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A64581 Helmont disguised, or, The vulgar errours of impericall and unskillfull practisers of physick confuted more especially as they concern the cures of the feavers, stone, plague and other diseases : in a dialogue between philiatrus, and pyrosophilus : in which the chief rarities of physick is admirably discoursed of / by J. T. ... Thompson, James, Student in physick. 1657 (1657) Wing T999; ESTC R2900 62,808 154

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the colour that is whiter or blacker then it should be or by the yellowness greenishness or brownness of it Or by the matter as being too clammy too thick too waterish too thin Or at last by the substance as being without fibers and scarce coherent c. But I declare or protest unto you under penalty 25. Example out of the variety of bloud of a convicted lye that if any man would make proof thereof he shall finde that many of the blouds of two hundred Country fellows sound and wanton as those were which in one day were by me examined he might finde as I found many of them to view very unlike the rest in colour matter and consistents of which I distilled many and in cuting found them to be equally wholsome for our Peasants are wont the second day in Whitson week to let bloud that they might drink more freely And though many of them seemed putrefied rusty like Iron or melancholike yet those from whom these blouds were taken were all very sound men which is a thing worth noting Therefore these blouds did by the cause confirm themselves notwithstanding the signes of corruption to be no whit alienated from the nature of the Balsam Ph. What thought you then Py. I thought not so much as I laughed 26. A ridiculous fable of bloud drawn at the table of Judgements upon the sight of bloud after Phlebotomy and this means I was confirmed and those blouds were commanded by Physitians to be kept that they might score up at least one visit more upon the recovering of the Patients For if corruption 27. An argument from the Plague against use of the Schools of bloud have place any where and should under that title indicate its letting out this should be rather in the Plague then in any other infirmity But it s a deadly thing to let bloud in the Plague there putrefaction is no where in the bloud nor is there any fear that putrefaction should grow strong therein And consequently the scope of bloud-letting is in this case erroneous Ph. Could you not illustrate this passage better by some instance Py. I could and will And therefore I 28. Another from the Pluri●ie suppose also that thirty men were equally sick of a Plure●ie and ten of them had by Phlebotomy drawn bloud apparently vitious for the bloud in this disease is like red Wine wherein are clotts of Milk I will cure the other twenty without bloud-letting It is certain in the mean while that these twenty had their bloud affected in the same manner that those ten had And again that those twenty cured if they should open a vein the bloud would be found rectified restored to the former perfection and far different from Pluritical in all or any of them Therefore the bloud of one that is Pluritical is not corrupted though it seem so Ph. May this be proved Py. It may for from a corrupted or deprived thing there is no going back again to life health or former habit Therefore no blackness blewishness greenishness or other such like colours of the bloud do testifie the corruption of it but onely tell us the tokens of a boyling or a fermental turbulency or troubledness For if the more watry or yellow bloud should especially tell us the faults thereof the arterial bloud should bee far worse then that of the veins is which were an errour in that the bloud is in the same manner distinguished by the former signes as Wine when it is troubled while the Vine is blooming which is not therefore corrupted because the trouble being gone the Wine of it self doth come cle●r again In like manner a fever diversly disturbs the bloud and makes the face thereof of sundry ill colours But 29. Heats and turbulences of bloud no testimonies of its faultiness But the Bug beats or Scare-crowes ceas● when the fever 's over Indeed I am wont to liken these men that look into the bloud to such as give their judgement of Spanish Wine and think they are cas●ing of an Urine Ph. But they will say If putrefaction be 30. The poor deceit of the Schools not in the bloud why streams it not out of the vein purely red the third time and not the first or the first and not the third time Py. This argument at least convinceth that one part of the bloud is more or sooner disturbed then another and not the whole and all together For it is certain that Nature tendeth 31. Ridiculous to suppose putred humors in fevers to the perfection appointed her by little and little and by a direct and lineary way And that therefore the bloud near the heart is purer then about the first shops or offices thereof And that is the reason why they say a Tertian as well continual as intermittent consists of Choler a Quarran of Melancholly and a Quotidian of Phlegme but all putred and they err therein For what necessity had they to suppose these humors which I have elsewhere demonstrated to be fictious putred seeing they confess a Synochus continual and more cruel then the three former not to be putred Which if they be conferred with the proposed definition of fevers the bloud in every Synochus and the spirit of life in a Diary Ephemera or Day-fever must of necessity in life be putred that is they will have attained or be arrived to the bound of putrefaction Then whereas 32. Some absurdities alledged against the definition of fevers in the precedent Dialogue the Schools confess that these putred humors do not consist in the ventricle of the heart and that therefore they are not primarily kindled in a fever by this meanes putrefaction is consequently in vain required to the kindling of a feverish heat in the heart If therefore the putred humors shall a far off inflame the spirit in the heart this by all law of Nature should first be done nearer hand then at a greater distance and should rather inflame all the intermediating bloud by the heat of putrefaction and so all must give a necessary putred Synochus Whereupon the Quartan shall neither stop it's course nor make it's recourse if the same putred matter of it can lie quietly in exp●ctation in the Spleen for a year together Gangrens teach me certainly that nothing which is putred for every thing that 's putrefied is dead can long persist without further contagion Neither am I capable how the very spirit of Life it self the Archeus shall become putrefied 33. A ●rivolous excuse by an Ephemir● to give Galen satisfaction for a Diary But if they understand a Diaria to be the daughter of that putrefaction which at last is inserted or comes into the spirit of life So all fevers in the Schools should be Diaties To conclude if a Diaria be the daughter of putrefaction it is then presupposed to be fermented with the spirit of life whence they fall again into the same straights But if
putred before it came unto the small and last extremities of the veines why should one of them for example Phlegme or Choler be separated from its three other fellowes to putrefie in banishment so far from its own inhabitation Or what foolish separation is that which should pull away an innocent humor from its compound to so absurd and ●rivolous ends and purposes And why therefore doth not the same fever continue during life seeing the same separator persisteth during life What Schoolmaster is hee which admonisheth this separator to take up in time and to be wiser At least if the extremities of the veines do corrupt that putred humor the veines themselves shall be more corrupted and so they should fall into an inexcusable Gangren Ph. But what if there should some cause lie lu●king in the very extremities of the veines which cals that guiltless humor to its self that it might putrefie it near it self where it is more subjected to the power thereof Py. That might be more compendiously done in that bloud which is near unto it over which it hath greater dominion and from whence it would be as free for it to separate Phlegme or Choler as it is for a purging medicine to do it commonly Ph. But what if it should have prepared the putred humor out of the bloud that 's nearest to it Py. Then should it in vain expect a fitting quantity of Choler for two dayes together Ph. What if this humor should putrefie before it arrive unto the veines extremities Py. Then the Schools should contradict themselves and the seats of intermittent fevers should not be in the habit of the body but in the first work houses of the humors Ph. But what if the putred humor should be totally dispersed out of the veines into the habit of the body at one fit till it be consumed Py. Then why should that separator at least or driver since nothing is moved of it self which is not vital be less generous in the bowels then hee which is placed in the extremities of the veines Ph. Nay further to what mad end should this passage of the putred humor be made from the mesenterie by the Liver and Heart to the extremity of the veines Py. It is a passage full of danger and it is to be feared least the whole bloud should presently by the putredness and deadly venome thereof be defiled through its frequent thorow-course For either Galen tels us a large lie or humane Nature doth of her self medicate her own destruction And by this meanes that necessity of Revulsion which boast to be done by bloud-letting faileth Insomuch as by the proper power of intermittents the putr●d humor revelled or puld back from the nest of its g●neration at hours appointed yea it of it self runneth to the extremities of the veines unless peradventure this Revu●sion may bee thought dangerous which must all be made by the heart and through the hollow vein as well in intermittents as by bloud-lettings Again either all the feverish matter is by particular fits drawn from the nest of its nativity or not all If all there will be no cause of return if not all why should not the new humor which putrefies against the comming of particular future fits rather move a feverish fit by its putrefaction then by its expulsion In that the trouble and pain is greater while parulent matter is in making then when it is made In this case why should not the seats of fevers be rather in the place of putrefaction then in places by which it passeth while it is expelled Nay why should Choler or Phlegme in the Bowels putrefie when the Appetite returneth and Thirst and Watchsulness are absent suppose on the quiet dayes of intermittent fevers and the putrefaction thereof doth not disturb the order of affairs in the work-houses of the humors Why should Melancholy made upon Monday putrefie into a tipe putrefaction in two dayes and that which was made the day following putrefie in one day onely as much as the former did in two dayes If both shall make a joint fit of a Quartan upon Wednesday Why should not that which was made upon Munday move its fit upon Wednesday and that which was made upon Tuesday its fit on Thursday And consequently if any where made upon Wednesday move its fit upon Friday Ph. Heere doubtless Physitians will wi●h a Spanish shrug lift up their shoulders bend their eye-brows and accuse occul● proprieties when they are constrained to make answer to things known unto the senses by their credited and supposed madnesses Py. Yea and why at last in the shakings of a Tertian will they have that to be Gall which is vomited in the beginnings of fits and say that Nature moveth this way if the course of Nature in the same time doth quire contrary proceed from the Centre to the veines extremities Ph. Indeed Nature doth not in one an● the same instant move two opposite mot●ons inward and outward ●specially for the sake of one excrement which is though to be Gall. Py. You say well But why doth not this vomiting take away so much of the outragiousness of the fit as the ex●ulsion of that excrement was copious which they hold to be the very matter of the Tertian But if there be vet any remainder left of Choler after the fit in its work-houses why should it rather putrefie new Choler then those humors which radically annexed to it How comes bitter vomiting thirst and so great signes of hurts to trouble the stomack while the dreggs and filth of the mischief should have for the most part gone unto the ex●emi●●es of the veines to cause the sh●kings But such as have issues perceive that within two dayes that they have had their fevers there come forth but few if any excrements which doubtless should be many if so much feverish filth should every fit pass to the ex●remities of the veines and habit of the body Ph. The Schoois take great joy in these causes of shakings so pleasantly seigned and so fondly credited Py. Let them but why doth Galen attend more unto the quantity of the humor then unto the dutifull obedience of it Would no Choler by reason of its heat and fluxibility be more ready to follow or attend upon that which is putrefactive then Phlegm would be But why doth not Choler move a fit eve●y day if the less half thereof suffice to make a Tertian Considering that the greatest half thereof is cast out by vomit And to conclude he should have told us how many ounces of putred humor should be requisite for every fit Whether six or seven 7. What quantity of Choler requisite to make a fit of a Tertian after the Schools for twice as much is often cast out by vomiting about the b●ginning of a Tertian and yet the fit is nothing less Therefore if yet seven ounces are gone unto the mouths or extremities of the veines and twelve other ounces be cast ou● by
reserve it self against this defect to continue the sever which should otherwise perish through the penury of Chol●r Or whether did Nature please her self in the custody of a putred Choler But if this Chol●r flowing out of the veines be not putred then Nature should be mad and surious to dissolve the bloud that she might have something for the continuation of the suture sever But the Galenical Schools confess it putred and that a putred humor is every fi● powred out by the veines and carried into the slender extremities of them and that that is the cause of the trembling of the fit and of the exceeding cold thereof the putref●ction of which humor while it is there more increased should presently after be the cause of heat in such extremity Ph. How relished you this Py. I esteemed these as dry stubble unworthy tales miserable old wives fictions and ignorances most pernicious to humane Nature Ph. But did not Fernelius fi●st detect this ignorance of the Schools Py. He did so and therefore Rondeletius 18. The merit of Fer●elius and his fellow Galenists inveighed against Fernelius as a desertor of the Schools and an Apostata But Fernelius was the first that smelt out the nest of intermittents to be about the stomack and next Gut unto it called Duodenum and about the Pancreas also which we call Sweet-bread as likewise he established the seat of continual fevers about the heart But he had not the boldness to decline from the old way of curing fevers He began indeed openly to dispute against the precedent Schools about the nest of fevers but he afterwards hid himself amongst his abdita and not able to shake off those straw-made shackles of putred humors he suffered both the knowledge and the essences of fevers also to be taken from him Ph. But what saith Paracelsu● to this business Py. Paracelsus being terrified by the rigor 19. The rash●ness and inconstancy of Paracelsus of fevers perswading himself hee had the knowledge of all fevers sure enough tickled by his own invention of an allegorical Microcosme defines a fever to be a disease made of Sulphur and Nitre And in another place that it is the earth quake of the little world ●● if Sulphur and Nitre should be made much colder then themselves as b●ing drawn out of the mud or slime which he cals Limus or Limbus of the Microcosm which afterwards should of their own accords be set on fire by the burning Etna Now as Galen in the search of causes stumbled every where and therein shewed himself to be no Physician whose name he saith is Iventor Occasionis so Paracelsus with a wonderous liberty is faln in his Microcosmi Par●emius unworthy a Physitian Ph. It would prove an hard law to precipitate 20. Man no Microcosm if we obey the Scripture a man nakedly to have a relation or a reference to the Microcosm in the miserable necessities of all diseases Py. I therefore rejoyce with my self that I bear the Image of the living God and not of the world Ph. It should seem then that this good man was deceived Py. Nothing more certain In that hee knew not that fire burneth no where unless 21. Paracelsus deceived it be first kindled neither knew hee any flint in us or steel or any thing to strike them one against the other in the point or instant of the beating of the flint howsoever he dissemble the business and indeed there was no necessity of them no nor of gunpowder to produce a feverish heat unless we were to be burnt up the first stroke and torn in pieces Therefore the matter of actual Sulphur and Salt-peter are wanting in us So is the connection of them both together neither is there actual fire within us And in fine there wants a body which could tolerate this burning though it were but for a moment Wherfore the causes and originals of fevers in the Schools are trifling songs and very fables THE FOURTH MEETING OF PHILIATRUS AND PYROSOPHILVS About the Examination of Bloud-letting in Fevers Ph. GOod Sir let mee hear your opinion of Bloud-letting in fevers Py. You shall but before I go on to further scopes intentions or purposes I should repeat what I have elsewhere in a large Treatise demonstrated viz. That there are not two Cholers and a Phlegme in Nature as parts whereof the bloud consisteth Ph. No That were worth the hearing Py. It were and the rather because in this place where there is no mention made of any but put●ed humors those would of themselves be destroyed In that a putred 1. One reasō against humors the rest elswhere animal is no longer animal But this discourse of fevers requires a more succinct brevity of me Ph. Use your pleasure Py. I will therefore onely examine two gener●l helps in curing Ph. What are those Py. Bloud-letting and Purging Ph. These are as it were the two Pillars of Physick if you should deal● otherwise then well with them the whole house would of its own accord fall upon the heads of Physitians For if these helps should be taken away Physitians must forsake their Patients as not having other medicines then such as doth diminish st●eng●h and body 2. Galen's universal pr●position for Phleboto●y Py. These therefore I will touch upon in general For by the consent of Galen bloud-letting is required in every fever except an hectick Ph. What arguments bring you against the Schools and the destructive custome of these times in this occasion Py. Such as follow viz. Bloud letting 3. A Syllogism against him where there is no necessary indication thereof that is where there is no proper use of it is unprofitable But in fevers there is no necessary indication thereof therefore bloud-letting in fevers is unprofitable Ph. What if they deny your Major Py. I prove it thus bec●use the end is the first director of the causes and disposer of the means unto it self wheresoever therefore the end shews not a necessity of the means those means not being requisite to that end are impertinently used Especially where a contrary indication tels us that we cannot let bloud without dejection of our strength or forces Therefore these means are foolishly appointed which are by the end declared to be used in vain unprofitably and with diminution of those forces Ph. How prove you your Minor Py. Horatius Augenius proves it by three books written to that purpose wherein he teacheth by consent of the Academies that onely a Phlethora or too great fulness of the veines that is too great aboundance of the bloud is that which shews when bloud-letting is to be used No● that directly for the curing of fevers but for the evacuation of that fulness but there 's never any Phlethora in fevers Therefore there is never any need of bloud-letting in fevers And consequently i● is altogether unprofitable Ph. I must confess the conclusion is new and paradoxical and therefore it should be proved