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A09101	A discouerie of I. Nicols minister, misreported a Iesuite, latelye recanted in the Tower of London Wherin besides the declaration of the man, is contayned a ful answere to his recantation, with a confutation of his slaunders, and proofe of the contraries, in the Pope, cardinals, clergie, students, and priuate men of Rome. There is also added a reproofe of an oratiuon and sermon, falsely presented by the sayd Nicols to be made in Rome, and presented to the Pope in his consistorye. Wherto is annexed a late information from Rome touchng [sic] the aute[n]tical copie of Nicols recantation.	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.	1581 (1581)	STC 19402; ESTC S120349	83,096	196

by Stephanus Bishop of Rome as S. Ierome witnesseth And Stephanus vsed his authoritie Iero dial cont Lncif For he condemned most worthily this Councel as S. Austen affirmeth The same also appeareth by that Aug. li. 3.6 7. de Bapti that Felicissimus the Nouatiā with his companions went to Rome to complayne to Cornelius the Bishoppe against Cyprian to haue him deposed Cy. li. 1. ep 3 ad Cornel. And that the Bishop of Rome as generall pastour of all mighte vppon causes depose any Bishoppe of an other countrie it appeareth by Cyprian him selfe whoe desireth Stephanus Bishopp of Rome to depose by his letters one Martianus a Nouatian Cyp li. 3. ep 13. ad Steph Bishopp of Orl●ans in Fraunce and to substitute an o●her in his roome And for the libertie here mentioned by Ciprian for Bishops to say and thincke what they list in matters of controuersie Aug. li. 3 de Bap. ca. 3. S. Austen expoundeth it not to be vnderstoode generally in al matters but in controuersies not yet discussed By this also is answered that which followeth in Nicols out of Ciprā without citing the place That Cypriā should complaine of some lewde mens runninge to Rome against him which is true For he complaineth to Cornelius the Pope of Felicissimus Fortunatus Nouatiās that without iust cause came to complaine of him to the saied Cornelius Cy. li. 1. ep 3 ad Corneli he cōmēdeth Cornelius for not acceptinge their accusatiōs nor yet the letters which they brought against him By which act as also in al the epistle he cōfirmeth most plainly the Primacie of Rome Wherfore al the which follweth in Nicols is most impudently inserted of him selfe to wit That Cypriā complained of prophane men schismaticks which withdrew thē selues to the Bishoppe of Rome wickedly perswading them selues that the Bishops of Africa had lesse power thē the Bishop of Rome But S. Cipriā hath no such thing The laste that he citeth about this matter out of S. Chrisostome Chri. ho. 83. in Math. ●a 23. Whoe soeuer shal couet primacy ouer bishops in earth shal find cōfusiō in heauē he that shal cōtēd to be head of al shal not be reckoned in the number of Christ his seruants Although it maye be trewlye spoken of him which shal couetouslye and ambitiously contend to be Primate hauing no right to it yet I finde noe such thinge in the place alleaged nor in any other place that this quotation might lead me vnto for the 83. homelie is not vppon the 23. chapter of Mathewe but vppon the 26. where noe such thinge is● but all against them of the Sacrifice of the Euchariste Secondly vpon the 23. chapter there are the 73.74 and 75. homelies wherein also noe such thing is found Finally that Chrisostome acknoweledged the supremacie of the Bishop of Rome Chris. ep 1. ad Innocē it may appeare playnly by his epistle to Innocentius the Pope by whom he desireth to be restored againe to his Patriarchship being vniustly deposed and that his deposers might be punnished by him And that the saied Innocētius practized this authoritie appeareth by that he excommunicated from Rome Niceph. li. 13. ca. 34. both Arcadius the Emperour and Eudoxia his wife for their vniust dealinge agaynste Chrisostome in Constantinople Towching Images he erreth altogether in heapinge vppe matter against Idolls which we more deteste then they but yet h● bringeth a longe place out of Arnobius against the Gentiles where among●st other things he saieth to them Arno. li. 8. cont Gent. We nether worship nor wish for crosses you that consecrate woodden godds doe adore in deede wooden crosses as partes of your goddes In which words to let passe Nicolls corrupt translation almost in euerie lyne Arnobius onely telleth the Gentiles that Christiās nether worshipped nor wished for crosses in that sense as they obiected to witt to make them Goddes for soe the Gentiles being reproued by Christians of their idolatrie replied that the Christians were Staurolatrae Marke this resō for images that is idolatours to crosses as much as the Gentiles weare to other thinges which Arnobius denieth And yet hereby it appeareth that Christians vsed some honour and reuerence to crosses in thos daies or els the Gētiles would neuer haue obi●ct●d idolatrie of crosses vnto them as both Arnobius in diuers places Tertulliā tes●ifie that they did Tertu in apolo ca. 26. After this he obiecteth two places of Epiphanius against Images The firste is without quotation but yet it is found in the second Councell of Nice Sy. 7. Act. 6 obiected by heretiques then as it is nowe and ther it is answered by another Epiphanius in the name of the Councell and proued by many argumentes to be none of Epiphanius his wordes but foysted in by the wicked Iconomachians The other place also Epip ep ad Ioā Hieros which is againste the hanginge vppe of mens pictures in the Church is added by heretiques to a certayne epistle of Epiphanius and is parhaps that second place which the Councel affermed to be inserted Act. 6. for it speaketh of two but whether it be that or noe it is euident that it is added by heretiques as the other before was both for that the epistle of Epiphanius was perfectlye ended before these wordes ensewe Hier. ep ad Pāmac cōt Ioā Hiero. And S. Ierome to Pammachius reciteth almoste all this epistle of Epiphanius translated by him and yet maketh noe mention of these wordes And it is reported in the seuenthe generall Councel how that the schollers of Epiphanius after his death builded a church in his honour Synod 7. and putt his image in the same which they woulde neuer haue done if he had taught them that it were ido●atrie to haue anye mans image in a Churche And this shall suffice for this third part For al the rest which Nicols bringethe ether is against him selfe or impertinent to the purpose or so plaine as ech man may easely answere the same Touching his oration and sermon presented in the Popes consistorie Hauinge ended my former answere to Iohn Nicols recātation there came vnto my handes a newe booke of the same authour for nowe he hath gotten the name of an authour and promiseth fertilitie in printinge bookes hereafter The title wherof was The tytle of Nicols second booke The oration and sermon made at Rome by commaundemente of the fower Cardinalls and the Dominican Inquisitour vppon paine of death by Iohn Nicols latelye the Popes scholler Which after I had read and a litle considered I could easely haue broken into some extremitie of laughter had not cōpassiō staied the same cōceued partly towardes the man him selfe whose end I did see must needs be subiect to shāe and confusion by publishing such vntruthes as were not long iustifiable but especially towardes those whom so miserable a felow by reason of their parciall affection had deluded in so

●nowledge The thyrde is Seminarium Grecum Grecum wherein the children of the Gréekes are brought vppe gathered from dyuers partes of the worlde and are instructed by learned men of their owne language together with the latine tongue for the confutinge of their countries errours and for the conuertinge of such iufidells as liue there amongest them The fourthe is Seminarium Anglicanum Anglicanū for Englishe men onelye The fifte is Seminarium Hungaricum Hungaricū for Hungarians and Slauons The sixte is Seminarium Belgicum Belgicum newlye begoone for Fleminges The last is Seminarium Romanum Romanū for the Italians wherein their is greate stoare of most goodlye youth albeit the most parte of this Seminarye liue not of the Popes charges and this is all with in Rome it selfe But nowe if we looke into other countryes this Pope hath manye more monumentes of his munificence Seminarie● out of Rom●● especiallye Seminaries mayntayned at his charges as the Englishe men in Rhemes Rhemes the Scottishe men in Paris Paris the Frenche men in Auinion Auinion the Zuisars in Lucerna Lucerna the Bohemians in Prage Prage the Duche men and Polonians in Uienna Vienna and in dyuers other places hath he the lyke espesially in Germanie which nowe I doe not remember But it shal be sufficient to haue named these for here hence we may gather a coniecture of the reste Now then this being soe let the vnpartial Reader iudge how likely a matter it is that this Pope disboursing his owne so abundantly abrode will pelfe vniustly from other men at home as his scoller Iohn Nicolls for good will accuseth him Noe noe this slaunder hath no iote of lykelihood as I noted before but was vttered for customes sake for pleasing of their humours whoe féede of reproch against the sea of Rome and against the man sitting there whatsoeuer God geue them his grace for the ●uringe of their Phrensie I woulde here ende to speake of the Pope but that I am enforced to adde a worde or two towching an impertinent quarrell which Iohn Nicols picketh to him for his Pontificalitie that is for the reuerence which Christians in respect of his rowme and dignitie exhibite vnto him which beinge in deade a very reasonable thing and such as may be geuen without flattery and receaued with out pride yet the malice and enuie of heretiques can not beare it but in greate ●eate of speach they inueigh agynst it Iohn Nicols here towcheth two pointes the one that men knéele downe● as he passeth by the other that he is borne vpon mens shoulders of both which I will speake And for the first I answere Kneling doū● for the Popes blessinge that séeinge we knéele downe to temporal princes and gouernours in respecte onely of the high gouernour whom they represent not expecting any thing from them excepte temporall commodities much more of righte may we knéele downe to a spiritual magistrate whoe gouerneth by a higher title thē the temporal doeth for that he is the instrument and ang●ll of God by whom al heauenly giftes and benedictiōs are deriued vnto vs. He succéedeth in the place of Adam Enoch Noe Abrahā Melchisedech Isaac Iacob of moyses and Aaron of all the holy Prophetes of Christ and his Apostles to delyuer Gods blessings vnto vs if we humbly séeke the same For which cause it hath alwaies bene the fashion of Christians to aske with humilitie the benediction of priestes and if of all priestes then much more of the highest Priest of all And this is the cause whye men doe knéele downe vnto the Pope not to addore him as malice slaundereth but to reuerēce him in honour of Christ whose person he beareth and to receaue by him Christ his benediction whose rowme he possesseth This I saye is the cause whye men knéele downe vnto him which thinge whosoeuer reprehendeth must néeds doe it more of enuie then of reason séeing he cannot but graunte that some honour is to be geuē vnto him which blesseth another for that S. Paul sayeth Heb. 7. That the better alwaies blesseth the lesser And of reason we must néedes thinke that the blessinges mentioned in the scripture as receaued at mens handes for example of Melchisedech by Abraham Gen. 14. of Isaac by Iacob Gen. 32. of Israell by the ●wo sonnes of Iosephe Gen. 32. of Iosue by the two tribes and a halfe Gen. 49. and of Salomon by the whole congregation of Israell 3. Reg. 8. were receaued with some externall reuerence 2. Paral. 6. especiallye that of Aaron which is more lyke vnto ours for that he was hygh Priest and also for that he is reported in scripture to haue Blessed the people afte● sacrifice Leuit. 9. by extending out his hand w●ich ceremonie whiles he did and being high Priest it is like the people shewed some externall reuerence by bowinge them selues or the lyke séeing good men were wonte in that time to cast them selues vpon the grounde to honour other vpon lesse occasions As Iacob to Esau Iosue 7. 1. Reg. 20. 25. Iosue before the Arcke Dauid to Ionathas Abigail to Dauid and the lyke Now towching the second which is that at certaine high festiuall dayes Bearing of the Pope on men● shoulders● he is borne from his palace into S. Peters Church for at no other time or place is that thing vsed it is a matter so reasonable the circumstances considered as can be offensiue to noe indifferente wise man and much lesse geue occasiō of such inuectiues and e●clamations as are vsed against it or rather agaynst all religion for this one thing The matter standeth thus At certaine principall feastes of the Church the Pope vsethe to leaue his priuate chappell and to come d●wne to seruice in Saint Peters Church● At which time such greate multitudes of people expecte him théere to receaue his benediction and verye manye also to sée him whiche neuer sawe him before beinge strangers come from farr countries to visite thos holy places as it is impossible for him to passe in and out thoroughe the preasse and to be seene to geue his benadiction to all excepte he should ether ride or be borne in his chayre And to ride it were very vnséemly and inconuenient hauing to passe thorough all S. Peters great church where the moste preasse is and also for the passages of stones and steres Wherfore they haue vsed alwayes to lyfte him vpp in his chayre and soe to conuaye him thorough the multitude and this is all the matter which is soe much exclaymed at Which notwithstanding being done vppon such considerations and necessities as I haue saide for at all other times he goeth on foote or rideth it rather noteth malice in them that maligne it then conuincethe pride in him that admitteth it or anye faulte at all in the wel meaning Christians who vppon soe iust causes doe both● desire and

is in earneste studie often prayer great labor much preaching maruelous abstinence and feruent desire of the aduancement of vertue and true religion Card. Paleotto is Bishoppe of Bononie Paleotto● endewed with no lesse zeale in God his cause whose wise and watchfull gonerment may appeare by the decréees of his Prouincial Sinods extant in print and his singuler vertues may in part be conceaued by that which I will saye of Card. Borrhomeo whom in gouernment and lyfe he séeketh to imitate Onelye I add this of Paleotto that he preacheth incessantly and distributeth euery moneth to the poore that which amounteth of his Bishoppricke aboue his owne necessary expēces He is singuler wel learned him selfe and a great Patrone of all learned men Card. Borrhomeo is Bishope of Millaine Borrhomeo the mirror of Prelats of our time and séemeth to haue receaued the same spirite in gouernment which his predecessor S. Ambrose had For he is a paterne of perfect prelacie to the worlde and his doinges are such as in déede are scarse credible in these our dayes but onely to them that haue séene them with their eyes his labour séemeth intollerable both in visiting his prouinces for the most parte a foote and also for his continual preaching cōmonly eu●ry day and some time twise or thrise in one day vpon occasion of néede he stayeth in the Church 40. houres together as he did of late bestowing the one halfe houre in prechinge and the other in prayer of al that time and the poeple cōming and goeing from farre partes to his Church of S. Ambrose in Millaine to that his 40. h●ures exercise This exercyse is called in Italy la Quarantena His diet is most slender eating onely once a day and that in the refectorie with his seruantes without difference of meates His exercise is after dinner to heare his Chapplens discourse vpon some spirituall matter redd at dinner time for all the● dinner noe word is spokē but one readeth the scripture for halfe an houre which is all the time that his dinner dureth his sléepe is not aboue 4. or 5. houres in the night he hath a Colledge or Seminarie of priests in Millaine erected foūded at his owne charges to whom for the most part he maketh euery day an exortation spendeth one other houre with them in spirituall conferences At the time of the laste greate plague in Millaine about 4. yeares past al men fléeing for the terror of death he by no means would be perswaded to depart but perseuered there al the plague time A meruailous example of a louing Pastor going to the infected himself ministring the Sacramēts vnto them when they lacked necessarie maintenāce he sould away all his houshold furniture as appereth yet by his naked chamber walles distributed al vnto them Besids this euery fryday during the plague he went bare footed to the Church before the people bering the Crosse himselfe reciting the Litanies● with streames of teares so longe vntill God turned his hand from that Citie euery night before he goeth to bed calling al his people together they haue praiers spiritual meditations in his chappel to which also strangers of the Towne some time resort amōgst whō ther came once a wicked catif discharged a pistol vpon the Cardinalls backe A wonderfull miracle as he was knéelinge in praier but God deliuered miraculo●ly his seruant for the pellets passing onely thrugh two thin cassoks his shirt staid at the skin persed it not as it was there found shewed in the presence of many which are yet alyue to testif●ie the same Much more might be spoken of this rar● man but this maye suffice to shewe that Cardinals are not so wicked mē as Ihon Nicols dothe affirme And generally I may add that as manie Cardinales as are Bishopes in these dayes as none of of these in Rome are for the Pope suffereth no Bishop to lye from his bishopricke but to be resident according to the Councel of Trent Sesio 23. cap. 1. they are all of very good and exemplare life as might be shewed in particulers and by the most vertuous liues and deathes of two late Cardinales arche Bishopes of Naples and Augus●a was declared Of Priestes and religious men Iohn Nicols accuseth the cleargie of Rome and Italie in two thinges the one of ignorāce the other of dishonestie For the first he saythe Their Priestes in Italie are for the most parte vnlearned I demanded of some of these Italian priestes in the Italian tongue wether God the Father and God the holye Ghoste had bodies they aunswered yea Well then seeinge their priestes be ignorant cet Héere you sée Iohn Nicols borne in Cowbridge vaunting ouer the Italian and condemninge him of doulfeshnes which is some what more ridiculus then the Ape scoffing at the fox for wante of a tayle That the Italian priestes are cōmonly well learned Italian Priestes learned I could affirme of mine owne experience and proue it also by the infinite bookes which are daily set forth by them in all sciences but especially in their owne language which they estéeme as muche as the latine and haue ●urnished the same with all varietie of authores which euer wrote commendably in anie tongue But why Italian priestes shonld not be so ignorant and vnlearned as Ihon Nicols reporteth I could yeald many more resons wherof the first and principal is their great wit and capacitie ioyned with a great desire of knowledge and therin to excell all others Which things being cōpared with other helpes wherof I will now speake must néedes bring forth greater effecte of learninge and learned men in Italie then in other places where the lyke helpes are not And touching the helpes to learning Helpes to learning in Italie which Italians besides their excellent witt haue aboue other men they are manye For first in stead of our two vniuersities Vniuersities Cambridg and Oxforde they haue their Pauia their Padua their Ferrara their Bononie their Siena their Perugio their Rome their Salerno their Naples and some other vniuersities besides their great scholes not much inferior to Uniuersities Schooles as Turin Millan Mantua Brescia Cremona Uenice Florence Genua Macerata Aquila Cosenza and other places wher commonly the Iesuites doe reade Also besides their prouinciall Seminaries Seminaries which according to the Coūcel ●f Trent Ses. 25. ca. 18 euerie Bishop that is able hath in some towne within his dioces which in Italie amounteth to be some hundrethes To this now if we add their facilitie in obtaini●ge the latine tongue by the vicinitie which it hath with their owne also the varietie of all sciences written or by translation in the Italian tongue also the greate store of learned men and teachers amongest them and the continuall conference whiche they haue with learned straungers who dayly come vnto them lastly the greate and often excercises which Italian priestes haue

be the things neuer so honest or lawful of them selues this man draweth all to a corrupt meaning as you see Of the permision o● the stewes But héere before I passe any furder I must say a word or two touching the stewes in Rome the permission wherof by the Pope by other Catholike Princes in their coūtries is accounted so heinous a matter by our aduersaries as it may not be answered but that we therby alow of vnchast life Which is a most false wrongfull charge as may apéere by that which foloweth First the Pope with al Catholiques that euer wrot condemneth detesteth the acte of simple fornication as a deadly sine dānable to the doers without repētance And our aduersaries shall neuer be able to charge truly our Catholique doctrine wth the cōtrarie Secondly notwithstāding this detestation the ciuil magistrat may for the auoiding of a worse incōueni●nce tollerat or permit this sinn in some degrée without fault Tolleratinge of stewes noe alowinge of them without any alowing of the sinne it selfe As God doth tollerat with wicked men and with many wicked actes in the world which he detesteth might notwithstāding let thē if he would yet he dothe not alowe of thē for that he permitteth them Thirdly that a naughty wicked thing may somtimes be necessary consequently tollerated without fault the corruption and lewd inclinatiō of men supposed It apereth plainly by S. Paul who saith 1. Cor. 11. Math. 18. that heresies of necessitie must be by Christ who affirmeth that scandals must néedes come yet nether Christ alowed of scandals nor S. Paul of heresies Fowerthly I might aske why the protestants in England doe permit vsery by their lawes that is doth not punish men for taking vnder ten of the hundreth They must néedes aunswere that they allowe not of the sinne but that they doe it for the auoiding of a greater inconuenience which is leste by punishing all vsurie as the Catholique Church dothe no man would lende any monye at all The causes why the stewes is permitted Soe then the Pope and other Christian Princes for the auoidinge of a greater inconuenience séeing the corruption of some men wil alwayes be such as beinge restrained of this would breake to worse matters and hauing learned by longe experience as S. Austen affirmed also of his time that if this publique sink should be taken away the infection wold rushe into priuate howses as in parte I thinke may be noted in our own coūtrie if we compare the chastitie of our fathers dayes when such a place was permitted with the times which haue followed since the taking away therof considering also that the tolleratinge with this publique sinke is no wayes any allowance of the sinne for these causes I say Christian Maiestrates haue alwaies permitted this publique scandal protesting to their subiectes by the words of S. Ierome which he vseth in a like matter vppon Christes wordes Li. 3. comment in math 18. It is of necessitie that scandals should come but yet woe to that man which by his faulte maketh that to be which otherwise in the world must needes be That is to say of necessitie there must for causes a stewes be permited but yet woe vnto him whiche haunteh the stewes or vseth this permission Soe that the thing is permitted of necessitie in general but no mans going thither alowed in particuler Wherof it commeth that there is no prince in the world which doth or can vse more meanes then the Pope dothe Meanes vsed by the Pope for withdrawing lewde women from their naughty lyfe to draw al men from that vice to reforme thos miserable women thēselues which liue in that kind of life in his dominions For first they are shut vp in one stréete with a note of infamie not only to them selues but to all those who repaire vnto them Sec●ndly they are debarred of all spiritual cōsolation for they remaine vnable to receaue any sacramēt as long as they abide in that trade of life Thirdly they are depriued of al credit or countenāce in the world abrode so that if any of thē shold be found in a Coche both horses Coche are ipso facto forfeited Fowerthly they make no testamēt except they haue lawful childrē but al their goodes must goe to the conuertites Conuertites that is to thos which are conuerted from that kinde of abhominable life Fiftly the Pope causeth euery wéeke some religious men to repaire to that place ther in the middest of the stréete to prech hell dānation vnto them for their wickednes And lastly he hath prouided a goodly monastery for all thē which wil leaue that state to enter into ther to be maintained whiles they liue with a very competent sufficient prouision of an honest vertuous life By which meanes diuers are recalled daily from their wickednes Which thinges being so let the indifferēt reader iudge how vniustly the Pope is charged with alowing of ther lewd behauiour as God whoe is not partial will one daye declare Thus hauing answerd Ihō Nicols vntrue slanderous reportes of the citie of Rome it shal not be amisse according to my promise to bestow sōe few words in declaring the pietie of this cittie which euery man that hath séene it is not blinded with partialitie wil easily confesse to be greater then in any place of the world besides And first in talking of the chéefe head head the Pope himselfe of the Cardnals I haue shewed how for matters of learning it doth excel hauing in it The multitud of studentes Seminaries colledges of al nations tongues also two distinct Uniuersities as I may terme thē for besides the scholes of Sapientia wher 30. sundery learned men doe reade the Iesuites schooles haue aboue 1200. shollers which frequent thē besides the studentes of lawe in the colledge of Capronica Capronica besids the great howses of religion wher also are learned readers haue often publike excercises of disputation one with another to the great commoditye of all studentes in that place After this in my spéech of the priestes clergie of Rome Congregations in Rome I shewed what cōgregatiōs conferēces they haue in spiritual matters to the great instruction edification of all straūgers that repaire thither In which kinde of pietie I touched but the leste part for besides thos congregations that I named ther ar diuers others wher as the nūber of Societies or Cōpagnies of seculer men in Rome 80. Societies in Rome amoūt to aboue 80. theris neuer ● Cōpagnie which maintaineth not a church or a chappel with some nomber of priestes with whom sundery times of the wek● they haue cōference in spirituall matters Now then to passe ouer to the déedes of pietie which are corporal and which appertaine more in particuler to the Citizens them selues I must say generally that

knewe not the contentes of your sermon Or if they had vnderstood it how could they haue thanked you for so many foule slaunderous reproches vttered against them and Gods cause in this your new diuised sermon Dothe the Pope geue men leaue to reuile him Gods church and afterward rewardeth them with thankes It is to euidente how much you abuse your new friendes Ihon and yet it wil be much m●re euidēt er many wéekes passe when autentical testimonies shal be published of this matter Letters are gone to Rome as you prophesied and wil retourne such newes thence shortly as will make your beste friendes ashamed of your doinges I can not but maruaile at certaine of my countrie men whoe otherwise being of a very greate capacitie for partial affection in religion can be contente to be abused by suche absurde scroles as Iohn Nicols casteth abroad Wherin besides the lacke of truthe ground and learning there wanteth also common iudgment and discret●●on Marke I pray you what decent kind of spéeche he vseth in a booke which was for the Quéenes Maiestie to read Speakinge of the studentes of the English● Colledge moste excellente younge men and suche as contende in learning with the Spanishe and Italian and geue admiration to other countries wherof Nicols was absolutly the worste and reiected thence as vnable for that companie Nicols speec● absurde to a Qu●ene after his bragge that all learned the latine tongue of him he saith They haue such blockheades that studdye philosophie there as M. Dodipole Oliuerius M. Doater Docter I woulde saye Mushe with twentye more c. And again They cannot preache ether for that they quaffe to muche wine or supp to much potage c. And againe making odious comparyson betwixt these studentes of Rome and the hand-craftye ministers of Englande whome hée disgracethe with the reproche of stitching and cobling preachers he saith What Preachers in Englande by Nicols reporte There was not one amōgest threescore that could preach as well as our common taylers shomakers in England And againe talking of his owne state h●e saithe very grauely I meane to abide in England hap wel or hap yl England hath no felowe better it is to liue in pouertie then to be whipped on the seas as I shold if I went ouer againe and be taughte to rowe Nicols graue and wit●ye speeche hauing thervnto as good towardnes as Tom Colliar thy fathers man And againe talking of his booke he concludeth wittily in these wordes This booke is ended Momus hould thy peace for ther was neuer Momus that euer thriued vnlesse he became a mome for his laboure But perhapes you will saye this was in English his vein may chance to be better in latine In deed he affirmethe him selfe to haue been the only oratour of the Roman Colledg but me thinketh his latine epistle to the Quéen refuseth to bear him witnes excepte it be for that I vnderstand it not as in déed I doe scarsly in diuers places of the same as for example this houge heape of flatering wordes in the title Nicols veine in latyne Augustssimae serenissimaeque Principi cunctis honoris dissemina●i dispersique sermonis celsissimae sedis dignitatis sūmae amplitudinis atque amplissimorum graduum maiestatis ●itulis dignissimae c. Marye as his beginning is very harde and loftye so is the ending somwhat easie and familiar for hauing prated for the Queene thus he endith Papista tacet Christianus dicit Amen Sic concluditur Epistola det Deus bonū euentum Which in English is thus The Papist houldeth his peace the Christian sayeth amen soe the epistle endeth God send vs good lucke And what lucke Ihō meaneth by this he signifieth before in the same epistle where he exhorteth the Queenes Maiestie Nicols lab●●rethe for wages ad pauperum Scolasticorum inopiam subleuandam incredibili animi studio contendere et incumbere to contend and applye her selfe by all meenes to ease pore scholers needes And this is that perhappes which hath caused many good prelates as is reported to make publike collections for him in diuers shéeres abroade which if they continew and doe pay him wel his stip●̄d we shal want no bookes against Rome nor new inuentiō of lyes from time to time Nicols promised booke of pilgramage how true it i● like to be For so he promiseth that we shall looke shortlye for a booke of pilgrimage wherin we are al to be vndonne and for a taste of the truthe of that booke he hath put down 3. or 4. manifest lyes which he promiseth to repeate againe in that booke For firste he calleth this Pope a murderer and proueth it onely by the warres in the lower countries whereof he sayeth that this Pope is the onely cause As whoe would say the King of Spayne had not warre● there before this man was Pope Also he calleth him an adulterer sayinge the Cardinal of Sansisto in Rome to be his bastard whom al men know to be borne of his owne sister Besids this he calleth him a théefe for causinge some Abbotes and Priors in Italie to disburse some monie towardes the maintenance of the English Seminaries in Rome Rhemes as though this had bene théeuerie if he had done it as he did not or as thoughe the Englishe Seminaries did presse the Pope more then soe manye other as I haue named before maintained by him with greater charge But are not our aduersaries ashamed of these dealings do they not sée the taile of these stratagemes to reflect the discredite vpon their owne heads what a miserable cause is theirs which can not stād but by such deuices It is a world to sée what pillers of defence they haue what graue writers in their cause what bookes they suffer to come out against vs dayly Of late in the middest of our persecutiōs there came foorth a weightie worke of 40 shéets of paper made by one Thomas Luptō Luptons perswation fro● Papistrie intituled A perswasiō from Papistry he would haue saied a disswasion but that Papistrie perswasion began both with a letter Of this authors estate and callinge I can not yet learne but that he séemethe to haue bene some Musitian in time for that muche of his matter passeth from him in rime In his epistle to y● Queene To the great comfort and ioy as he hopeth of her highnes being framed by him not trowblingly but louingly vnto her subiectes This mans drift is as he sayeth to proue all Papistes to be englishe enemies and extreme enemies to England which in effect he proueth thus Papists doe loue the Popes law Luptons arguments against Papists the Pope he loueth not God almighties law the Quéenes Maiesty she loueth God almighties law her law is al one with his how thē can the Papists loue their Quéene country Againe the Papists cry vpō their Quéene Mary and we cry vpō our Q. Elizabeth And is not Queene Elizabeth I praye

o●fer it Of the Cardinals Next after the Pope let vs sée what Iohn Nicols bringeth against the Cardinales Wherein I muste be shorter then in the other before both for that I haue not so● muche spare time as Ihon Nicols in the Tower maye haue as also to obey the wise mans counsaile Prou. 26. Answer not a foole according to his folye leste thou also becume like vnto hin Which sentence that I bring not against Ihon Nicols without iust cause shall appeare by his maner of accusing the Cardinals which is very fowle as foloweth First sayth he I will beginne with your Cardinales the pillars of your churche Haue not they bewtifull boyes with whome they committ the sinne of Sodome as I haue harde by the Romans How this sinn is punished in Rome ●ee after in the answer to Rome and by a gentelman whoe serued to Cardinal Sfoisie who trauailed by land with me from the cittie of Ancona to Venice haue not these younge Cardinales pretye wenches in their palaces An improb●ble slaunder whome in the daye time they cal ether their sisters or cosins and in the night time make them ether their bedfelowes or concubins And doe you not knowe how that there was a younge Cardinale a Prince An impuden●●lye burnte at Rome not longe since by a common queane of the s●ewes and tooke from her the frenche disease wherwith he dyed miserablye This is Iohn Nicols vncleane accusation of the Cardinals grounded only as you sée vppon a bare interrogation which alwayes may be answered iu●siciently with a No. But for that I wil not imitate his slanderous maner of dealing I meane to add proofe and reason to my Noe. Yet first I am enforced to complaine of some other men whose wisdom or grauitey should haue stayed the publishinge of suche scurrilitie as héere is put downe against soe many honarable parsons and some Princes also without anie proofe or reason at all I doe apeale héerin to the consciences of al modest and ciuil gentelmen be they of what opinion in religion soeuer The publishing of Nicols scurrilitie against lawe both of nature and Nations Whether it be not against al lawe both of nature and nations and against the dignitie of our kinde being men to suffer soe shameles filthe both lothsum and intollerable to any chaste eares without all proofe to be caste out against soe noble parsonages which neuer offended vs and to be published in printe to the vewe of the worlde If some wicked mann should aduenture the like against vs● in other countries and should set downe such particulariteis of dishonestie ether heard or deuised against our Nobilitie and Maiestrates and shoulde offer to printe it would not very natural shamfastnes cause men to suppresse it were they neuer soe contrarie in religion yes surely For there is humane respecte to be vsed euen towardes our enemies Although therfore the base spirite of Nicols shamed not to set abroche suche dregges of dishonestie to the reproche of soe manie woorthy men yet me thinketh respecte of common ciuilitie should haue moued those by whose allowance the matter passed to haue stayed or qualified soe reprochfull infamies powred out without certainty or ground of truth For what doth he bring for proofe of his reproches but only an vncertaine hear-say the reporte of a wandring seruing man if it be true as I think it false that any such conferred with him And is this sufficient to publish the auouchmēt of y● infamous horible crime against al Cardinales without exception The whole matter is quikly answered For the first poynte is a méere supposall suggested by enuie and vttered by malice For the Cardinales kéepe noe suche b●wtiful boyes nether is ther anie light suspition of such wickednes in anye of them and if thers were they could not esape the seueritis of iustice excersised in that place vppon this detestable sinne The second poynt is an improbable slaunder for that Cardinales keepe no women at all in their howses noe not their owne sisters Nether shall a man see any woman repayre to any Cardinals howse excepte vppon special knowen busines in the companie of men with whom they departe presently againe and yet this thing is soe rare a matter also as in mani● yeares you shal not sée some fewe to vse it The third poynt of the young Prince Cardinale is an impudent and apparentlye reprouable in the face of al the worlde For there was no young Prince Cardinal in Rome these manie yeares but onlye about three yeares past Card. A●striacus the Cardinal of Austria cossen german to the Emporour whoe albeit he were younge yet according to his vertuouse education he liued in Rome most innocently as also he dothe nowe in the courte of Spaine without al spote of such infamie as Ihon Nicols would enforce vppon him But ●et Nicols name the man that dyed in Rome and proue but this one reproche ●o be true and I wil yéelde in al the rest ●ut if he cannot then let him be sory that ●e hath reported it or his fauorers that they haue published it or at least the simple reader that he euer beléeued it being soe ●niust a slaunder And albeit this might stand for a suff●cient aunswere to soe vnsufficient an accusation yet for the more satisfaction of the reader and to shewe how farre of the liues of Cardinals are from occasiōs of thes obiected abhominations being al together occupied in vertuous affaires I wil touch bréefely the order of life and cōmon excersises of the most of the Cardinals The excersises of Cardinals in Rome● with their particuler inclinatiōs which for the most part is in one of thes fower kinde of vertuous excersises following that t s to saye in gouerning the Church in aduauncing learning in excersise of charitable deedes and in rare example of Pastorall lyfe In eche wherof albeit I name but few which are principal and alwayes present at Rome yet muste you vnderstande that these men haue their adherentes and followers bothe in Rome and abroad in other coūtries also Wisdome in gouernment And for the first which is gouerment I wil name only thrée that is Cardinal Como Sauello and Morono whose singuler giftes in that matter doe excell Cardinal Como Como is Secretarie to the Pope and directeth all actions of state which passe from him Cardi. Sauello Sauello is Uicar generall in spiritual matters and gouerneth the Cleargie with great zeale and sinceritie Card● Morono Morono is deane of the Consistorie and is commonly employed in Embassages abrode wherin he hath shewed him selfe a man of great valewe especially in his last iornie to Genua about 4. yeares past when by long laboure and peril to his owne parson he quieted set at vnion by the helpe of Benedictus Palmius of the Societie of Iesus the cittezens of Genua soe farr in discord amongest them selues the commonaltie against the gentelmen as it