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A04528 The Catholique iudge: or A moderator of the Catholique moderator Where in forme or manner of a plea or suite at law, the differences betweene those of the Reformed Church, and them of the Romish Church are decided; and without partialitie is shewed which is the true religion and catholique Church, for the instruction of either partie. Together with eight strong arguments or reasons, why the Popes cannot be competent iudges in these controversies. Written in the Dutch and French tongue, by Iohn of the Crosse, a Catholique gentleman. Translated out of French into English, by the right worshipfull and learned Knight Sir A.A. John of the Crosse, a Catholique gentleman.; A. A., Sir. 1623 (1623) STC 14651; ESTC S107831 50,836 96

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tipice dux normaque Minorum See lib. con Fo. 228. Col. 4.231 Col. 1. Sedes nobis perpetuò da regni caelorum that is to say Good Saint Francis head of Friers minors which of Iesus Christ art the true figure Cause vs to haue part of heauenly honours and life to obtaine that ever doth endure And the Iacobins are so bold as not onely to compare there Saint Dominicke with our Sauiour Iesus Christ See epist Flor. Aut. intust part 3. art 23. 24. but which is more in many thinges they placed him afore Iesus Christ The golden legends of the he-Saints and shee-Saints are all at this day printed which sufficiently set forth the fained miracles of one Stanislaus Adulbertus and of such other Saints And for so much as the Popes approue and allow such bookes yea and propound them to Christians to be held in equall honour and reuerence with the written word of God Aut. 23.27 fo 137. From thence also the Reformed Christians conclude that the Popes are prophane Tyranny the second cause of refusall The second reason for which the Reformed will not accept the Popes for their Iudges The second reason is that they haue vsurped dominion and soveraignty ouer the Church For first of all the Pope causeth himselfe to be stiled the Head the Spouse and Soveraigne Bishop of the Church Howbeit that title cannot properly appertaine to any person but Christ Iesus alone In the second place because that the Pope will beare rule and haue soueraignty over all the earth and all the Potentates of the earth Of the donation of Constantine For touching the donation of Constantine the Great by which they striue to confirme their dominion and rule besides that it hath beene heretofore sharpely questioned by Nicolaus Cusan Laurentius Valla Volaterranus Aeneas Silvius and diverse other very learned Authours the which notwithstanding haue not ceased to bee patrons and defenders of the Romane Sea The Reformed Christians maintaine that they can convince the sayd donation of falshood and vntruth by these reasons following Ten reasons by which it is proved that the donation of Constantine the Great is false and counterfeit First because none of the best and most approoved Authors either affirme or speake any thing of this donation of Constantine 2. Because that Eusebius and other ancient Historians testifie that the Emperor Constantine divided the three parts of the world to his three sonnes Socr. Theolo Evagr. Ruffin Okeb Beda Sozom. hist pan 2 Vol. lib. grn 3. 3. Because the Instruments and Decrees which touching the same were imprinted are very different and their stile no whit agreeing 4. That it is an absurd thing and likewise incredible that Saint Peter and Saint Paul should haue appeared to Constantine in his sleepe and that hee should haue adored them as gods 5. That hee was never infected with the Leprosie 6. That he was not baptized by Sylvester at Rome but by Eusebius in Nicomedia Alb. Krant in Sax lib. 2. ca. 1. Mansil indefens part cap. 11. 7. That it is a prophane kinde of speech to say that the hand of God was seene by Constantine 8. That he could not giue to the Pope a greater right then he had himselfe 9. That hee could not conferre or bestow vpon the Pope power or authority over the Patriarch of Constantinople the sayd title at that time being not built nor finished 10. And lastly Euseb de vita Constan Ruff. l. 1 c. 39. Viues l. 24. hist Beul de Con. Nue l. 8. c. 4. because such donations contained in the priviledges and grants made to the Popes which they haue received from the Emperour Constantine are the certaine markes of Antichrist Surely by all these reasons aforesayd it manifestly appeareth say the Reformed that such donation was never made to the popes by Constantine but that it hath beene forged and counterfeited by the Popes themselues And concerning the wordes of our Saviour Christ pronounced to Saint Peter and to all other Preachers Teachers of the word of God Aug in Io. tract 10 12. de ver dom Ser. 20. Cyril in Dial. de Trin. lib 4. Ambr. Epist ad Ephes cap. 2. saying Feed my sheepe this sentence and speech doth not import or signifie a politique and outward dominion or authority but onely the ministery of the Gospell For in another place our Lord Iesus Christ taxeth the ambition of the Apostles for that some would beare rule and haue dominion over other some and for that vpon this occasion they entred into consultation Chrys hom 55. in Math. Ber. Epist 230. Mat. 20.25 Dist 4. ca. multi quicunque cap. 1. Sedis dist 99. si quis 7. Der. de por The Kings of the Nations saith Iesus Christ beare rule over them but it should not bee so among you yea and the very Canons haue expresly forbidden that the Bishop of Rome should be called Soveraigne Bishop or vniversall head of the Church wherefore say the Reformed the Popes beat themselues with their owne rodde seeing they cannot rightfully attribute or appropriate to themselues such authority and domination and that for diverse causes and reasons Corruption of Religion the third cause of refusall The 3. reason which the Reformed Christians produce for which they will not submit themselves to the iudgement of the Popes is this that they haue not only intricated and confounded religion and divine service with many vaine ceremonies Can. 9. dist 34. Can 4. in dist 82. Can praeb lib. decretal Greg. tit 7. can 5. but haue also grossely erred in doctrine For some decrees affirme of the Popes that they are not men but gods that they cannot bee iudged by any person in the world that they may dispose and dispense against the Apostles that they can change the properties of things that they can make something of nothing that they haue power to make iustice of iniustice Io. 1.4 2 Tim. 3. Mat. 15. Gal. 1. Ier. 7. Iren. Epist 4. Con. Trad. 4. con li. cer per. sur 7. Now how exceeding false all this is say the Reformed it appeareth by that which almighty God testifieth himselfe that there can be but one forme of religion that is to say that which is contained in the writings of the Prophets and of the Apostles yea verily that an Angell from heauen hath no power to adde thereunto nor from it to diminish Whereas the Pope for all that will haue religion to consist in humane traditions such as are the Agnus Dei which they call 2. The complaint of Maximilian the baptisme of Bels the invocations of Saints the single life of Priests the withdrawing or depriving of the Cup in the Lords Supper De coen dom lib. 3. decret Greg. tit 41. Cal. cum dist 2. the vsing of a strange language and not vnderstood in the outward service of the Masse Buls and Indulgences and other like traditions all which as they say came
to them from the Apostles Although it is most cleere and evident by ancient Histories that they haue for most part been instituted long after by the Popes thēselues For Pope Innocent did forbid the giving of the Cup in the Lords Supper to Lay-people When and by what Popes the traditions of the Church of Rome haue been instituted following the decree of the Laterane Councell Also hee ordained that the consecrated bread should be received only vpon Easter-day which bread is more properly called the Eucharist or bread of thankesgiuing Eugenius the fourth Decreed the contrary in the Councell of Basill Innocent and Honorius instituted that the consecrated bread should be reserved and kept for diverse and sundry purposes in Churches with great veneration and reverence Contrariwise Pope Clement would not suffer the sayd bread to be kept and reserved till the next day Vitilian the second and Agatho or Agathus the first did decree that the Masse should be administred in Latine And Nicholas the first on the other side gaue leaue to the Sclavonians and Polonians to administer and sing the Masse in their owne language Alexander the second commanded not to heare the Masse which was sung by a Priest that had a Concubine on the contrary side Lucius the third permitted it Siricius Pelagius the second some other Popes haue condemned the mariage of Priests And opposite to that Pius the second hath left in writing this sentence That marriage was debarred vnto Priests for a pregnant and weighty cause But that it must be allowed vnto them againe for a reason more vrgent and peremptory Leo the first Gregory the second and third and diverse other Popes haue approoued of the worshipping of Images Contrariwise Iohn the 23. greatly detested Images in the Church Boniface the fourth gaue power and authoritie to Cordiliers to preach to Baptize and to giue absolution Contrarie wherevnto Gregorie depriued them of that power Iohn the 24. Con. 16. qua 8. adijcing held for a sound article of faith that the Apostlos neuer made vowe of pouertie and of continencie Pius the second said that begging Monkes were the slaues of the Diuells adding these verses Non audet stigius daemon tentare quod audet Effraevis Monachus plenaque fraudi anus that is to say The verie Diuell Dares not vndergoe What lawlesse Monke and craftie hugge wil doe Pelagius the first ordained that Clerkes should daily read houres which they cal of seuen houres long Gregorie the first commanded them to performe their seruice not by singing but by teaching and preaching publickely Calixtus saith that it is not lawfull to beleeue otherwise then the Church of Rome doth Pope Iulian contradicted it Boniface commanded to celebrate the Iubilie euerie hundereth yeere whereas Clement the sixt hath reduced shortened it to the fifti●h yeere Boniface the ninth to the three and thirtieth And Sixtus the fourh to the 25. and Hadrian and Leo the third gaue authoritie to the Emperour Charles to chose the Popes But Stephen the fourth and Hadrian the fourth and Sergius the second haue ascribed the sayd authoritie to the Ecclesiasticall persons to the Magistrate and to the people of Rome And Alexander the second did only permit it to the Cardinalls Finally the Whore Matilda chose to bee Popes Victor the third and Vrbane the second As also the Harlet Theodora elected Iohn the eleuenth Ficinensis lib. 1. cap. 3. Popes lay-men ignorant or vnlearned the Strumpet Marozia Sergius the third Antheras ordained that none should be chosen Pope who had not first beene Bishop Contrariwise to which decree Constantine the second and Benedict the eight were Lay persons Benedict the ninth and Iohn the second were altogether ignorant and vnlearned Can. omnibus vtriusque Gregorie the first did forbid to eate flesh milke Cheese Butter Egges on fasting dayes Eleutherius ordained contrarily that no meate should superstitiously bee refused Innocent the third brought in Auricular confession Nectarius Patriarch of Constantinople on the other-side did abrogate it because that vnder coulour of confession an Adulterie was committed Honorius the third instituted the eliuation De conse dist 1. can vata dist 96. can vbi nom lifting vp of the bread in the Masse Gregorie the ninth that a little bell should be rung at the same Instant And Innocent the fourth that at the very instant men should fall on their knees Zephirin brought in Challices of glasse instead of wodden ones And Vrban Chalices or Cuppes of gold instead of glasse Nicholas the first excluded from the Counsell Emp. as being lay persons One the other-side Marcellus Damasus and Iulius permitted them to assist and be present at Councels Plat devitis Pontifi Stephen abolished openly the decrees of Constantine the second Stephen the sixt likewise reiected the decrees of Formosus Romanus the first disanulled the decrees of Stephen the sixt and Theodorus those of Romanus and Damasus those of Liberius and Paul the second those of Pius the second Behold say the Reformed the Traditions Alphon. con haeres lib. 1. cap. 4. Here. Marcel Eckine Iohan Gerson decrees and Canons which the Papists would attribute to the Apostles Behold the Christian Religion which the Popes of Rome boast to haue preserued and continued so sincere and pure without saying any thing of the most manifest heresies of the Popes that is to say that Pope Honorius was a Monothelite that Liberius was an Arrian that Marcellinus sacrificed to the Idols of the Pagans that Anastatius was a Photrinian and Iohn the 22. held opinion that soules perished and died before the day of Iudgement Sacriledge the fourth cause of refusall The fourth cause and reason why the Reformed Christians will not consent to receiue the Popes for their Iudges is their Simonie The fourth reason For it is verie cleare and manifest that the Popes gather together more gold and siluer by Annates first fruites or vacanties by presentations resignations in fauour recommendations dispensations for age and regularity of bodily infirmities by graces or fauours expectatiue reuolutions benefices vacant exemptions of visitations creations of notar●●s and protonotaries Apostolike for non obstantes for Indulgences to sculer Priests for reuocations for tolleration and suffering of Concubines and for diuers such like chaffers then all the Romane Monarches euer could collect or rayse from all the quarters of the world during the time that the Romane Monarchie was in most flourishing estate There is extant at this day a complaint in writing of the Kingdome of France The complaint of the Kingdome of France touching the Popes Simonie that the Popes had wont yeerely to draw out of the Realme only about eight and twentie tunnes of gold Diuers other such like complaints of kings may be readily found out yea of Clerkes themselues and of other great Ecclesiasticall persons all which accuse verie greatly the Simonie of Popes And how true all it afore-said is it manifestly appeareth by the