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B12204 An ansvvere to a letter of a Iesuited gentleman, by his cosin, Maister A.C. Concerning the appeale; state, Iesuits Copley, Anthony, 1567-1607?; Champney, Anthony, 1569?-1643?, attributed name. 1601 (1601) STC 5735; ESTC S108680 66,056 126

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Fathers for peace-sake would haue accepted they to shame the Diuell rather then themselues still by the contrarie for to stand vpon Puntoes in sinne especially such a sinne as brings Schisme with it what a shame is it for a religious person in a persecuted church who though it were no wrong at all but right that he hath written yet had he Saint Paules spirit who wished Anathema esse pro fratribus suis he would not sticke to confesse it a fault though none and also satisfie for it as such much more Maister Arch-priest the matter being bad had he the spirit of that good Pope who of an Arrian-Prelate as he was being by the strong hand of the Empresse Eudoxia as I remember exalted to the Sea Apostolicke was no sooner inuested therin but did straight renounce his Arrianisme and decree the Catholicke faith against it had he I say but halfe his spirit he would now in his authenticke authoritie doe both himselfe and his brethren right in this matter against the Iesuits his makers howsoeuer afore time he stoode for them in the wrong But he is all for Gloria patri and as for Filio hee seemes the flat Arriane for which great pittie it is that Fratrum quoque gratia rara est Nay hee that can penne expresse Sermons and vtter them openly in blemish of the partie present being a Gentlewoman of Nobilitie in this land which as she her selfe hath protested was the onely cause of her turning Protestant he also that can by his letter expressely incharge one of his Assistants as he did to calumniate and defame a certaine reuerend Priest by name whom I know he I say that can thus do no maruell if such a Iudge be of counsell to a Libell and a countenance thereunto No maruell also if he be an vnfortunate Father to his ghostly children as to one he was to my knowledge and that I rue who after a long and worshipfull confession of the Catholicke faith in the Towre of London and other prisons in the end fell vnder his hand Lastly no maruell if such a one for want of good neighbours be faine to praise himselfe as lately hee hath done and that in the first place too afore his founder Father Parsons in a certaine tract intituled Pius griefe which by the confused huddle of the Doctors sayings therein and the stile is held to be his But to the Iesuits againe Dico meam culpam being their owne lesson and so boyish a pennance as they vse it me thinkes they should not shame to say it when it comes to their turnes as now through their misdoing it doth much lesse shuld they persist so stiffe-necked in defensione peccati it being a sinne in the highest degree against the holy Ghost But seeing they doe so as chusing rather to shame themselues then the Diuell such is their charitie truly Cosin I doe not see but some lay-cauterie as well as the religious Appeale depending is requisite to be applied to them as aforesaid though better a great deale and more meritorious were voluntarie pennance from the heart then that which so perforce they may haue cause to take to the heart Some shew of grace they haue alreadie made in proffering a parley of peace to the Appealants but it is indeede but grace in shew nor gratia gratis data but a meere seruile grace extorted out of the iust feare they haue of the Appeale which by Braues nor by their great friendes they see they cannot suppresse and also for the high iniurie they haue done to Saint Peters chayre touching the same for which they are like to bee put to such a pennance vpon the issue thereof I feare me as besides to see the Appealants faculties and honours restored vnto their innocence by the Apostolike Pastor which they haue taken away theirs and the Arch-priests vice versa to bee suspended and attainted as Schismaticall c. In which predicament I am perswaded they haue been ipso facto from the first for which cause for my own part I assure yee Cosin I make it a scruple in my conscience to communicate with any of them in Sacraments till they be humbled especially the Iesuits holding it as they do lawfull vti scientia in confessione as much to say as to make vse of mens Confessions As for Maister Blackwell himselfe setting aside the libell which in the libeller was Schisme primariò and principaliter and also in his brother Father Cowbuck for procuring himselfe to be gaoler at Rome to the precursor-messengers thither touching Ecclesiasticall libertie together with his dismissing them in the end from thence vnheard disgraced yea and with expresse prohibition to returne to their countrey and that without exhibition to liue else where setting this aside which was expresse Schisme in them primariò was it not I pray if not Schisme in Maister Blackwell for that he is since a receiued superiour as may be obiected at least schismaticall in him secundariò and as in vse to Schismatickes so farre forth in countenance of that libell to discountenance an Appeale made to his Holinesse concerning the same all Appeale being intrinsecè Agnitio authoritatis in the highest degree to the Appealé and the greatest Plea of Iustice both ciuill and ecclesiasticall that is to discountenance it I say by suspension of the Appealants faculties spirituall and also their temporall reliefe from their friends for the same to interdict so honourable a censure as that of the Vniuersitie of Paris was toward the forwarding of the same Appeale to diswarne the Appealants booke being dedicated to his Holinesse owne eye in the reall nature of an Appeale to be read of the Catholickes of our countrey as schismaticall nay hereticall to slaunder the sacred Sea with a flat lye affirming that hee had receiued a resolution from the mother-Citie against the said censure of Paris toward the backewarding of the said Appeale Briefe to approue the tract of Schisme whether true or false against his Brothers it being to the so great and generall disorder of our church both in the Cleargie and in the laytie especiallie the libelés beseeching him to call in the said treaty so disparageable to their reputation and all the Seminaries together with their shewing themselues corrigible by their offer of disputation whether it were schisme or not and his refusall of each as aforesaid Was not all this I say with a great deale more à primo ad vltimum schismaticall in him as being to the disuniō of an vnited bodie at least Excommunication to him as in preiudice of ecclesiasticall libertie in which nature al Appeale is and sure flat schisme in them viz. the Iesuits both for that cause and also for that by their said libell they on their parts principally procured the said disuniō in Gods church here amongst vs deuiding the members therof one against another Was not al this schisme schismaticall in him or them or both whether the Appealants be Schismaticks or no