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A45122 An answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's book of The unreasonableness of separation so far as it concerns The peaceable designe : with some animadversions upon the debate between him and Mr. Baxter concerning the national church and the head of it. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719.; Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. Peaceable design.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Of national churches.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. Unreasonableness of separation. 1682 (1682) Wing H3667; ESTC R28713 17,588 40

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and I Judge not But I do perceive this that it hath exposed him much and that not only to such a sawcy Man as Mr. Alsop to style him This Weather-Cock but to such a serious Man as Mr. Baxter to drive him into such distress For so long I must still say as the Doctor is engaged to hold the Government of Episcopacy as it is exercised in the Church of England to be of Divine Right he must maintain also her proper Constituting Officers to be of Christs appointment and then find out a Constitutive Head of it or he is gone And seeing he cannot do this but is forced to grant there is no such Head and that there is no need of any it is plain that his Cause is lost I will sum up my Answer again The Doctor 's Determination is We deny the necessity of any such Regent Part. For a National Consent is as sufficient to make a National Church as an Universal Consent to make a Catholick Church It is well he sayes As Sufficient because That may excuse him something if neither of them be Sufficient as it appears they are not without a Head I have distinguished therefore two Consents A Consent that goes to the Making a Society or Church and a Consent for coming into the same when it is Made A Consent that goes to the Constitution and a Consent that goes to put a Man under the Administration When the Doctor Argues from the Catholick to a National Church that As an Universal Consent makes the Catholick Church So a National Consent the National Church he must not be understood to mean it of the Former Consent because there is no such Consent as that imaginable in regard to the Catholick Church There can be no coming together possibly of the Community of the whole Christian World to agree to such a Constitution The Catholick Church is not made by the consent of men but is of God's Ordination altogether Nor can he be understood of the Latter consent because a consent to be a Member of a Church or Society already Made is not that consent which goes to the Making it A consent to be a Christian or of the Church Catholick is to consent to have Christ for my Lord and Head But how a consent to have Christ for ones Head should prove that Consent makes a Church without a Head is a reasoning I am yet to understand For the former consent there is here none of it And from the latter there can be no Argument Again The Catholick Church Visible in its Nature can never be Organical It hath a Head and all the Particular Churches in the Earth are the parts of it Nay there were at first Universal Officers gifted with proper Gifts as the Gifts of Tongues sutable to such an Office But these were only to gather Particular Churches throughout the World and it never was the designe of the Head that there should be a Form of Polity introduced into an Oecumenical Society that by the Organs of Bishops Arch-Bishops Patriarchs General Councils and a Pope a Catholick Visible Government should be Administred so as to make the whole Earth a Political Church And consequently the Doctors Arguing from the Catholick to a National Church cannot be good Not only because there is no such Constitution as this by consent imaginable which I shall say principally as to the Catholick Church The True Head of this Church being not chosen by Man's consent and the False Head I hope we are never like to choose But because upon supposition that the Doctors Consent some way or other as he means did make it he must suppose this Universal Church as such to be on Earth a compleat Organized Body or he must make the National Church an In-organical Body and by either way he drops his Cause I do now wonder therefore at the Doctor what these first Apprehensions of something indeed he knew not what in his mind should mean How a man whose Parts are so great should be so slender in his Reasonings and why he should undertake the Resolution of such a Point as he is no body at at all The Doctor certainly has no reason therefore to insult over any body or contemn any and much less to Pity Mr. Baxter which Pity by interpretation is Slight Mr. Baxter is a man that is not to be Pityed nor indeed to be Envied for we usually don 't aspire to be equal to Singular persons The Doctor has his Excellencies other ways but he hath not Mr. Baxter's The Doctor 's Soul is made of Free-stone you shall have from him Polished Learning Mr. Baxter's is made of Flint you shall have from him Acute Truth It is the Flint not the Free-stone that strikes Light A quick Apprehension a d●ep Judgment a vast Invention Exquisite Notion A Pen consequently that is but turning the cock and it will run at any time a Sermon full or a Book full as he hath Occasion There is a Book I understand of his now sending out which hath been many a year in Study He is usually too sudden it is a Methodical system of Divinity fit for Students at the University I believe that many of our Episcopal-Divines will speak lightly of it but not read it For my part through his having this one Chief Work happily in Latin I rejoyce from my heart that Forreign Divines who are not yet Prejudiced as Ours are will come to know him Above all yet Mr. Baxter is a Holy Man who will be for ever greater in his own Refusing a Bishoprick than the Doctor can be in Getting one if the present ill managing of this Cause does not preclude his having any And now I could not Answer it to my self if I should leave this Discourse without returning to the Matter to make some Improvement of it From this piece of Doctrine then before wherein I wonder how the Doctor should stumble so at noon day that the Church of England is so far Erastian that She will not admit of Two Co-ordinate Powers with respect to the Church and the State of this Nation but doth choose to Own and Acknowledge the KING to be the only Head of Both we have a Dore open'd for Union which hath hardly been thought on by any of those Pious and Learned men whose Souls heretofore have so much breathed after it Archbishop Usher hath left us his Model for an Accommodation And it hath been upon the hearts generally of all Moderate Persons that a reduction of such a Government into our Church as was in in the Primitive Times when there was a Consessus Presbyterorum joyn'd with the Bishop in all his Acts of Ordination and Jurisdiction were the Way and only Effectual Way to our True Happiness and Reformation Unto which if one thing more might be Added that is If the Common-Prayer might be new Cast it being fit that such a Vessel for the Sanctuary should be all of Pure Gold so as the whole