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A91407 The substance of Mr. Pymms speech: to the Lords in Parliament. Novemb. 9. 1641. Pym, John, 1584-1643. 1641 (1641) Wing P4299; Thomason E199_24; ESTC R212659 2,151 7

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THE SUBSTANCE OF Mr. PYMMS SPEECH TO THE LORDS IN PARLIAMENT Novemb. 9. 1641. LONDON Imprinted for Richard Lownes MDCXLI Mr. PYMM'S SPEECH TO THE LORDS in PARLIAMENT That which I am to speake is concerning the ill Councells to this I shall lay downe these Steppes THat the danger that comes to a State by ill Councells That they are the most pernicious Dangers that can come to a State It is usuall to compare Politique Bodies with the Naturall the Naturall Body is endangered divers wayes either by outward violence and that may be foreseene and prevented or by lesse appearing Maladies which growes upon the Body by the distemper of the Ayre immoderate Exercise Diet c. And when the causes of the Disease are cleare the Remedie is easily applyed But Diseases which proceed fom the Inward Parts as the Liver the Heart or the Braine it is a hard thing to apply Cure to such diseases Ill Councells they are of that nature c. For the Mischiefs that come by evill Councells corrupts the Vitall PARTS and overthrowes the Administration of Publique Government c. The second Step That there have beene lately and still are ill Councells heere in this Kingdome and about the King That there hath beene lately you will not doubt when the maine Course of Goverment hath beene so imployed as Popery thereby hath beene so maintained the Lawes subverted and no distinction betweene Justice and injustice and that there is still reason to doubt is apparent by courses taken to advance mischievous Designes but that His Majesties wisedome and Goodnesse kept them from the Heart though they were not kept out of the Court so the principall and most mischievous Designes have beene practised by such as have neere Accesse unto His Majestie The Third steppe that the ill Councells of this time are in their own natures more mischievous and more dangerous then the ill Councells of former times former Councells have been to please the King and Prince to raise up Prerogative if it had gone no further it had brought many miseries but not to ruine and destruction But the ill Councells of this time were to alter Religion and Law therefore more mischievous in their owne nature then the ill Councells of former times Fourth steppe That these ill Councells have proceeded from a spirit and inclination to Popery and have had a dependencie on Popery The Religion of the Papists is a Religion incomputable to any other Religion destructive to all others and doth not indure any thing that doth oppose it whosoever doth withstand their Religion if they have power they bring them to ruine There are other Religions but not so destructive as Popery is for the principles of Popery are destructive to all States and persons that oppose it with the progresse of this mischievous Councell they provide Councellors that may execute their own designes and to turn all Councells to their own ends And you find that now in Ireland That those designes that have been upon all ●he three Kingdomes doe end in a Warre for 〈…〉 of Popery in Ireland Fifth steppe That unlesse these ill Councells be changed as long as they continue it is impossible that any Assistance Ayd or Advice that the Parliament can take to Reforme wil be effectuall for the Publique Those that are the instruments of State they put things into action in good order but if acted by evill men while these Councells are on foot we can expect no good The Sixth steppe That this is the most proper time to desire of his Majestie the alteration and change of evill Councellors because the Common-wealth is brought into distempers by them and so exhausted that we can endure no longer Next reason why we cannot admit of them is to shew our love and fidelity to the King in great contributions and adventures when God doth imploy his Servants hee doth give some Promise to rowse up their Spirits This is the time wherin the Subjects are to save the Kingdome with the hazard of their Lives and Fortunes and therfore expect from His Majesty in a more large and bountifull manner then at other times As we have weaknesse at home so we ought to discerne the Actions abroad where great provision is made and a carelessenesse and improvidence herein when our neighbours are so provided and have such great Fleets at Sea will open a way to suddaine ruine and destruction before we can be prepared and therfore now the fittest time to move the King The last Steppe that this Alteration of Councells will bring great advantage to the King in his own designes In all our Actions our Prayers unto God should be that his Name should be glorified so our Petitions to His Majesty should bring on our profit and advantage to him 1. A discouragement to the Rebels a great part of their confidence is in the evill Councels at home as by the Examinations appeareth 2. Advantage is great incouragement to the Kings good Subjects at home who hazard their lives and give Ayd and Contribution to have things governed for the publique good It will make men affraid to preferre Servants to the King that are ill Councells when they shall come to the examination of a Trienniall Parliament for many times Servants are preferred to Princes for advantage of Forraigne estates Next this will put an Answer into the Kings mouth against all importunities that he is to preferre none but such as will be approved on by Parliament those that are Honourable and most Ingenious are aptest to be troubled in this kind and not to deny therfore the King may Answere he hath promised his Parliament not to admit of any but by advice in Parliament this will answere them all Next advantage it makes us fitter to enter into Union with Forraigne Nations and Forraigne States and to be made partaker of the strength and assistance of others It will fortifie us against the designes of Forraigne Princes There hath bin cunning Councell at Rome and in Spaine to reduce us to Popery if good Councells at home we shall be the better prepared to preserve Peace and Union and better respect from abroad Lastly it will make us fit for any noble designe abroad FINIS