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B20526	The font-guard routed, or, A brief answer to a book written by Thomas Hall superscribed with this title, The font guarded with 20 arguments therein endeavouring to prove the lawfulness of infant baptism wherein his arguments are examined and being weighed in the ballance of the sanctuary are found too light : the most considerble of Mr. Baxters arguments for infant-baptism being produced by Tho. Hall are here answered likewise / written by Tho. Collier ; to which is added A word of reply to Tho. Halls word to Collier and another to John Feriby's [ap]pendix called The pulpit-guard relieved ; with An answer to Richard Sanders's pretended Balm to heal religious wounds, in answer to The pulpit-guard routed : with an humble representation of some few proposals to the honorable committee appointed by the Parliament for propagation of the Gospel.	Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691.	1652 (1652)	Wing C5285; ESTC R5188	90,512	112

had not fallen foul with the Scripture and have blamed him that commanded it but you are so wise and honest as to leave out the Scriptures that I grounded my definition upon Gen 3. 19. In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the dust Query Doth the Lord here intend that some men must eat bread in the sweat of their faces and others must live idle The other Scripture is Eph. 4. 28. But you Answer 1. Is every thing a man doth get a living by a lawfull calling then he that sweats by robbing and stealing lives by a lawfull calling c. Answ It seems you have a minde to quarrell against the Truth because the word lawfull is not put in you will conclude Robbery is lawful do not you discover ignorance or wilfulness quarrelling against the very plain words of the Scripture which saith In the sweat of thy face thou shalt eat thy bread c. he doth not say in the lawfull sweat of thy face but that is implyed in the words so when I say in the sweat of mens face they should get their bread it s intended lawfully not by robbing and stealing and truly you manifest your self to be no friend to Truth in drawing such a conclusion from such clear and undeniable premises I am confident never a Robber in this Nation durst to have drawn such a conclusion from such undoubted truth and Scripture 2. You say Is there no lawfull Calling but that whereby a man gets his living in the sweat of his face what will you say then of Magistrates Justices of the Peace c. Answ They are not bred up Justices of the Peace but are or should be bred up in some Calling I am sure the Scripture allows of idleness in none though there may be a difference in labour yet I suppose that less then this should not be in the breeding of the greatest mens children in the Nation to be able to do things of Husbandry that so they may be able to manage their estates the better and know themselves when their business is well done And so they may be the better fitted for their Calling as Magistrates Justices of the Peace c. You say Will he call the Parliament Idlers c. Alas man he knows the Parliament is a particular Calling while it continues the Members of it being called and sent up by the Country and they being faithfull in it serve the Country As for Physitians I question not their Calling that relates unto the body but there is a difference between a Physitian of the body and of the Soul the one is natural therefore needs time of study to finde out the natural Causes and Remedies and I question not the lawfulness of breeding to School till men are fit for those Callings to which they are appointed but the Calling of the Minister is not a natural Calling but a Spiritual and only God fits and enables to it therefore for men to live out of a Calling to fit themselves for the Ministry is a very corrupt and dangerous thing for in conclusion they must be Ministers right or wrong they were bred up unto it they expect a maintenance from it c. Whereas the Ministers of Christ have ever been chosen upon another account viz. God gives gifts and the Church chooses and they are called from one Calling to another yet may lawfully live in the use of both Then you say Taylors Button-makers Seamsters c. because they do not sweat at it especially in the Winter are not lawfull Callings Alas man blindness with a witness if you quarrell so much with the word sweat why do you not quarrell against him who first commanded it But do you not know first that there is no Calling but that sometimes those implyed in it may nay do sweat 2. That the word sweat primarily relates to a mans diligence in his Calling being imployed about something that may administer to his necessity according to the Scripture so not living idly 3. You say Is it so that none live in a lawfull Calling but he that works with his hands what think you of Paul 1 Cor. 9. 6. have not we power to forbear working c. Answ 1. I did not nor do not affirm that those who are the Ministers of Christ lawfully called c. may not forbear working but that they ought not to be bred up idle till they are called and that God always maketh choice of men of particular Callings 2. That Paul might forbear work not that he must do it for he did work His hands ministred to his necessities for the Gospels sake I wonder when we shall finde any of you Ministers of the Nation in that temper 4. You say Is there no laboriousness and pains taking in the imployment of the Ministry c. Answ I know there is and notwithstanding you say that it appears by his book he is not acquainted with the labour of the minde in getting down to the bottom of things Sir I have through grace gone so to the bottom of things as hath and will root up all your Religion root and branch Ministry Church Ordinances and all therefore forbear complaining of the want of going to the bottom of things and I doubt not but that I shall go to the bottom of your Book too before I have ended But you say he adds Breeding to School is proper to children when they cannot labour to fit them for some Calling You pretend That Infants are able to labour almost assoon as they are able to go to School c. Answ 1. If you were not ignorant at best or envious you might understand that Infants are not able to labour in their Callings assoon as able to go to School and I dare affirm that there is time enough for children to get Learning to fit them for any Calling in this Nation before they have ability of body to perform it I do not judge children sufficiently capable in body for a Calling untill 14. years of Age and here is time enough for children to get Learning as for Universities we read of none in Scripture and Simson in his History of the Church saith that Clemens Alexandrinus and Pantenus were the Authors of Universities and Colledges p. 259. 2. I say That children may be fit for some Callings before they be for others and according as the Calling is unto which they are intended may their Parents give the time of breeding them some more and some less untill fit and able to manage that Calling unto which they are appointed yet all this makes nothing at all for the breeding up of Ministers unless you will make a Trade of it which I perceive is the great Work you are about When men are thus bred up and fitted for and imployed in some lawfull Calling if God now manifest his Son to and in such a one inabling him to the Work of the Lord in his own heart and in

same as is said of the child 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but now are they holy so that first you say holiness is never used in all the Scripture for legitimation but generally for things separated to Gods service yet here you confess holiness is attributed to the unbeliever upon the Marriage account in way of Marriage he is sanctified c. And the Infants or children are sanctified with the same sanctification in the same way and this I take to be the jenuine signification of this Scripture I shall now give my reasons for it 1. There is no such thing in the Gospel as an external federal holiness it s a meer invention of man as I have often cleared 2. This interpretation viz. That they were lawfully begotten 1. reacheth the thing in hand most sutable for as Mr. Hall confesseth the Apostle is giving satisfaction to them concerning a scruple or doubt about mixed Marriages from Ezra 10. 2 3. Nehem. 13 23. And he satisfieth them that the Believer need not put away the unbeliever as the Jew did the Heathen for God had sanctified the unbeliever to the believer else were your children unclean that is your children must depart as those did Ezra 10. and Neh. 13. But now are they holy that is holy as the unbeliever is holy sanctified as the unbelieving husband is sanctified This is sutable to the thing in hand they are sanctified as every creature of God is sanctified to the believer 1 Tim. 4. 5. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 it is sanctified by the word and prayer so is the unbeliever and children sanctified to the believer that he may comfortably injoy them 3. It can be no other sanctification then that of the unbeliever and that is granted by Tho Hall to be but a Marriage-Sanctification and the childes holiness can be no other for it flows from it the unbeliever is sanctified else were your children unclean but now are they holy He doth not say the Believer is sanctified else they were unclean and that must have been the words to have made any thing for your federal holiness but the unbeliever is sanctified c. It being thus cleared that the holiness of the childe flows from the Sanctification of the unbeliever then its the same with the unbeliever but it flows from it therefore one with it and this is concluded that a cause cannot produce a more excellent effect then it self the unbeliever he is sanctified saith Tho. Hall in way of marriage then I suppose its clear that the childs sanctification flowing from hence can be but of the same nature these things thus considered I leave it to the judgment of the Reader The sixteenth Argument From the many dangerous errours and absurdities that will follow this tenet 1. Then Christians Infants shall be losers by the coming of Christ c. Ans No losers at all for what advantage is it to be in an outward Covenant and to have that which you call a Seal and not to be in the grace of the Covenant but to be children of wrath as much as heathens as you confess pag. 10. a mear cheat a seal to a blank and the truth is you cannot devise a greater cheat for Infants then to tell them they are in the Covenant of Grace yet children of wrath as well as heathens in it yet out of it and by this are the nations cheated into a Form of Godliness thinking themselves in a Covenant of Grace and in a moment go down to Hell 2. You say Then grace should be larger then then it is now c. Answ No such thing the Covenants considered that was a Covenant of the land of Canaan which belonged to all the Seed therefore they were all circumcised as a sign of their obedience and all partaked of the Promise which was but a Type of the Gospel Covenant ours is a Spiritual Covenant of the Spiritual Land the Lord Jesus and belongs to none but the Spiritual Seed and to them its more excellent and more large and as sure if not more sure then that was to the natural Rom 4. 16. That was large and sure to the natural this large and sure to the Spiritual seed 3. You say Then there would be no difference between the childe of a Christian and the childe of a Pagan c. Then Dogs and Swine shut out of the new Jerusalem Rev. 22. 15. Answ And is there any difference by nature think you unless grace make a difference doth your federal holiness and baptism make such a difference doth it receive them into the new Jerusalem when you confess them children of wrath as well as the children of heathens are notwithstanding your federal holiness Do not you by your pretended outside holiness rather shut them out of the new and true Jerusalem and dare you say Turks Tartars and Heathens are all shut out from thence May there not be a time when grace may reach them too And may not Infants when grown in years have the means of working faith and that in a more hopeful way when dealt faithfully withall and not deluded with a shadow without the substance by which means they may through grace come to attain an interest in the new and true Covenant 4. You say Then they are without Christ without hope without God c. Ans And are they any better in your fained Covenant unless they have an interest in truth in Christ and in God Which is best to be without Christ and thinke they have him or to be without Christ and know it And who are likeliest to abide longest without Christ those who are deluded and cheated with something like Christ yet not him or those who are left as they are in their natural condition that so they may have nothing to delude themselves withall but seek after the true God in the use of means God making them sensible of the want of it 5. You say Then they are the Devils children Ans So they are notwithstanding your federal holiness if they do his work Joh. 8. 44. All you plead for changes not the nature but the name a sad delusion 6. You say This robs Christ of his glory then the first Adam was more powerfull to destroy then Christ to save c. Ans It is that makes for the glory of Christ it 's the fulfilling of his will and mind But you dishonour him in calling his name upon a company of people that do not know him nor honour him in their conversation It seems you are an Vniversalian you will have Christ to save all that fell in Adam if all that partake of Adams sin must partake of Christ Truly sir none are like to partake of Christs grace but believers that I know of and this faith is the gift of God Ephes 2. 8. Therefore take heed how you stretch the grace of Christ beyond what it was intended lest you delude souls with the name of grace without the truth 7. You say Then Infants