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A07039	Hay any worke for Cooper: or a briefe pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende byshopps counselling them, if they will needs be barrelled vp, for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie [and] the state, that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin, for the prouiding of their cooper. Because the reuerend T.C. (by which misticall letters, is vnderstood, eyther the bounsing parson of Eastmeane, or Tom Coakes his chaplaine) to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull [sic] tubtrimmer. Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you, in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned pistles, and makes the coopers hoopes to flye off, and the Bishops tubs to leake out of all crye. Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane.	Marprelate, Martin, pseud.; Throckmorton, Job, 1545-1601, attributed name.; Penry, John, 1559-1593, attributed name.	1589 (1589)	STC 17456; ESTC S112300	39,242	60

maiestrate hath neither the skil nor the commission to make the members of the body of Christ Because he cannot tel to what vse the members of his making may serue in the church Do you thinke T.C. that the maiestrat may make an eie for the visible body of the church For you must vnderstand that wee al this while speake of the visible body can he make a foote or a hand for that body I pray you in what place of the body would you haue them placed If our Sauiour Christ hath left behind him a perfect body surely he hath left therein no place or no vse for members of the maiestrates making inuention if an vnperfect and maimed body I am wel assured that the maiestrate is not able to perfect that which he left vnfinished But I hope T.C. that thou wilt not be so mad and wicked as to say that our Sauiour Christ left behind him heere on earth an vnperfect and maimed body If not then where shal these offices namely these members inuented by the maiestrate be placed therein Would you haue the naturall eies put out as your brethren the bishops haue don in the church of England euer since Iohn of Canterbury vrged his wretched subscription and vnnatural squint gogled eies put in their steede when the body cannot see with any eies but with the natural eies thereof displace them howsoeuer you may seme to help the matter by putting others in their steed yet the body shal be stil blind and maimed What say you T.C. may the Maiestrate cut of the true and natural legges and handes of the body of Christe vnder a pretence to put woodden in their steed I hope you wil not say that he may How then commeth it to passe T.C. that you hold Iohn of Canterbury his office and Iohn Mar-elms to be true and natural members of the body that is true officers of the church and yet hold it laweful for her Maiestie to displace them out of the church I-cannot tel brother what you hold in this point Me think I haue disturbed your sences Do you thinke that the maiestrat may displace the true members of the body of Christ and place woodden in their steed Why this is to hold it lawful for the maiestrate to massacre the body Do you thinke he may not Then may not her maiestie displace Iohn of Canterburies office out of our church if shee may not displace his office then either he by vertue of his office is a lawfull Pope aboue all ciuill magistrates or els the Church gouernment is so prescribed in the word as it is not lawfull for the magestrate to alter the same But Iohn of Canterburie as the puritans their selues confesse is no Pope Puritans confes Iohn Cant. to be no Pope Then either the church gouernment is so prescribed in the word as it may not be altred or els the magestrat may abolish a lawful church gouernement and place another in stead thereof If the Church gouernment be so prescribed in the worde as it cannot be altered then either our gouernment is the same which was therein prescribed or our Church gouerment is a false Churchgouerment If ours be the same which is mentioned in the word Then Paule and Peter were either no true Church gouernours or els Paul and Peter and the rest of Church gouernors in their time were Lordes for all our Church gouernours are Lordes But Paule and Peter c. were no Lords and yet true church gouernours Therefore our Church gouernment is not that which is prescribed in the word and therfore a false and vnlawfull church gouernement If you thinke that the magistrate may displace the lawful offices of the bodie then as I said before you hold it lawfull for the magistrate to maime or deforme the bodie Because whatsoeuer he pulleth in the roome of the true and right members must needs be a deformitie and what place soeuer he leaueth vnfurnished of a member must needes be a maime And this is the onely and sole office of Christe onely to place and displace the members of his bodie to wit the officers of his Church he may lawfully do it so cannot man And therefore the sots of which nomber you T.C. and you Iohn Whitgift and you Deane Iohn and you D. Coosins and you D. Copcot with the rest of the ignoraunt and wretched defendors of our corrupt church gouernement are to be accounted which thinke that the offices of pastors doctors elders and deacons or the most of them may be aswell nowe wanting in the Church as the offices of Apostles prophets and Euangelists do notably bewray their vile ignorance but the cause they doe not hurt For the beastes do not consider that the offices of Apostles Euangelists and Prophets were remoued out of the church not by man but by the Lord because hee in his wisdome did not see any vse of such members in his body after the time of the first planting of the Churche The apostles chose non in fled of Iames being beheded as they did in steed of Iudas Act. 1. which they would haue don if the apos●olicall calling had ben permanent I say they were remooued by the Lord himselfe and not by man because partly the giftes wherewith they were endued partly the largenesse of their commission with certaine other essentiall properties to them belonging were by him abrogated and taken away which no man could do Againe the Apostolicall Euangelical and propheticall callings were either lawfully or vnlawfully abolished out of the Churche if lawfully then they were abolished by the Lord therefore they are neither to be called backe vntill he sheweth it to be his pleasure that it shoulde be so neither can the church be truely said to be maimed for want of them because he which could best tell what members were fitte for his Churche did abolishe them If vnlawfully then those callings may be lawfully called backe againe into the church the church without them is maimed that is wanteth some members For if their callings were iniuriously abrogated they are as iniuriously kept out of the churche being members of the church the church is maimed without vnlesse the Lorde hath shewed that the time of their seruice in the bodie is expired But they are not iniuriously kept out for so her Maiestie shoulde be said to iniurie the church vnlesse she would see Apostles prophets and Euangelists planted therein neither can the church be saide to be maimed for want of them because the Lorde by taking them away hath declared that now there can be no vse of them in the bodie therefore the Lorde abrogated them Therefore also they may be wanting the churche neither maimed nor deformed thereby Whereas the keeping out of eyther of the former offices of pastors doctors elders and deacons is a maiming of the churche the placing of others in their steed a deforming Now reuerend T.C. I beseech you entreat mistris Cooper to write

of the Bishops Antichristian dealing to be hidden The most part of men could not be gotten to read any thing written in the defence of the 〈◊〉 and against the other I bethought mee therefore of a way whereby men might be drawne to do both perceiuing the humors of men in these times especialy of those that are in any place to be giuen to mirth I tooke that course I might lawfully do it I for iesting is lawful by circumstances euen in the greatest matters The circumstances of time place and persons vrged me thereunto I neuer profaned the word in any iest Other mirth I vsed as a couert wherin I would bring the truth into light The Lord being the authour both of mirth and grauitie is it not lawfull in it selfe for the trueth to vse eyther of these wayes when the circumstances do make it lawful My purpose was and is to do good I know I haue don no harme howsoeuer som may iudg Martin to mar al. They are very weake one that so think In that which I haue written I know vndoubtedly that I haue done the Lord and the state of this kingdom great seruice Because I haue in som sort discouered the greatest enemies thereof And by so much the most pestilent enemies because they wound Gods relligion and corrupt the state with Atheism and loosnes and so cal for Gods vengance vppon vs all euen vnder the coulor of relligion I affirm them to be the greatest enemies that now our state hath for if it were not for them the trueth should haue more free passage herein then now it hath All states thereby would be amended and so we should not be subiect vnto Gods displeasure as now we are by reason of them Nowe let me deale with these that are in authority I do make it knowne vnto them that our bishops are the greatest enemies which we haue For they do not only go about but they haue long since fully perswaded our state that they may lawfully procure the Lord to take the sword in hand against the state if this be true haue I not said truly that they are the gretest enemies which our state hath The papistes work no such effect for they are not trusted The Atheistes haue not infected our whol state these haue The attempts of our forraine enemies may be pernicious But they are men as wee are But that God which when our bishops haue and doe make our prince and our gouernors to wadge war who is able to stand against him Wel to the point many haue put her maiestie the parliament counsell in minde that the church officers now among vs are not such as the Lord aloweth of because they are not of his owne ordaininge They haue shewed that this falt is to be amended or the Lords hand to be looked for The bishops on the otherside haue cried out vpon them that haue thus dutifully mooued the state They with a loud voice gaue out that the maiestrat may lawfully maintaine that church gouerment which best fitteth our estate as liuing in the time of peace What do they else herein but say that the magestrat in time of peace may maime and deforme the body of Christ his church That Christ hath left the gouerment of his own house vnperfect and left the same to the discretion of the magestrate wheras Moses before whome in this point of gouernment the Lord Christ is iustly preferred Heb. 3.6 made the gouernment of the legal politie so perfcet as he left not any parte thereof to the discretion of the magestrate Can they deny church officers to be members of the church They are refuted by the expresse text 1. Cor. 12. will they affirme Christ to haue left behinde him an vnperfect body of his church wanting members at the lest wise hauing such members as were only permanent at the magestrates pleasure Why Moses the seruant otherwise gouerned the house in his time And the sonne is commended in this point for wisdome and faithfulnes before him Heb 3.6 Either then that commendation of the sonn before the seruant is a false testimony or the sonne ordained a permanent gouernment in his church If permanent not to be changed What then do they that hold it may be changed at the magestrates pleasure but aduise the maiestrate by his positiue lawes to proclaime that it is his will that if there shal be a church within his dominions he will maime and deforme the same He wil ordaine therein what members he thinketh good He will make it knowne that Christ vnder his gouernment shal be made lesse faithfull then Moses was That he hath left the placing of members in his body vnto the magestrate O cursed beastes that bring this guilt vppon our estate Repent Caitifes while you haue time You shal not haue it I feare when you wil. And looke you that are in authority vnto the equity of the controuersie betwene our wicked bishops and those who woulde haue the disorders of our Churche amended Take heed you be not caried away with slaunders Christs gouerment is neither Mar-prince Mar-state Mar-law nor Mar-magistrate The liuing God whose cause is pleaded for will bee reuenged of you if you giue eare vnto this slander contrary to so many testimonies as are brought out of his word to prooue the contrary He denounceth his wrath against all you that thinke it lawfull for you to maim or deform his church he accounteth his Churche maimed when those offices are therein placed whiche hee hath not appointed to be members thereof he also testifieth that there be no mēbers of his appointment in the Churche but such as he himselfe hath named in his word and those that he hath named man must not displace for so he shoulde put the bodie out of ioynt Nowe our bishops holding the contrary and bearing you in hande that you may practize the contrary do they not driue you to prouoke the Lorde to anger against your owne soules And are they not your enemies They hold the contrary I say for they say that her Maiestie may alter this gouernment now established and thereby they shew either this gouerment to be vnlawfull or that the magistrat may presume to place those members in Gods Church which the Lord neuer mentioned in his word And I beseech you marke howe the case standeth betweene these wretches those whom they call puritans 1 The puritans falsely so called shew it to be vnlawfull for the magistrate to goe about to make any members for the bodie of Christ 2 They hold all officers of the Church to be members of the bodie Rom. 12.6 1. cor 12.8.28 3 And therfore they hold the altering or the abolishing of the offices of church gouernment to be the altering abolishing of the members of the Church 4 The altering abolishing of which members they holde to be vnlawfull because it must needs be a maime vnto the bodie 5 They hold Christ Iesus to haue set downe as

exact and as vnchaungeable a churche gouernement as euer Moses did Heb. 3.6 These and such like are the points they holde let their cause be tried and if they hold any other points in effect but these let them be hanged euery man of them Now I demand whether they that hold the contrary in these pointes and cause the State to practize the contrary be not outragious wicked men and dangerous e nemies of the state it cannot be denied but they are Because the contrarie practize of any the former points is a way to worke the ruine of the state Now our Bishopps holde the contrary vnto them al saue the 3. and 2. points whereunto it may be they will yeeld cause our estate to practize the contrary whence at the length our destruction is like to proceed For 1 They denie Christ Iesus to haue set downe as exact and as vnchangeable a forme of church gouernment as Moses did For they say that the magistrat may change the church gouernment established by Christ so could he not do that prescribed by Moses 2 In holding all offices of the Church to be members of the bodie for if they be not members what shoulde they do in the body they hold it lawful for the magistrat to attempt the making of new members for that bodie 3 The altering or abollishing of these members by the magistrates they holde to be lawfull And therefore the maiming or deforming Now you wretches Archb. and L. Bishops I mean you Mar-state Mar-law Mar-prince Mar-maiestrat Mar-commonwealth Mar-church and Mar-religion Are you able for your liues to aunswere any part of the former syllogisme whereby you are concluded to be the greatest enemies vnto her Maiestie and the State You dare not attempt it I know For you cannot denie but they who holde it and defend it lawfull yea enforce the magistrate to maime or deforme the bodie of Christ are vtter enemies vnto that magistrat and that state wherin this disorder is practized You cānot denie your selues to do this vnto our magistrate and State because you beare them in hand that a lawfull church gouernment may consist of those offices which the magistrate may abollishe out of the church without sinne and so that the magistrate may lawfully cut off the members of Christ from his body and so may lawfully massacre the body You are then the men by whome our estate is most likely to be overthrowne you are those that shal answere for our blood which the Spaniard or any other enemies are like to spil without the Lords great mercy you are the persecutors of your brethren if you may be accounted brethren you your hirelings are not only the wounde but the very plague and pestilence of our church You are those who maime deforme vex persecute greeue wound the church Which keepe the same in captiuity darknes defend the blind leaders of the blind slander reuile and deforme Christes holy gouernment that such broken and woodden members as you are may be still maintayned to haue the romes of the true and natural members of the body Tel me I pray whether the true and natural members of the body may be lawfully cut of by the magestrate If you should say they may I knowe no mā would abide the spech What May the maiestrat cutt of the true and naturall members of the body of Christ O impudency not to be tollerated But our magestrate that is her maiestie and our state may lawfully by your owne confession cut you of that is displace you and your offices out of our church Deny this if you dare Then in deed it shal appeare that Iohn of Canturbury meaneth to be a Pope in deede to haue the soueraignty ouer the ciuill magestrate Then will you shewe your selfe in deed to be Mar-prince Mar-law Mar-state Now if the magestrate may displace you as he may then you are not the true members Then you are as in deed you ought to be thrust out vnlesse the magestrate would incur the wrath of God for maiming and deforminge the body of the church by ioyning vnnatural members thereunto Answere but this reason of mine and then hang those that seeke reformation if euer againe they speke of it if you doe not I wil giue you litle quiet I feare you not If the magestrate wil be so ouerseene as to beleeue that because you which are the maim of the church are spoken against therefore they namely our prince state which are Gods lieftenaunts shal be in like sort dealt with this credulity wil be the magestrates sinne But I know their wisdome to be such as they wil not For what reason is this which you profane T.C. haue vsed pag. 103. The sinful the vnlawful the broken vnnatural false and bastardly gouernors of the church to wit archb and bishops which abuse euen their false offices are spoken against Therefore the true natural and lawful and iust gouernors of the common welth shal be likewise shortly misliked Ah sencelesse and vndutifull beastes that dare compare your selues with our true magestrates which are the ordinaunces of God with your selues that is with Archbishops and bishops which as you your selues confesse I will by and by proue this are the ordinances of the Diuell I knowe I am disliked of many which are your enemies that is of many which you cal puritans It is their weaknes I am threatened to be hanged by you What though I were hanged do you thinke your cause shal be the better For the day that you hange Martin assure your selues there wil 20. Martins spring in my place I meane not now you grosse beastes of any commotion as profane T.C. like a sensles wretch not able to vnderstand an English phrase hath giuen out vpon that which he calleth the threatning of fistes Assure your selues I wil proue Marprelat ere I haue don with you I am alone No man vnder heauen is priuy or hath bin priuie vnto my writings against you I vsed the aduise of non therein You haue and do suspect diuers as master Paggett master Wiggington master Vdall master Penri c. to make Martin If they cannot cleare their selues their sillinesse is pitifull and they are worthy to beare Martins punishment Well once againe answere my resons both of your Antichristian places in my first epistle vnto you and these nowe vsed against you Otherwise the wisdome of the magistrate must needs smel what you are And cal you to a reckoning for deceauing them soe long making them to suffer the church of Christ vnder their gouernment to be maimed and deformed Your reasons for the defence of your hierarchie and the keeping out of Christs gouernment vsed by this profane T.C. are already answered They shew what profane beastes you are I wil heere repete them But heere first the reader is to know what answere this T.C. maketh vnto the syllogismes whereby I prooue all L. bishops to be petty popes and petty Antichristes