9. Exodus 19. 4. Zech 2. 8. Romans 3 2. Romans 9 4 god washed and clensed and made them his peculiar people and * cheif treasure aboue all people so as they were the lordâ—s portion and Iacob the lot of his inheritance and hath * carryed them vpon eagles winges being so tender ouer them that * he that toucheth them toucheth the apple of his eye and * hath committed to them his oracles so as * to them apperteyneth the adoption and the glory and the couenants and the giuing of the lawe and the seruice of god and the promises if this people now hauing bene made partaker of these and many other vnspeakable mercies of god shall returne to their former filthinesse for their intollerable vnthankfulnes their last estate shall be very miserable and worse then their first which scripture as our fathers before vs so we at this day see fulfilled before our eyes in that as it was said to Cain they are cast out froÌ„ their owne land which flowed with mylke and honney and are vagabonds and runagates in the earth so their estate farr worse euen seauen folde worse then euer before From this scripture I collect these things First and cheifly that the diuell beinge cast out of men seeketh to enter agayne into them 2. That he desireth the recouery of that pray he hath lost that is the possessing againe of the said party aboue many other prayes 3. that he doth recouer and repossesse such as giue themselues to the seruice of sintâ—e and otherwise can not 4. That in this case the vncleane spirit en reth not in alone but with more and worse 5. that the end or last estate of such iâ— all be worse then their fist Nowe what though this seripture be vsed by the Lord as a metaphor or similitude to illustrate and thâ—r thing may we not therefore gather these things from hence or is there no truth trow we in the metaphors themselues vsed by our Sauiour Yf the salt saith Christ haue lost his sauâ—â—er math 5. math 13. 3â— gal 5. 9. pron â— â— pron 728. it is good for nothing men doe not light a candle and put it vnder a bushell but on a caÌ„alâ—stick and it giueth light vnto all that are in the house * The kingdome of heauâ—n is like vnto leauen which a woman taketh and lydeth in three pecks of meale till all be leauened In like manner S. Paule * A little â—auen haueneth the whole lump * Goe to the pismire O sluggard sayth Salâ—mon behould her wayes she prâ—â—pareth her meate in the summer gath reth her soode in the haruest He that goeth vpon coales his feete shall be burnt These are metaphors and yet in them and a thousand more in holy scripture there is a certaine and vndoubted truth That is sayde heere of going vpon coales of the Pismire leauen and the rest with infinite more of the like kinde is very true notwithstanding the same is metaphorically spoken yea let the Disc shew but one metaphor in all the scriptures wherein there is not a certaine and vndoubted truth how can it then possibly be that this spoken of the vncleane spirit going out of a man should be vntrue because it is metaphorically That this is spoken metaphorically hindreth not at all the truth therof And wheras the Disc pretendeth as though I did only rely vpon the metaphoricall place and had no other proofe for that I so confidently affirme as touching the returne of the diuell and seeking to enter againe into him out of whome he is gon he is deceaued for a moste pregnante proofe hereof there is as hath bene already shewed in the 9. of Mark where Christ Iesus being about to cast the diuell out of one and knowinge the aforesaid metaphore to be most true and that the vncleane spirit being gone out of man will returne and seeke to enter into the same man againe forbiddeth him so to doe I meane the reentring or repossessiÌ„g of the said party it may be the rather because he was a child I charge thee saith he to the spirite come out of him vers 15. and enter no more into hiÌ„ Albeit then one testimony of the Lord Iesus might aboundantly suffice yet behould a double testimony of his for the further confirmiÌ„g of vs in this truth why then doth this seeme some strange or newe doctrine or odd conceite not onlye to the Disc but to manye other that abhorre the counterfeyting he contendeth for seeinge it hath such warrant and is so playnlie set downe in the scriptures me think 〈…〉 we tooked into the nature of the diuell and how hestâ—d 〈…〉 towardes god and man this should not 〈…〉 that he 〈◊〉 the possession thereof yet will he not preâ—ently giue ouer all 〈◊〉 thereto and seeke no 〈…〉 the 〈…〉 or any 〈…〉 he can compalle the possession againe 〈…〉 doe he 〈…〉 it not yet it is cleare he will 〈…〉 genâ—rally true so specially if it be a 〈…〉 the vsurper taketh great pleasure to 〈◊〉 in and he also one oâ— great 〈…〉 and hating dead 〈…〉 and much more wicked and 〈…〉 are 〈◊〉 and powers being as vsurpers cast out 〈…〉 mea the gloribus temples for the holy 〈…〉 all possible meanes to enter into them 〈…〉 VVe all knowe and confesse that sathaÌ„ 〈…〉 of the soule of man which he possesseth so long as we continue the 〈◊〉 of disobedience he doth more egerly besett it and 〈…〉 of it then euer he did before and this beside 〈…〉 the holy scripture teacheth vs euery conuert knoweth to be true 〈◊〉 owne experience Nowe why should not the same spirit take the same course presently after his election out of that other part of man his body 〈◊〉 meane seing not only the scriptures but the parties 〈◊〉 so 〈◊〉 out of their owne experience signifye 〈…〉 there was iust cause I thinke to per 〈…〉 as I did and is set downe before And 〈…〉 there for the Disc to condemne the reason among others of the 〈…〉 required of them viz. because 〈…〉 And yet behoulde how he boasteth as if the truth were firmly vndoubtedly of his side and as if he had answered all that men haue to say in two wordes pag. â— viz. that the scripture wee relye vppon is a metaphoricall place But M. Darrell saith he and his frendes will peraduenture be better prouided in this poynt heereafter How Dar. is prouided he nowe seeth And by that time S. H. is prouided for obiections I trust Dar. will be sufficiently prouided for answers vnto them And thus much for answer to the obiections made against my opinions which somtimes I deliuered to the B. of London little thinking that the same shoulde haue bene published to the worlde It remayneth that I proceede to the matter of fact charged against mee in which two poynts the discouery consisteth OF CHAP. 11. How those that tooke vpon them to cast out diuels doe get themselues work and of their deuises
of that booke the Disc might then with Answeare 1 some better coulour haue framed this maâ—â—cious colleâ—tion against me 2. those words are not so much sett downe for the matter of the as for the maÌ„ner of their deliuerie vz. with his mouth wide open which thing impossible to be counterfeited will the sooner be beleiued wheÌ„ it is not onely declared that the boy spake with his mouth wyde open but also specified what words he so vttered and in this respecte their was good and iust cause of publishinge them 3. Theire is small cause why any should commend me or conceiue well of me in regard of this speach seeing it was spoken by the father of lyes and therefore gâ—eatlye to be suspected of falshode excepte my selfe had published the booke for my pervsinge of it was knowne onely to some 3. or 4. 〈◊〉 OF CHAP. 4. Of M. Darrells further practise with Darling to pretend that Sathan sought to reenter into him and of some other his vntrue assertions concerning the boyes fittes and of his cunning dealinge likewise with him that be should neuer confesse his dissimulation Darrell From pag 285. vntill 290. the Disc pursueth his owne shadow labouring with many wordes to convince me of that I neuer affirmed vz. That Darling in all his fittes was altogether senceles this I haue shewed before in my answeare to this generall charge wherevnto to avoyde tediousnes and idle repetitions of the same thinge I referre the reader for fyll answeare to all that heere he obiecteth against me Discouerer Another thing that the Disc troubleth himselfe much with and where aboutes he bestoweth many lines pag 289. even from the page 289. till page 293. is that I should affirme that it was Sathan onely as I did thinke that vsed the words in those dialogues mentioned in the said book he the said Satan transforming himselfe into an angell of light at such times when he seemed to speake godlily And this he confuteth full soundly I warrant you first by producinge the boy Tho. Darling deposing that he doth not beleiue so Then by the deposition of Iesse Bee a sadler who saith that whosoeuer affirmeth so doth lye in so affirming There reason is because of the godly speaches he vsed mentioned in the dialogues Then and in the third and last place the Disc himselfe telleth vs that for the same reason he thinketh that it can not be that the saide dialogues came from the deuill his wordes be these If any man will take the paynes to pervse those speaches which Iesse Bee hath fathered vpon the boy in the said dialoges he shall finde them to be such as will hardly be found againe in any storie that euer was written to be ascribed to Sathan Darrell If now I can shew out of a history of good credite against which theire can no exception be taken as holy wordes and as vnlikely to come from Sathan as those mentioned in the dialogues to haue yet neuertheles bene vttered by Sathan then I hope the Dis will yeeld that the holines of those speaches doth not lett but that the same not with standinge they might proceede from the diuell VVe read then in the divine storie mark 5. 9. mark 1. 24. that the Temptor saide vnto Christ it is written alleadging scripture for his purpose all the wordes whereof be holy And often thus Iesus the sonne of the most high god And againe I know thee what thou art even the holy one of god VVhat wordes I praye you be more holy then these and what wordes more vnlikely to come from Sathan then such as these Sure if the Disc had bene liuinge in that age and present at these holy and divine speaches he would not haue thought they came from Sathan Even so likewise I muze what the B. and S. Harsnet would haue sayd if they had bene by when that testimonie and commendation was giuen by the diuell of Paul Silas whereof we read in the actes These men saith he are the servantes of the most high god which shew vnto you the way of salvation VVhat wordes almost could be deliuered more vnlikely to proceede from the diuill that aduersarie of mankinde then these for being true a man at the first blush might imagine that if the were the speaches of the euill spirit then sure he was not vnwilling that men should be faued wheras the old serpent ment theirby to hinder and did mightelye Kinder the saluation of men I meane the inhabitantes of Philippi for by oft cryinge out in that manner as he did he moued and occasioned S. Paul to cast him forth of her whom he possessed and others vpon that facte of the Apostle to cast him and Silas a prophet into prison so ordered the matter that vpon their inlargment they departed the citie which no question wasithe thing Sathan aymed at in the commendation he gaue of Paul and Silas So that by these and such like examples of the holy scripture we may saflye conclude that the wicked spirit heere spoken of did ayme sure at some evill practise intent when he vsed those holy words mentioned in the sayde dialogus howsoeuer the Disc happely iudge otherwise and his deponent Iesse Bee because of the godly speaches contained in the dialogues Discouerer M. pag 293. Darrell being charged that since the time of the pretended dispossession of Darling he had cherished entertained lodged the boy at his house and that least his owne packing and dissimulation might happen to be detected is well as the boyes he did vse this or the like perswasion in effecte vnto him vz. that he should continue constant and not suffer himselfe by any alluerment to be drawen to say that he had dissembled in his former fittes and that he was neuer possessed with any wicked spirit And his answeare is thus one night I entertained the said Darlinge in my house at Ashby and the rest he denieth but Darling himselfe deposeth it I haue bene with M. Darrell saith he diuers times sometimes at Burton once at Apleby once at Packington at seuerall exercises from whence I went hom with M. Darrell to Ashby and supped that night with M. Hildersham M. Dar. two other ministers and Mistris Ireton at M Hildershames house did lye that night at M. Darrells Also I confesse that M. Darrell hath had some communication with me and hath willed me at sometimes that I should be constant and sticke to the truth meaning that I should not suffer my selfe to be drawen to affirme that I was not possessed but that I had dissembled in all my sayd fittes and so consequentlye that God had not deliuered mâ— from the possession of Sathan Heere is great adoe and much prattle about packing dissimulation and I knowe not what and of the feare forsooth that was on my behalfe least the same should be detected but if the Iudge should call for the evidence to prooue this then come in nothing but 2. poore
concerning the 3 last one word or two excepted concerning Kath Wright which raysed vp collor in this Discouerer 3. whether Th Darling being in the court by the Bishop of L. commaundement was heard to say any thing touching my teachinge of him or his own counterfeyting or not counterfeyting yea whether euer he or any other affirmed that I taught him to counterfeyte 4. whereas the depositions against mee were heard then to speak their their fill so the depositions of the 17. taken by the 12. Comissioners which are for mee were heard to speake at all either then or at any other time before though I haue oft and instantly desired the same 5. whether euer any one of my witnesses who haue hundredes to cleare me were heard to speake either in court or countre before commissioners 6. whether if it be as I seme to intimate by these my demaunds this hearing he speaketh of was likewise according to the vsuall course by the lawes of the Realme in such cases prouided yea or not 7. where he saith we are râ—serued for further punishment I aske of him whether this be according to the lawes of the Realme that we the accessaries if there were any counterfeyting shall thus haue punishment vpon punishment and the counterfeyts if such they were nor any of them be punished at all as if all the iniquity were in teachinge to counterfeyt and none in learning and practising the same otherwise sure they should be punished as well as we and not all the strypes laid vpon M. Mores back and myne And where it is saide that I was by the full agreement of the open court condemned for a counterfeyt it is vntrue Neither was that or any other definitiue sentence giuen of me In the end we being commaunded to stand aside as the manner is were forthwith after in the open court suspended and commaunded to close prison there to remayne till we should be are further from theÌ„ And so haue we done saue that we haue not bene all this while close prisoners wayting when we shall be heard according to the Queens lawes and be either acquited or condemned More then this was not done nor word saide They that ymagine Somers was not possessed but did counterfeyt saith the preface doe by â—onsequence deny the the soueraignty of our Sauiour in that action paâ— 1â— And one of the written pamphlets to deny the work of the diuels and God in the dispossession of So may seeme to be after a sorte to deny them in the gospell Then followeth his confutation Indeede if M. Darrells credit were as good in saying that So was possessed that by his and his fellowes meanes he was dispossessed as the Euangelists and Apostles ought to be when they tell vs of diuers that were possessed in Christs time then their said collections were pertinent Otherwise manye false knaues from time to time hauing deluded the people with hipocrisy and pretence of casting forth diuels it is a suggestion of Sathan for any to colect that thereby the said actions of our Sauiour and his Apostles are in any sort blemished but let them rayleon If Somers were possessed and dispossessed as I trust is made manifest then are these their collections very pertinent though Darrels credit nor his fellowes be any way to be compared with the Euangelists and Apostles neither are the said actions of our Sauiour and his Apostles in any sort blemished by these wordes as this man suggesteth no man so collecting but a man would thinke rather that they be bleâ—dyshed which will not receaue the possessiou and dispossession contended for notwithstanding it hath so great confirmation from the gospell But let them saith he rayle on Is not heere very perylous rayling well If there be not heere yet elswhere there is whereby they shew of what spirit they are And this he doth by setting downe many rayling sentences so termed by him which are scattered here and ther through out the Naration and Praeface to my Apollogye Some of which I will repeate but of the shortest for breuity sake M. Darrell hitherto could not obteyne somuch as patient audience or any iudicyall course of proceeding pag. 21. Agayne their proceedings haue bene indirect contrary to the royall commaundement of her Maiesty her lawes and lawfull liberties of her loyall subiects and agayne his iudges became parties pleaders and accusers agayne M. Darrell and M. More are now imprisoned for giuing testimony to the truth agayne let men beware in creditiug false rumours against those holy men of god who doe nowe or shall hereafter suffer in this holy cause Agayne I would aduise them that slaunder this worke and persecute the seruants of god without cause to tak heede least they be found euen fighters against god Thus we see what rayling the frends of this cause doe vse let vs now consider what rayling and scoffing to let others goe this maÌ„ an aduersary to the cause and great frend to counterfeiting doth vse that so comparing the rayling togither we may the better discerne of it and of these raylers This casting out of diuels is discouered to be but a pure play A Patorne of Harshents and his Lord and Masters sobriety contayninge two principall parts of a vyce and a diuell let them with all their iuglyngs driue out a melancholike spirit out of any poore soule in Bedlam Thus much for a taste of diuel driuers legerdemayne open the curtaine and see the puppets play M. Darrell is thought by some to be such a one that if hee met with the diuell he was able to curb him Is M. Darrell will be a right Exorcist after the currant fashion among the Iesuits if he want the faith of doing myracles he may cast his capp at them meaning diuels when Somers was dispossessed the deuill was shroudly dressed he was forsooth so extreamly tormented by the fasting prayers and preaching of M. Darrell and the rest as he had no leasure to say what he must doe or what he would do but rudely without taking any leaue of them departed The diuell was trickâ— with their conceaued prayers One diuell would haue bene mad at the name of Presbyter an other at the sight of a minister that will not subscribe an other to haue seene men sit or stand at the communion And whoe knoweth whether in time the naming of a presbitery would not haue had the vertue of a popish relique as well to cast out a diuell as to disclose him If their schollers be of the new cut they cry they wallowe they foame and shew the signes mentioned in the Scriptures Open thine eyes then good â—â—eder aâ—d let thy consience be Iudge who is the Rayler There Exorcists for want of worke are driuen to their shifts and like Tinkers walke vp and downe from place to place seeking to be ymployed Two points serued his turne instead of iugling slicks heere is fast and loose as the Egyptian listeth If the resemblances of
that there was no possibillity of coâ—nterfeytinge The end of the second Book THE THIRDE BOOKE OF CHAP. 1. How Somers confessed his dissimulation at S. Ioanes in Nottingham as soone as he was out of M. Dar. disposition Discouerer Concerning the occasion of So. pag 1â—7 remouing from his father in lawes hous to S. Ioanes in Nott. a place where the poore are sett to worke Iohn Cooper the keeper there deposeth thus Being oftâ—ntimes with So. in his fits dilligently behoulding the course of his carriage in them I grew very suspitious that he did but dissemble and there vppon was well content to haue the tuition of him to make tryall of the matter the rather for that the boyes kepers and frendes that were about him were willing to pleasâ— him in all his humors Darrell The true occasion or rather cause of Somers remouing was neyther the former whereof I haue spoken nor yet this latter here mentioned but first and chiefly the mallice of M. Freeman Alderman because his kinswoman Allice Freeman was by So. detected for a witch which could not stay it selfe in accusing So. vniustlly of witchcraft imprisoning him after vppon bayle byndinge him ouer to answer it at the Assises but proceeded neuer gaue ouer vntill So. confessed that he had counterfeyted he hoping therby as it should seme to recouer the good name of his kinswoman and partly to disgrace and so consequently to be reuenged of me whome in regarde of that discouery and the counterfeyting he then strove for and I gaynsaid he hared extreamely so as at the length he could not indure to come to the â—hurch when I exercised my ministery 2. the mallice of M. Gregory the towne clarke a popish mate against the work of god that is the dispossession of Somers and this because of his religion being in hart a papist as is playn in that for the space of eleuen yeares before he had not receaued the lordes supper Now the papists their adherents albeit the learneder sorte of them doe acknowledge a reall possession and dispossession of Sathan in and out of the bodyes of men cannot yet in patience indure that any such worke should be wrought in our church and by our ministery by fasting and prayer performed bâ— vs. This forsooth theâ— will haue peculiar to their own synagogue tâ— their own portusse to their owne Te rogamus muÌ„bled prayers processions coniuâ—ings ceremonyes as else-wher hath bene manifestly shewed To these came M. Morey an Alderman one also reputed to be vmound and popish these three did draw with them M. Hart Alderman and M. Clarke then Maior a man very easy because of his simplicity to be â—â—ulled which 5. assembled in the towne hall sent for me signifying vnto me that they purposed to take So. and comit him to the custody of two honnest men because they suspected him to counterfeyt which accordingly they did 3 dayes after saue that the men tâ—ey prouided to be So. keepers namely Iohn Cooper Nich. Shepherd were scarsely honnest and of good name as we shall heare hereafter Discouerer The day after that So. Pag 178. came to S. Ioanes he did counterfeyt himselfe saith Nicholas Shepherd to be in a fit because as I think certain weâ— men were come thither vnto him to see him who did greatly bemoaâ—e him where vppon I remouing the said weomen from him tould him whilest hee was in his tricks and in Iohn Coopers presâ—nce that if he would not leaue rise vp I would set such a payre of kâ—p-knaps vpon him as should make hiÌ„ to rue it there vpon So. did presently rise and left his said tricks had no more fits whilest he continued there being the space almost of a monneth The next day I falling into some better acquaintance with him be vppon my promise that I would be his frend and procure him fauour from M. Maeior his brethren did confesse vnto me that all he had done in the course of his former tricks were but counterfeyted and said that when I woulde I should see all his said tricks and how he did them The same day I tould Iohn Cooper what So. had confessed vnto me and willed him that when they were in bed togither he should talke with him thereof sayinge that I verily thought he would confesse all vnto him at large And accordingly it fell out For as Iohn Cooper hath deposed So. tould him that all the tricks he had done in his said possession and repossession were all of them counterfeyted Darrell It is very true that is said here of a fit that So. had before certaine weomen and is as true that the same day or day before he had an other in the garden before M. Freeman and some other vpon the sight whereof because of his greuous beating of himself with his face groueling and tongue thrust into the moulds wallowing foming he the said M. Freeman affirmed that he had the falling sicknesse and this was presently bruited throughout Nottingham If So. were weary of his relapse or pretending to be repossâ—ssed that is of counterfeyting said vnto Cooper pag 152. 178. that his desire was to be at S. Ioanes and that so at the lâ—ngth he might be quiet anâ— giue ouer his counterfeyting as is said in this very page and in the leaâ—e before why did he fall to the doinge of his tricks againe after he was at S. Ioanes It is absurd to say that he did thus because the weomen did bemone him for the weomen being remoued or as Cooper deposeth page 193. put â—ut of the house and so departed he was stâ—ll at his tricks It cannot therefore be that he did at this time his tricks because of the â—eomen neither becaus be thought men tooke some pleasure to behold him and for that cause himself in the aâ—tiâ—ge of them Neither can it be that Shepheard and Cooper did threaeÌ„ him that the weomeÌ„ or any other might see that they could make him leaue his tricks and all his knauery seeinge the weomen were gone home and they two alone with Som. in his fit when they did threaten him Moreouor it is confessed that So. at Sâ—m Ioanes in a fit being threatned by Coâ—per to be whipped and by Shepheard to be pinched with a paire of knipknaps pag. 19â— See then good reader 〈◊〉 this Disâ—o crosieth entangleth himselfe for yf this â—â—pposed countâ—rfeyt did giue oueâ— his trickes for thâ—eates oâ—feare how then did he grow we arâ— of them or did voluntaâ—â—ly reuâ—e himselfe to be quiet did therevpon presently leaue his tricks and had no more fits whilest he was at S. Ioanes It cannot therefore be that So. left his counterfâ—yting because he grew a weary thereof and did of himselfe goe to S. Ioanes to be a quyet and that he confessed somuch to Cooper before he came to S. Ioanes as the Disc affirmeth page 152. and 178. And this is the 11. time the
and remâ—ouing from place to place into his body and that he felt it in his belly to the bignes of a 6. browne loase and that it was so heard that he could not presse it downe with his hand which this examinate assayed to doe by putting his hand vnder the bed clothes I Pare sworne and examined saith naâ— dep 15. that he sawe W. Som. lie groueling vpon his face vpon the bed and a certaine swelling or rising vnder his clothes to the bignes of a mouse which remooued from place to place to diuers partes of his body I Clarke sworne and examined saith nar dâ—â— 16. that the clothes being taken off W Som. he sawe in his breast being in his shirt aswelling or risinge to the bignes of a ratte which this examinate tooke hold of and found it as soft to his feeling as a downe pillowe and he thinking to hold it fast it presently avoyded and then the boy said it was gone downe into his legg And this examinate saith that he sawe him at sundrie times when diuers of his members as his leggs armes and others were inflexible and exceeding heauie abouâ— nature aâ—yron W. Hunt sworne and examined saith that he did see a thing in W. So fitt to the bignes of a wallnut nar dep 17. running in the flâ—she of the said So. about his face forhead and eyes and so run about his face to his eare That So. then had such a variable swelling as I affirme such as a reasonable man will thinke W. So could not counterfeite or commaund to rune alonge in his body at his pleasure euery on may see that will not willfuâ—l be blyndfold himselfe neither can it be otherwise except these 11. witnesses be periured and with them some others who haue since deposed the same Now the Disc thinketh to wipe all this awaye and to blind the eâ—es of the world with producinge the examination of on of the 11. deponents and boasteth as though he had answered throughlie and paid me home as touching this swelling to my shame and proueth yea as he supposeth that I will be very angrie to haue thessuper naturall swellings so extenuated The Disc sure taketh me to be a verye impatient man or els this thought woulde neuer haue entred into his hart yet he shall see that I wil answere him without any great choller And first I affirme that M. Tho. Hayes being reexamined hath not retreacted that which before he deposed nor yet qualified the same except the Disc counteth this a quallification as I suppose he doth ans 1. that W. So. did then lye in his clothes which in truth is a very sorrie one or rather non at all seeing in his deposition before he had said that he saw was vpon all saints day and it is well knowne that Som. had his clothes on the day time And this for another that the boy did at that time lye on his backe somwhat bended which wordes if they be M. Hayes his I thinke he was contented to be stowe them on the Disco and his fellow commissioners so to be ridd of them yet notwithstanding he deposeth vpon his reexamination that he had a swellinge in his belly but in other words Indeede I confesse theire is some difference in words betwene his first and last examination and no maruell there passing a yeare betwene them and more and that the commissioners at this latter examination thirsted after some difference contrarietie retractation or qualification framing their interrogatories accordinglie they are the same in substance sauing that in the first this swelling is vrged a little further he depossinge that it was in his cheeke nere the eare root and in his tongue and in the latter eare roote and tongue are omitted which was through M. Hayes his forgetfulnes or els the Disco hath purposly omitteth or conceiled them as not seruing his purpose 2. Let vs take this examination at the hucksters hand and as the Dis hath produced it ans 2. and we shall find theiris smale cause why he shoulde so boastingly say that ther was no great strangnes in the sweling Is it not very strange to see no at his owne will and pleasure make a swelling in his throat to the quantitie of the yelke of an egge which Tho. Hayes being reexamined deposeth ans 3. 3. But admit M. Hayes had vpon his reexamination denyed all that he had before deposed shal that preiudice the depositions of the other 10 or were they therfore periured heerein because he was periured It is manifest by the Discouerie that M. Aldridge Rich. Mee Ioane Pye and W. Hunt who haue likewise deposed to this supernaturall swelling were also reexamined but we heare not a word what these said vpon their a nor shall not I waâ—â—ante yâ—w so lo go as â—â—ay mak not against Darrell reexamynations to this swelling one may therby imagine that they haue neither retracted nor qualified the same The constancie now of these 4 witnesses doe much more confirme this swelling to haue bene in So. body then the retractation of one sole witnesse pag. 213. doth weaken the same if it had bene so that he had alltogeather retraâ—â—ed that which he had before deposed as he hath not The Disc addeth the deposition of M. Craven I demauned what his said deposition doth in this chapter of reexaminations and why he is sett amonge the reexaminate seeing he was none of the 17. first deponentes nor euer examined before It should seeme by this and some other such like depositions of his that he was one readie to helpe the Disc at a pinch when he stood in neede of a deposition for his purpose And here we may note the cunning dealing of the Disc who to make Darrell seeme the more odious and to helpe out this pretended counterfeiting which cannot stand without such flye and filthy shifts amonge his reexaminants foisteth in this examinante of his owne culling 2. I answeare that his said deposition is both veryâ— false and ridiculous seruing the Disc not so much to convince or extenuat these supernaturall runnings which he doth forsooth wonderfull soundly before but to make way to a pretty iest of his wherwith he desiered be like to delight his reader M. Darrell quoth he doe not here say that the deuill skipped out of the boyes thigh into his pocket and turned themselfe into a pare of gloues the diuill may rather be thought to haue rune vp and downe in his owne cosening pate pag 208. then in the boyes bodye In â—â—ce sorte and to the end aforesaid he bringeth in Iohn Wiggen who was neuer sworne and examined before yet the Disc placeth him in the ranke of the reexaminants Finally he alledgeth So. authentical testimony which neuer faileth him and therevpon inserteth these wordes of his owne Discouerer Besides he meaining So. Likwise setteth downe how he did make the said motions that semeth to rune in his body pag 207. in
these words I did moue first the calse of my legg then my knebone which motion of the knee will likwise make a motion or rising in the thigh Also by drawing and stopping of my wind my belly would stirr and shew a kind of swelling The bunch as they tearmed it about my chest was by the thrusting out of my breast Likewise my secret swelling did make the end of my windpipe to mooue and to shew greater then vsuall it is Again my moouing of my Iawes one bunch was eaâ—ly made in the side of my cheke neare my eare And about the middle of of my cheke with the end of my tonge thrust against it these motions by practise I would make a very fast on after another so as there might easilye seeme to be a running in my body of some thing from place to place Darrell I desire euery on to consider whethrr any of the children of men admitt ther had bene no other swelling or motions then this beast confesseth can mak these motions here specified who can moue the calfe of his legg without mouing or shaking his whole legge and so I might proceed on to some other motions 2. wher pretence is made that som swellings were made by So. his tongue specially in his face I answeere that his tongue could not make that swelling vnder his eare root much lesse that which was in his forhead and least of all thrust out his eyes and cause ablacknes of them But I demaund how he made that sewlling in his feete remo vuing from toe to toe it was not with his tonge sure he did that Discouerer The Disc procedeth Furthermore on Rich. Mee did depose before the said Commissioners pag 216. Richard Mâ—â— that he had sene W. Somers stand and turne his face directly backward not mouing his body and that his eyes were as great as beasts eyes and that his tongue would be thurst out of his head to the bignes of a Calves tongue But let vs see what the said Mee hath deposed vpon his reexamination Wheras I haue bene conceiued to say and sware as is before expressed my meaning was is saith he that he the said So. turned his face agood way towards his shoulder not otherwis likewis my meaning was is that his eyes were somwhat gogling out but otherwise no more then ordinary And thirdly my meaning was and is that by reason it was candle light when I saw his tongue thurst out and by reason of my conceit of the strangnes of So. troubles before I saw him his tongue being thrust out it seemed somwhat bigger then if So. had bene well I should haue thought it to haue bene Darrell Rich. Mee did depose to about 11 seuerall things non of which can possible be done by art dep 13. as appeareth by his deposition in print now being reexamined I trust of them all he hath only minsed that he said of the bignes of So. eyes tongue turning of his face directly backward which we regard not at all as beiÌ„g of no such momeÌ„t doth the Disco thinke by this trifling of his that he hath answeared all that Rich. Mee hath deposed concerning So. he hath done nothing lesse Mee his reexamination sheeweth some little frailtie but overthroweth not his first deposition Yea his relenting no more all circumstances considered doth rather strengthen his former depositioÌ„ then his qualification weaken it And this I say of Rich. Mee is to be vuderstod likewise of Ioane Pye whose deposition contayning in it 14. impossible things to be done by So. or any sonne of Adam the Disc answeareth Ioane Pye with telling vs she was reexamined and of her qualifyng vpon her reexminatioÌ„ one a sole impossibility of the 14. pag 216 But he must know as is aforsaide that besides these haue not retracted theire first depositions sundrie others also togeather with them haue deposed the same thinges which their retractation much lesse these sory qualifications of theirs can not conuince or disproue And here we may againe obserue the deceite of the Disc who mentioning scarclye the 10. part of Rich. Mee and 20. of Ioane Pies depositions pretendeth to the ignorante reader as though he had set downe all that they at the first time deposed with their full answears at their reexaminations Besides the formers Henry 〈…〉 pa◠〈◊〉 217. the Disc produceth Henâ—y Nussey Rich. Newton and Wil. Huâ—â— who hauing before deposed the two first to Sâ—m speaking with hi◠〈◊〉 whâ—e open the third with his mouth shut close being reexamined Henry â—ussâ— hath qualified the other two retracted or denied that the had before deposed if the Disâ— haue set downe their reexaminations truly This periurie of theirs the Disc calleth the qualifâ—ing of their former depositions interpretations of their mâ—â—ning pag 211 But if men maâ— be admitted so to expound theire owne wordes we shall neuer haue any periured nor punished for periurie to the end of the world notwithstanding I answeare Seeing the Commissioners that examined did as I am informed and doe verilie beleiue threaten their examinats sometimes with hauing them before the Lâ— of London somtimes with imprisonment before their eyes commaunded Henry Butler by name to prison it is no maruell though amonge many some fraile men were found that would rather resent either in part or in whole from that which in their consciences they knew to be true then hazard and in danger themselues they knewe not to what punishment and trouble Stronger men then they haue done as much in the like case we all know how shamfully that notable Apostle of our faviour Peter another manner of man then any of our examinats for feare denâ—ed that he knew the Lord and that with an oath or execration It is no strange thinge then for our reexaminats weake and infirme men as they were to haue shruncke and relented had it bene further then this 2. Let the very enimyes Iudge whether voluntarie oathes wher no profite or feare of evill in the world was like to come vnto the deponents theirby or oathes compassed partlie with flaterie and other cuninge dealinge partlye with terrors and threats as is notoriouslâ—e knowne be more like to be true 3. Those which haue relented are but few 〈…〉 and can not therfore in any reason preiudice that which the rest being many haue depose â—which is abundandlye sufficient to cleare the cause from counterfeting and that we disire may be answered offering to make vp the number of these few pety reuolters 2 or 3. excepted with a supplie and advantage if we may be suffered 4 It is to be supposed that if the reexaminations were o seene it would appeare that more is confirmed then extenuated Disâ—ouerer These were the chiefe poynts which seemed most strang in the said depositions taken at Nott whervpon it was thought good to haue the said witnesse pag 218. examined And how they qualifie their former words you see
away all These thinges which make so strongly against counterfeiting are likewise sett downe in the printed booke of Darling and are the principall thinges in it to be obserued to proue his vexation by Sathan against these therfore and the rest of this kynde the Disc shoulde haue bente his force in that course he hath taken wherevnto he saith not a worde and not haue passed by these as if he sawe them not and in stede of them cull out some petie triflinge thinges that maye easely be practised or make a shewe of a possibillitie to be counterfeited as namely the speches vttered by the tongue of Darlinge dialogue wise and his apparitiones of a Catt a Dragon a Beare Lightnings Thundring a Lambe a Doue etc. which though I am assured that Darling did not counterfeit yet it is euident that it is no harde matter to counterfeite and dissemble the same and more if one were so lewdly giuen and the world will easilie be drawen to beleiue a practice in such small and slighte matters as these when it neither â— will nor can beleue these thinges here meÌ„tioned to be counterfeited And thus is laid open and discouered the craftie and fraudulent dealing of the Discouerer Discouerer Lastly it is to be obserued pag 292. than Darlinge after he had continued a while in his first pretended fits many supposed and gaue it out that he was buta dissembler as it maye appeare by the depositions following vz Iesse Bees and Edw. Bakers Darrell This is his other argument to proue Darling a counterfeit The verye same he vsed before to proue Sommers a counterfeite A worthy one it is sure and in effect the same with this many supposed and gaue it out that Paull was a God therfore he is a God Thus we see what a blasphemous conclusion would follow vpon such an Antecedent 〈◊〉 14. 11. if it were true when the Disc hath put this argument of his denyed by me into moode and figure and proued the proposition vz. whatsoeuer many suppose and giue out in speech is true I will then yelde him the conclusion and resigne him the conquest and acknowledg both Sommers and Darlinge to be counterfeites And this maye suffice for answere to the Discouerie concerning Darlinges counterfeytinge and my teaching of him OF CHAP. 6. Discouerer A briefe of Katherin Wrights confession touchinge the beginning of her dissimulation and of the reasons that moued her so to doe The generall cause it selfe touching the late attempts of castinge out the deuill is of great importance otherwise it is not vsuall that matterâ— so long past vz. about 13. or 14. yeares should be searched into Darrell There is a cause then wee see of our attemtiinge he meaneth pretendinge to cast out Deuils but what this cause should be that is a secret forsooth we shall heare more of that another time for the presente we must contente our selues with a generall notize of a genrall cause and that saith he of a greate importance It is to be thought therfore and presumed that he meaneth the same cause which he speaketh of Pag. 14. 15 that is the setting vp of the Presbiteriall couceits or discipline so long contended-for by some nehemiah 6. â— VVhere-vnto we answerer yf he meane so as Nehemiah sometime did to Sanballat the enemie of the Iewâ—s It is not done according to these wordes that thou saiest for thou fainest them of thine owne harte Discouerer Katherin Wright being examined pag. 27â— confesseth vpon heroath that in all the course of her pretended possession and dispossession and of her fytts both bâ—fore and since whatsoeuer shee did that semed to be extraordinarie it was all dissembled Darrell To get this confessioÌ„n from this poore simple maide which is all that the Disc hath to proue Katherin Wrights dissimulation weâ— must know that the Commissioners who were sent downe by the B. of London for the same purpose the president or principal where of for sooth was S. Harsnet this Disc kept her with theÌ„ two halfe dayes and a nighte and in the said time threatned to burne her sete if shee would not confesse that she had dissembled as shee affirmed forthwith after shee came from the commissioners bewaylinge her saide periurie And herein S. Harsnet a commissioner was a principall agent But be it granted that this her confession was voluntarie and not extorted as the contrarye is manifest Yet therein is she not to be beleiued because in so affirminge shee reporteth those thinges to haue bene done by her selfe which she possiblye coulde not doe although aspirit 〈◊〉 be felt 〈…〉 cause 〈…〉 shu◠〈…〉 down 〈…〉 was 〈…〉 com 〈…〉 For K. Wrighte 〈◊〉 â—yts did swell excedinglie in her body necke whence it came to paâ—â—e that the wente daylye with her petitioaie slacke laced to the length oâ— one hande somethinge also was senâ—blye felt to stir vp downe in her bodye as if it had bene some quicke thinge shee was 〈◊〉 of extraordinarie and supernaturall strength and of such excedinge waâ—gnâ— that 5. stronge men by reason of her waighte she not strâ—â—ing oâ—â—â—ugâ—inge at aâ— could scarcelye carrye her a little waye 〈…〉 deposâ—ng 〈…〉 est 〈…〉 you 〈…〉 aâ—beit 〈◊〉 were then but of some 16. or 17. yeares of age To thesse I maye add this one pretie toye of the deuill which I doe not see how it could possibly be counterfeite She being at one M. Edwarde Beresfordes house desirous to drinke but could take none M. Beresford him seiâ—e came and called for drincke but as they held it to her mouthe beâ—olde the drincke spirted vp out of the peice to the roofe of the parlour Discoverer And this course she confesseth she hath helde from the time she began it vntiâ— the time almost of her examination vzabout 13. or 14 yeares partely because shee was by that occasion much made of and for that she feared that if she had shewed her selfe to haue bene perfectly well for any long season her â—ather in lawe would haue fallen to his former hard vsage of her Darrell Yf K. Wright haue counterfeited pag 208. she hath theirin spent the prime of her 〈◊〉 from the age of 17. vntill about 30. theirby depriueing her selfe of many if not of all the comforts of this life as societie marriage c. who can now in any reason thinke that a younge damsell to my remembrance of a comely feature and personage deâ—irous enough if not to much of the pleasures of this life would wittingly and willingly depriue her selfe of them all and that for so many yeares together and to such an end as heere is pretended I deny not that K. Wright hath deposed that this was the reason of her counterfeitinge But I trust S. Harsnet did thervnto by his slyghtes and deuises draw her entiâ—e her Neuertheles who of vnderstandinge will beleiue eyther him or her seeing there were more easie and honest wayes to haue avoyded the hard
such strength and such admirable and manifold faytes as is manifest they or the deuill did And this is the sixteneth time the Discouerer is convinced by his owne Discouery Discouerer When Mistris Graye saith Mary Cooper and the rest of her companye came about me pag 318. sayinge and reportinge that I should be deliuered of some mâ—nstrous thing I laughed hartely at their folly and this my laughinge they termed my fite and would cry out now Lord blesse her she is in asore fitt The which theire foolish wonderinge made me laugh more and more and tho more I laughed they more they cryed Lord haue mercy vpon her she is in a strang fitt besides when I had laughed till my harte was 〈◊〉 at them because my strength was spent with laughâ—ng then would the whâ—le company of weomen namely Mistris Gray and the reâ—â— cry out 〈…〉 her lord bâ—â—sse her Lord Iâ—sus haue mercy vpon her now she is in a trauâ—e Darrell VVe haue heard before of Mary Cooper being with child and that after she had continued so many weekes in apperance she â—ed 〈◊〉 auâ—ing wherevpon diuers neighbour weomen among them Mâ—stres Cray being first requesteâ— accordinge to the custâ—me came 〈◊〉 said trauel and how it went with her theirin very extraordinarily in so much as they weomen present theirat conceiued she would haue bene deliuerâ—d of some monstrous thing as is here confeâ—â—ed â—he Disc now telleth vs in the person and deposition of Mary Cooper which I know he would haue men beleue to be true that she did nothing but laugh and this laughing they termed her fitt were not these wise weomen which seeing a woman onely laugh did theirvpon thinke that she was in trauel and not onely so but imaginâ—a that she woulâ— bâ— dâ—â—iuered of some monster and theirvpon cried vnto the lord to haue merâ—y on her Againe it is say de that Mary Cooper was 〈◊〉 and truly euill at ease It is incredible then that beinge sicke she should thus exceeâ—e in laughing Surely if Calphurnius were aliue of whom the Poet saith pleno ridet Calphurnius ore and should reade this riâ—iculous deposâ—uâ—n he would not onely laugh with open mouth theirat but as it is saydhere of Mary Cooper laugh till his harâ—â— were sore Had not the Disc solde himselfe to all impudencie and shameles gaynsaying the truth would he euer haue affirmed much lesse published to the world that Mary Cooper did at her traueile whereof we haue harde nothinge but laugâ— But as the Dis doth here extenuate or rather make iust nothinge of the rare and greuous effectes which Sathan wrought vpon the â—ody of Mary Cooper at the time of her supposed trauâ—◠〈◊〉 hatâ— be doâ—e the like before to his vttermest throughout his Discouery by other as strange and greiuous effectes which the euil◠〈◊〉 in Somers Darling and Katherine Wright sent forth and this is aboue all thinges to be obserued by the reader for heerein principally lyeth â—is â—eceite Secondly as heere he doth this besides impiously very absurdly and in ridiculous manner so vsually before For instance Somers 〈◊〉 I did foame excessiuely pag 23â— it is true quoth the Disc and his deponentes but it was when he had blacke lead in his mouth c. Discouerer You heare in this deposition sâ—me â—ention of the Iudgeâ— pag 〈…〉 whervpon it is to remember vnto you what a very strange and malitious practise was vnder taken to haue procured the death of apore womâ—â— oâ—e Alice Freman vpon pretence that she was a witch This Aâ—ce Freeman was one of those whom Somers had named for witches and is alied to M. Freeman an Alderman and Iustice of peace in Nottingham It is said but vntruly by some of M. Darrels frendes that before the detecting of Alice Freeman for a witch it was not reported in Nottingham that Somers was a dissembler theirby inferring that the offence taken by her detection was the cause that raysed vp aslaunder for sooth of Somers dissimulation The practise was to charge the sayd poore women Alice Frâ—eman to haue bewitched to death the child of Mary Cooper and that she likewise was the cause of the sayde Maries trouble and vexation as haueing bewitched her in like manner which conceite being thrust into Mary Coopers head she was arraigned M. Darrell was one amongst diuers that gaue in evidence against the woman grounding himselfe much vpon Somers detecting of her for a witch matters were so prosecuted against her as had not the Iudges in their wisdome discerne â—omwhat it is verily thought the poore woman being found guiltie by the great enquest had bene condemned to death Darrell Seeing the Disc will iustifie Alice Freeman and together with her kinsman M Freeman haue her to be a very innocent to haue bene without cause through the mallice forsoth of some accuâ—ed of witch crafte let vs therfore see what may be sayd concerning her not that I will charg her with witchcraft but that we may see she is not altogether so free from all suspition of witchcraft as the Disco and her kinsman pretend and that there was iust cause of the proceedinges vsed against her In the beginning of December 97. presently after the discouerie of this Alice Freeman among other persons for a witch by Somers or rather by the deuill vsinge his tongue she the said Alice comming into the house of Robert Cooper father in law to Somers and to Mary Cooper his sister some angrie wordes the sayd Mary gaue her callinge her a witch The night following but how it came to passe I know not Mary Cooper felt a stiring within her belly as if their were some quicke thinge her belly swelling which was sensible to others and the other greuous vexations wherof we haue heard before growing vpon her by little and little pag 3 â— To this stirring M. Aldridge hath deâ—â—sed afterwards she grue to be indifferently well and so doth continue onely she complayneth that she hath a kind of stirring in her bâ—lly But if Alce Freeman together with her familiar spirit caused Mary Coopers strange and fearefull vexations then it was thought that her mallice did not staâ—e it selfe there but reached to her onely child that so shee might be further revenged of her and herevpon this suspition diâ— arise About 10 dayes after the former iarre in a faire mone shine eueÌ„ninge Alice Freeman went from her owne house to Robert Cooper his house One seeinge her and maruelinge to see her trudg so fast that could so ill beinge avery ougly old â—ame woman doe it followed whott foote after her and dogged her VVhen she was come to the aforesaid house she did not forthwith knocke at the dore as the manner of well meaning people is but peepes first at the chinckes of the doore then went she to the window and thus she continued playing at bo-peepe a good while and yet she is no child but a well aged woman At length she
then sure there was somethinge besides her laughing which so affected the women met at her aforesaide trauaile pag 323. Discouerer The authour of the Breife Narration writeth in this sorte what goodly stuffe they meaninge the Discouerer and his fellow Commissioners haue returned time and mallice will make knowne vnto vs. The stuffe such as it is vile indeed his Maistershippe may be pleased now to pervse and theirby reape some profite if he read it with no greater mallice then it was written Darrell The Narrator I dare saye was neither Prophet nor the sonne of a Prophet and yet herein he did foretel that which after cam to passe The stuffe that S. Harsnâ—t and his fellowe commissioners haue returned him selfe confesseth is vile indede and sure so it is yea as vile I am perswaded as euer was returned since England was a nation for what is that stuffe but an heape of false foolish ridiculus and absurde thinges witnessed vpon the oathes of men â—ome few depontions excepte â— But is this all that doth make this stuffe vile no hereby it is made more vile in that this vile stuffe was compassed by the cunning perswasions and threates of the commissioners men for the present and this acte in authoritie and such as â—hold rather haue done their indeuours to haue preserued then drawen the deponents to periurye But is here all no the stuffe returned and publyshed to the worlde is made more vile by the Discouerer his additions detractions and alterations being therby made farr worse then at the first it was delyuered But is this all that maketh this stuffe vile no no all this stuffe hath bene compassed and produced not against man but against the Lorde himselfe not indeede to finde out any counterfeiting and teachinge to counterfeite whereof there is no more question or doubt to be made then whether it be daye light at noone in the fayrest sun-shine daye in somer but to obscure the workes of god and to keep his people from beleuing them to be such because they were brought to passe by such as the Discouerer despisetn and hatetn and woulde fame haue al men to hate and despise And this is it that maketh this stuffe out of measure vile execrable and abominable in the sight of god and therefore ought so to be reputed of all his people Yea if we the inhabitantes of England be the lords people or inheritance as we professe we can not but so account hereof will therfore by al good meanes accordinge to our places further thire puniâ—hment and our vice Godes which are here on earth in Gods steade will take vengance of these traitors rebels against God for this vnspeakable dishonor done to him and this treason or rebellion of theires in takinge parte with sathan his enemie the God and prince of this worlde who in some extraordinary manner in risen vp against these workes of God against the Lorde himselfe 〈◊〉 Yf it be said by some in authoritie that if it may be made to appeare that these thinges are true they will not endure them but seuerely pvnnish these commissioners I in all humillitie offer to make profe of these thinges I doe not sâ—v oâ— every â—erticulaâ— because it may be somâ— witnesses will faâ—le to witnes that thâ—â— know to be true haue formerly confessed and generally of whatsoeuer I haue set downe in this my Apollogie or defence of the workes of God and of my selfe and if herein I fayle I refuse no punnishment In the meane season it is to be remembred whereof these worthy commissioners examined such as were by them deposed surely for the most parte of such thinge as might serue to proue theire foolish absurd and ridiculus cirâ—nâ—stances and to this end vsualy they deposed them concerning the speaches that I should vtter in the hearing forsooth or presence of Sâ—n. And how long before should I haue spoken theâ—e thinges 〈◊〉 a yeare yea some of them about 14. yeares then past were not here good memories that could remember the very wordes they hearde so long before speciallie the same little or nothing concerning them and being not worthy tâ—e remembring yea the iust 〈◊〉 wheâ— they were spoken In the masse oâ— depositions I thinke we scarsly haue six times thâ— worde or any 〈◊〉 this effect and that â—o perfectly as they nede not to 〈◊〉 cause so 〈◊〉 they remember or other to this effect One would thinke it had bene fitter men should haue bene examined concerning the actions of Somâ— then of my speaches and oâ— the strange and extraordinarie thinges they had seene in him 〈◊〉 happenly they had sene any as 〈…〉 commissioners did for thereby only it would be made 〈…〉 out of controuersie by the 〈◊〉 of men whether Som. 〈…〉 It is be obiected that here of they did depose such as were examined by the 12 Commissioners I answere and confesse that they did so indeed by diuers of them but the Disc hath kept back and buried all that some of them affirmed the seconde time vpon their oathes and in manner all that the rest then deposed as is made manifest by my answere to the 8. chapter of the 3. booke so that the cause is not bettered there 〈◊〉 the Disc is made the more sinâ—ull Concerninge the depositions published to the worlde vnder my name this is it we must knowe that howsoeuer for the substance of 〈◊〉 they â—e mine yet many of them as they be produced by the Disc are not mine some he hath fathered vpon me I hauing deposed 〈◊〉 thinge wheâ— I deposâ—d doubtfully with there wordes 〈…〉 or other to 〈◊〉 effect which vsually I did the Discouerer 〈…〉 seth pâ—duceth me 〈…〉 times â—geâ— mâ—â—n depoâ—â—nge dâ—â—nfully 〈…〉 as I beleiue nor yet neuer bene examined thereof others â—e hath corrupted sometimes adding sometimes omitting or keeping back that which is verâ—â—ateriaâ—â— and by this his corrupt dealinge with my depositioâ—s on the one syde and the like with the depoâ—itions of his owne depoâ—â—ts on the other syde he maketh greate shewe to the world of 〈◊〉 wâ—ere none is Now this perâ—ury he meaneth to me for why Iâ—â— but one and the Disc produceth ordinarily 3. or 4. or more deposing the contrary And are not diuers to be beleued before one I answer not alwayes and in all cases Against Paul Anaâ—â—as the higâ— preist with the Elders and sertuilus and I know not nowe man â—ewes besides witnessed before the iudgment seate an I would no doubt haue â—eposed that he was a pâ—stilent â—edow and a â—ouer of sedition the coÌ„trary only Paul a pore prisoner affirmed yet the truth was with this sole man 〈…〉 Euen â—o it may be and I would be sorrie it were not in this our present case And here it is not to be forgotten that my selfe being first deposed S. Harsnet weâ—t down with his commission after his intergatories being framed according to the things I had formerlie deposed and there endeuoured