â—â—bâ—_n 5.7_o again_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o all_o this_o be_v voluntary_a in_o he_o and_o not_o feel_v indeed_o according_a to_o the_o outward_a semblance_n and_o as_o man_n behold_v he_o will_v iudgâ—_n 22.43_o luc._n 22.43_o than_o belike_o you_o make_v he_o to_o have_v counterfeit_a which_o think_v god_n for_o bid_v shall_v ever_o come_v into_o any_o christian_n heart_n for_o no_o cause_n you_o say_v f_o i_o jest_n and_o iybe_v with_o the_o apostle_n word_n 302._o pag._n 302._o but_o i_o fear_v this_o be_v to_o jest_n and_o iybe_v in_o deed_n with_o the_o most_o dreadful_a and_o bitter_a sorrow_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o work_v for_o we_o our_o salvation_n and_o here_o why_o say_v you_o not_o aswell_o that_o his_o death_n and_o bloodshed_n on_o the_o cross_n show_v in_o he_o no_o pain_n nor_o infirmity_n but_o only_o that_o voluntary_o he_o make_v himself_o there_o the_o true_a priest_n and_z pe_z form_v the_o prefigure_v bloody_a and_o deadly_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n as_o good_a reason_n altogether_o you_o have_v to_o say_v so_o as_o to_o affirm_v it_o of_o his_o agony_n 29._o â—ag_n 29._o as_o for_o the_o scripture_n which_o g_o you_o cite_v they_o prove_v in_o deed_n that_o christ_n now_o execute_v his_o office_n of_o priesthood_n but_o will_v you_o divide_v &_o exempt_v his_o death_n on_o the_o cross_n from_o his_o priesthood_n there_o or_o his_o â—ines_n and_o fit_a mity_n from_o there_o the_o sanctify_a of_o himself_o do_v it_o not_o as_o well_o intend_v and_o comprehend_v that_o sacrifice_n on_o the_o cross_n as_o that_o of_o his_o prayer_n in_o the_o garden_n to_o think_v otherwife_n be_v without_o all_o show_n of_o truth_n or_o reason_n yet_o i_o see_v not_o why_o you_o shall_v cite_v these_o text_n unless_o you_o mean_v so_o neither_o can_v i_o see_v what_o else_o you_o mean_v where_o you_o conclude_v say_v christ_n agony_n be_v allege_v by_o the_o apostle_n to_o demonstrat_fw-la christ_n priesthood_n must_v not_o rise_v from_o the_o terror_n of_o his_o own_o death_n 27._o â—ag_n 27._o and_o yet_o h_o a_o little_a before_o you_o open_o do_v confess_v and_o grant_v that_o his_o agony_n do_v rise_v from_o the_o fear_n of_o his_o death_n and_o that_o christ_n have_v far_o great_a cause_n than_o any_o of_o his_o member_n to_o fear_v it_o also_o it_o be_v contrary_a to_o your_o cite_n of_o cyrill_n pag._n 25._o and_o here_o why_o shall_v i_o hilary_n deny_v that_o christ_n bloody_a sweat_n come_v of_o infirmity_n 28._o â—ag_n 28._o or_o k_o austin_n that_o his_o fear_n and_o perturbation_n be_v of_o infirmity_n 25._o â—ag_n 25._o sure_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n for_o though_o it_o be_v against_o the_o common_a course_n of_o our_o nature_n for_o any_o pain_n or_o fear_v to_o sweat_v blood_n yet_o the_o divine_a power_n with_o and_o through_o pain_n and_o fear_n may_v wring_v out_o of_o his_o body_n that_o trickle_a bloody_a sweat_n as_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o it_o do_v by_o the_o word_n next_o before_o in_o the_o text_n 44._o text_n luk._n 2_o 44._o a_o angel_n come_v to_o give_v he_o some_o comfort_n that_o be_v lest_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v overwhelm_v quite_o in_o his_o sorrow_n and_o discomfort_n but_o still_o he_o be_v in_o his_o agony_n and_o sweat_v like_o drop_n of_o blood_n trickle_v to_o the_o ground_n and_o present_o say_v my_o soul_n be_v full_a of_o sorrow_n even_o to_o death_n and_o thrice_o he_o pray_v that_o this_o cup_n and_o this_o hour_n may_v pass_v from_o he_o it_o can_v be_v therefore_o but_o that_o by_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n this_o sweat_n come_v though_o also_o god_n power_n cause_v it_o by_o lay_v upon_o his_o soul_n and_o body_n invisible_a supernatural_a &_o unspeakable_a sorrow_n and_o horror_n and_o by_o make_v his_o flesh_n visible_o to_o express_v in_o some_o sort_n this_o spiritual_a and_o extraordinary_a torment_n of_o pain_n and_o fear_v which_o he_o suffer_v and_o in_o deed_n where_o they_o say_v this_o say_v not_o infirmity_n but_o poâ—â—â—_n do_v this_o nec_fw-la infirmitas_fw-la quod_fw-la potestas_fw-la gessit_fw-la that_o prove_v the_o clean_a contrary_n for_o jdeo_n &_o infirmitas_fw-la quia_fw-la potestas_fw-la gessit_fw-la powâ—â—_n 2_o therefore_o there_o waâ—_n firmity_n â—â—cause_fw-mi thâ—â—â—_n be_v powâ—â—_n for_o the_o work_n of_o his_o power_n in_o he_o argue_v the_o suffering_n of_o his_o infirmity_n the_o power_n of_o god_n be_v peâ—fited_v in_o infirmÃtie_n and_o because_o it_o be_v above_o the_o course_n of_o nature_n therefore_o nature_n be_v herein_o oppress_v not_o exempt_v from_o pain_n thus_o these_o speak_v full_o for_o we_o and_o against_o you_o that_o here_o appear_v not_o christ_n infirmity_n only_o in_o suffer_v but_o his_o divine_a power_n also_o in_o punish_v and_o this_o i_o judge_v in_o deed_n to_o be_v their_o very_a meaning_n but_o those_o other_o mystical_a and_o figurative_a say_n of_o austin_n â—_o pag_n 28._o â—_o bede_n &_o bernard_n how_o shall_v we_o admit_v they_o without_o better_a warrant_n that_o christ_n bloudshead_n be_v to_o signify_v that_o martyr_n shall_v shed_v their_o blood_n what_o reason_n have_v we_o so_o to_o think_v or_o that_o his_o blood_n head_n shall_v signify_v the_o purge_n of_o his_o disciple_n heart_n from_o sin_n yea_o or_o of_o all_o his_o church_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n it_o do_v not_o signify_v this_o but_o it_o do_v it_o in_o deed_n last_o if_o it_o have_v thâ—se_a signification_n in_o it_o yet_o withal_o his_o agony_n may_v rise_v from_o his_o very_a pain_n &_o fear_v come_v from_o the_o present_a sense_n of_o god_n justice_n and_o wrath_n now_o reveal_v and_o work_v upon_o he_o hitherto_o we_o have_v make_v it_o manifest_v that_o in_o truth_n you_o have_v nothing_o in_o all_o these_o word_n against_o our_o doctrine_n that_o pain_n and_o sorrow_n be_v the_o true_a and_o proper_a cause_n of_o christ_n dreadful_a agony_n nor_o to_o prove_v that_o his_o mere_a bodily_a pain_n or_o death_n be_v the_o whole_a cause_n now_o we_o be_v to_o show_v the_o like_a in_o his_o most_o we_o full_a complaint_n on_o the_o cross_n where_o he_o say_v my_o god_n my_o god_n 27._o math_n 27._o why_o have_v thou_o forsake_v i_o you_o will_v ask_v i_o here_o what_o kind_n of_o forsake_v may_v this_o be_v i_o show_v you_o plain_o 6â—_n plain_o treat_v 1_o â—_o 6â—_n 65_o 6â—_n before_o if_o you_o have_v regard_v it_o namely_o that_o christ_n be_v also_o now_o yea_o special_o in_o the_o feel_n of_o infinite_a pain_n inflict_v on_o he_o sundry_a way_n 112.113_o â—â—w_v christ_n on_o 〈◊〉_d cross_n be_v forsake_v of_o â—â—â—d_v see_v also_o â—â—â—g_a 112.113_o and_o that_o direct_o from_o god_n proper_a wrath_n for_o our_o sin_n he_o feel_v his_o whole_a humane_a nature_n for_o the_o time_n leave_v all_o comfortless_a and_o alone_a without_o any_o joyous_a assistance_n of_o his_o deity_n i_o say_v not_o that_o he_o want_v now_o all_o assistanc_fw-la of_o his_o deity_n for_o it_o sure_o will_v then_o have_v quite_o overwhelm_v he_o with_o this_o intolerable_a burden_n but_o his_o godhead_n as_o it_o be_v withdraw_v and_o hide_v itself_o from_o he_o for_o that_o season_n of_o his_o passion_n give_v he_o no_o sense_n nor_o feeling_n of_o ease_n comfort_n or_o joy_n but_o all_o the_o sense_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n as_o well_o in_o spirit_n as_o in_o soul_n and_o body_n that_o may_v be_v all_o the_o sense_n of_o his_o joy_n and_o comfort_n for_o the_o while_n be_v clean_o go_v and_o whole_o swallow_v up_o in_o that_o huge_a &_o bottomless_a gulf_n of_o sorrow_n and_o pain_n issue_v upon_o he_o out_o from_o the_o fierce_a wrath_n of_o god_n howbeit_o yet_o even_o now_o he_o want_v not_o sufficient_a assistance_n of_o the_o deity_n to_o sustain_v he_o in_o life_n herein_o as_o i_o say_v 16.17_o phil._n 2.7_o rom._n 8.32_o â—eut_fw-fr 10_o 17._o â—â—c_n 16.17_o this_o be_v that_o extreme_a humiliation_n and_o exinanition_n of_o nature_n wherein_o †_o god_n spare_v not_o his_o son_n and_o wherein_o also_o christ_n spare_v not_o himself_o for_o he_o undertake_v all_o this_o most_o willing_o and_o yet_o be_v in_o it_o natural_o grieve_v and_o sorrow_v for_o it_o &_o at_o some_o moment_n be_v astonish_v with_o it_o sudden_o and_o natural_o desire_a ease_n and_o release_v from_o it_o this_o forsake_v or_o dereliction_n beseem_v the_o time_n place_n person_n and_o case_n of_o christ_n our_o ransompayer_n and_o purchaser_n of_o salvation_n with_o the_o price_n of_o his_o own_o most_o direful_a pain_n â—â—â—isse_n pag._n 24._o &c_n &c_n â—â—â—r_v 6._o exposition_n of_o christ_n conâ—â—aint_v be_v all_o â—â—â—isse_n not_o any_o other_o far_o fetch_v or_o hardly_o apply_v or_o strange_o devise_v by_o the_o brain_n of_o man_n as_o in_o truth_n all_o those_o other_o sense_n hereof_o be_v which_o you_o rather_o embrace_v
proper_o in_o themselves_o accidental_o they_o may_v be_v when_o they_o grow_v so_o strong_a that_o they_o pain_n and_o grieve_v the_o soul_n these_o 2._o late_a kind_n of_o the_o soul_n suffer_v you_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v in_o christ_n the_o 1._o kind_n you_o utter_o deny_v 335_o â—â—g_v 5._o 6._o 16_o 〈◊〉_d 253._o â—_o 255._o 335_o now_o i_o affirm_v that_o christ_n taste_v also_o the_o 1_o kind_n for_o how_o can_v the_o proper_a and_o principal_a humane_a suffer_v be_v not_o in_o he_o 2.10_o â—â—â—br_n 2.10_o a_o man_n make_v of_o god_n to_o *_o suffer_v for_o all_o our_o sin_n so_o this_o in_o a_o manner_n be_v the_o point_n of_o our_o controversy_n and_o very_o how_o you_o can_v deny_v the_o same_o by_o the_o scripture_n yet_o acknowledge_v withal_o a_o true_a and_o perfect_a human_a soul_n in_o christ_n i_o can_v see_v namely_o see_v just_a occasion_n hereof_o be_v give_v he_o from_o god_n as_o afterward_o shall_v further_o appear_v you_o 248._o you_o pa._n 248._o seem_v to_o stick_v at_o those_o term_n which_o i_o use_v the_o soul_n proper_a and_o immediate_a suffering_n &_o you_o call_v they_o 336._o they_o pa._n 257._o 336._o unsalted_a and_o unsettle_a but_o any_o may_v see_v how_o easy_a they_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v and_o also_o that_o we_o must_v in_o this_o quaestion_n necessary_o thus_o distinguish_v the_o same_o from_o that_o which_o be_v by_o sympathy_n &_o be_v common_a to_o we_o with_o other_o creature_n three_o we_o must_v also_o note_v that_o god_n himself_o be_v always_o and_o evermore_o the_o principal_a and_o proper_a punisher_n then_o when_o the_o soul_n suffer_v pain_n after_o the_o first_o manner_n that_o be_v in_o her_o proper_a and_o immediate_a faculty_n of_o suffering_n and_o that_o be_v always_o immediate_o for_o sin_n also_o not_o for_o any_o other_o cause_n at_o all_o god_n own_o almighty_a power_n arm_v with_o justice_n in_o burn_a wrath_n thus_o punish_v sin_n sometime_o more_o sometime_o less_o when_o and_o 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it_o in_o due_a place_n five_o we_o mean_v not_o that_o in_o god_n be_v be_v or_o can_v be_v any_o 24â—_n any_o as_o youâ—_n serve_v wâ—_n pag._n 24â—_n perturbation_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o consequent_o no_o wrath_n nor_o hatred_n as_o be_v in_o us._n but_o because_o we_o painful_o afflict_v other_o with_o who_o common_o we_o be_v angry_a and_o we_o discern_v sometime_o and_o see_v pain_n inflict_v on_o man_n by_o god_n therefore_o we_o say_v he_o show_v his_o anger_n and_o wrath_n upon_o they_o who_o he_o punish_v nevertheless_o we_o must_v note_v especial_o that_o to_o suffer_v as_o the_o godly_a doe_n chastisement_n and_o correction_n be_v not_o to_o suffer_v or_o feel_v god_n wrath_n nor_o indeed_o the_o pumishment_n of_o sin_n except_o it_o be_v in_o a_o very_a unproper_a speech_n to_o suffer_v the_o true_a punishment_n satisfaction_n proper_a payment_n &_o wage_n of_o sin_n only_o that_o be_v to_o suffer_v proper_o and_o true_o the_o wrath_n and_o curse_n of_o god_n now_o 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