Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
cause_n blood_n body_n bread_n 1,966 5 8.1709 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A34012 Missa triumphans, or, The triumph of the mass wherein all the sophistical and wily arguments of Mr de Rodon against that thrice venerable sacrifice in his funestuous tract by him called, The funeral of the Mass, are fully, formally, and clearly answered : together with an appendix by way of answer to the translators preface / by F.P.M.O.P. Hib. Collins, William, 17th cent.; F. P. M. O. P. 1675 (1675) Wing C5389; ESTC R5065 231,046 593

There are 5 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

carry_v or_o exhibit_v to_o the_o believer_n upon_o or_o by_o a_o bare_a bit_n of_o bread_n or_o in_o a_o cup_n of_o bare_a wine_n but_o how_o nonsensical_a this_o exposition_n be_v and_o how_o ill_o ground_v in_o true_a divinity_n and_o philoso●…hy_a i_o will_v present_o prove_v but_o first_o i_o will_v have_v the_o reader_n take_v notice_n that_o these_o word_n sacrament_n or_o sign_n have_v if_o not_o a_o predicamental_a at_o least_o a_o transendental_a relation_n to_o the_o thing_n they_o signify_v what_o be_v formal_a in_o relation_n according_a all_o philosopher_n be_v not_o at_o all_o operative_a or_o exhibitive_a but_o only_o mere_a resultative_a in_o order_n to_o the_o thing_n it_o relate_v unto_o as_o for_o example_n a_o father_n be_v a_o relative_n word_n because_o he_o relate_v to_o his_o son_n the_o formality_n of_o this_o word_n father_n consist_v in_o his_o fatherhood_n and_o the_o entity_n or_o subtract_v whereupon_o fatherhood_n rely_v be_v in_o his_o human_a nature_n for_o he_o be_v a_o man_n before_o he_o can_v be_v a_o father_n it_o be_v not_o the_o fatherhood_n which_o be_v the_o formal_a part_n of_o the_o relative_n that_o operate_v or_o exhibite_v a_o be_v to_o the_o son_n which_o be_v his_o correlative_a word_n but_o his_o humane_a nature_n or_o rather_o his_o act_n of_o generation_n and_o the_o fatherhood_n only_o result_v from_o his_o act_n of_o generation_n and_o look_n upon_o the_o filiation_n or_o as_o one_o may_v say_v sonhood_n which_o be_v operate_v or_o exhibit_v by_o a_o forego_n generative_a act_n so_o that_o although_o the_o father_n and_o his_o act_n of_o generation_n be_v elder_a than_o the_o son_n because_o they_o be_v his_o effective_a or_o exhibitive_a cause_n yet_o the_o fatherhood_n be_v not_o elder_a than_o the_o sonhood_n because_o the_o fatherhood_n which_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a relation_n do_v not_o effect_n or_o exhibit_v the_o sonhood_n but_o only_o relate_v or_o look_v upon_o it_o whence_o follow_v clear_o that_o although_o the_o father_n be_v before_o his_o son_n in_o his_o en●…itative_a be_v yet_o he_o be_v not_o a_o father_n before_o he_o have_v a_o son_n or_o child_n in_o his_o fatherhood_n or_o relative_a be_v even_o so_o i_o say_v of_o the_o word_n sacrament_n or_o sign_n which_o be_v also_o relative_a word_n that_o what_o be_v formal_a in_o they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o operative_a or_o exhibitive_a but_o only_o resultative_a because_o they_o only_o behold_v and_o look_v upon_o the_o thing_n they_o signify_v and_o effect_n or_o exhibit_v they_o not_o from_o whence_o follow_v evident_o that_o signification_n which_o be_v the_o formality_n of_o a_o sign_n or_o sacrament_n can_v exhibit_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o believer_n and_o therefore_o if_o any_o thing_n in_o the_o sacrament_n exhibit_v they_o it_o must_v be_v the_o entity_n or_o subtract_v whereupon_o signification_n be_v found_v but_o according_a to_o mr_n de_fw-fr rodon_n the_o entity_n whereupon_o signification_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n be_v found_v be_v but_o bare_a bread_n and_o wine_n which_o entity_n be_v not_o exhibitive_a of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n to_o the_o believer_n i_o demonstrate_v thus_o if_o the_o bare_a entity_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n can_v exhibit_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o believer_n as_o often_o as_o they_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o body_n it_o will_v necessary_a follow_v that_o as_o often_o as_o a_o man_n eat_v or_o drink_v bread_n and_o wine_n they_o convey_v christ_n body_n and_o blood_n into_o his_o soul_n and_o so_o every_o fellow_n that_o drink_v his_o belly_n full_a of_o wine_n although_o he_o drink_v himself_o drink_v especial_o if_o he_o eat_v but_o a_o bit_n of_o bread_n with_o it_o his_o soul_n will_v be_v full_a of_o christ._n but_o it_o be_v both_o impious_a and_o absurd_a to_o say_v that_o christ_n shall_v be_v convey_v into_o a_o drunkard●…_n soul_n after_o this_o manner_n therefore_o the_o doctrine_n that_o teach_v this_o be_v absurd_a and_o impious_a the_o major_a i_o prove_v thus_o all_o the_o entity_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n do_v agree_v if_o not_o specifical_o at_o least_o univocal_o that_o be_v to_o say_v as_o a_o man_n a_o horse_n and_o a_o cow_n be_v true_a and_o real_a animal_n and_o this_o word_n animal_n agree_v proper_o to_o every_o of_o they_o so_o the_o word_n bread_n and_o wine_n be_v say_v true_o and_o proper_o of_o all_o sort_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n and_o they_o all_o agree_v in_o name_n but_o according_a to_o all_o divine_n and_o philosopher_n univocal_a cause_n do_v produce_v effect_n alike_o all_o man_n other_o man_n all_o horse_n other_o horse_n and_o so_o ●…orth_o therefore_o if_o the_o entity_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n agree_v univocal_o as_o certain_o they_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o their_o effect_n must_v be_v all_o alike_o and_o consequent_o if_o the_o bare_a entity_n of_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodons_n communion_n bread_n and_o wine_n for_o their_o signification_n as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v can_v do_v it_o can_v exhibit_v convey_v or_o carry_v christ_n body_n and_o blood_n to_o believer_n the_o entity_n of_o all_o other_o bread_n and_o wine_n can_v do_v so_o also_o for_o they_o agree_v all_o univocaly_a &_o all_o univocal_a cause_n do_v produce_v effect_n a_o like_a therefore_o the_o mounsieur_fw-fr must_v either_o contradict_v all_o philosopher_n and_o be_v the_o only_a philosopher_n himself_o or_o else_o grant_v that_o as_o often_o as_o he_o eat_v and_o drink_v bread_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v perhaps_o too_o much_o and_o too_o often_o in_o a_o day_n he_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n and_o consequent_o if_o as_o often_o as_o he_o take_v bread_n and_o wine_n he_o do_v not_o examine_v himself_o and_o discern_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n according_a to_o the_o apostle_n say_v judicium_fw-la sibi_fw-la mand●…cavit_fw-la &_o ●…ibit_fw-la he_o do_v eat_v it_o as_o judas_n do_v to_o his_o own_o damnation_n what_o impious_a nonsensical_a and_o blasphemous_a doctrine_n this_o be_v let_v any_o rational_a man_n consider_v but_o according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o romanist_n the_o eucharist_n be_v quite_o another_o thing_n they_o say_v that_o bare_a bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o the_o subtract_v or_o foundation_n whereupon_o signification_n rely_v in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o that_o the_o sacramental_a species_n be_v the_o foundation_n whereupon_o signification_n be_v ground_v which_o sacramental_a species_n be_v receive_v worthy_o by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o body_n because_o they_o contain_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n they_o say_v that_o at_o the_o same_o time_n they_o feed_v the_o soul_n also_o because_o they_o have_v a_o spiritual_a exhibitive_a faculty_n to_o convey_v christ_n into_o the_o soul_n and_o work_v upon_o she_o by_o unite_n her_o to_o christ_n and_o make_v she_o one_o os_fw-la his_o mystical_a member_n and_o thus_o the_o soul_n by_o feed_v upon_o his_o body_n now_o glorify_v and_o impatible_a if_o she_o receive_v he_o worthy_o he_o change_v her_o affection_n whole_o into_o himself_o and_o as_o it_o be_v incorporate_n she_o for_o all_o the_o delight_n of_o a_o devout_a soul_n be_v to_o be_v whole_o unite_v and_o absorb_v in_o christ_n and_o yet_o his_o body_n be_v now_o impatible_a and_o glorify_a receive_v no_o damage_n or_o harm_n thereby_o more_o than_o the_o sun_n do_v by_o cast_v his_o beam_n upon_o a_o dunghill_n and_o although_o faith_n be_v necessary_a in_o he_o that_o eat_v this_o bread_n we_o say_v that_o hope_n and_o charity_n must_v also_o accompany_v this_o morsel_n unless_o a_o man_n eat_v it_o to_o his_o damnatian_n for_o faith_n alone_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o give_v it_o a_o relish_n in_o the_o soul._n the_o royal_a prophet_n call_v it_o the_o bread_n of_o angel_n for_o it_o feed_v their_o spirit_n also_o which_o if_o it_o be_v but_o the_o mere_a entity_n of_o bread_n it_o can_v not_o do_v for_o they_o never_o eat_v wafer_n nor_o baker_n bread_n nor_o drink_v of_o the_o entity_n of_o our_o corporal_a wine_n neither_o do_v they_o eat_v the_o sacrament_n itself_o by_o the_o mouth_n of_o faith_n as_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n will_v have_v our_o soul_n to_o eat_v it_o here_o for_o if_o we_o believe_v the_o apostle_n there_o be_v neither_o faith_n nor_o hope_n in_o heaven_n where_o the_o angel_n be_v but_o only_a charity_n and_o since_o we_o be_v come_v to_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o soul_n faith_n for_o so_o the_o mounsieur_fw-fr call_v it_o saying_n by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o soul_n viz._n by_o faith_n i_o wish_v he_o will_v show_v we_o either_o by_o the_o common_a usage_n of_o speak_v or_o in_o true_a philosophy_n that_o faith_n be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o soul._n if_o he_o take_v the_o word_n mouth_n literal_o the_o soul_n be_v a_o pure_a
fill_v with_o his_o precious_a blood_n and_o consequent_o vessel_n full_a of_o operative_a grace_n for_o otherwise_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o old_a law_n will_v be_v of_o as_o much_o value_n and_o worth_a as_o those_o of_o the_o new_a and_o so_o christ_n new_a sacrament_n will_v be_v institute_v in_o vain_a which_o will_v be_v a_o great_a derogation_n to_o to_o his_o infinite_a wisdom_n and_o consequent_o blasphemous_a to_o assert_v therefore_o although_o circumcision_n the_o passover_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o old_a sacrament_n be_v but_o mere_a token_n or_o sign_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o baptism_n the_o rest_n of_o christ_n sacrament_n and_o especial_o the_o eucharist_n which_o be_v particularise_v and_o point_v at_o with_o the_o pronoune_n demonstrative_a hoc_fw-la be_v but_o mere_a sign_n for_o as_o baptism_n and_o so_o i_o say_v of_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o christ_n sacrament_n be_v not_o only_o a_o sign_n of_o the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n as_o the_o mounsieur_fw-fr call_v it_o but_o also_o the_o instrumental_a cause_n of_o regeneration_n so_o the_o eucharist_n or_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o eucharistical_a cup_n be_v not_o only_o a_o sacrament_n or_o sign_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_v but_o also_o his_o real_a body_n and_o blood_n as_o he_o himself_o say_v it_o be_v in_o most_o plain_a and_o express_v term_n without_o use_v any_o figurative_a expression_n especial_o concern_v the_o consecration_n of_o the_o bread_n where_o there_o be_v no_o need_n of_o a_o figure_n and_o consequent_o the_o mounsieurs_fw-fr sly_a and_o sophistical_a illative_n viz._n because_o it_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o it_o and_o because_o it_o be_v the_o sign_n seal_n and_o sacrament_n of_o it_o be_v sufficient_o answer_v and_o quash_v for_o his_o because_n be_v not_o the_o entire_a and_o adequate_a cause_n that_o constitute_v sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a law_n for_o beside_o their_o signification_n or_o be_v sign_n of_o grace_n they_o be_v also_o real_a causer_n of_o it_o and_o the_o eucharist_n principal_o because_o it_o be_v both_o sacramentum_fw-la &_o res_fw-la the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o thing_n itself_o rodon_n 5._o three_o i_o answer_v that_o in_o holy_a scripture_n testament_n be_v not_o always_o express_v in_o proper_a term_n without_o a_o figure_n for_o the_o testament_n of_o jacob_n gen._n 49._o and_o that_o of_o moses_n deut._n 33._o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o a_o chain_n of_o metaphor_n and_o other_o figure_n ●…nd_v civilian_o will_v have_v it_o that_o in_o testament_n we_o shall_v not_o regard_v the_o proper_a significati●…n_n of_o the_o word_n but_o th●…_n inte●…ion_n of_o the_o testator_n to_o this_o i_o add_v that_o jesus_n christ_n do_v not_o make_v the_o new_a testament_n and_o the_o new_a covenant_n but_o only_o institute_v the_o seal_n &_o sacrament_n of_o they_o for_o the_o covenant_n w●…_n make_v with_o all_o mankind_n in_o the_o person_n of_o adam_n after_o the_o fall_n when_o god_n promise_v he_o that_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n shall_v break_v the_o serpent_n head_n this_o be_v afterward_o renewe●…_n with_o abraham_n when_o god_n promise_v he_o that_o in_o his_o seed_n all_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o earth_n shall_v be_v bless_v viz._n in_o christ_n the_o bless_a s●…ed_n who_o have_v destroy_v the_o kingdom_n of_o satan_n after_o this_o it_o be_v confirm_v by_o the_o blood_n of_o chris●…_n shed_v on_o the_o cross_n than_o it_o be_v publish_v through_o all_o the_o world_n when_o the_o apostle_n have_v recei●…ved_v the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o last_o baptism_n and_o the_o eucharist_n be_v the_o sign_n seal_n and_o sacrament_n of_o it_o answ._n we_o grant_v that_o for_o the_o better_a expression_n of_o thing_n in_o testament_n and_o covenant_n figure_n may_v be_v use_v and_o for_o that_o reason_n they_o be_v sometime_o nay_o often_o use_v in_o holy_a scripture_n yet_o to_o use_v amphibology_n and_o figure_n in_o testament_n covenant_n or_o sacrament_n without_o necessity_n and_o when_o they_o can_v be_v otherwise_o as_o clear_o or_o better_o express_v in_o plain_a and_o proper_a word_n we_o hold_v neither_o convenient_a or_o lawful_a for_o else_o how_o can_v the_o civilian_n themselves_o who_o great_a patron_n de_fw-fr rodon_n be_v penetrate_v or_o dive_v into_o the_o testator_n intention_n sure_o this_o be_v the_o high_a way_n to_o set_v all_o the_o world_n together_o by_o the_o ●…ars_n this_o be_v the_o way_n to_o wrong_v and_o undo_v poor_a widow_n and_o orphan_n the_o way_n to_o break_v and_o distract_v haman_fw-mi society_n and_o to_o fill_v mr._n de_fw-fr rodons_n favourite_n the_o civilian_o pocket_n with_o ill-gott-gold_n god_n law_n and_o testament_n will_v be_v so_o envelop_v and_o fold_v up_o in_o obscure_a figure_n and_o trope_n that_o scarce_o any_o body_n can_v have_v a_o glimpse_n of_o they_o even_o in_o our_o time_n of_o the_o evangelical_n law_n which_o be_v call_v the_o law_n of_o grace_n de_fw-fr rodon_n then_o must_v of_o necessity_n make_v way_n for_o this_o weapon_n as_o i_o have_v order_v it_o or_o else_o by_o enrich_v his_o dear_a civilian_n he_o will_v quite_o ruin_v and_o destroy_v not_o only_o thousand_o of_o poor_a honest_a people_n but_o also_o human_a society_n and_o all_o christian_a soul_n but_o if_o neither_o he_o nor_o the_o translator_n his_o survivor_n be_v able_a to_o break_v this_o thrust_n as_o i_o be_o sure_a they_o be_v not_o than_o will_v they_o be_v force_v to_o submit_v to_o the_o romish_a doctor_n mercy_n as_o to_o the_o mounsieurs_fw-fr additionate_n reason_n viz._n that_o jesus_n christ_n do_v not_o then_o make_v the_o new_a testament_n and_o the_o new_a covenant_n but_o only_o institute_v the_o seal_n and_o sacrament_n of_o they_o for_o the_o covenant_n be_v make_v with_o all_o mankind_n in_o the_o person_n of_o adam_n after_o the_o fall_n when_o god_n promise_v that_o the_o seed_n of_o the_o woman_n shall_v break_v the_o serpent_n head_n etc._n etc._n to_o this_o additionate_n reason_n which_o be_v but_o one_o of_o mr_n de_fw-fr rodons_n start-hole_n to_o save_v himself_o i_o answer_v that_o whatever_o the_o testament_n or_o covenant_n between_o god_n and_o adam_n be_v christ_n himself_o call_v the_o eucharist_n novum_n testamentum_fw-la in_o meo_fw-la sanguine_fw-la this_o be_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o my_o blood_n if_o it_o be_v a_o new_a testament_n or_o covenant_n how_o can_v it_o be_v the_o testament_n or_o covenant_n make_v with_o adam_n or_o do_v christ_n make_v any_o testament_n or_o covenant_n with_o any_o body_n else_o before_o adam_n that_o his_o covenant_n or_o testament_n with_o adam_n may_v be_v call_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o christ_n blood_n christ_n say_v not_o this_o be_v the_o sign_n or_o seal_n of_o my_o new_a testament_n or_o covenant_n as_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n gloss_v he_o but_o perhaps_o de_fw-fr rodon_n the_o great_a civilian_n understand_v the_o testator_n intention_n better_o than_o he_o be_v able_a to_o express_v himself_o for_o christ_n the_o testatour_n speak_v but_o plain_o and_o ordinary_o and_o he_o understand_v he_o figurative_o elegant_o and_o rhetorical_o who_o then_o can_v say_v but_o that_o this_o grand_a civilian_n receive_v his_o fee_n i_o be_o sure_a he_o deserve_v it_o and_o a_o good_a one_o too_o rodon_n 6._o four_o i_o answer_v that_o if_o by_o these_o word_n to_o speak_v clear_o and_o plain_o be_v understand_v to_o speak_v intelligible_o s●…_n that_o the_o apostle_n may_v and_o ought_v understand_v what_o he_o say_v to_o they_o than_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o jesus_n christ_n do_v speak_v clear_o for_o to_o speak_v sacramental_o and_o according_a to_o the_o stile_n use_v in_o all_o sacrament_n be_v to_o speak_v clear_o and_o not_o obscure_o but_o if_o by_o these_o word_n to_o speak_v clear_o be_v understand_v to_o speak_v without_o a_o figure_n than_o it_o be_v false_a that_o he_o always_o sp●…ke_v to_o his_o disciple_n wittness_v the_o call_v his_o disciple_n to_o who_o he_o say_v math._n 4._o follow_v i_o and_o i_o will_v make_v you_o fisher_n of_o man_n and_o when_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o you_o be_v the_o salt_n of_o the_o earth_n and_o the_o light_n of_o the_o world_n etc._n etc._n to_o this_o i_o add_v the_o apostle_n do_v ask_v jesus_n christ_n the_o meaning_n of_o parable_n and_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v and_o therefore_o certain_o they_o have_v much_o more_o reason_n to_o ask_v the_o meaning_n of_o so_o many_o strange_a thing_n as_o follow_v from_o the_o mass_n from_o transubstantiation_n and_o from_o the_o pretend_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o host_n viz._n how_o a_o human_a body_n can_v be_v in_o a_o point_n and_o in_o divers_a place_n at_o once_o how_o the_o head_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o his_o whole_a body_n can_v be_v in_o his_o mouth_n how_o accident_n can_v be_v without_o a_o subject_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i_o do_v not_o
natural_a death_n of_o jesus_n christ_n for_o jesus_n christ_n die_v no_o more_o rom._n 6._o therefore_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n do_v not_o comprehend_v that_o which_o be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o consequent_o differ_v from_o it_o essential_o and_o not_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o manner_n only_o answ._n to_o this_o reply_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o according_a to_o all_o philosopher_n what_o be_v essential_a to_o any_o thing_n if_o it_o be_v abstract_v or_o take_v away_o the_o thing_n can_v be_v understand_v without_o it_o for_o example_n if_o you_o take_v away_o animality_n or_o rationality_n from_o a_o man_n man_n can_v be_v understand_v because_o animality_n and_o rationality_n belong_v to_o his_o essence_n for_o the_o essence_n of_o any_o thing_n be_v the_o very_a first_o that_o be_v conceive_v of_o it_o but_o a_o sacrifice_n yea_o a_o rigorous_a sacrifice_n too_o may_v be_v well_o understand_v without_o death_n for_o death_n enter_v not_o into_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n be_v there_o be_v many_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o old_a law_n of_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o die_v viz._n of_o oil_n meal_n bread_n wine_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o they_o be_v rigorous_a sacrifice_n for_o the_o thing_n offer_v be_v sensible_a and_o destroy_v therefore_o as_o what_o be_v not_o essential_a to_o man_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o peter_n or_o to_o paul_n so_o what_o be_v not_o essential_a to_o sacrifice_v in_o its_o whole_a univocal_a latitude_n can_v be_v essential_a to_o this_o sacrifice_n or_o to_o that_o and_o be_v death_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o sacrifice_v ut_fw-la sic_fw-la as_o schoolman_n call_v it_o that_o be_v to_o sacrifice_v in_o its_o whole_a extent_n and_o latitude_n it_o can_v make_v but_o a_o accidental_a difference_n between_o the_o same_o sacrifice_n offer_v bloody_o and_o unbloudy_o because_o all_o essential_a difference_n proceed_v from_o different_a form_n and_o therefore_o since_o all_o rigorous_a sacrifice_n agree_v univocal_o in_o the_o same_o reason_n or_o form_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n it_o follow_v evident_o that_o to_o be_v sacrifice_v bloody_o or_o unbloudy_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a accidental_a difference_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n second_o i_o answer_v distinguish_v the_o minor_a viz._n but_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n do_v not_o comprehend_v the_o natural_a death_n of_o jesus_n christ._n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n do_v not_o comprehend_v the_o death_n of_o jesus_n christ_n actual_o and_o practical_o i_o confess_v speculative_o significative_o commemorative_o and_o applicative_o i_o deny_v and_o the_o consequence_n also_o for_o christ_n institute_v this_o sacrament_n not_o only_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n or_o type_n of_o his_o bloody_a sacrifice_n but_o also_o to_o be_v a_o commemoration_n and_o daily_a application_n thereof_o and_o therefore_o he_o say_v to_o his_o apostle_n as_o often_o as_o you_o do_v this_o do_v it_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o rodon_n second_o because_o the_o representation_n of_o a_o thing_n differ_v essential_o from_o the_o thing_n represent_v for_o example_n the_o king_n picture_n differ_v essential_o from_o the_o king_n also_o the_o memorial_n of_o a_o thing_n differ_v essential_o from_o the_o thing_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o memorial_n for_o example_n the_o celebration_n of_o the_o passover_n which_o be_v a_o memorial_n of_o the_o angel_n favourable_a pass_v over_o the_o house_n of_o the_o israelit_n differ_v essential_o from_o that_o pass_v over_o and_o last_o the_o application_n of_o a_o thing_n differ_v essential_o from_o it_o for_o example_n the_o application_n of_o a_o plaster_n differ_v essential_o from_o the_o plaster_n but_o aceord_v to_o the_o determination_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n in_o sess_v 22._o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v representative_a commemorative_n and_o applicative_a of_o that_o of_o the_o cross_n therefore_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n differ_v essential_o from_o that_o of_o the_o cross._n answ._n to_o the_o second_o part_n of_o this_o reply_n i_o say_v that_o the_o representation_n of_o a_o thing_n need_v not_o always_o differ_v essential_o from_o the_o thing_n represent_v in_o essendo_fw-la as_o schoolman_n call_v it_o in_o its_o natural_a essence_n or_o be_v but_o only_o in_o representando_fw-la in_o its_o representative_a or_o significative_a be_v for_o example_n when_o a_o angel_n understand_v himself_o or_o represent_v his_o own_o be_v to_o himself_o sure_o it_o be_v that_o his_o be_v be_v not_o essential_o different_a from_o himself_o in_o essendo_fw-la although_o his_o be_v be_v essential_o different_a in_o representando_fw-la from_o the_o form_n or_o species_n wherewith_o he_o understand_v himself_o the_o same_o thing_n we_o say_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n that_o it_o differ_v from_o that_o of_o the_o cross_n in_o its_o significative_a or_o representative_a be_v and_o in_o its_o application_n also_o from_o whence_o follow_v not_o that_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o m●…ss_n be_v essential_o different_a from_o that_o of_o the_o cross_n in_o its_o natural_a entity_n or_o be_v and_o be_v it_o be_v the_o selfsame_a essence_n which_o be_v sacrifice_v in_o both_o the_o distinction_n or_o difference_n can_v be_v in_o essendo_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o entity_n of_o both_o sacrifice_n but_o only_o in_o representando_fw-la vel_fw-la applicando_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o their_o representation_n or_o application_n just_o as_o i_o say_v before_o that_o a_o man_n in_o his_o old_a age_n may_v well_o represent_v himself_o or_o his_o childish_a action_n when_o he_o be_v young_a and_o yet_o he_o differ_v not_o essential_o in_o his_o old_a age_n from_o himself_o while_o he_o be_v young_a for_o otherwise_o he_o will_v not_o be_v the_o same_o man_n and_o so_o this_o consequence_n be_v also_o blow_v rodon_n three_o because_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a value_n and_o consequent_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v reiterated_a for_o its_o value_n be_v infinite_a it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o take_v away_o all_o sin_n past_a present_a and_o to_o come_v as_o bellarmin_n say_v book_n 1._o of_o the_o mass._n chap._n 4._o but_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v of_o a_o finite_a price_n and_o value_n according_a to_o the_o same_o bellarmin_n and_o other_o romish_a doctor_n at_o which_o we_o may_v just_o wonder_v see_v as_o our_o adversary_n say_v it_o differ_v not_o from_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n either_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o thing_n sacrifice_v or_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o chief_a priest_n and_o yet_o from_o these_o the_o sacrifice_n have_v all_o its_o price_n and_o value_n answ._n to_o the_o three_o part_n of_o this_o reply_n i_o say_v that_o although_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a value_n and_o sufficient_a to_o take_v away_o all_o sin_n past_a present_a and_o to_o come_v yet_o no_o inconvenience_n follow_v of_o its_o be_v reiterated_a unbloudy_o though_o it_o will_v follow_v if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v reiterated_a bloody_o which_o we_o abhor_v as_o much_o as_o to_o think_v of_o i_o say_v also_o that_o as_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n be_v of_o a_o infinite_a value_n and_o price_n so_o be_v also_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n as_o to_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v sacrifice_v viz._n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n though_o it_o be_v but_o of_o a_o finite_a or_o limit_a value_n as_o to_o the_o priest_n or_o sacrificer_n and_o bellarmin_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o romish_a doctor_n say_v the_o like_a and_o no_o more_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o just_a cause_n of_o wonder_v that_o christ_n who_o be_v both_o the_o high_a priest_n and_o sacrifice_n too_o shall_v offer_v this_o sacrifice_n bloody_o upon_o the_o cross_n and_o unbloudy_o upon_o the_o altar_n as_o he_o do_v when_o he_o first_o institute_v it_o and_o that_o his_o sacrifice_n shall_v be_v of_o a_o infinite_a price_n and_o value_n because_o of_o the_o dignity_n of_o his_o person_n though_o the_o same_o sacrifice_n as_o it_o be_v offer_v by_o all_o other_o priest_n who_o be_v but_o his_o substitute_n be_v not_o of_o a_o infinite_a value_n their_o person_n though_o never_o so_o holy_a be_v infinite_o unequal_a in_o worth_n and_o dignity_n to_o his_o and_o yet_o as_o to_o the_o thing_n sacrifice_v by_o they_o viz._n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v of_o as_o infinite_a a_o value_n and_o price_n as_o that_o which_o christ_n himself_o offer_v be_v and_o no_o man_n of_o reason_n and_o belief_n wonder_v at_o it_o rodon_n 19_o second_o i_o say_v that_o a_o unbloudy_a propitiatory_a sacrifice_n be_v a_o feign_a and_o a_o imaginary_a thing_n and_o thus_o the_o argument_n draw_v from_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n do_v whole_o destroy_v it_o answ._n i_o say_v this_o proposition_n of_o the_o
your_o consequence_n to_o be_v but_o frivolous_a and_o strange_a therefore_o to_o the_o first_o part_n of_o this_o three_o principal_a reply_n of_o you_o i_o answer_v also_o that_o the_o mediate_a representation_n commemoration_n and_o application_n which_o you_o find_v out_o in_o a_o good_a sense_n to_o be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n or_o mass_n we_o be_v glad_a you_o find_v some_o good_a thing_n in_o it_o if_o it_o contain_v any_o such_o good_a thing_n it_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o a_o immediate_a representation_n commemoration_n and_o application_n according_a to_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o council_n of_o trent_n meaning_n may_v be_v also_o find_v in_o it_o which_o immediate_a representation_n commemoration_n and_o application_n because_o they_o be_v of_o far_o more_o efficacy_n and_o virtue_n than_o the_o former_a be_v they_o may_v be_v very_o well_o call_v a_o true_a proper_a sacrifice_n propitiatory_a for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o live_n and_o dead_a which_o propitiatory_a sacrifice_n mr._n de_fw-fr rodon_n have_v not_o as_o yet_o refute_v nor_o will_v be_v ever_o able_a to_o do_v have_v all_o the_o holy_a father_n and_o practice_v of_o god_n church_n against_o he_o rodon_n second_o i_o say_v that_o the_o application_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n may_v be_v consider_v on_o god_n part_n or_o on_o man_n part_n on_o god_n part_n when_o he_o offer_v jesus_n christ_n to_o we_o with_o all_o his_o benefit_n both_o in_o his_o word_n and_o sacrament_n on_o man_n part_n when_z by_z a_o true_a and_o lively_a faith_n work_v by_o love_n we_o embrace_v jesus_n christ_n with_o all_o his_o benefit_n offer_v to_o we_o both_o in_o his_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o this_o be_v that_o jesus_n christ_n teach_v we_o s._n john_n 3._o in_o these_o word_n as_o moses_n lift_v up_o the_o serpent_n in_o the_o wilderness_n even_o so_o must_v the_o son_n of_o man_n be_v lift_v up_o viz._n to_o die_v that_o whosoever_o believe_v in_o he_o shall_v not_o perish_v but_o have_v everlasting_a life_n he_o do_v not_o say_v whosoever_o sacrifice_v he_o in_o the_o mass_n but_o whosoever_o believe_v etc._n etc._n and_o s._n paul_n show_v it_o clear_o in_o these_o word_n god_n have_v set_v forth_o jesus_n christ_n to_o be_v a_o propitiation_n through_o faith_n in_o his_o blood_n he_o do_v not_o say_v through_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n but_o through_o faith_n and_o we_o real_o and_o true_o apply_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n cross_n when_o we_o have_v recourse_n to_o he_o as_o a_o man_n apply_v a_o pluister_n when_o he_o have_v recourse_n to_o it_o and_o lay_v it_o on_o the_o wound_n but_o the_o recourse_n or_o refuge_n of_o a_o penitent_a sinne●…_n to_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n for_o obtain_v mercy_n from_o god_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o faith_n as_o for_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o sacramental_a and_o natural_a be_v of_o jesus_n christ_n it_o have_v be_v already_o refu●…ed_v in_o the_o 6._o number_n answ._n this_o second_o part_n of_o his_o reply_n i_o answer_v thus_o that_o christ_n be_v offer_v not_o to_o we_o as_o the_o mounsieur_fw-fr ses_fw-fr but_o for_o we_o as_o the_o holy_a evangelist_n tell_v we_o we_o ought_v on_o our_o part_n by_o a_o true_a and_o lively_a faith_n to_o embrace_v he_o with_o all_o his_o benefit_n offer_v we_o by_o virtue_n of_o his_o passion_n both_o in_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o since_o by_o his_o word_n we_o be_v to_o believe_v that_o it_o be_v his_o body_n which_o be_v offer_v for_o we_o in_o the_o sacrament_n we_o ought_v to_o believe_v it_o without_o any_o stagger_a or_o hesitation_n because_o he_o himself_o say_v absolute_o this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o as_o in_o s._n john_n the_o three_o be_v say_v that_o as_o moses_n lift_v up_o the_o serpent_n in_o the_o wilderness_n even_o so_o must_v the_o son_n of_o man_n be_v lift_v up_o so_o must_v we_o also_o believe_v that_o he_o be_v lift_v up_o bloody_o on_o the_o cross_n and_o be_v lift_v up_o daily_o unbloudy_o in_o the_o mass_n for_o our_o sin_n because_o our_o mother_n the_o church_n command_v we_o so_o to_o believe_v and_o christ_n say_v he_o that_o hear_v not_o the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n math._n 18._o however_o although_o belief_n be_v a_o condition_n requisite_a that_o the_o virtue_n of_o christ_n passion_n and_o his_o sacrament_n shall_v be_v apply_v unto_o we_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o the_o principal_a cause_n of_o our_o sanctification_n but_o christ_n body_n offer_v upon_o the_o cross_n and_o in_o the_o sacrament_n for_o christ_n body_n offer_v for_o we_o be_v the_o principal_a cause_n of_o our_o salvation_n and_o the_o heal_a plaster_n which_o be_v apply_v to_o a_o sick_a soul_n to_o hea●…_n her_o spiritual_a wound_n and_o faith_n whether_o it_o be_v actual_a or_o habitual_a can_v alone_o do_v the_o deed_n and_o consequent_o s._n paul_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v where_o he_o say_v god_n have_v set_v forth_o jesus_n christ_n to_o be_v a_o propitiation_n through_o faith_n in_o his_o blood_n must_v be_v understand_v through_o faith_n as_o a_o condition_n requisite_a and_o not_o through_o faith_n as_o the_o principal_a cause_n in_o his_o blood_n for_o the_o principal_a cause_n of_o propitiation_n be_v christ_n body_n and_o blood_n offer_v for_o we_o once_o bloody_o upon_o the_o cross_n and_o daily_o offer_v for_o we_o in_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n so_o that_o although_o the_o apostle_n say_v not_o explicit_o through_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n yet_o he_o say_v it_o implicit_o because_o christ_n blood_n be_v there_o offer_v and_o so_o there_o be_v a_o end_n to_o all_o mr._n de_fw-fr rodons_n reply_n as_o to_o the_o distinction_n concern_v the_o natural_a and_o sacramental_a be_v of_o jesus_n christ_n the_o prudent_a reader_n may_v judge_v whether_o its_o refutation_n be_v not_o sufficient_o answer_v by_o i_o where_o i_o solve_v all_o his_o argument_n of_o the_o say_v six_o number_n rodon_n 21._o i_o shall_v conclude_v this_o discourse_n with_o the_o testimony_n of_o thomas_n aquinas_n the_o most_o famous_a of_o all_o the_o doctor_n of_o the_o romish_a d●…ctors_n and_o call_v by_o our_o adversary_n the_o angelical_a doctor_n this_o thomas_n in_o part_n 3._o quest._n 8._o art_n 1._o have_v propose_v this_o question_n viz._n whether_o christ_n be_v sacrifice_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n he_o conclude_v wi●…e_v these_o memorable_a word_n the_o celebration_n of_o this_o sacrament_n be_v very_o fit_o call_v a_o sacrifice_a of_o christ_n as_o well_o because_o it_o be_v the_o representation_n of_o christ_n passion_n as_o because_o by_o this_o sacrament_n we_o be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o lord_n passion_n and_o afterward_o he_o give_v his_o answer_n in_o these_o word_n i_o answer_v we_o must_v say_v that_o the_o celebration_n of_o this_o sacrament_n be_v call_v a_o sacrifice_n of_o christ_n in_o two_o respect_n first_o because_o as_o augustin_n to_o simplicius_fw-la say_v we_o be_v wont_n to_o give_v to_o image_n the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n whereof_o they_o be_v image_n as_o when_o we_o see_v picture_n on_o a_o wall_n or_o in_o a_o frame_n we_o say_v this_o be_v cicero_n this_o be_v sallust_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o celebration_n of_o this_o sacrament_n as_o have_v be_v say_v above_o be_v a_o representative_a image_n of_o christ_n passion_n which_o passion_n be_v the_o true_a sacrifice_v of_o christ_n and_o so_o the_o celebration_n of_o this_o sacrament_n be_v the_o sacrifice_a of_o christ._n second_o the_o celebration_n of_o this_o sacrament_n be_v call_v the_o sacrifice_a of_o christ_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o effect_n of_o christ_n passion_n because_o by_o this_o sacrament_n we_o be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o lord_n passion_n let_v the_o romanist_n keep_v to_o this_o decision_n of_o their_o angelical_a doctor_n and_o we_o shall_v agree_v with_o they_o in_o this_o point_n for_o i_o be_o confident_a that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o of_o the_o reform_a religion_n but_o will_v subscribe_v to_o this_o true_a doctrine_n of_o thomas_n aquinas_n answ._n will_v you_o indeed_o mounsieur_fw-fr this_o proffer_n i_o confess_v be_v fair_a but_o i_o doubt_v much_o whether_o you_o and_o you_o will_v stand_v to_o his_o arbitration_n as_o to_o this_o point_n as_o for_o my_o own_o part_n i_o take_v he_o to_o be_v one_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a doctor_n of_o our_o church_n and_o worthy_a to_o be_v call_v angelical_a both_o for_o his_o excellency_n in_o learning_n especial_o concern_v the_o b._n sacrament_n and_o for_o his_o purity_n of_o life_n therefore_o i_o wish_v you_o and_o your_o party_n will_v follow_v his_o opinion_n and_o choose_v he_o umpire_n betwixt_o you_o and_o we_o concern_v this_o high_a question_n we_o dispute_v of_o for_o never_o
copious_a in_o expound_v of_o word_n as_o you_o see_v though_o none_o of_o they_o can_v help_v he_o out_o of_o his_o straits_n or_o necessity_n in_o a_o philosophical_a or_o theological_a sense_n nay_o nor_o in_o a_o grammatical_a also_o for_o i_o grant_v he_o bring_v instead_o of_o bring_v and_o let_v he_o make_v three_o several_a proposition_n of_o our_o one_o and_o yet_o all_o can_v serve_v his_o turn_n as_o i_o show_v immediate_o before_o but_o he_o to_o recompense_v our_o bounty_n regratify_v we_o and_o say_v that_o although_o this_o hebrew_n word_n shall_v signify_v bring_v to_o offer_v and_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v take_v for_o offer_a yet_o we_o will_v gain_v nothing_o by_o it_o for_o it_o be_v not_o say_v in_o the_o text_n that_o he_o bring_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o offer_v unto_o god_n but_o to_o be_v offer_v and_o present_v unto_o abraham_n for_o so_o he_o will_v have_v it_o understand_v but_o good_a mounsieur_fw-fr the_o text_n make_v express_v mention_n of_o melchisedeck_n be_v a_o priest_n and_o he_o be_v a_o priest_n thus_o you_o translate_v it_o yourself_o but_o why_o do_v the_o text_n make_v mention_n of_o his_o priesthood_n but_o in_o order_n to_o a_o sacrifice_n if_o in_o order_n to_o a_o sacrifice_n because_o priest_n and_o sacrifice_n be_v always_o correlative_n than_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v to_o god_n and_o not_o to_o abraham_n for_o otherwise_o melchisedeck_v will_v be_v a_o idolater_n therefore_o if_o the_o word_n bring_v signify_v bring_v to_o offer_v and_o if_o the_o offering_n be_v do_v by_o a_o priest_n why_o may_v not_o this_o offering_n be_v think_v a_o sacrifice_n and_o if_o a_o sacrifice_n then_o be_v offer_v by_o such_o a_o priest_n as_o melchisedeck_v be_v it_o be_v most_o certain_a he_o offer_v it_o to_o god_n and_o not_o to_o abraham_n as_o to_o your_o proof_n of_o scripture_n to_o strengthen_v your_o reason_n that_o melchisedeck_v offer_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o abraham_n and_o bless_v he_o we_o agree_v with_o you_o as_o to_o the_o late_a part_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v abraham_n that_o be_v blessed_v by_o melchisedeck_v but_o we_o deny_v that_o if_o melchisedeck_v have_v sacrifice_v bread_n and_o wine_n unto_o god_n that_o the_o pronoun_n relative_n he_o can_v not_o relate_v to_o abraham_n but_o to_o god_n against_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o we_o say_v and_o so_o do_v our_o famous_a grammarian_n lily_n also_o that_o the_o relative_a he_o may_v relate_v either_o to_o the_o former_a or_o to_o the_o late_a thing_n mention_v before_a in_o the_o precedent_a sent●…e_n rodon_n 23._o three_o i_o answer_v that_o melchisedeck_v bring_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o abraham_n to_o refresh_v he_o and_o his_o people_n and_o not_o to_o offer_v unto_o god_n bellarmin_n in_o book_n 1._o of_o the_o mass._n chap._n 6._o confess_v that_o melchisedeck_v bring_v br●…d_v and_o wine_n to_o abraham_n to_o refresh_v he_o and_o his_o people_n who_o return_v faint_a and_o feeble_a from_o the_o slaughter_n of_o the_o king_n which_o be_v true_a but_o he_o add_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v offer_v it_o to_o god_n before_o which_o be_v false_a and_o can_v be_v prove_v jerome_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o evagrius_n write_v that_o the_o jew_n understand_v it_o that_o melchisedeck_v meeting_n abraham_n after_o his_o victory_n bring_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o refresh_v he_o and_o his_o people_n josephus_n write_v this_o history_n say_v that_o melchisedeck_v present_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o abraham_n to_o refresh_v he_o and_o his_o army_n damascen_n book_n 4._o of_o the_o orthodox_n faith_n say_v that_o melchisedeck_v treat_v abraham_n with_o bread_n and_o wine_n answ._n doubtless_o this_o mounsieur_fw-fr must_n needs_o be_v some_o great_a rabbin_z in_o his_o own_o or_o in_o his_o party_n opinion_n for_o he_o speak_v so_o confident_o and_o masterlike_o as_o if_o all_o his_o sentence_n be_v oracle_n he_o think_v all_o the_o world_n be_v bind_v to_o believe_v what_o he_o say_v without_o give_v any_o reason_n why_o or_o wherefore_o he_o say_v that_o melchisedec_n bring_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o abraham_n to_o refresh_v he_o and_o his_o people_n and_o not_o to_o offer_v unto_o god_n we_o must_v believe_v he_o because_o he_o say_v it_o though_o he_o give_v no_o reason_n nor_o authority_n of_o any_o body_n of_o note_n why_o he_o say_v bellarmin_n in_o his_o 1._o book_n of_o the_o mass_n chap._n 6._o confess_v that_o melchisedeck_v bring_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o abraham_n to_o refresh_v he_o and_o his_o people_n who_o return_v faint_a and_o tire_v from_o the_o slaughter_n of_o the_o king_n so_o we_o say_v too_o he_o say_v that_o s._n jerome_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o evagrius_n write_v that_o the_o jew_n understand_v it_o that_o melchisedeck_v meeting_n abraham_n after_o his_o victory_n bring_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o refresh_v he_o and_o his_o people_n what_o if_o they_o do_v understand_v it_o so_o may_v he_o not_o have_v refresh_v they_o with_o his_o bread_n and_o wine_n after_o offer_v it_o to_o god_n before_o or_o may_v he_o not_o have_v refresh_v they_o with_o his_o consecrate_a bread_n and_o wine_n the_o same_o i_o say_v concern_v josephus_n and_o concern_v damascens_n word_n but_o why_o do_v not_o the_o mounsieur_fw-fr as_o he_o ought_v prove_v that_o melchisedeck_v do_v not_o offer_v his_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o god_n before_o he_o bring_v it_o draw_v it_o out_o cause_v to_o be_v bring_v cause_v it_o to_o come_v etc._n etc._n for_o these_o be_v his_o word_n before_o abraham_n and_o his_o people_n the_o mounsieur_fw-fr be_v here_o the_o oppugner_n he_o be_v to_o destroy_v our_o objection_n wherefore_o then_o do_v he_o not_o prove_v it_o certain_o if_o his_o translator_n be_v not_o a_o very_a partial_a man_n he_o can_v never_o have_v say_v in_o his_o preface_n that_o de_fw-fr rodon_n have_v by_o way_n of_o prevention_n destroy_v all_o the_o argument_n make_v use_v of_o by_o the_o romish_a doctor_n for_o the_o restore_n and_o re-establish_a of_o our_o diana_n or_o mass_n for_o i_o be_o sure_a all_o his_o prevention_n hitherto_o be_v by_o i_o sufficient_o retort_v upon_o himself_o in_o this_o treatise_n and_o if_o his_o translator_n have_v a_o mind_n to_o second_v or_o vindicate_v he_o i_o trust_v so_o much_o in_o the_o goodness_n of_o our_o cause_n that_o i_o doubt_v not_o with_o god_n help_n but_o to_o give_v he_o a_o full_a and_o sufficient_a answer_n also_o rodon_n 24._o four_o the_o reason_n of_o our_o adversary_n mention_v in_o the_o objection_n to_o prove_v that_o malchisedeck_v bring_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o abraham_n that_o he_o may_v partake_v of_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o he_o have_v offer_v be_v not_o considerable_a viz._n because_o abraham_n return_v from_o the_o battle_n with_o great_a spoil_n and_o so_o there_o be_v meat_n and_o drink_n enough_o for_o he_o and_o his_o people_n and_o that_o they_o have_v take_v their_o repast_n before_o melchisedeck_v meet_v they_o etc._n etc._n these_o reason_n i_o say_v be_v inconsiderable_a because_o although_o abraham_n have_v great_a spoil_n yet_o he_o restore_v all_o to_o the_o king_n of_o sodom_n and_o though_o his_o people_n have_v eat_v and_o drink_v of_o such_o as_o they_o find_v among_o the_o spoil_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o abraham_n do_v eat_v and_o drink_v and_o though_o both_o he_o and_o his_o people_n have_v eat_v and_o drink_v yet_o it_o be_v not_o say_v how_o long_o it_o be_v since_o and_o that_o they_o have_v no_o need_n of_o more_o provision_n and_o though_o they_o have_v no_o need_n of_o more_o yet_o melchisedek_n not_o know_v that_o they_o have_v eat_v and_o drink_v do_v that_o which_o prudent_a man_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v viz._n provide_v all_o that_o may_v be_v needful_a in_o case_n of_o necessity_n ans._n although_o these_o reason_n mounsieur_fw-fr in_o themselves_o be_v not_o to_o i_o i_o confess_v demonstrative_a and_o evident_o convince_a because_o it_o be_v very_o hard_a to_o demonstrate_v thing_n so_o long_o pass_v with_o all_o their_o circumstance_n yet_o they_o be_v in_o themselves_o as_o considerable_a as_o the_o reason_n you_o give_v to_o destroy_v they_o which_o be_v not_o also_o demonstrative_a or_o convince_a unless_o your_o bare_a word_n must_v be_v take_v for_o a_o demonstration_n or_o oracle_n and_o that_o we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o do_v consider_v your_o so_o manifold_a former_a lie_n blasphemy_n and_o absurdity_n yet_o if_o these_o reason_n be_v back_v and_o second_v by_o the_o unanimous_a testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n as_o i_o shall_v hereafter_o show_v they_o be_v than_o i_o dare_v say_v your_o answer_n be_v of_o no_o more_o consideration_n or_o weight_n to_o counterpoise_v they_o than_o a_o feather_n be_v to_o a_o wain_n load_v of_o lead_n therefore_o i_o pray_v good_a sir_n until_o you_o produce_v better_a proof_n