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A19178 A reply to Dr. Mortons generall Defence of three nocent [sic] ceremonies viz. the surplice, crosse in baptisme, and kneeling at the receiving of the sacramentall elements of bread and wine. Ames, William, 1576-1633.; Calderwood, David, 1575-1650, attributed name. 1622 (1622) STC 559; ESTC S100126 108,813 126

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therefore_o as_o we_o that_o differ_v from_o they_o especial_o when_o we_o urge_v nothing_o of_o we_o upon_o they_o but_o they_o impose_v their_o own_o device_n upon_o we_o and_o so_o be_v cause_n of_o the_o difference_n 4._o the_o amazement_n which_o some_o have_v wonder_v what_o will_v be_v the_o event_n of_o difference_n be_v no_o damnable_a error_n which_o by_o the_o def._n be_v require_v to_o a_o scandal_n sect_n 1._o and_o if_o they_o grow_v remiss_a in_o religion_n upon_o it_o that_o be_v their_o sin_n i_o be_o sure_a zeal_n against_o superstition_n and_o for_o pure_a and_o undefiled_a worship_n have_v no_o fitness_n in_o it_o to_o work_n remissness_n in_o religion_n but_o urge_v of_o humane_a device_n in_o god_n worship_n tend_v direct_o thither_o sect_n xviii_o the_o second_o charge_n of_o scandal_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o separatist_n where_o 1._o i_o ask_v if_o gaius_n have_v make_v a_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n wherein_o diotrephes_n live_v whether_o the_o 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