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laâ—d_v wait_v for_o innocent_a blood_n fornication_n in_o all_o kind_n be_v common_a and_o suffer_v without_o shame_n or_o punishment_n as_o a_o thing_n lawful_a man_n add_v incest_n to_o their_o adultery_n and_o chastity_n which_o be_v a_o virtue_n so_o acceptable_a to_o god_n be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n among_o they_o as_o well_o as_o moderation_n and_o sobriety_n which_o be_v force_v to_o give_v place_n to_o luxury_n and_o drunkenness_n and_o as_o to_o the_o ecclesiastic_n they_o live_v no_o more_o regular_o than_o the_o other_o it_o be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o priest_n as_o with_o the_o people_n as_o speaks_z the_o prophet_n for_o the_o bishop_n grow_v careless_a become_v dumb_a dog_n have_v respect_n to_o person_n they_o besmear_v their_o head_n with_o the_o oil_n of_o sinner_n like_o hireling_n abandon_v their_o flock_n and_o leave_v they_o to_o the_o mercy_n of_o wolf_n and_o become_v simonist_n they_o forget_v the_o word_n of_o god_n free_o you_o have_v receive_v free_o give_v the_o almighty_a then_o be_v provoke_v by_o so_o many_o crime_n do_v not_o only_o suffer_v the_o faithful_a in_o the_o holy_a land_n to_o remain_v in_o bondage_n but_o far_o to_o chastise_v they_o who_o be_v at_o liberty_n he_o stir_v up_o
god_n which_o show_v his_o perplexity_n to_o be_v so_o great_a in_o this_o particular_a that_o he_o know_v not_o on_o which_o side_n to_o turn_v himself_o whilst_o the_o greek_n possess_v so_o great_a tranquillity_n in_o this_o point_n that_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v they_o ever_o find_v the_o least_o difficulty_n in_o it_o they_o assure_v we_o the_o eucharist_n do_v nourish_v our_o body_n but_o they_o see_v none_o of_o those_o inconvenience_n which_o disturb_v the_o latin_n which_o clear_o show_v they_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o conversion_n of_o substance_n for_o do_v they_o believe_v it_o they_o will_v not_o fail_v to_o see_v what_o common_a sense_n discover_v to_o other_o and_o see_v it_o how_o be_v it_o possible_a they_o shall_v express_v no_o astonishment_n nor_o any_o difficulty_n therein_o or_o at_o least_o not_o take_v that_o side_n which_o mr._n arnaud_n have_v take_v which_o be_v to_o leave_v these_o difficulty_n to_o almighty_a god_n neither_o do_v we_o find_v that_o the_o 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substance_n it_o can_v be_v say_v they_o generate_v from_o bare_a accident_n neither_o can_v it_o be_v say_v without_o blasphemy_n that_o they_o be_v make_v of_o the_o proper_a substance_n of_o jesus_n christ_n this_o proof_n may_v be_v extend_v far_o for_o it_o be_v certain_a we_o do_v not_o find_v among_o the_o greek_n any_o of_o these_o kind_n of_o thing_n which_o depend_v on_o transubstantiation_n i_o mean_v which_o necessary_o and_o whole_o depend_v thereon_o they_o be_v in_o this_o respect_n in_o a_o most_o profound_a silence_n but_o it_o be_v worth_a our_o while_n to_o hear_v mr._n arnaud_n it_o be_v indeed_o say_v he_o a_o real_a truth_n that_o the_o greek_n take_v little_a 59_o lib._n 10_o cap_n 8._o p._n 59_o notice_n of_o these_o philosophical_a consequence_n samonas_n speak_v occasional_o of_o a_o body_n in_o two_o place_n and_o of_o accident_n without_o a_o subject_a the_o archbishop_n of_o gaza_n do_v the_o same_o but_o both_o one_o and_o the_o other_o of_o these_o do_v this_o by_o constraint_n what_o signify_v this_o tergiversate_n for_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o say_v the_o greek_n speak_v but_o little_a hereof_o see_v they_o speak_v not_o at_o all_o of_o it_o this_o samonas_n and_o this_o archbishop_n of_o gaza_n be_v not_o author_n to_o be_v quote_v see_v we_o shall_v make_v it_o appear_v in_o its_o place_n that_o the_o book_n which_o bear_v the_o name_n of_o the_o first_o of_o these_o be_v deserve_o suspect_v to_o be_v counterfeit_a and_o that_o the_o other_o be_v a_o roman_a proselyte_n wed_v to_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o to_o establish_v a_o restriction_n of_o this_o consequence_n mr._n arnaud_n shall_v have_v better_a proof_n but_o that_o we_o may_v do_v he_o right_o we_o will_v not_o conceal_v what_o he_o add_v afterward_o i_o draw_v from_o the_o silence_n of_o the_o father_n touch_v the_o miracle_n of_o transubstantiation_n and_o its_o consequence_n a_o argument_n to_o conclude_v they_o believe_v it_o not_o he_o answer_v that_o instead_o of_o father_n i_o shall_v substitute_v the_o greek_n armenian_n 63._o ibid._n pag._n 63._o and_o coptic_o of_o those_o time_n for_o say_v he_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o all_o these_o christian_n believe_v transubstantiation_n as_o we_o do_v and_o yet_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o all_o these_o difficulty_n which_o mr._n claude_n '_o s_o head_n be_v full_a of_o this_o acknowledgement_n be_v sincere_a and_o we_o need_v desire_v no_o more_o the_o greek_n take_v no_o more_o notice_n of_o the_o difficulty_n arise_v from_o transubstantiation_n than_o the_o armenian_n and_o coptic_o and_o mr._n arnaud_n grant_v this_o to_o be_v so_o undeniable_a a_o truth_n that_o he_o make_v it_o the_o ground_n of_o a_o answer_n our_o present_a business_n then_o be_v to_o know_v whether_o the_o consequence_n i_o hence_o draw_v be_v just_a and_o good_a which_o he_o contest_v i_o and_o first_o he_o say_v that_o all_o these_o eastern_a church_n profess_v to_o believe_v original_a sin_n and_o yet_o their_o divine_n trouble_v not_o themselves_o about_o explain_v this_o doctrine_n he_o add_v that_o they_o observe_v 59_o ibid._n pag_n 58_o 59_o the_o same_o silence_n in_o all_o the_o question_n and_o difficulty_n which_o the_o socinian_o propose_v against_o the_o trinity_n the_o person_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n although_o these_o difficulty_n be_v as_o obvious_a and_o sensible_a as_o those_o allege_v against_o the_o real_a presence_n but_o it_o be_v his_o prejudice_n and_o not_o his_o reason_n that_o have_v dictate_v to_o he_o this_o answer_n for_o first_o there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o incomprehensible_a mystery_n respect_v the_o divinity_n which_o be_v above_o the_o natural_a light_n of_o reason_n require_v a_o profound_a submission_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiatiation_n the_o nature_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v well_o know_v and_o the_o matter_n and_o sign_n thereof_o be_v better_o know_v which_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n even_o the_o thing_n signify_v to_o wit_n the_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n be_v not_o only_o the_o natural_a object_n of_o reason_n but_o likewise_o of_o sense_n and_o both_o one_o and_o the_o other_o of_o these_o faculty_n can_v judge_v of_o it_o nay_o they_o do_v judge_n of_o it_o by_o a_o spontaneous_a motion_n even_o when_o we_o will_v not_o ourselves_o second_o beside_o this_o infinite_a difference_n which_o yield_v no_o room_n for_o mr._n arnaud_n comparison_n the_o point_n in_o hand_n concern_v not_o the_o difficulty_n touch_v transubstantiation_n or_o the_o real_a presence_n but_o the_o doctrine_n which_o necessary_o attend_v they_o and_o question_n which_o immediate_o arise_v thence_o of_o themselves_o there_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o difference_n between_o these_o two_o particular_n the_o difficulty_n which_o be_v raise_v against_o a_o truth_n be_v common_o false_a consequence_n which_o the_o adversary_n draw_v thence_o and_o i_o confess_v it_o will_v not_o be_v to_o reason_n aright_o absolute_o to_o conclude_v that_o a_o church_n hold_v not_o a_o doctrine_n because_o she_o trouble_v not_o herself_o in_o answer_v all_o the_o objection_n which_o may_v be_v make_v against_o it_o to_o allow_v these_o kind_n of_o argument_n there_o be_v distinction_n to_o be_v make_v and_o particular_a circumstance_n to_o be_v observe_v without_o which_o there_o can_v be_v nothing_o conclude_v but_o we_o speak_v here_o of_o real_a consequence_n of_o a_o doctrine_n of_o consequence_n i_o say_v which_o immediate_o show_v themselves_o to_o the_o ordinary_a capacity_n without_o any_o great_a meditation_n and_o study_n now_o although_o the_o greek_n do_v not_o apply_v themselves_o to_o answer_v the_o objection_n of_o the_o socinian_o against_o original_a sin_n against_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n the_o person_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o satisfaction_n of_o christ_n be_v perhaps_o not_o acquaint_v with_o they_o yet_o do_v we_o plain_o see_v among_o they_o the_o consequence_n of_o these_o doctrine_n they_o baptise_v little_a child_n and_o baptise_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n they_o believe_v the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v consubstantial_a they_o adore_v the_o person_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n they_o put_v their_o trust_n in_o the_o death_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o such_o like_a thing_n wherefore_o shall_v it_o not_o be_v the_o same_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o consequence_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v it_o possible_a to_o hold_v this_o doctrine_n without_o think_v at_o the_o same_o time_n at_o least_o on_o some_o one_o of_o these_o consequence_n on_o the_o actual_a existence_n of_o a_o humane_a body_n in_o several_a place_n the_o existence_n of_o this_o body_n without_o its_o usual_a dimension_n the_o concomitancy_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o on_o the_o accident_n of_o
bread_n which_o remain_v after_o consecration_n the_o difficulty_n which_o the_o socinian_o object_n against_o the_o trinity_n and_o other_o doctrine_n mention_v by_o mr._n arnaud_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n false_a consequence_n which_o these_o heretic_n draw_v from_o these_o doctrine_n it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o almost_o all_o christian_n be_v ignorant_a of_o these_o consequence_n they_o do_v not_o spring_v up_o natural_o for_o it_o be_v passion_n and_o blindness_n that_o produce_v they_o for_o i_o call_v blindness_n those_o false_a light_n which_o cause_n these_o heretic_n to_o behold_v that_o which_o be_v not_o but_o that_o which_o mr._n arnaud_n call_v the_o difficulty_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v real_a consequence_n of_o this_o doctrine_n and_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v such_o by_o they_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n let_v he_o say_v as_o long_o as_o he_o will_v these_o be_v philosophical_a consequence_n i_o affirm_v they_o be_v not_o so_o philosophical_a as_o to_o hinder_v they_o from_o be_v very_o natural_a appear_v to_o be_v so_o even_o to_o the_o light_n of_o common_a sense_n it_o be_v most_o natural_a for_o a_o man_n that_o believe_v the_o substance_n of_o bread_n cease_v to_o be_v to_o think_v on_o the_o accident_n which_o remain_v it_o be_v very_o natural_a for_o he_o that_o believe_v the_o body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o his_o blood_n to_o be_v substantial_o therein_o to_o imagine_v that_o where_o the_o body_n or_o flesh_n be_v there_o must_v the_o blood_n be_v also_o which_o be_v call_v in_o one_o word_n the_o concomitancy_n it_o be_v most_o natural_a for_o he_o that_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n that_o nourish_v to_o consider_v what_o shall_v cause_v this_o nourishment_n it_o be_v very_o natural_a for_o a_o man_n that_o believe_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n to_o be_v a_o real_a humane_a body_n to_o inquire_v how_o this_o body_n can_v be_v strip_v of_o the_o propriety_n of_o its_o nature_n it_o be_v natural_a when_o we_o see_v worm_n which_o engender_v in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o inquire_v whence_o they_o take_v their_o matter_n it_o be_v likewise_o certain_a that_o philosophy_n be_v not_o proper_o any_o more_o concern_v in_o these_o consequence_n than_o bare_o to_o defend_v they_o and_o not_o to_o illustrate_v they_o and_o yet_o when_o they_o shall_v not_o appear_v in_o themselves_o to_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o greek_n and_o we_o suppose_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o this_o church_n to_o be_v in_o such_o a_o prodigious_a stupidity_n that_o for_o so_o many_o age_n since_o they_o have_v discover_v nothing_o of_o themselves_o touch_v these_o thing_n which_o will_v be_v in_o my_o mind_n one_o of_o the_o bold_a supposition_n imaginable_a yet_o it_o must_v be_v acknowledge_v they_o have_v see_v they_o in_o the_o doctrine_n and_o common_a belief_n of_o the_o latin_n who_o have_v fill_v their_o religion_n with_o they_o since_o beringarius_n his_o time_n neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o it_o be_v man_n disputation_n which_o occasion_v all_o these_o question_n on_o the_o subject_a of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o discover_v these_o consequence_n we_o speak_v of_o mr._n arnaud_n will_v fain_o persuade_v we_o to_o it_o but_o we_o know_v the_o contrary_a and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o very_a doctrine_n itself_o of_o transubstantiation_n which_o have_v produce_v they_o for_o they_o take_v their_o birth_n from_o what_o our_o eye_n see_v and_o hand_n touch_v and_o experience_n which_o can_v but_o be_v acknowledge_v in_o effect_n they_o be_v to_o be_v find_v more_o among_o the_o schoolman_n than_o controvertist_n more_o among_o author_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n than_o protestant_n there_o be_v so_o great_a absurdity_n in_o say_v the_o greek_n be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o consequence_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n suppose_v they_o believe_v it_o that_o mr._n arnaud_n seem_v to_o be_v ashamed_a to_o maintain_v it_o to_o the_o end_n 62._o ibid._n pag._n 62._o he_o turn_v himself_o on_o another_o side_n and_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v the_o docility_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o greek_n which_o will_v not_o permit_v they_o to_o behold_v these_o difficulty_n but_o this_o be_v very_o absurd_o answer_v again_o for_o be_v it_o thus_o the_o greek_n themselves_o will_v at_o least_o tell_v we_o something_o of_o it_o i_o mean_v they_o will_v tell_v we_o themselves_o in_o some_o sort_n that_o they_o know_v well_o all_o these_o consequence_n and_o be_v not_o so_o stupid_a but_o that_o they_o see_v such_o and_o such_o question_n which_o arise_v from_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o substance_n but_o that_o they_o behold_v they_o as_o a_o abyss_n which_o can_v be_v fathom_v or_o to_o use_v mr._n arnaud_n eloquent_a expression_n that_o they_o stifle_v and_o ibid._n ibid._n drown_v all_o humane_a thought_n in_o the_o absolute_a certainty_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o infallible_a authority_n of_o his_o church_n they_o will_v give_v some_o reason_n for_o their_o silence_n and_o endeavour_v to_o hinder_v its_o be_v interpret_v in_o a_o ill_a sense_n they_o will_v instruct_v their_o people_n in_o the_o same_o modesty_n and_o docility_n and_o observe_v that_o their_o conduct_n in_o this_o particular_a be_v more_o discreet_a than_o that_o of_o the_o latin_n and_o this_o be_v what_o the_o greek_n will_v do_v do_v they_o believe_v transubstantiation_n after_o this_o gentle_a and_o quiet_a manner_n mr._n arnaud_n attribute_n to_o they_o yet_o do_v they_o not_o so_o much_o as_o mention_v these_o consequence_n or_o difficulty_n they_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o their_o own_o silence_n in_o this_o respect_n but_o mr._n arnaud_n speak_v for_o they_o without_o any_o call_n or_o order_n from_o they_o he_o tell_v we_o his_o conception_n and_o those_o of_o ernulphus_n a_o english_a bishop_n of_o the_o twelve_o century_n but_o not_o a_o word_n of_o the_o greek_n the_o greek_n be_v in_o such_o a_o absolute_a silence_n on_o this_o subject_a that_o this_o silence_n can_v come_v from_o any_o other_o cause_n than_o the_o nature_n of_o their_o doctrine_n which_o not_o have_v the_o consequence_n of_o transubstantiation_n do_v no_o way_n oblige_v they_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o these_o same_o consequence_n and_o thus_o far_o i_o think_v my_o argument_n may_v pass_v for_o good_a in_o the_o opinion_n of_o those_o people_n that_o understand_v reason_n yet_o mr._n arnaud_n will_v have_v this_o to_o be_v 59_o ibid._n pag._n 59_o mere_a folly_n and_o extravagancy_n and_o to_o show_v it_o to_o be_v so_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o reason_n itself_o show_v we_o we_o must_v not_o disow_v certain_a and_o undoubted_a truth_n under_o pretence_n they_o appear_v contrary_a among_o themselves_o on_o weak_a conjecture_n but_o the_o certainty_n of_o these_o truth_n shall_v make_v we_o conclude_v touch_v the_o falsity_n of_o these_o reason_n and_o pretend_a contrariety_n it_o be_v add_v he_o as_o certain_a a_o truth_n as_o any_o thing_n 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