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A41625	A reply to the Answer of the Amicable accommodation being a fourth vindication of the Papist misrepresented and represented : in which are more particularly laid open some of the principal methods by which the papists are misrepresented by Protestants in their books and sermons.	Gother, John, d. 1704.	1686 (1686)	Wing G1349; ESTC R18660	32,565	50

the Titles of Saints yet he hopes the Dissenters are not so silly as to think this to be any more than for Distinction Then as to the Power of Absolution there 's no dispute between Vs and the Dissenters They and We agree says he so that whatsoever the Common-Prayer-Book delivers of the Priest absolving the Sinner yet he assures them there 's nothing meant by this but only what the Dissenters teach themselves that is to give Relief to afflicted Consciences c. So again as to a vow of Chastity he and the Dissenters agree that 't is lawful to repent of it and marry 't is presently a rash Vow if the Temptation be but urging But then as to the business of Pictures in Bibles and Images of Moses and Aaron c. in Churches there he curries with them closely and assures them that however these Pictures are in their Bibles Printed by Authority Printed at the University tho' Moses and Aaron stand in most of the Churches have Place next to the Commandments are above the Communion-Table yet that all this is nothing but the Extravagancy of Painters and Printers a very late Invention and a secret design of Papists to reconcile the People by degrees to the use of Pictures and Images Now I defie any man to bid fairer for the good Opinion of the Dissenters than my Adversary has here done who for fear they should receive any ill impression in relation to his Church from my Character which is little more than in jest throws these scandals upon her in good earnest being resolv'd that if his Church be to be scandaliz'd he 'll have the doing it himself But for the winning of the Dissenters he goes on and tells them Altho' they have been Persecuted that still they are not to complain of his Church For that 't is not so much the Church has done this as the State to secure it self from their Restless Humour which has threatned the Publick Peace Now how far this will agree with them I can't tell But I am apt to believe that if the Dissenters once reflect how much more quiet they have enjoy'd since his Church's Power have been something check'd than before they 'l have some Reason to suspect that in their former Sufferings the Church has had the greatest share especially since at this present the State is as secure without those Persecutions as ever which is an Argument it does not stand much in need of ' em But I dispute not this matter let them agree as well as they can the business only is to put the Saddle upon the right Horse Another Reson he lays down before by way of Prevention And 't is that however the Church of England as it is represented in my Character may bear some resemblance with Antichrist yet he 's confident the Dissenters will hence receive no prejudice nor entertain any worse opinion of Her upon this score because They are too Wise and Cautious to take Characters from open and profess'd Enemies Now if this be true and sufficient reason for his presumption that the Dissenters are so Wise I would fain know how Wise he thinks his own Congregations to be that is such as go to Church who have been receiving Characters of Popery these hundred and Fifty years from the Open and Profess'd Enemies of the Papists 't is a Mercy they are not so Wise and Cautious as his Dissenters otherwise the Pulpits might e'en have been silent as to any thing touching Popery since holding forth against such as they have Protested against and own'd themselves Profess'd Enemies to they could have deserv'd no credit in their Characters But 't is well the Dissenters are so Wise and from henceforward 't is to be remembred that whosoever undertakes to give a Character of his declared and open Enemies and expects to be credited by his Flock must needs think them not so Wise as they shou'd be But here agen he comes over me with the Whip in hand and having assur'd his Dissenters that I have abus'd them in Fathering upon them so soul a Character of the Church of England he tells his Reader that the Run of the Character is exactly to the tune of the Quakers whose Cant the Author as he says is as well acquainted with as if he had been either their Master or Scholar And if this be so I must confess it a very strange Providence as having never heard twenty words from them in my Life as I can remember All the Harangues and Pulpits I have been ever acquainted with here in England excepting some few of the Catholicks of late have been those of the Church of England and if I have learn'd any Canting it must have been not from the Quakers but from them The truth of 't is in the drawing up that Character I took no other model but that of the Church of England against the Papists There is scarce an Argument in the Character but exactly Parallel to what the Church of England uses in her Defence against Popery the grounds of the Arguments are the same the manner of urging them the same the Maxims on which they stand the same and then then Reasons which press them home are they not the very same which the Answerer himself in his former Discourses urges against me I wonder then how this comes to be a Quakers Cant 'T is strange men should know their own Picture no better and that when they see a Copy of what they do and say themselves in the most serious concern it should appear to them so unlike the Original that what in themselves they deem Reasonable and Just being shewn them in a Reflection or Emblem should seem nothing but Spiteful and Silly as the Answerer says this do's p. 17. This is just as it happens with little Children who when they are shewn what Wry Faces they make and how Scowling looks will not easily believe they make so Vgly Well but now the Answerer had consider'd the whole Character and begins to think at last that in it I have ridicul'd the Church of England And thus says he this hopeful design of Representing and Misrepresenting ends only in ridiculing the Church of England a Liberty which if we needed it is not mannerly for us to use at THIS TIME But wherein have I ridicul'd the Church of England I have done no more in my Character against Her than what they have been doing these Hundred and Fifty Years against the Church of Rome only what I have done in a kind of Jest and without endeavouring to delude any body with such kind of Sophistry They have been doing in the greatest earnest and by it making good their Cause And as for the mannerly and at this time were there any ridiculing in my Case is it not still as little manners to ridicule at this time the Religion of the Prince as the Religion of the Subject But I leave to the Ingenious

and Impartial Reader to examine this affair of the Mannerly and This Time I 'le not judge neither for my self nor him But however notwithstanding this little displeasure of my Answerer it clears up agen with him he pardons all frankly and we are contented says he they should ridicule our Church if they will permit us truly to Represent theirs Here now we have a liberty granted of Ridiculing which I resolve never to make use of unless it be to shew how They ridicule the Church of Rome But instead of returning my thanks for this favour I am e'n resolved to beg another and 't is that the Answerer will be pleased not to take that for Ridiculing in us which in them he calls truly Representing This would be a very Signal Favour indeed if it could be obtain'd but I almost despair For by all that I can discover in their truly Representing 't is so unlike what he calls it that nothing can be more underserving that Name For let but an exact Copy be taken of what they do to the Papists when they truly Represent them as they call it with all its methods and circumstances let the same measures they use to them be applied to any other Body or Society even to their own Church of England and if it do's not appear to be down right Misrepresenting and Ridiculing instead of truly Representing I 'le e'en throw up the Cause and grant the Papists to be as Black as they make them This appears something already in the Character now examin'd which he owns to be Ridiculing tho' it be nothing but what they do to the Church of Rome and there call it Truly Representing But this I shall more clearly evince afterwards when I have examin'd some other Parts of the Answer where I shall have occasion of playing him the same Tune over agen a litle more distinctly without any Ridiculing but in very good earnest But first I must consider how he receives the Curtesie I did him in my last Reply I must confess I could not but be concern'd to see my Answerer turning and winding it first through tedious Ten Sheets and soon after through other Nine and all to prove that the Word Misrepresented in the Title of my Book was not to be taken in its Proper Sense This to me was an Object of Compassion and therefore to save him any farther Sweat I thought fit to yield to his Pretensions and give into his hands the full grasp of all that he had just before so earnestly contended for And see now how ill use he makes of this favour For having so far complied with him that the Word Misrepresented in the Title of my Book is not to be taken in its Strict and Proper Sense he would now willingly impose upon his Reader and Me and perswade the World as if I own the Protestants not to charge falsly any Doctrins or Practices on the Church of Rome which she disowns and that they do not teach their Flock that the Church of Rome believes or practices otherwise than She does This says he at last if I understand him he confesses Is not this stretching a Curtesie with a witness and Misrepresenting the Representer I yielded to him indeed for Peace sake that the Title of a Papist Misrepresented is not to be taken in its strict and proper Sense as Misrepresenting signifies ONLY downright Lying or falsly charging matter of Fact the WHOLE Character being not of that nature And this with our Answerer is the same as to confess That Protestants do not charge the Church of Rome with any Doctrins or Practices which She does not own So that it seems because the Character of a Papist Misrepresented is not wholly made up of matters of Doctrin and Practices falsly charg'd upon the Papists Therefore as our Answerer will have it it contains nothing at all wrongfully charg'd upon them and Protestants do not in any thing Misrepresent the Church of Rome And this he would have me plainly confess But I must beg his pardon for this I do not see he has made so good use of the last favour I did him as to accomodate away my Senses and Reason to do him another No Transubstantiation is not half so disagreeable to Protestant-Senses as this is to mine I could as easily confess that Protestants do not at all Write or Preach against Papists as that they do not Misrepresent them And for the truth of this Cause I dare stand to the Verdict even of a Protestant Jury I 'le give the Answerer choice-room enough Let him pick out of all England Twelve such Men who understand the Belief and Doctrin of Papists all Good Men and True and if they shall upon examination give in That they know all to be true which they have heard from Protestant Pulpits and Books concerning the Papists I 'le then yield up the Cause and sit down contented with the brand of a Misrepresenter Nay I dare put it to a farther issue If they do not own they have heard and read several things charg'd upon the Papists which they know to be false I 'le submit to the Answerer and be oblig'd never more to disturb him with the Talk of Misrepresenting But before we advance too far in this matter let 's see first how it stands with the Character of a Papist Misrepresented and examine whether there be nothing there falsly laid at the Papist's door enough for the Book to deserve such a Title And whether the fathering on them such Doctrins as are there contain'd and found in Protestant Authors be not affirming more than is True and charging on them Doctrins and Practices such as they and the Church of Rome disown And first what do's he think of Praying to Images asserted as a Practice of the Papists in the first Chap. of the Papist Misrepresented Is not this imputing more to the Papists than they either teach practice or maintain Do they believe their Sins to be infallibly remitted upon Absolution whether they resolve upon amendment or no And yet this is laid to them Chap. 7. Do they believe the Pope can give them leave for a Sum of Money to commit what Sins they please And yet this is reported as their Doctrin Chap. 8. Is it absolutely true that they are never permitted to know their Commandments but by halves Is it their Doctrin presumptuously to rely on a Death-bed Repentance Are their Sermons in Latin or do they teach in Unknown Tongues Is it true that they Fir'd the City Is he sure they Kill'd Sir Edmondbury Godfrey Or will he put in for an Evidence to Swear the Truth of the Damnable Hellish Popish-Plot And yet all these things and more stand charg'd upon the Papists in the Character of a Papist Misrepresented Why then should the Answerer thus quarrel with this Title as if the Papists had no wrong done them in such a Description I know it is the Interest of such ill men as