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A91408 Two speeches delivered in Parliament. The one, by Master Pym, the 17th of March. ; The other, by Master Hollis the 21. ; Both worthy members of the House of Commons. ; Wherein, they desire a speedy course to be taken for rectifying of the grievances, and punishing enormous crimes in this kingdome; as also, the bringing of the attvrney-generall to his ansvver. Pym, John, 1584-1643.; Holles, Denzil Holles, Baron, 1599-1680. 1642 (1642) Wing P4301; ESTC R182282 4,461 8

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of Speech And theffore I humbly offer it unto you to take it into your serious consideration whatwrong hath bin done herein and what judgments hath bin against the Members of this house for speaking nothing but what hath bin for the good of the Common-wealth which said judgments hath bin against Law and Reason being without president What grounds are there that a Parliament which is the highest of all Courts should be questioned by inferiour Courts and Judges as if the Common-Pleas should question the Kings-Bench or the Chancery be questioned by either of them perhaps the Authors of it have nature to plead for themfelves which indeed teacheth every man to preserve himself This perhaps makes them advance that and those Members which otherwise must condemn themselves such things have bin done to maintain their proceedings as not only to intrengh upon the liberties of Parliament but also the whole Common-wealth wherein I had rather suffer for speaking the truth then the truth suffer for want of my speaking Where was evermore piety in a Prince and more loyalty in Subjects and yet what Common-wealth ever suffered like this His Majesty is the Sun which although it ever shine in it self gloriously yet by reason of clouds it many times doth not so appear to us and if his Majesty by reason of bad members may not appear in such splendor let us labour to Eclipse those Clouds that endeavor to stand betwixt us and the Beams of his favour otherwise what will it avail if the Fountain be cleer if the streams that issue there from be not so also I will only instance in some of the like particulars If we look into the face of Religion that is now out-faced by a Company of Seminary Priests who what they want in power have in malice against the Protestant So long as the Pope his agents amongst us But these are the enemies of the Church without it we have those likewise within the Church who can pull down but never build up demolish but never establish the true Church Such are those whom we rearm Non-Residents that serve the Church more for living then loving such as oversway all by worldly preferments and feveralities of Benefices Christ made it the Touchstone of Peters love unto him to feed his sheep and Lambs but these men look at their own private gains not labouring duplicately for those double honours which they daily get What thing is there more against the Laws of this King and nature then for one man to have above one wife and one sheepheard more then one sheepfold These are the dumb dogs the Prophet speaks on that cannot utter a word for God of whom the people may seek spirituall food but can find none Others there are that preach but not the Gospel but themselves teaching that the King hath an unlimited power and that the Subject hath no propriety in their goods These are bad Divines and worse and more ignorant Statesmen who under the name of Puritans condemn all who truly professe Religion There are surely many that under the forme of godlinesse cloak impiety but to teach that a man can be too holy is the Doctrine of Divels The inconveniences like to come and already fallen upon the Kingdome may be justly said to arise from these severall Heads of ill Councels 1. Such as those are the most pernicious dangers that can fall upon us or come to a State It is usuall in this kind to compare Politique bodies with the naturall The Naturall body is endangered divers wait either by outward violence which may be seen and pr●vented or by lesse appearing malidies which growes upon the body by the distemper of the aire immoderate exercise or diet c And when the causes of the disease are clear the remedy is easily applyed But d●seases which proceed from the inward p●rt as the liver the heart or the brain it is a hard thing to apply an apt cure to such diseases the Counsels are of this same nature for the mischiefs that come by such Counsels corrupt the vitall parts and overthrowes the administration of publique government 2. That there are such ill Counsels about the Kings most excellent Majesty most palpably appears when as the main course of government hath bin so imployed as Popery therby hath bin rather maintained then excluded the Laws subverted and no d●st●n●● on between Justice and Injustice and that there is still reason to doubt is apparent by courses taken to advance mischievous designs but that his Majesties wisedome and goodnesse kept them f●om the heart though they could not be kept out of the Court. 3. The ill Counsels of these times are in their own not ours more mischievous and more dangerous then the ill Counsels of former times Those being only to please the King Prince and to raise Prerogatives these being miseries sufficient But the ill Counsels of these times are to alter Religion and Law 4. That these ill counsels have proceeded from a spirit and inclination to Popery and have had a dependency on Popery The Religion of the Papists is a Religion incomputable to any other Re●igion destructive to all others and whosoever doth withstand their Religion if it lye in their power they bring them to ruine these counsels therfore must needs be pernitious 5. Fifthly and Lastly while these evill Councels continue unchanged it is impossible that any assistance aide or advice that the Parliament shall take to reform will be effectuall for the publike We that are the instruments of State may put things in action and good order but as long as these evill Councels are on foot we can expect no good event Wherefore I shall desire this Judicious Assembly to consider of it And I that have discharged my duty in motioning shall likewise joyn with you for the effecting of all things for the good of this Kingdom FINIS