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A09442 Lectures vpon the three first chapters of the Reuelation: preached in Cambridge anno Dom. 1595. by Master William Perkins, and now published for the benefite of this Church, by Robert Hill Bachelor in Diuinitie. To which is added an excellent sermon, penned at the request of that noble and wise councellor, Ambrose, Earle of Warwicke: in which is proued that Rome is Babylon, and that Babylon is fallen Perkins, William, 1558-1602.; Hill, Robert, d. 1623. 1604 (1604) STC 19731; ESTC S114472 318,460 389

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of death and desperation If a man be assured of Gods presence aide and helpe he needeth not to feare So Moses being affraid to go before the people the Lord to cōfort him Exod. 3. telleth him he will be with him and Dauid considering God protected him saith Psalm 23. He would not feare though he were in the shadow of death Then it is our dutie to labour to haue the assurance of Gods protection and assistance which will stay vs against all immoderate feare of death Now after this he addeth reasons to confirme his owne words to Iohn when his word might haue serued alone The first reason is in the end of the 17. verse I am the first and the last He is the first because nothing was or can be before him and the last because nothing is or can be after Christ. And he addeth these two phrases to shew his Godhead and eternitie and that Christ alone hath in his hands the beginning and end of all things all things haue their beginnings of him he of nothing but he giueth the beginning to all things and he alone putteth the end to all things Now seeing he hath power to giue beginning and end therefore he can preserue his seruants from death he can keepe them from condemnation And he hauing power to begin and end all things can giue and begin his promises can end and accomplish the same at his pleasure And am aliue or he that liueth but was dead In these words is the second reason which Christ alleageth to proue his former words and to make Iohn not to feare death too much The reason consisteth in a distinction thus Although I was dead yet now I am he which liueth I haue power of death of hell c. This distinction hath three parts first though I was dead yet now I liue secondly I liue for euer thirdly I haue power of death and the keyes of hell c. And I am he which liueth Here life is ascribed to Christ in a speciall maner that is he liueth not as all other creatures liue but in a more peculiar maner of liuing Christ vseth this phrase I am he that liueth first to shew he hath life in himselfe secondly that he giueth life to others First he hath sufficient life in of and from himselfe which appeareth thus life is two-fold vncreated or created vncreated as the life of God which is infinite eternall in and of it selfe sufficient Now Christ as he is God he liueth by this vncreated life which is all one with his Godhead Secondly there is a created life which is twofold first naturall preserued by meate and drinke secondly spirituall which is by immediate fellowship with God when we liue by the immediate operation of Gods spirit not by meat and drinke And Christ he liueth this spirituall life so that he liueth first by an vncreated life as he is God secondly he liueth a spirituall life his bodie and soule being sustained in the second person of the Trinitie therefore he hath in himselfe most absolute and perfect life And he giueth life to others two wayes first as he is God and so he giueth life to all men good and bad he is the author life in all things which liue In him we liue moue and haue our being he giueth life and he preserueth the same Secondly he giueth spirituall life to his Church and children as he is redeemer of mankind he liueth that we might liue by him Ioh. 14. 19. and as he died not for himselfe alone so he liueth not for himselfe alone but for vs that we by him might haue spirituall life as appeareth Colos. 3. Our life is hid with God in Christ. And for this cause thogh Christ be in heauen yet we eate his bodie and drinke his bloud really in a spirituall maner and they be the spirituall nourishment of our soules We liue by the spirituall life of Christ and that for these two causes first because he hath sufficient life in himselfe and secondly because he giueth life to others therefore he saith I am he which liueth Seeing Christ giueth this spirituall life we must seeke it at him and labour that we may say that we liue not but Christ in vs and that our life is hid in Christ for Christ he liueth spiritually that he might bring spirituall life to vs then we must labour to haue this We can be content to seeke farre and neare to take exceeding paines to get gaine to maintaine this our momentanie earthly life which is but as grasse yea as a fleeting shadow and as a span and shall we not be much more carefull to get spirituall life which lasteth for euer But the practise of men is cleane contrarie not one of a thousand laboureth for spirituall life but all are bewitched with the ouer greedie desire of things of this life c. The reason of this is because mens hearts are not touched with the burthen of sinne and the curse of God on vs for sinne and therefore it is that no man seeketh to be deliuered from sinne to haue this spirituall life with Christ our head This we may see in that woman Iohn 4. Christ telleth her he is the bread of life she beginneth to cauill with him but when he toucheth her speciall sinne then she hearkeneth to him so if the Ministers tel the people of matters of saluation vnlesse they first cast them downe make them see their sins they will but quarrell and cauill at it and the doctrine of the Gospell Christ is the water nay the well of life now we must be thirstie and parched with thirst and then we will seeke for water and we must not onely lightly tast but seeke to be dipped and diued in this fountaine to haue our soules sowsed and soaked in this water and if we could know that Christ liued in vs and we in him by spirituall life it would be a present remedy against all persecutions And behold I liue for euer Amen Here followeth the second part of the distinction namely Though I was dead yet now I liue for euer which second part of the distinction is propounded with two notes the first of certaintie Amen to assure vs that that which Christ auoucheth before of himselfe is vnfalliblie true the second note is of attention Behold This serueth to stir vp attention in Iohn and in vs to a serious and due consideration of that part of the distinction I liue for euer therfore Christ saith Behold Behold I liue Here note two things first in regard of what nature Christ liueth for euer 2. to what end He liueth for euer as he is the Mediator of the church ergo in regard of both natures as he is God man In regard of his Godhead he liueth for euer by the vncreated or essentiall life of God which is all one with his Godhead which is for euer of it selfe not by any other Secondly he liueth for
of great superstition S. Iohn would not haue left all companie of men but that he was compelled to leaue thē then the life of those which voluntarily leaue all companie of men liuing in cloisters and secret places cannot be a life of perfection but of all imperfection man is borne to do good to others Seeing S. Iohn was banished and here receiued his visions we see that those which honour God he will honour them For S. Iohn was banished then which what could they do more to hurt him Yet then because it was for Gods cause God doth most honour him in reuealing to him these visions So when Ioseph was sold of his brethren and most dishonoured of them then God exalted him The same may be said of Daniel who when he was most dishonoured of men then the Lord exalted him aboue all other men and the same is true of all Gods children they which honor him he will honour them 2 The cause for which he came into this Isle For the word of God that is because he was by calling a publisher and preacher of the word of God for which cause he was banished By which we may note that all naturall men as Domitian and the Romaines were and all men are by nature hate all that professe God hate his word they cannot abide it For S. Iohn a most worthie Apostle a famous man for gifts a singular preacher of the word of God yet for this very cause is hunted nay banished not for his owne cause but for the word of God This hath bene seene in all heathen Emperours yea and all men by nature hate the word yet though they hate it in their hearts the same word it winneth them and hath taken place in them to conuert them and to make them to loue it which sheweth that the word taught by the Prophets and Apostles is indeed the true word of God not the inuention of man For if the word which is hated of all men by nature had not some diuine power in it it could neuer make such mē to loue it by grace which hate it by nature For no word of man can make a man which hateth the same to loue it but onely the word of God Seeing Iohn was banished for Gods word all Ministers are to cast their accompts to make a reckoning that they may and must suffer persecution nay banishment for the word of God For that which the principall founders and chiefe builders of the Church haue suffered that cannot be auoyded of them which are ordinarie Ministers Christ he acquainted his disciples with this and telleth them that they are euen accursed when all men speake well of them Luk. 6. 26. They must not seeke to haue all thinke well of them but rather feare if all men like of them they are accursed And witnesse bearing That is for the testimonie of the history and doctrine of the Gospell the summe whereof is that Iesus Christ the sonne of Mary is our Redeemer to procure to vs righteousnesse and life euerlasting Now he addeth after the other this of the Gospell as a doctrine how to come to life euerlasting and righteousnesse in Iesus Christ to shew for what part of the word we are most hated and persecuted not so much for the law as for the Gospell because the law is partly natural the Gospell is aboue nature as to beleeue that God made his couenant with our first parents that the seed of the womā shold bruise the serpents head Now the Gospell is the glad tidings in which there is declared that the promised seed is come and therefore the diuell he hateth this part most of all and laboureth man to hinder the course of the Gospell rather then of the law So three hundred yeares after Christ he laboured by might and maine to extinguish the Gospell to keepe men in ignorance of the Messiah but when he could not preuaile by force might he vsed sophistrie and deceipt and brought in heresies to obscure the truth of the Gospell and to ouerthrow the natures offices and benefites of Christ. Then we are bound to do the contrarie seeing he laboureth to extinguish it we must labour to maintaine and defend it we must labour as much to know it as he doth to keepe vs in ignorance that so we may obey and beleeue it And I was rauished on the Lords day c. In this tenth verse are two circumstances the first which is the third in number is the maner of receiuing this vision and giuing of it to Iohn namely in a traunce the second or fourth the time on that Lords day or that day of the Lord. I was in the spirit Here we see he receiued this vision in a trance I was in the spirit that is I was by the mightie and extraordinarie worke of the spirit of God cast into a traunce This appeareth by comparing this Prophecie with other as with that of Ezechiel who when he receiued any vision was cast into a traunce by Gods spirit To vnderstand this consider two things first what a trance is secondly the end of it A trance is an extraordinarie worke or action of Gods spirit ergo not of the constellation and temperature of the starres nor from the constitution of mans bodie or imaginations of men but wrought by the holy Ghost Secondly it is not euery worke but an extraordinarie work aboue the order of nature a powerfull and mightie work of the holy Ghost wherein the whole man both in bodie and mind is altered and for that cause S. Iohn saith I was in the spirit This action consisteth in two actions one of the mind and the other of the bodie In procuring a trance the spirit of God casteth a man into a dead sleepe whereby all the senses both inward and outward are benummed So Gen. 15. 12. when God renewed the couenant with Abraham he cast him into a trance that is into a dead sleepe the senses all were benummed onely the mind and soule working The other action of the holy Ghost is on the mind to draw it from fellowship with the bodie and all the senses to haue fellowship with God that so the spirit of God may enlighten it with light and knowledge of things which are to reuealed to it And so we see in other extasies and traunces as that of Peter his mind was drawne from the fellowship with the bodie and was in fellowship with God Then a trance is a mightie and powerfull worke of the holy Ghost both in bodie and mind whereby both the mind is drawne from fellowship with the bodie and vnto the fellowship of God and also enlightened with light and knowledge of God to vnderstand things to be reuealed Now followeth the end of a trance The cause why men are cast into trances in receiuing any visions is that as S. Iohn here they might know that the things deliuered were not inuented of themselues but
and perswade our selues that Christ is present in the midst of his Church and withall guideth blesseth and protecteth the same we cannot but be moued to walke as Enoch and Abraham did with God euen as in his presence In this second verse is the second part of the Epistle which is the proposition which containeth the very matter and substance of the Epistle This proposition hath two parts first a commendation of this Church especially of the Ministers in the second and third verses secondly a rebuke or reprehension in the fourth verse First the commendation is in generall I know thy workes Secondly in particular for particular duties in the words following I know thy workes Some expound it of workes of mercie and liberalitie but that cannot stand But when he saith I know thy workes that is the dealings and practises of the people and Ministers in their callings and affaires I know them they are open and not hid from me and not onely know them but with approbation allow them as in cōparing this with the fourth verse where there is an opposition Though I know thy workes that is allow them yet I find fault in some things with thee Whereas Christ he knoweth that is approueth their works wayes dealing conuersation and liuing this may be a remedie against all secret and hidden sinnes The adulterer theefe and murtherer wait for the night when they thinke none see them then they may as they thinke practise any sinne so the tradesman he thinking no man seeth him changeth and counterfeiteth his wares and blearing mans eye thinketh all is well And the cause why there is such fraud deceipt guile and iniustice among men is because men thinke they can do it so as none shall see them they say God regardeth and seeth not our dealing Psal. 94. 7. But if men would consider that though they can bleare the eye of man yet they cannot hide it from God seeing they be alwaies in his sight this would make men make conscience of many secret corruptions and sins in their hearts Whereas this knowledge is ioyned with approbation and so Christ approueth of their workes some may aske How can God approue of that which doth not satisfie his law as the best workes of the most holy men of God being stained with sin do not Answ. The Gospell reuealeth to vs more then the lawe being the second part of the word Now the Gospell telleth vs that if a man will and vnfainedly do his indeuour to please God to obey his will if a man do this in truth the Lord accepteth the will for the deed So Christ here he approueth of their workes proceeding from a pure will and earnest indeuour as perfect taking the will for the deed But seeing Christ approueth their workes the Papists may argue hence thus If God approue thus of men then they haue no sinne if they haue none then a man may fulfill the law in this life and so be iustified by works Ans. Christ approueth not their or our workes simply but in part as they be his workes proceeding from his spirit in our hearts but as they proceed from our corrupt will and be fruites of our flesh he doth not Againe Christ approues them with pardon as they be pardoned and if they were not so approued he could not approue them at all Christ sayth I know your workes that is as proceeding from my spirit and as pardoned hauing the guilt taken from them Now I come to her commendation particularly which is especially of the Angel or minister in whom the first thing commended is this namely labour which is an excellent vertue especially in the Ministers painfulnesse diligence and labour in guiding and gouerning the church ouer which they are set and this vertue is worthy of commendation as 1. Tim. 5. 17. he which ruleth well is worthy of double honour And Paul matched and preferred himselfe before all other Apostles in this that he laboured more then they all Seeing our Sauiour Christ commends this labour of the ministery we see it is a worke of paines and diligence if it be well done and not of ease and idlenesse as men commonly esteeme of it else Christ would neuer commend it aboue all other works in the ministery Seeing Christ commends the Ministers in being painful and diligent in teaching and gouerning the people must be diligent in learning and obeying them But men thinke all is wel if they come and heare the word though they take no paines to know and vnderstand it they will not take paines to increase in the knowledge of Religion And the want of this paines and diligence in the people is the cause why the word is heard without profit Men bestow all paines care and diligence in worldly things and yet take no paines in the principall namely that which belongs to their soules health but if they would be commended of Christ then they must vse diligence take paines in hearing learning and obeying the word of God The Minister must labour to teach and to gouerne the people ergo they must labor to obey and keepe a good conscience and to practise religion And as Paul laboured to keepe a good conscience so must all men learne to know and vnderstand the word and then to obey and practise the same Secondly Christ he commends their patience in bearing the crosse which vsually followes the Gospell and this is worthy commendation seeing it is more then many of the Prophets performed Ierem. 20. was exceeding impatient Ionah being schooled in the whales belly yet after that all things falling not out to his mind he was most impatient But this Angel laboured and withall ioyed in the crosse and persecution As he did so must Ministers labour to publish the Gospell and because the crosse accompanies the Gospell they must be armed against persecution with patience they must endure all crosses as Luke 8. 15. the good ground brings forth frutie with patience The practise of Religion and patience must go together Now Christ ioyneth these two labouring in his calling and patience together seuereth them not first because before the fal man could do all his dutie without trouble with ease and ioy but since the fall we being corrupted can do nothing but it is a trouble to vs and God set this marke on our sinnes that all our duties should be troublesome and our callings should haue crosses and calamities ioyned with them Secondly because as the Ministers labor to increase in the people knowledge and to do their duties so the diuell labours to hinder them and to stay them therefore they must not onely labour but be diligent to striue with patiēce So Paul 1. Thess. 2. he wold haue come to thē but Satan hindred him Now as Christ ioyneth these two in the ministery so in all callings these must go together both in particular callings of the church and of the common wealth First we
must heare and then be called In this last age only the word is sent to al natiōs it was not so in former ages Againe false it is that God giueth grace generally to all men so that euery particular man hath grace offered to saluation if he wil receiue it but God gaue not the word to all for all haue not heard therefore they could not haue grace The second dutie is to hold fast this signifieth two things first to maintaine the doctrine taught by the Apostles and receiued of them secondly to practise the same in their life but of these before The third dutie is to repent that is though she repented before yet she must restore and renew her repentancce Hence we learne that we must not only begin but often renew our repentance and not onely for great sins but for litle slips and defects in grace as dulnesse of heart want of zeale coldnes in practise of religion c. Now because this Church was ready to die Christ addeth a reason to put life into her if she haue any grace If thou wilt not I will come on thee as a theefe A most terrible threatning if thou wilt not renew thy repentance restore that grace decayed in thee I will come as a theefe sodainly and with speedy destruction that thou shalt haue no time or way to escape it Note here that this threatning is not absolute but with condition and it is the most terrible commination in the whole word of God where Christ threatneth to powre out his whole wrath on a Church so as they shall haue no time or meanes to escape it Then we hauing the same sin that she had being dead in security by reason of our long prosperity we had need of this admonition to moue vs to watchfulnesse to restore Gods graces decayed in vs yet it seemes we make light account of all these things If a man had any sparke of grace this would stirre him vp but if this most fearefull commination will not moue vs then the end of all must needs follow euen the heauy wrath and iudgement of God must lay hold on vs and cast vs into eternall destruction where is no hope of helpe for then a man might haue some comfort if after a long time she should get out but he must liue there for euer without al end of pain when he hath bin there a thousand yeare his paine is still as great and as much nay no end he can haue Then we must awake from our sins repent for our sins our securitie dulnesse and coldnes in religion stirre vp the graces of God in vs shake off our ignorance and that because against these sins Christ giueth out this most terrible and fearefull commination Vers. 4. Notwithstanding thou hast a few names Before Christ had reproued this church of hypocrisie now he commends her for a few which professe his name among them But Christ had said before that the church was dead how then can this be a true church Ans. Though the body of the Church were dead in sin yet a few some of them were true beleeuers and testified their faith in obedience Out of this coherence we haue two instructions to learne first that a particular church and congregation is called a church in regard of the better sort and part and those which beleeue in Christ and haue the priuiledges also in regard of the better part which beleeue for the Catholicke Church is a number of men on earth beleeuing in Christ. Now the particular church is a member of the Catholicke Church so farre as they beleeue in Christ. Those which beleeue not are no part of the true church but as bad humors in the body are no true parts of the body so these are no true parts of the Church Secondly we see a distinction betweene man and man in this church though all be called yet some called be dead some aliue in Christ and continue so Now the cause of this distinction is not from the will of man but from the good pleasure of God Rom. 11. 4. The whole body of the Israelites fell to idolatry yet the Lord had seuen thousand which bowed not the knee to Baal What is the cause of this not the will of man but I haue reserued seuen thousand which haue not bowed to Baal saith the Lord. So then his will and good pleasure is the cause why some stand and some fall So the cause why some in this church of Sardis liued some were dead is because the Lord in his good pleasure left some to themselues and to othersome he gaue his spirit This as before confutes vniuersall grace which derogates much from the grace of God For this why some stand some fall comes from and higher cause euen from the power and will of God which leaueth some to themselues and inableth some to stand by his spirit Thou hast a few names Here is the commendation of the better part of the church there be yet a few persons knowne to me by their names which haue not defiled their garments Here he alludeth to the ceremoniall law for the Lord in the ceremoniall law made a distinction betweene things cleane and vncleane not in themselues but by his appointment Now among the Iewes if a man with his hand or garment touched a thing vncleane he was defiled which ceremony signified to them that they should abstaine not onely from sin but all appearance of euill in that they might not touch any vncleane thing no not with their garments Then here Christ would shew there were sundry in Sardis which did abstain both from sin and all occasions shews and appearances of sin though the body of the church were dead yet many in Sardis made such conscience of sin that they auoided the very occasions of sinne Hence we see that the seruants of God be few in number the bodie of the church is dead in sin but a few be so far frō sin that they defile not their garments that is auoid all occasions of sin Christ prepareth the kingdome of heauen for a litle flocke Esay saith only the best part of the Iewes must be saued the rest hardened and the way to hell is broade and easie and many runne that way the way to heauen is contrary Mark 7. 7. Then seeing the seruants of God be few we must not follow the multitude but this sin carieth many a man to hell and to sin when men desire to do as the most do to liue as the most liue we must rather follow the litle flocke of Christ and not runne after the multitude A few names That is persons knowne to Christ by their particular names they be called names because Christ writeth their names in a bill Then we see Christ knoweth his seruants particularly by their names Luke 10. he knoweth all our haires much more our names Iohn 10. Christ calleth his sheep by their names This is a speciall comfort for
The Papist though he seeme to make a great shew of loue to Christ yet he performeth no such thing for he parteth stakes with Christ and maketh himselfe to be his owne sauiour so that howsoeuer he pretend to be a most zealous Catholike yet he hath no true grace 2 The Temporizer he which altereth his religion as times alter And such is the bodie of our people and they are not ashamed to confesse it that they will follow the Prince and change their religiō with the time And this sheweth what men will do if Poperie come againe they may say they are good Christians but they shew themselues plaine Laodiceans 3 All such as follow Nicodemus that is which loue Christ but dare not come to him by day light such as thinke they may heare Masse and yet keepe their conscience to themselues halting betwixt God and Baal 4 Such as are mediators and pacificators and would make an vnion betweene vs and the Papists being perswaded that our religion and the Papists are all one in effect for the matter and substance of it and that all the difference is only in circumstance so they write and defend their opinion but let them pretend what they will zeale of Gods glorie or whatsoeuer be it neuer so much they are but Laodiceans A fift fort there is and who are they Luk. 16. Such as serue God and Mammon And where are they nay where are they not Lamentable is out time wherein men will needes be professors and yet how is all their time spent vpon care for this world The greatest part of their life and time is bestowed on that there is all their ioy care desire labour and studie let them say what they will so long as their care and studie is spent vpon Mammon they are very Laodiceans And such are the most part of our hearers they draw neare God with their lippes but their hearts are vpon their goods the whole heart is set vpon the world and the whole time of their liues is spent in this Who they are your owne consciences will tell you they are indeed Christians professors but lukewarme and worse then Christs enemies 6 They that heare the word and like it but in their liues giue themselues to sinnes blasphemie drunkennesse fornication oppression vsurie some to this vice some to that And euen in this very ranck I place those which professe religion but yet delight in the fond and irreligious fashions of the world vsing the new strange and monstrous fashions of apparell they spend so much time vpon their bodies that the soule goeth naked The world aboundeth with such now yong and old It is strange to see how absurd men are beyond all common reason in apparelling themselues so fondly whereas their garments shold put them in mind of their owne shame and nakednesse be no cause of glorying in them And the modest garments should shew the vertues of the mind now what do they else but shew the vanities and vices of our minds Now shall we excuse our selues though we be none of these not intangled with the sinnes of the world No we cannot We shall find wants of the feare of God of hatred of sinne of the reuerend regard and estimation of the Gospel which we ought to haue so as no man can say he is free from this nay euery man euen he that hath best grace shall feele in himselfe want of care and loue to God and his word Therefore we must with Iob lay our hands vpon our mouthes and say we are vile Well this being so now consider the iudgement threatened lay it before your eyes marke the end and recompence Christ will spue such out of his mouth that is cast them from God from Christ and his Church This threatning pertaineth to this age and therefore we must tremble and be ashamed and repent of this sinne left ere long we be spued out of his mouth Thus much of the examination of this sinne Now of the amendement of it Where note first the fault secondly the greatnesse of it thirdly the punishment that is a separation from the Church Now I will proceed further to shew that euen among vs as well as in other places this sinne is to be found that euery one may be the better acquainted with his owne state And this appeareth by diuerse signes First by common neglect of the duties of Religion which is manifested diuerse waies first though we come often and greedily to the Church yet very few profit in knowledge and fewer in amendement of life and many that profit in knowledge something do thriue in obedience litle or nothing at all How true this is I appeale to euery mans conscience This is an euident argument of great negligence in all sorts Take the bodies of our congregations they be as ignorant as any I know there be some which profit both in knowledge and practise but I speake of the greatest part Experience in diuerse occasions maketh this manifest The second token of this negligence is that few spend any time in reading of the word to search the Scriptures try whether it be as they are taught or not nay few will be at the cost to buy a Bible or if they haue one they will not take the paines to reade in it or to keep a constant course in reading of it daily A third signe is the prophanation of the Sabbath though many come to Church at the time appointed for publike worship and seruice yet there is no priuate sanctification of it at home but when the congregation is dissolued men betake themselues to their owne affaires profits delights and pleasures No such persons can possibly haue any great measure of knowledge or obedience and grace because they do not keepe times for this purpose By these signes it is plaine and euident yea palpable that there is great negligence in the duties of Religion Now where there is such negligence though coldnesse be wanting yet there is no heate and we are but lukewarme Gospellers Another sign of lukewarmnesse is this our religion stands on generals and reacheth not to our particular callings In the church we are good Christians but when we come home to the particular duties of our priuate callings where is religion then where is the practise of that we heare There is no conscience made of lying deceiuing oppressing no care of that good dealing which ought to be in men Al our religion is in the church and none at home Whereas if religion were in the hart it would shew some fruit in our liues as fire and heate cannot be hidden Although I doubt not but there be some of whom these sins take no hold yet there be many which professe that they be neither hot nor cold but in a meane between both and yet they will be partakers of the word and sacraments and when they see any haue care to obey they haue presently the name of