course of Justice or lyeth in Woods or Mountains upon his Keeping Yet he doth not thereby become a Traytor neither doth a Proclamation make him so the Chief use whereof in such a case is to invite the Party so standing out to submit himself to Justice or to forewarn others of the danger they may run into by Keeping him Company or giving him Maintenance or Relief whereby he may the Rather submit to Justice 20. To the Twentieth they say That the Testimony or Evidence of Rebels or Traytors under Protection or Thieves or other Infamous persons is not to be used or pressed as Convincing Evidence upon the Tryal of any man for his Life And so is his Majesties printed Instructions as to persons Condemned or under Protection yet the Testimony of such persons not condemned may be given in Evidence at the Tryal and being fortified with other Concurring Proof or Apparent Circumstances may be pressed upon any Tryal and for discovering their Fellows or Abettors or Relievers as the Circumstances may offer themselves in their Examination especially if before they Confess themselves guilty of the Offence in Imitation of the Approver at the Common Law whereof no Certain Rule may be given And it needs not be made a Question here Whether the Jurors or Judges ought to be Judges of the matter of Fact It being positively laid down in the 16th Question that they are and tho their false Verdict doth convince or not convince the Prisoner yet they may be questioned and punish'd for a false Verdict as in their Answer to the 16th is already declared 21. To the Twenty first they say That that Question is now judicially depending and hath been already solemnly argued in his Majesties Court of Wards in which Court their Assistance for declaration of the Law therein is already required And therefore they humbly desire they may not be compelled to give any Opinion touching that Point until it be resolved there 22. To the Two and twentieth they say That they do conceive there is no matter of Law contained in the said Question yet for further satisfaction of your Lordships they say That upon View of an Act of State bearing date at his Majesties Castle of Dublin the 24th of December 1636. grounded upon his Majesties Letters of the 5th of July last past it appears unto them that Four shillings in the pound as of his Majesties free Gift and Reward out of the first payment of the Increase of Rent reserved to his Majesty was allow'd unto the Judges that were Commissioners and attended that Service And they humbly conceive That the receiving of that Four shillings in the pound of his Majesties Bounty stands well with the Integrity of a Judge And those Judges did inform them That they did not avoid any Letters Patents upon those Commissions of Defective Titles but receive such to Compound as submitted for the strengthening of their defective Patents and Titles And such as would stand upon the Validity of their Grants were left to the Tryal of Law And that the Compositions made after the said Grants of 4 s. in the pound were made according to Rules and Rates agreed upon by all the Commissioners before his
Majesty's said Letters or the said Act of State and not otherwise The Commons not being satisfied with these Sober and Calm Resolutions of the Judges fell to Voting their own Sense and to make Declarations of the Law upon their former Queries as followeth Questions propounded in Parliament And Declarations of the Law thereupon in Parliament Quest 1. The Declaration of the Commons in Ireland upon the Queries propounded to the Judges WHether the Subjects of this Kingdom be a Free People and to be Governed only by the Common Laws of England and Statutes of Force in this Kingdom Declarat The Subjects of this his Majesties Kingdom of Ireland are a free People and to be Governed only according the Common Law of England and Statutes made and established by Parliament in this Kingdom of Ireland and according to the Lawful Customs used in the same 2. Quest Whether the Judges of this Land do take the Oath of Judges And if so Whether under pretext of any Act of State Proclamation Writ Letter or Direction under the Seal or Privy Seal Signet or Letter or other Commandment from the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy Justice Justices or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom they may hinder stay or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon If so in what Cases And whether if they do hinder stay or delay such Suit or Judgment or Execution thereupon what Punishment do they incur for their deviation and transgression therein Declarat That Judges in Ireland ought to take the Oath of the Justices or Judges declared and established in several Parliaments of Force in this Kingdom and the said Judges or any of them by Color or under Pretext of any Act of State or Proclamation or under Color or Protext of any Writ Letter or Direction under the Great Seal Privy Seal or Privy Signet from the King 's Most Excellent Majesty or by Color or Pretext of any Letter or Commandment from the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom ought not to hinder or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon and if any Letters Writs or Commands come from his Majesty or from any other or for any other Cause to the Justices or to the other deputed to do the Law and right according to the Usage of the Realm in disturbance of the Law or of the Execution of the same or of Right to the Party the Justices and others aforesaid ought to proceed and hold their Courts and Processes where the Pleas and Matters be depending before them as if no such Letters Writs or Commandments were come to them And in case any Judge or Judges Justice or Justices be found in default therein he or they so found in default ought to incur and undergo due Punishment according to the Law and former Declarations and Provisions in Parliament in that Case made and of Force in this Kingdom or as shall be Ordered Adjudged or Declared in Parliament And the Barons of the Exchequer Justices of the Assize and Goal-delivery if they be found in default as aforesaid It is hereby declared That they ought to undergo the Punishment aforesaid 3. Quest Whether the Kings Majesties Privy Council either with the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom or without him or them be a Place of Judicature by the Commons Laws and wherein Causes between Party and Party for Debts Trespasses Accompts Possessions or Title of Lands or any of them or which of them may be heard and determined and of what Civil Causes they have Jurisdiction and by what Law And of what Force is their Order or Decree in such Cases or any of them Declarat The Council Table of this Realm either with the Chief Governor or Governors or without the Chief Governor or Governors is no Judicatory wherein any Action Real Personal Popular or Mixt or any Suit in the Nature of the said Actions or any of them can or ought to be Commenced Heard or Determined and all Proceedings at the Council Table in any Suit in the nature of any of the said Actions are void especially Causes particularly provided for by express Acts of Parliament of Force in this Kingdom only excepted 4. Quest The Like of the Chief Governor alone Declarat The Proceedings before the Chief Governor or Governors alone in any Action Real Personal Popular or Mixt or in any Suit in the Nature of any of the said Actions are Coram non Judice and void 5. Quest Whether Grants of Monopolies be warranted by the Law and of what and in what Cases and how and where and by whom are the pretended Transgressors against such Grants punishable and whether by Fine Mutilation of Members Imprisonment Loss and Forfeiture of Goods or otherwise and which of them Declarat All Grants of Monopolies are contrary to the Laws of this Realm and therefore void and no Subject of the said Realm ought to be Fined Imprisoned or otherwise Punished for exercising or using the Lawful Liberty of a Subject contrary to such Grants 6. Quest In what Cases the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom and Council may punish by Fine Imprisonment Mutilation of Members Pillory or otherwise And whether they may Sentence any to such the same or the like punishment for infringing the Commands of or concerning any Proclamation of and concerning Monopolies and what punishment do they incur that Vote for the same Declarat The Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors and Council of this Realm or any of them ought not to imprison any of his Majesties Subjects but only in Cases where the Common Laws or Statutes of the Realm do inable and warrant them so to do and they ought not to Fine or to Consure any Subject in mutilation of Member standing on the Pillory or other shameful Punishment in any Case at the Council Table and no Subject ought to be Imprisoned Fined or otherwise Punished for Infringing any Commands or Proclamation for the support or Countenance of Monopolies and if in any Case any Person or Persons shall be committed by the Command or Warrant of the Chief Governor or Governors and Privy Council of this Realm or any of them That in every such Case every Person or Persons so Committed restrained of his or their Liberty or suffering Imprisonment upon Demand or Motion made by his or their Counsel or other imployed by him or them for that purpose unto the Judges of the Court of Kings-Bench or Common-Pleas in open Court shall without delay upon any Pretence whatsoever for the ordinary Fees usually paid for the same have forthwith granted unto him or them a Writ or Writs of Habeas Corpus to be directed generally unto all and every Sheriff Goaler Minister Officer or other Person in whose Custody the Party or Parties so Committed or Restrained shall be shall at the Return of the said Writ or Writs and
so in all Courts of Justice in all manner of Pleadings Answering and Replying else abundance of mistakes would happen of all sides which the presence of the Parties might prevent As for Example in this particular Had the House of Commons been present there had not happened so many Jeofailes and Mistakes And because Demurrers arise ordinarily from the incertainty of the Charge the second Impeachment was of purpose brought in to avoid incertainties because the particulars omitted in the first were supplied in the second The Book was appended to the second but not to the first Impeachment but the second was not entred as it was delivered and so this Cause of so much Consequence hath been delayed 2. Because posito sed non concesso put the Case the Commons ought not to be called upon and to be present at other defences yet ought they to be in all defences made in this Case because they had conceptis verbis in precise words desired it which they did because this is a Fecit aut non fecit a meer matter of Fact and the Bishops ought to have clearly answered such a matter of Fact that the House of Commons might presently have descended to their Proofs according to the Old Law Est non est de omni re verum est That the House of Commons had Commanded him to put their Lordships in mind That long time given in Causes of this Nature produce great Inconveniences and that this kind of proceeding is not presidented in former Parliaments for this Course would keep all Causes from being Heard and Delinquents from being Questioned Super totam materiam he demanded in the Name of the House of Commons one of these 3 things to be granted 1. That the Demurrer might be rejected 2. That their Lordships would proceed to Judgment 3. Or at least that the House of Commons might be admitted to make their proof without further delay This being done the Councel for the Bishops were called in and heard the second Impeachment of the 13th of August last read and then the Councel desired some short day to consider what Answer the Bishops should make thereunto Hereupon it was Ordered That the 13 Bishops impeached shall put in their Answers to the aforesaid Impeachment on Saturday next or Resolve whether they will abide by their Plea and Demurrer In the House of Commons a Petition of several Officers of the late Army was read to remind the House of their promise concerning the Payment of their Arrears but nothing was done upon it The Bill for waving of Protections was also Reported and Ordered to be re-committed A Bill was also brought in for making Lord General of all the Forces within the Kingdom of England and Dominion of Wales A Bill for a L. General and L. High Admiral read and rejected and Lord High Admiral of England and being read it was put to the Question for a second Reading thereupon the House divided with the Yea was 105 with the No 158 So that hopeful project was nipped in the Bud and passing in the Negative it was rejected An Information was given A trifling Information That a Barrel of Gun-Powder was gone to Dorchester for a Barrel of Soap And one would think that such a trifling matter which in all probability was a perfect mistake and had it been real could be of no great moment should not have been thought worth the notice of a House of Commons but every little thing that contributed to inhanse the Fears of the People was laid hold of to inflame their apprehension of Dangers and the care they took in these little inconsiderable Affairs did strangely Augment their Reputation in the esteem of the common People who looked upon them as the most diligent and vigilant Patriots that ever sate within those Walls whose Care was as great as their Intelligence was quick and universal and therefore to countenance and encourage Informations they despised none for even for this single Barrel of Powder Order to search at Dorchester for a Barrel of Powder sent down for a Battel of Soap an Order of the House of Commons was directed to the Justices of the Peace of Dorchester to make diligent search for a Barrel of Gun-Powder which the House of Commons was informed was sent down thither for for a Barrel of Soap and to send an account of the matter to the House The Lord Keeper acquainted the House Wednesday Decemb. 8. A Message from his Majesty to both Houses about the Scots Commissioners the request of the French Ambassador about certain condemned Priests That His Majesty had Commanded him to signifie to both Houses That it is His Majesties desire that both Houses would consider of and prepare the Instructions which the Commissioners of both Houses have for the treating with the Scots Commissioners touching the Occasions of Ireland and that the same be presented to His Majesty That His Majesty further Commanded him to let both Houses know That the French Ambassador hath presented a desire to His Majesty That Eight Priests Condemned this Week may not be put to Execution but Banished or Imprisoned in this time the rather for that it may concern the settling of the Affairs in Ireland which desire His Majesty promised should be Communicated to the Houses of Parliament for their advice therein Though nothing in the World was a plainer Demonstration of the tender Inclinations of this Excellent Prince which was so averse to whatever was Sanguinary and that there was a very substantial Reason in common Policy at this time to comply with the request of the Ambassador in regard it might be expected the Irish Rebels would Retalliate this Severity which though according to the Laws in force they would call Cruelty and the innocent Protestants who fell into their Power might feel the Effects of it yet was it mighty unpopular and his Enemies of the Faction who were most inexorable upon such occasions made very ill Use of it to insinuate the venomous Calumny into the minds of the People that he was a favourer of Popery and wholly managed by Popish Councils and that he had Espoused their Interests and from thence to augment the Dangers with which the Kingdom was threatned and therefore by Consequence how absolutely necessary it was that His Majesty should comply with the desires of the Faction and change his Evil Councellors and take such Persons into all places of Power or Trust as the Nation might confide in as may be observed from the Declaration and Petition lately presented to His Majesty at Hampton-Court However the Message was communicated to the Commons at a Conference and the Lord Keeper Reported it as follows That the House of Commons were careful not to lose any time in the business of Ireland therefore they have presented to their Lordships Consideration the Instructions which are to be given to the Commissioners of both Houses who are to Treat with the Scots Commissioners Which
his Majesty evidently saw that their Design was to render his Person Reputation and Government Cheap Contemptible and Odious to his Subjects and this put him upon Printing likewise his Answer to the Remonstrance and issuing out a Declaration to all his Loving Subjects for his own Vindication And here began the Paper-War between the King and Faction of the two Houses in which they were plainly the Aggressors of his Honor Dignity and Reputation His Majesty only standing upon the Defensive The Answer to the Petition and the Declaration were in these Terms WE having received from you The King's Answer to the Petition which accompanied the Remonstrance as also the Declaration concerning it Dec. 1641. soon ofter Our Return out of Scotland a long Petition consisting of many Desires of great Moment together with a Declaration of a very unusual Nature annexed thereunto We had taken some time to consider of it as befitted Vs in a matter of that Consequence being confident that your own reason and regard to Vs as well as Our express intimation by Our Comptroller to that purpose would have restrained you from the Publishing of it till such time as you should have received Our Answer to it But much against Our expectation finding the contrary that the said Declaration is already abroad in Print by Directions from your House as appears by the printed Copy We must let you know that We are very sensible of the disrespect Notwithstanding it is Our Intention that no failing on your part shall make Vs fail in Ours of giving all due Satisfaction to the Desires of Our People in a Parliamentary Way And therefore We send you this Answer to your Petition reserving Our self in Point of the Declaration which We think unparliamentary and shall take a Course to do that which We shall think fit in Prudence and Honor. To the Petition We say That although there are divers things in the Preamble of it which We are so far from admitting that We profess We cannot at all understand them as Of a wicked and malignant Party prevalent in the Government Of some of that Party admitted to Our Privy Council and to other Imployments of Trust and nearest to Us and Our Children Of Endeavors to sow amongst the People false Scandals and Imputations to blemish and disgrace the Proceedings of the Parliament All or any of which did We know of We should be as ready to remedy and Punish as you to Complain of That the Prayers of your Petition are grounded upon such Premisses as We must in no Wise admit yet notwithstanding We are pleased to give this Answer to you To the first concerning Religion consisting of several Branches We say that for the preserving the Peace and Safety of this Kingdom from the designs of the Popish Party We have and will still concur with all the just Desires of Our People in a Parliamentary Way That for the depriving of the Bishops of their Votes in Parliament We would have you consider that their Right is grounded upon the Fundamental Law of the Kingdom and constitution of Parliament This We would have have you consider but since you desire Our concurrence herein in a Parliamentary Way We will give no further Answer at this time As for the abridging of the inordinate Power of the Clergy We conceive that the taking away of the High Commission Court hath well moderated that but if there continue any Vsurpations or Excesses in their Jurisdictions We therein neither have nor will protect them Vnto that Clause which concerneth Corruptions as you style them in Religion in Church-Government and in Discipline and the removing of such unnecessary Ceremonies as weak Consciences might check at That for any illegal Innovations which may have crept in We shall willingly concur in the removal of them That if Our Parliament shall advise Vs to call a National Synod which may duly examine such Ceremonies as give just cause of Offence to any We shall take it into Consideration and apply Our Self to give due Satisfaction therein But We are very sorry to hear in such general Terms Corruption in Religion objected since We are perswaded in Our Conscience that no Church can be found upon the Earth that professeth the true Religion with more purity of Doctrine than the Church of England doth nor where the Government and Discipline are joyntly more beautified and free from Superstition then as they are here established by Law which by the grace of God We will with Constancy maintain while We live in their Purity and Glory not only against all Invasions of Popery but also from the irreverence of those many Schismaticks and Separatists wherewith of late this Kingdom and this City abounds to the great dishonor and hazard both of Church and State for the suppressing of whom We require your timely Aid and active Assistance To the second Prayer of the Petition concerning the removal and choice of Counsellors We know not any of Our Councel to whom the Character set forth in the Petition can belong That by those whom We had exposed to Trial We have already given you sufficient Testimony that there is no Man so near unto Vs in Place or Affection whom We will not leave to the Justice of the Law if you shall bring a particular Charge and sufficient Proofs against him and of this We do again assure you but in the mean time We wish you to forbear such general Aspersions as may reflect upon all Our Councel since you name none in particular That for the choice of Our Counsellors and Ministers of State it were to debar Vs that natural Liberty all Freemen have and it is the undoubted Right of the Crown of England to call such Persons to Our secret Councels to publick Imployment and Our particular Service as We shall think fit so We are and ever shall be very careful to make Election of such Persons in those Places of Trust as shall have given good Testimonies of their Abilities and Integrity and against whom there can be no just Cause of exception whereon reasonably to ground a diffidence and to choices of this Nature We assure you that the mediation of the nearest unto Vs hath always concurred To the third Prayer of your Petition concerning Ireland We understand your Desire of not alienating the forfeited Lands thereof to proceed from your much Care and Love And likewise that it may be a Resolution very fit for Vs to take but whether it be seasonable to declare Resolutions of that Nature before the Events of a War be seen that We much doubt of Howsoever We cannot but thank you for this Care and your chearful ingagement for the suppressing of that Rebellion upon the speedy effecting thereof the Glory of God in the Protestant Profession the safety of the British there Our Honor and that of the Nation so much depends all the Interests of this Kingdom being so involved in that Business We cannot but quicken your
force if they could not be otherwise yet no breach appears no War was denounced there was no intention of a War but see what harboured in his Breast all the while The Fourth of December following my Lord Traquaire made his relation to the Council of the Scots proceedings and all this while there was no Demands brought by the Scots themselves nor reason of their Demands brought by others though they were not prepared yet you have heard his advice was for an offensive War and that the Demands were a just cause of the War And though he pretends he said no more than what the rest of the Lords of the Council concurred with him in I will joyn in issue with him in that and if some of your Lordships be not satisfied you have many Noble Lords among you from whom you may be satisfied that it is not so I am sure he proves it not It is true in the proposition of the Demands some of the Lords of the Council did say That these Demands hypothetically if the Scots did not give satisfaction by their Reasons were a just cause of War but not any Lord of the Council was of that opinion That the very Demands positively without hearing of the Reasons were a just cause of War but himself and I believe the Noble Lords of the Council their Consciences can tell them and I believe will deliver it to the rest of the Peers that I speak truth For the Offensive War he pretends a concurrence of the rest but it was disapproved many were for it upon these terms If they did not give Reasons and shew just cause for their Demands and many were against an Offensive War upon any terms and therefore herein he fixes that upon the Lords of the Council which he cannot make good All this while his intentions are discovered by a matter precedent but after the breach he discovers his anger further towards the Scottish Nation and makes it his design to incense the King to this War My Lords he is not at end yet for he confesses himself that he advised the King to call a Parliament and now I come to his work of merit but it was to his destruction and serves to prove this Article directly for to what purpose was this Parliament called Exitus acta probat it was no sooner set but within three Weeks a proposition is made for supply towards a War against the Scots who was the cause of calling the Parliament himself and therefore who was the cause of this Proposition but himself and so the calling of the Parliament is a concurring evidence of his being an Incendiary to put on the War and it shall appear anon absolutely that he was the occasion of it though he thinks there be no proof of it Did not he go over into Ireland and by his sollicitation there Subsidies were granted by the Parliament only to maintain this War and to shew their ingagement in it and who was the occasion of drawing them on I refer to your Lordships judgments by the circumstances precedent Your Lordships heard his good opinion of the Scots when he began to discourse with the Citizens touching Money and their affording of the King supply and seizing the Mint by giving them no better expositions than Rebels for saith he you are more forward to help the Rebels here than to pay the King his own I know not who he meant but certainly the Scots were in his thoughts so that from the beginning he incensed the War against them First he exclaimed against them during time of Peace He alledges in his Answer That things were found in such distraction that it was fit the Scots should be reduced by force he gave advice precipitately without hearing the reasons and not concurrent to the Council for an offensive War and putting all together I refer it to your Lordships judgment who is the Incendiary for how can it be proved more clearly unless it should appear under his Hand and Seal proved by two or three Witnesses Now My Lords how comes this to be his design here the Mystery comes to be unfolded Having thus incensed to the War and ingaged the King to the uttermost and having a Parliament now dissolved without supply he sets up an Idol of his own creation as a means to draw on his design and that was necessity necessity is it that must enforce the King what to do to levy Money to use his Prerogative to raise supplies upon His Subjects without their consent against their Will necessity must be his Argument and this War must be the occasion of that necessity and without that he cannot suggest to the King's ear or advise this necessity till this be brought to pass And now he hath brought it to pass he began in the One and twentieth Two and twentieth and Three and twentieth Article to perswade the King that Necessity hath surprized him by the Parliaments deserting of him that the Parliament had for saken the King in denying Supply and having tryed the affections of His People he was loose and absolved from all Rules of Government and had an Army in Ireland which he might employ to reduce this Kingdom That he spake these words to the King part is proved by two concurrent Witnesses that is that having tryed the affections of his People he was now loose and absolved from all Rules of Government which words are proved by two Witnesses of eminent quality that is my Lord of Northumberland and Sir Henry Vane and truly howsoever my Lord in his Speech pretends that the most material words are proved but by one Witness it seeming that he held it not a material charge that he counselled the King that he was absolved from all Rules of Government for my part if your Lordships be satisfied those words were proved I could willingly satisfy my own Conscience in it and make no great matter to quit the rest for I know not how he could express it in higher terms than that the King was absolved from all Rules of Government for then he might do what he would It is true the latter words touching the Irish Army are expresly proved but by one Witness Mr. Secretary Vane but are fortified again with such circumstances as make up more than one yea more than two other witnesses if your Lordships will have the Patience to have it represented as it is proved For howsoever it be slighted by him if your Lordships will call to mind the words of Sir George Ratcliffe his bosome Friend to whom he had contributed without question his advice in all causes the said Sir George Ratcliffe expressed it before and told some of his Friends supposing that he never should be called in question and that the power of my Lord of Strafford had been enough to protect any thing he had done and out of the abundance of the heart his mouth spake the King must now want no Money if he did no body would pity him
now he had his Sword in his hand Sir Robert King proves it so My Lord Ranalagh discovered the smoke of the fire that he had just cause to suspect and on good grounds I am sure and if the Commons of England had not just cause to suspect him as I believe he is convinced they had good cause what is the reason this suspition should be entertained at that time my Lord of Strafford being not then questioned for it and yet my Lord Ranalagh should say Shall we turn our Swords upon our own bowels Shall we bring this Army to turn the points of our blades upon that Nation from whence we were all derived and that was before any conference with Mr. Secretary Vane Sir William Pennyman himself his own Witness and Friend says at York before my Lord of Strafford was questioned that there was a common fame of bringing the Army into England and there is something in that surely and after all this to produce one Witness that expresly proves the very words spoken in terminis as they be charged if your Lordships put the whole together see whether there be not more than one Witness And under favour my Lord Cottington if you call to mind his Testimony I must justify he did declare That he heard my Lord of Strafford tell the King That some reparation was to be made to the Subjects Property which must infer he had advised an Invasion upon the Property else by no good coherence should a reparation be made And that he testifies this I must affirm and most here will affirm it and I think your Lordships well remember it and that is an addition to it for if your Lordships cast your eye upon the Interrogatory administred to my Lord Admiral and my Lord Cottington that very question is asked so that his own Conscience told him he had advised something to invade upon the People when he advised to a restitution after things should be setled and so I refer it to your Lordships consideration whether here be not more than one witness by far It is true he makes Objections to lessen this testimony First That this Army was to be landed at Ayre in Scotland and not here and this was declared to Sir Thomas Lucas Mr. Slingsby Sir William Pennyman and others Secondly That others that were present when the words are supposed to be spoken did not hear any such words For the first Perhaps the Army might be originally intended for Scotland and yet this is no contradiction but he might intend it afterwards for England surely this is no Logick that because it was intended for one place it could never be intended for another place so his allegation may be true and the charge stand true likewise Beside that it was intended originally for Scotland what proof makes he He told several persons of the design but I will be tryed by himself he told some it was for Scotland he told others it was for England and why you should believe his telling on one side more than on the other side I know not though he pretends a reason of his several allegations that the world should not know his design but if you will not believe him one way why should-he be believed the other way and if not the other way why the first way For the Second Several persons were present when the words were spoken touching the Irish Army and they were examined and remember not the words but one man may hear though twenty do not hear and this is no contradiction at all for those persons whom he examined the Lord Treasurer Marquis Hamilton my Lord Cottington did not hear the words that are proved by two Witnesses concerning the Kings being loose and absolved from Rules of Government and if they did not hear those words no marvel they did not hear the other and therefore that which he himself pretends to be a convincing testimony is nothing at all so that his objections are clearly taken away and the single testimony fortified with testimonies that make above one witness and so the words are fully proved But to fortify the whole I shall handle all these Articles together This design to subvert the Law and to exercise an Arbitrary Power above the Law in this Kingdom will upon the proofs putting them all together and not taking them in pieces as my Lord of Strafford hath done appear to have been harboured in his thoughts and setled in his heart long before it was executed You see what his Counsels were That the King having tryed the affections of his People was loose and absolved from all Rules of Government and might do every thing that power would admit and His Majesty had tryed all ways and was refused and should be acquitted of God and Man and had an Army in Ireland wherewith if he pleased he might reduce this Kingdom so there must be a trial of his People for Supply that is denyed which must be interpreted a Defection by refusal and this refusal must give advantage of necessity and this necessity must be an advantage to use his Prerogative against the Rule of the Law and consent of the People this is his advice which shews that this very thing that happened did harbour in his thoughts long before the breach of the Parliament and the occasion of the Army Your Lordships have heard it confessed by himself That before this last advice he had advised the calling of a Parliament To the Parliament a proposition of Twelve Subsidies was made for supply and which may be spoken with great assurance before they had consulted or given any resolution to that proposition the Parliament was dissolved upon a Supposal that the Supply was denied Now that this was pre-designed by my Lord of Strafford himself I beseech you observe these things following that is The words in the Two and Twentieth Article That His Majesty was first to try the Parliament and if that did not supply him then he would serve the King any other way His words are proved by Mr. Treasurer That if the Parliament supplyed him not he would serve him any other way and this is before the Parliament set now if your Lordships hear the proofs of my Lord Primate which my Lord of Strafford slights taking it singly my Lord Primate before the Parliament was called when my Lord of Strafford was in Ireland and not yet come into this Kingdom testifies my Lords saying That if the Parliament will not supply His Majesty the King was acquitted before God and Man if he took some other course to supply himself though against the will of the Subjects I beseech your Lordships observe how he prophesies these things must come to pass and advised them accordingly My Lord Conway testifies that before the Parliament sate my Lord of Strafford said that if the Parliament would not supply His Majesty the King was acquitted before God and Man if he took another course to supply himself though it were
Affections therein and shall desire you to frame your Councels and to give such Expedition to the Work as the Nature thereof and the pressures in point of Time requires and whereof you are put in Mind by the daily insolence and increase of those Rebels For Conclusion your promise to apply your selves to such Courses as may support Our Royal Estate with Honor and Plenty at Home and with Power and Reputation abroad is that which We have ever promised Our Self both from your Loyalties and Affections and also for what We have already done and shall daily go adding unto for the Comfort and Happiness of Our People His Majesties Declaration to all His Loving SUBJECTS Published with the advice of His Privy-Council ALthough We do not believe that Our House of Commons intended by their Remonstrance of the State of the Kingdom to put Vs to any Apology either for Our past or present Actions Notwithstanding since they have thought it so very necessary upon their Observation of the present Distemper to publish the same for the satisfaction of all Our Loving Subjects We have thought it very suitable to the duty of Our place with which God hath trusted Vs to do Our part to so good a Work in which We shall not think it below our Kingly Dignity to descend to any particular which may compose and settle the Affections of Our meanest Subjects since we are so conscious to Our Self of such Vpright Intentions and Endeavours and only of such for which We give God thanks for the Peace and Happiness of Our Kingdom in which the prosperity of Our Subjects must be included that We wish from Our bears that even Our most Secret thoughts were published to their View and Examination Though We must confess We cannot but be very sorry in this Conjuncture of time when the unhappiness of this Kingdom is so generally understood abroad there should be such a necessity of publishing so many particulars from which We pray no inconveniencies may ensue that were not intended We shall in few words pass over that part of the Narrative wherein the Misfortunes of this Kingdom from Our first entring to the Crown to the beginning of this Parliament are remembred in so sensible Expressions And that other which acknowledgeth the many good Laws passed by Our Grace and Favour this Parliament for the Security of Our People of which We shall only say thus much That as We have not refused to pass any Bill presented to Vs by Our Parliament for redress of those Grievances mentioned in the Remonstrance so We have not had a greater Motive for the passing those Laws then Our own Resolution grounded upon Our Observation and understanding the State of Our Kingdom to have freed Our Subjects for the future from those Pressures which were grievous to them if those Laws had not been propounded which therefore We shall as inviolably maintain as We look to have Our own Rights preserved not doubting but all Our Loving Subjects will look on those Remedies with that full gratitude and affection that even the memory of what they have formerly undergone by the Accidents and Necessities of those Times will not be unpleasant to them And possibly in a Pious Sence of Gods Blessing upon this Nation how little share soever We shall have of the acknowledgment they will confess they have enjoyed a great measure of Happiness even these last sixteen years both in Peace and Plenty not only comparatively in respect of their Neighbours but even of those times which were justly accounted Fortunate The Fears and Jealousies which may make some Impression in the minds of Our People We will suppose may be of two sorts either for Religion or Liberty and their civil Interests The Fears for Religion may haply be not only as Ours here Established may be invaded by the Romish Party but as it is accompanied with some Ceremonies at which some tender Consciences really are or pretend to be Scandalized for of any other which have been used without any legal Warrant or Injunction and already are or speedily may be abolished we shall not speak Concerning Religion as there may be any suspicion of favour or inclination to the Papists We are willing to Declare to all the World That as We have been from Our Child-hood brought up in and practised the Religion now Established in this Kingdom so it is well known We have not contented simply with the Principles of Our Education given a good proportion of Our time and pains to the Examination of the Grounds of this Religion as it is different from that of Rome and are from our Soul so fully satisfied and assured that it is the most pure and agreeable to the Sacred Word of God of any Religion now practised in the Christian World That as We believe We can maintain the same by unanswerable Reasons so We hope We should readily Seal to it by the Effusion of Our Blood if it pleased God to call Vs to that Sacrifice And therefore nothing can be so acceptable unto Vs as any proposition which may contribute to the advancement of it here or the propagation of it abroad being the only means to draw down a Blessing from God upon Our Selves and this Nation And We have been extreamly unfortunate if this profession of Ours be wanting to Our People Our constant practice in Our own Person having always been without ostentation as much to the Evidence of Our Care and Duty herein as We could possibly tell how to express For differences amongst Our Selves for matters indifferent in their own Nature concerning Religion We shall in tenderness to any number of Our Loving Subjects very willingly comply with the advice of Our Parliament that some Law may be made for the exemption of tender Consciences from punishment or prosecution for such Ceremonies and in such cases which by the judgment of most Men are held to be matters indifferent and of some to be absolutely unlawful Provided that this ease be attempted and pursued with that modesty temper and submission that in the mean time the peace and quiet of the Kingdom be not disturbed the decency and comeliness of Gods Service discountenanced nor the Pious Sober and Devout actions of those Reverend Persons who were the first Labourers in the blessed Reformation or of that time be scandal'd and defamed For We cannot without grief of heart and without some Tax upon Our Self and Our Ministers for the not Execution of Our Laws look upon the bold Licence of some Men in Printing of Pamphlets in Preaching and Printing of Sermons so full of bitterness and malice against the present Government against the Laws Established so full of Sedition against Our Self and the peace of the Kingdom that we are many times amazed to consider by what Eyes these things are seen and by what Ears they are heard And therefore We have good cause to Command as We have done and hereby do all Our Judges and Ministers of Justice
Our Attorney and Sollicitor General and the rest of Our Learned Councel to proceed with all speed against such and their Abettors who either by writing or words have so boldly and maliciously violated the Laws disturbed the Peace of the Common-wealth and as much as in them lies shaken the very Foundation upon which that peace and happiness is Founded and Constituted And we doubt not but all Our Loving Subjects will be very sensible that this busie virulent demeanour is a fit Prologue to nothing but Confusion and if not very Seasonably punished and prevented will not only be a blemish to that wholsome accommodation We intend but an unspeakable Scandal and Imputation even upon the Profession and Religion of this Our Kingdom of England Concerning the Civil Liberties and Interest of Our Subjects We shall need to say the less having erected so many lasting Monuments of Our Princely and Fatherly Care of Our People in whose many excellent Laws passed by Vs this Parliament which in truth with very much Content to Our Self We conceive to be so large and ample that very many sober Men have very little left to wish for We understood well the Right and Pretences of Right We departed from in the consenting to the Bills of the Triennial Parliament for the continuance of this present Parliament and in the preamble to the Bill of Tunnage and Poundage the Matter of which having begot so many Disturbances in late Parliaments We were willing to remove that no Interest of Ours might hereafter break that Correspondence abundantly contenting Our Self with an Assurance which We still have that We should be repaired and supplied by a just proportion of Confidence Bounty and Obedience of Our People In the Bills for the taking away the High Commission and Star-Chamber Courts We believed We had given that real Satisfaction that all Jealousies and Apprehensions of Abitrary Pressures under the Civil or Ecclesiastical State would easily have been abandoned especially when they saw all possible Doubts secured by the Visitation of a Triennial Parliament These and others of no mean Consideration We had rather should be valued in the Hearts and Affections of Our People then in any mention of Our own not doubting but as We have taken all these Occasions to render their Condition most comfortable and happy so they will always in a grateful and dutiful relation be ready with equal tenderness and alacrity to advance Our Rights and preserve Our Honor upon which their own Security and Subsistence so much depends And We will be so careful that no particular shall be Presented unto Vs for the Compleating and Establishing that Security to which We will not with the same readiness contribute Our best Assistance If these Resolutions be the Effects of Our present Councels and We take God to witness that they are such and that all Our loving Subjects may confidently expect the benefit of them from Vs Certainly no ill Design upon the Publick can accompany such Resolution neither will there be greater Cause of suspition of any Persons preferred by Vs to degrees of Honor and Places of Trust and Imployment since this Parliament And We must confess That amongst Our Misfortunes We reckon it not the least That having not retained in Our Service nor protected any one Person against whom Our Parliament hath excepted during the whole sitting of it and having in all that time scarce vouchsafed to any Man an instance of Our Grace and Favor but to such who were under some eminent Character of Estimation among Our People there should so soon be any mis-understanding or jealousy of their Fidelity and Vprightness especially in a time when We take all Occasions to declare That We conceive Our Self only capable of being served by Honest Men and in honest Ways However if in Truth We have bin mistaken in such Our Election the Particular shall be no sooner discovered to Vs either by Our own Observation or other certain Information then We will leave them to publick Justice under the Marks of Our Displeasure If notwithstanding this any Malignant Party shall take Heart and be willing to Sacrifice the Peace and Happiness of their Country to their own sinister Ends and Ambitions under what pretence of Religion and Conscience soever If they shall endeavor to lessen Our Reputation and Interest and to weaken Our lawful Power and Authority with Our good Subjects if they shall go about by discountenancing the present Laws to loosen the Bonds of Government that all Disorder and Confusion may break in upon Vs We doubt not but God in his good time will discover them unto Vs and the wisdom and courage of Our High Court of Parliament joyn with Vs in their Suppression and Punishment Having now said all that We can to express the cleerness and uprightness of Our Intentions to Our People and done all We can to manifest those Intentions We cannot but confidently believe all Our good Subjects will acknowledg Our part to be fully performed both in Deeds past and present Resolutions to do whatsoever with Justice may be required of Vs and that their quiet and prosperity depends now wholly upon themselves and is in their own power by yielding all Obedience and due Reverence to the Law which is the Inheritance of every Subject and the only security he can have for his Life Liberty or Estate and the which being neglected or dis-esteemed under what specious shews soever a very great measure of Infelicity if not an irreparable confusion must without doubt fall upon them And We doubt not it will be the most acceptable Declaration a King can make to His Subjects that for Our part We are resolved not only duly to observe the Laws of Our Self but to maintain them against what opposition soever though with the hazard of Our being And Our hope is that not only the Loyalty and good Affections of all Our loving Subjects will concur with Vs in the constant preserving a good understanding between Vs and Our People but at this time their own and Our interest and compassion of the lamentable Condition of our poor Protestant Subjects in Ireland will invite them to a fair Intelligence and Vnity amongst themselves that so We may with one Heart intend the relieving and recovering that unhappy Kingdom where those barbarous Rebels practice such Inhumane and unheard of Outrages upon Our miserable People that no Christian Ear can hear without horror nor story parallel And as We look upon this as the greatest affliction it hath pleased God to lay upon Vs so Our unhappiness is increased in that by the Distempers at home so early Remedies have not bin applyed to those growing Evils as the Expectation and necessity there requires though for Our part as We did upon the first Notice acquaint Our Parliament of Scotland where We then were with that Rebellion requiring their Aid and Assistance and gave like speedy Intimation and Recommendation to Our Parliament here so since Our Return