Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	body_n	matter_n	soul_n	1,472	5	5.2309	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A81826	Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford.	Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680.	1658 (1658)	Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665	195,819	444

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injunction_n that_o may_v be_v make_v to_o he_o as_o he_o be_v a_o son_n member_n of_o a_o consistory_n or_o of_o a_o synod_n or_o of_o some_o other_o corporation_n therefore_o when_o the_o king_n of_o scotland_n in_o the_o year_n 1582._o command_v the_o magistrate_n of_o edinburgh_n to_o entertain_v and_o feast_v a_o french_a ambassador_n on_o a_o set_a day_n and_o the_o presbytery_n of_o edinburgh_n to_o cross_v this_o command_n have_v enjoin_v a_o fast_a upon_o the_o same_o day_n since_o both_o command_n can_v not_o be_v obey_v at_o once_o by_o the_o magistrate_n of_o edinburgh_n either_o the_o magistrate_n command_n must_v be_v subordinate_a to_o those_o of_o the_o presbytery_n or_o the_o command_v of_o the_o presbytery_n must_v be_v subordinate_a to_o those_o of_o the_o magistrate_n or_o else_o the_o different_a command_n of_o both_o must_v be_v subordinate_a to_o a_o three_o power_n above_o both_o presbytery_n and_o magistrate_n i_o have_v bring_v in_o my_o paraenesis_n a_o cloud_n of_o witness_n martyr_n musculus_fw-la gualterus_n junius_n pareus_n cassander_n hooker_n antonius_n de_fw-fr dominis_n prove_v the_o necessity_n that_o the_o power_n call_v ecclesiastical_a shall_v be_v subordinate_a to_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n i_o will_v only_o allege_v musculus_fw-la in_o who_o we_o shall_v see_v the_o sense_n of_o all_o the_o rest_n loc_fw-la come_v de_fw-fr magistratibus_fw-la the_o way_n and_o nature_n of_o government_n can_v bear_v that_o in_o the_o same_o people_n there_o be_v two_o authentic_a power_n two_o diverse_a legislation_n and_o domination_n except_o it_o be_v by_o subordination_n as_o there_o be_v no_o place_n for_o two_o head_n upon_o one_o body_n learn_v dr._n hammond_n who_o be_v neither_o for_o geneva_n presbytery_n nor_o of_o erastus_n opinion_n nor_o yet_o of_o musculus_fw-la bullingerus_n &_o gualterus_n who_o make_v little_a account_n of_o excommunication_n yet_o he_o hold_v that_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n who_o in_o all_o cause_n over_o all_o person_n be_v acknowledge_v supreme_a under_o christ_n these_o be_v his_o word_n in_o his_o tract_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n p._n 87._o though_o by_o they_o he_o overthrow_v all_o power_n in_o minister_n and_o bishop_n of_o excommunicate_v independent_o from_o the_o magistrate_n which_o yet_o he_o strive_v to_o assert_v against_o erastus_n mr._n rutherford_n and_o mr._n gillespie_n think_v that_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o the_o magistrate_n be_v christ_n viceregent_n it_o will_v subvert_v whole_o the_o ground_n upon_o which_o ecclesiastical_a presbyterian_a power_n be_v build_v i_o question_v whether_o this_o concession_n of_o dr._n hammond_n that_o the_o magistrate_n be_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n under_o christ_n will_v not_o equal_o unsettle_v his_o episcopal_a excommunication_n i_o shall_v in_o this_o chapter_n as_o i_o intend_v at_o first_o show_v the_o vanity_n and_o nullity_n of_o the_o multitude_n of_o division_n and_o subdivision_n of_o ecclesiastical_a

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excommunication_n upon_o the_o same_o ground_n as_o they_o do_v bullingerus_n in_o a_o epistle_n to_o dathenus_n a_o 1531._o tell_v we_o it_o be_v think_v so_o by_o zwinglius_fw-la the_o apostle_n live_v under_o a_o heathenish_a magistrate_n who_o yet_o do_v not_o punish_v wicked_a action_n but_o that_o the_o church_n may_v infl●ct_v some_o kind_n of_o penalty_n they_o take_v up_o admonition_n and_o exclusion_n because_o they_o can_v not_o make_v use_n of_o the_o sword_n which_o be_v not_o commit_v to_o they_o and_o this_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o bring_v in_o excommunication_n now_o that_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n may_v punish_v wicked_a deed_n there_o be_v no_o further_a need_n of_o excommunication_n chapter_n xxiv_o that_o the_o christian_a church_n under_o heathen_n be_v govern_v by_o a_o confederate_a discipline_n or_o a_o power_n of_o magistracy_n as_o the_o synagogue_n be_v appoint_v man_n which_o ambrose_n call_v elder_n to_o decide_v such_o matter_n as_o otherwise_o be_v to_o come_v under_o the_o magistrate_n cognizance_n this_o practice_n be_v ground_v upon_o 1_o cor._n 6._o v._n 1_o 2_o etc._n etc._n and_o confirm_v by_o origen_n justin_n martyr_n ambrose_n and_o mr._n lightfoot_n that_o the_o power_n of_o these_o elder_n continue_v still_o under_o christian_a emperor_n with_o some_o alteration_n they_o erect_v in_o lieu_n of_o they_o episcopal_a court_n that_o all_o church-power_n be_v the_o emperor_n power_n that_o the_o very_a heathen_a magistrate_n know_v no_o other_o but_o that_o all_o power_n be_v annex_v to_o they_o have_v hitherto_o make_v good_a that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o government_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o church-office●s_a distinct_a from_o that_o of_o the_o magist●…e_n and_o prove_v the_o nullity_n of_o that_o distinction_n 〈…〉_o ●…call_a &_o civil_a jurisdiction_n by_o reason_n scripture_n and_o the_o example_n of_o the_o jew_n it_o follow_v we_o shall_v prove_v that_o since_o the_o time_n that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n begin_v whether_o under_o the_o h●…_n the_o ●or_a under_o christian_a emperor_n it_o be_v not_o govern_v by_o a_o jurisdiction_n distinct_a from_o that_o of_o magi●…acy_n and_o that_o neither_o ●he_v h●…hen_o no●_n the_o christian_a emperor_n ever_o know_v any_o 〈…〉_o as_o a_o ecclesiastical_a power_n not_o sub_fw-la 〈…〉_o to_o the_o magistrate_n power_n yea_o that_o the_o 〈…〉_o do_v but_o in_o word_n challenge_v a_o power_n 〈…〉_o from_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o that_o 〈…〉_o they_o make_v but_o one_o of_o two_o and_o acknowledge_v that_o it_o can_v not_o be_v so_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d they_o shall_v be_v exercise_v asunder_o and_o 〈…〉_o reason_n that_o the_o learned_a of_o th●m_n as_o 〈◊〉_d and_o other_o maintain_v that_o one_o of_o they_o 〈…〉_o subordinate_a to_o the_o other_o er●ing_v on●…_n 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o subordinate_a ●…e_n civil_a to_o the_o 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o then_o be_v convert_v into_o 〈…〉_o church_n and_o also_o turn_v over_o to_o 〈…〉_o same_o jurisdiction_n of_o confederate_n 〈…〉_o power_n of_o magistracy_n assume_v by_o 〈…〉_o the_o member_n of_o each_o synagogue_n yet_o 〈…〉_o ●ewish_a synagogue_n have_v be_v always_o 〈…〉_o ●ccuted_v and_o have_v enjoy_v their_o confe●…_n d●…cipline_n for_o the_o most_o part_n by_o edict_n from_o 〈…〉_o magistrate_n under_o which_o they_o live_v that_o be_v the_o reason_n that_o they_o bid_v a_o great_a measure_n of_o freedom_n to_o ex●…_n their_o confed●…_n be_v ●…cipline_n and_o act_n of_o coercive_a a●_n 〈…〉_o dicall_a ●…wer_n over_o all_o person_n of_o their_o own_o body_n and_o religion_n and_o in_o all_o cause_n except_o in_o cause_n capital_a and_o the_o meddle_v with_o any_o thing_n whereby_o to_o free_v themselves_o from_o pay_v tax_n &_o 〈◊〉_d but_o the_o christian_a church_n though_o mo●…ed_v after_o the_o pattern_n of_o the_o jewish_a synagegue_n be_v continual_o either_o under_o perse●…o●…_n or_o in_o rear_n of_o it_o can_v not_o put_v forth_o those_o act_n of_o coercive_a ●…risdiction_n 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