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A17971 Astrologomania: the madnesse of astrologers. Or An examination of Sir Christopher Heydons booke, intituled A defence of iudiciarie astrologie. Written neere vpon twenty yeares ago, by G.C. And by permission of the author set forth for the vse of such as might happily be misled by the Knights booke. Published by T.V. B. of D. Carleton, George, 1559-1628.; Vicars, Thomas, d. 1638. 1624 (1624) STC 4630; ESTC S107657 76,014 146

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the_o whole_a controversy_n pronounce_v sentence_n against_o astrology_n judiciary_n ennius_n apud_fw-la cic._n lib._n 2._o de_fw-la divinat_fw-la non_fw-la habeo_fw-la denique_fw-la marsurn_n augurem_fw-la non_fw-la vicanos_fw-la aruspices_fw-la non_fw-la de_fw-la circo_fw-la astrologos_fw-la non_fw-la isiaco_n coniectores_fw-la non_fw-fr interpretes_n somnium_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la sunt_fw-la ij_o aut_fw-la scientia_fw-la aut_fw-la arte_fw-la divini_fw-la sed_fw-la superstitiosi_fw-la vates_fw-la impudentesque_fw-la harioli_fw-la aut_fw-la inertes_fw-la aut_fw-la insani_fw-la aut_fw-la quibus_fw-la egestas_fw-la imperat_fw-la qui_fw-la sibi_fw-la semitam_fw-la non_fw-la sapiunt_fw-la alteri_fw-la monstrant_fw-la viam_fw-la quibus_fw-la divitias_fw-la pollicentur_fw-la ab_fw-la ijs_fw-la drachmam_fw-la ipsi_fw-la petunt_fw-la de_fw-fr hisdivitijs_fw-la sibi_fw-la deducant_fw-la drachmam_fw-la reddant_fw-la cetera_fw-la chap._n i._n wherein_o the_o ground_n which_o the_o knight_n 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philosophy_n and_o reason_n do_v take_v upon_o they_o so_o much_o as_o lawful_o they_o may_v etc._n etc._n and_o this_o be_v the_o common_a answer_n almost_o to_o every_o objection_n pag._n 19_o no_o man_n i_o think_v of_o indifferency_n or_o common_a sense_n will_v censure_v the_o astrologer_n who_o judge_v no_o far_o of_o future_a effect_n then_o as_o they_o be_v contain_v and_o reveal_v in_o the_o star_n and_o second_o and_o remote_a cause_n to_o busy_v himself_o far_o in_o god_n unknown_a secret_n pag._n 29._o astrology_n profess_v only_o to_o foresee_v natural_a mutation_n &_o accident_n pag._n 30._o to_o place_v confidence_n in_o star_n as_o in_o divine_a cause_n and_o power_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o to_o esteem_v they_o but_o as_o subordinate_a and_o second_o cause_n in_o nature_n be_v another_o pag._n 36._o the_o question_n between_o we_o be_v whether_o the_o star_n be_v sign_n or_o second_o cause_n of_o natural_a mutation_n or_o event_n and_o whether_o the_o study_n thereof_o 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which_o may_v happen_v one_o way_n or_o another_o pag._n 283._o it_o be_v as_o if_o you_o shall_v say_v astrological_a prediction_n be_v in_o thing_n contingent_a not_o necessary_a and_o yet_o astrologer_n meddle_v not_o at_o all_o with_o thing_n contingent_a but_o only_o with_o thing_n necessary_a for_o you_o call_v that_o a_o rare_a contingent_a which_o have_v a_o indifferent_a respect_n to_o the_o opposite_n now_o the_o truth_n be_v there_o be_v no_o other_o contingent_n but_o only_o such_o for_o all_o contingence_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o man_n will_n and_o purpose_n which_o have_v his_o natural_a freedom_n and_o liberty_n where_o some_o thing_n fall_v out_o beside_o the_o purpose_n and_o counsel_n of_o man_n there_o and_o there_o only_o contingence_n have_v place_n this_o be_v always_o in_o such_o action_n as_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o will_n have_v a_o indifferent_a respect_n to_o the_o opposite_n if_o you_o say_v true_a then_o they_o meddle_v with_o no_o 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