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A02779 A discoursiue probleme concerning prophesies how far they are to be valued, or credited, according to the surest rules, and directions in diuinitie, philosophie, astrologie, and other learning: deuised especially in abatement of the terrible threatenings, and menaces, peremptorily denounced against the kingdoms, and states of the world, this present famous yeere, 1588, supposed the greatwonderfull, and fatall yeere of our age. By I.H. physition. Harvey, John, 1564-1592. 1588 (1588) STC 12908; ESTC S103904 90,621 134

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infallibly expresse the right Naturall and Morall causes of Naturall and Morall effects and being thoroughly acquainted with the whole state and qualitie of superior and inferior bodies of Heauen and Earth and finally of Nature hir selfe as well in euery particular facultie as in hir vniuersall power could absolutely declare the whole Concordance or Discordance of the one with the other and as it were make a perfect Analysis or rather a perfect Anatomy of Nature in hir true and intire likenes Which Tully in part séemeth to haue conceiued in making so very speciall great account to vnderstand Certum ordinem seriemque causarum tanquam ex omni aeternitate fluentem veritatem sempiternam But neither Tully nor any other Latin or Gréeke philosopher either more sufficiently with breuitie or more bréefly with sufficiencie declareth my meaning than the Poet in that famous verse Foelix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas Without which felicitie neither Persian Magician nor Indian Gymnosophist nor Aegyptian priest nor Assyrian or Babylonian Chaldeest nor French Druyde or Bardist nor Sicilian Galeot nor Athenian Mantist nor Lacedaemonian Augurer nor Memphiticall Oracler nor Cabalisticall prophet nor Hetrurian Aruspex nor finally any Greeke philosopher or Latin wizard or other learned man whatsoeuer albeit he should otherwise be reputed equall vnto Budda or Hyarchus or Zoroaster or euen Hermes Trismegistus himselfe as well in their diuinatorie faculties as in their other profound Magique shall euer passe with me for a prophet Signes and tokens are commonly but accidentall and fallible arguments our verie soundest and substantiallest and most essentiall proofes or reasons are the very Internall and Externall causes themselues wherin I would to God either our knowledge were greater or our presumption lesse especially for this high matter of propheticall diuination Something we may assuredly foresée and something probably coniecture as appéereth throughout this Conclusion but in comparison either of diuine prophesies or of our owne humane ignorances and defects otherwise alas Hoc aliquid nihilest Schoolemen may phantastically dreame or philosophically discourse of new Adams Salomons and diuers putatiue wisemen euen in that omniscious and omnisufficient veine but I wis such blacke Swans are very rare birds and true prophets in the rightest purest and diuinest kinde euen full as rare or percase rarer than they as may haply be discussed more fully and exactly at more conuenient leisure Now I am instantly required and importuned to hasten immediately vnto that most notorious supposed prophesie so terribly denounced against this present famous yéere 1588. euen now the onely prophesie of the world and great specialtie of specialties in this Prognosticall veine THE SECOND PART OR SECTION specially examining and discussing the speciall Prophesie of this famous yeere 1588. HAuing hitherto summarily and generally to speak of but in very truth hastily and perfunctorily declared and reprooued the Authors the Materiall contents the Formall stiles and the Finall ends that is the fower Causes of our later supposed prophesies togither with all such pretended traditions or forged rumors by which discourse euery sensible and reasonable man may easily perceiue what slender account we are to make of so slender reckonings as well in the particulars as in the total summe I am now at the earnest and vrgent request of certaine worshipfull Gentlemen and diuers other my familiar friends more specially and seuerally to labour and examine one more speciall notorious prophesie touching this long expected woonderfull yéere 1588. A prophesie not so seldome as once or twise termed of the said Gentlemen the onely particularitie of particularities and specialtie of specialties in this later propheticall kinde I shall not néede to expresse mine owne seuerall considerations moouing me likewise to the dutifull vndertaking of the same argument howbeit I cannot denie but this whole Treatise was originally occasioned by that onely famous prophesie as also therat it finally aimeth God knoweth with what good successe I assure you with good intent as wel in publique as priuate respects Therefore presuming so much the more of courteous fauour I hope no indifferent Reader or reasonable man being not disguised with a contradictorie and ouerthwarting spirit nor disposed to altercate or cauill without cause will greatly doubt of the truth or at least the probabilitie of the former allegations considering there neither haue nor may any better than fantasticall vaine or troublesome conclusions be inferred or inforced from the premisses of such fantasticall vaine and troublesome oracles or prophesies and consequently of all other extraordinarie and irregular visions fantasies traunces dreames Anabaptisticall reuelations Seraphicall illuminations Metaphysicall extasies Enthusiasticall furies rauishments and excesses of spirit fascinations inuocations incantations adiurations exorcisines suspensions alligations characters seales rings pertacles images balmes consecrations periapts amulets sacrifices suffumigations purifications lotteries orizons collects ceremonies and such like superstitious and diabolicall implements togither with their semblable Aequiuocations Amphibologies Allegories Anagogies Hyperboles Mysteries Mystagogies Metamorphoses and other whatsoeuer spritish Sophistrie or hellish Rhetorique But touching the substance and circumstance of the peremptorie dismall prophesie of 88. as in phrase and stile it séemeth more directly simple plaine and sensible than the rest and in fame surpasseth them all being commonly handled and canuassed euen amongst the best in most places of Europe so it is vniuersally more feared or at least suspected and doubted than any of them or than all they togither as being more credibly or probably grounded vpon some surer foundation of lawfull Art or profound science or autentique experience or I wot not what other ancient approbation not to be déemed any idle fansie vaine speculation or forged inuention as some euen of the learnedest sort haue not only imaginatiuely presupposed but also resolutely beléeued insomuch that therupon they haue nothing doubted to publish their censures and like letters patents or commendatorie Testimonials to commit the same vnto the common view and perusall of the world Which censures or testimonies how reasonable they are in effect or how warrantable by sound and infallible grounds of lawfull art or assured knowledge let vs equally and directly consider without any particular affection to any one or priuate emulation to any other But first lo the very platforme it selfe in the originall Latine togither with the later Dutch and English Translations The famous Prophesie of 88. vulgarly fathered vpon Ioannes Regiomontanus but woorthily suspected by some learnedermen neuer to haue proceeded from that excellent Mathematician or any like notable Scholler Post mille expletos à partu virginis annos Et post quingentos rursus ab orbe datos Octogesimus octauus mirabilis annus Ingruet is secum tristia fata feret Si non hoc Anno totus malus occidet orbis Si non in nihilum terra fretúmqueruet Cuncta tamen mundi fursum ibunt atque retrorsum Imperia luctus vndique grandis erit Iwis that messenger or Nuntio or if haply it