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A91303 The treachery and disloyalty of papists to their soveraignes, in doctrine and practise. Together with an exact parallel of the jurisdiction, power, and priviledges claimed and exercised by our popish Parliaments, prelates, Lords and Commons in former times, with those now claimed and practised by the present Parliament, Lords and Commons, which are here manifested to be farre more loyall, dutifull, moderate; more consistent with, lesse invasive on, and destructive to the Kings pretended soveraigne power and prerogative, then those of popish parliaments, and subjects. Wherein likewise the traiterous, antimonarchicall doctrines, practises and attempts of papists upon their soveraignes prerogatives, crownes, persons, with the dangerous consequences, effects, and designes, of their present illegall arming, and accesse to the Kings Army, and person by meanes of evill counsellours, are briefely discovered; ... It is ordered by the Committee for Printing that this treatise be forthwith printed and published, by Michael Sparke, senior. Januar. 13. 1642. John White.; Soveraigne power of parliaments and kingdomes. Part 1 Prynne, William, 1600-1669.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1643 (1643) Wing P4108; Thomason E248_1; ESTC R203188 101,087 43

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and true allegiance to them and them protect to the uttermost of their power against all conspiracies and attempts whatsoever against their Persons Crowne and Dignity by reason of any such sentence or Declaration or otherwise And that they doe from their hearts abhorre detest and abjure as impi●us and hereticall this damnable● Doctrine and position prosessedly maintained by English Papists else why should the Parliament prescribe and they absolutely refuse to take this Oath that Princes excommunicated or deprived by the Pope may be deposed or murdered by their Subjects or any other whatsoever Willthose then who refuse to take this Oath or abjure this King deposing King-killing Doctrine harbouring a Seminary Priest in their Tents and a Pope in their hearts prove a faithfull guard to his Majesties Person Crowne or Kingdomes Will those who so o●● conspired the death and attempted the murthers of Queene Elizabeth and King James onely because they were Protestants and Defenders of the Protestant Faith now cordially protect and assist King Charles without attempting any thing against his Crowne or Person who hath lately made and published so many Protestations and Declarations that he will never embrace nor countenance Popery but most resolutely Defend and Advance the Protestant Religion and makes this one principall motive how truely he taketh Heaven and Earth to witnesse of his present taking up of Armes Will they thinke you spend their lives for King and Parliament who but few yeares since lost their lives for attempting by a traine of Gunpowder to blow up both King and Parliament Will those secure his Majesty in his Throne now he is actually King of England who would have murthered him in his Cradle ere he was Prince to forestall him of the Crowne of England ca●● those prove really loyall to his Majesty and his Royall Posterity who would have blowne up him and all royall House at once even long before he had posterity In a word if ancient presidents will not convince us are those who for d See Dr. Jones his Booke of Examinations two yeares last past or more have beene labouring with might and maine to uncrowne his Majesty and utterly extirpate the Protestant Religion by horrid conspiracies and force of Armes in Ireland and are now there acting the last Scene of this most barbarous bloudy Tragedy now likely to spend their dearest blood in fighting for the preservation of his Majesties Crowne and the Protestant cause in England if thi● onely be the reall quarrell as is specioully pretended Or will any of that Religion who within these thre● yeares have by force of Armes both in Catalonia Portugall and elsewhere revolted from and cast off thei● allegiance to their owne most Catholicke King to setup others of the same Religion in his Tribunall put t●● their helping hands to establish his Majesty the most Protestant King in his regall Throne admit it were really not fictitiously indangered to be shaken Certainely if the ground of this unnaturall warre be such a● these ill Consellors pretend they would never be so farre besotted as to make choyce of such unfitting Champions as Papists for such a designe who are very well knowne to be the greatest enemies and malignants o● all others both to King Kingdome Religion and Parliament whose joynt destructions what ever thes● ill Counsellors pretend is questionlesse the onely thing really intended by the Popish party in this warre a● the proceedings in Ireland the introducing of soraine the raising of domesticke popish Forces the disarmin● of Protestants and Arming Papists with their Harnesse clearely demonstrate to all whom prejudice hath no● blinded Now that I may evidence to these pernicious Counsellours and all the world how dangerous and unsa●● it is for his Majesty and the Kingdome to put Armes into Papists hands and make use of them to protect th● Kings Person or Crown I shall desire them to take notice both of the Papists traiterous Doctrine and Practise in these three particulars they maintaine First That the Pope by a meere divine right is the sole and supreme Monarch of the whole world and all ●●● Kingdomes in it to dispose of them at his pleasure to whom and when he will without giving any account of his actions That all Emperours and Kings are but his vassals deriving and holding their Crownes from him by base u●worthy services worse then villenage that they call and repute them their Popes vassals curs packe asses wi● Bels about their neckes and use them like such if they offend the Pope For full proofe whereof out of their ow● Authors and practise I shall referre them to Doctor e Dedicated to King Iames printed at London 1621. Richard Crakenthorps Booke Of the Popes Tempore● Monarchy chap. 1. p. 1. to 27. worthy any mans reading to John Bodins Commonwealth Lib. 1. cap. 9. a●● Doctor John Whites Defence of the way to the true Church chap. 10. p. 43. Secondly That the Pope alone without a Councell may lawfully excommunicate censure depose both Emperours Kings and Princes and dispose of their Crownes and Kingdomes unto others That it is meet and necessary hee should ●xcommunicate and deprive all Kings who are either Heretickes or Apostates as they repute all Protestant Princes ●●r oppressers of the Common wealth That as soone as such Princes are actually excommunicated or notoriously knowne to ●●e Heretickes or Apostates their Subjects are ipso fact● absolved from their government and Oathes of Allegiance whereby they were bound unto them and may yea ought to take up armes against them to deprive them of their kingdomes Thirdly That such tyranicall and oppressing Kings may be killed poysoned or slaine by open force of Armes not onely lawfully but with glory and commendations That this is to be executed by Catholikes and that it is not onely an heroi●all but meritorious act worthy the highest Encomiums These two last pro positions you may read abundantly proved by the words of Popish writers and 40. examples of several Emperours Kings and Princes which Popes Papists have excommunicated deprived violent●y assaulted and murthered in e Dedicated to King Iames and printed at London 1624. Doctor John Whites defence of the way to the true Church chap. 6. pag. 14. to 22. and chap. 10. pag. 43. 44. in his Sermon at Pauls Crosse March 24. 1615. pag. 11. 12. in Bishop Bilsons true difference of Christian Subjection and unchristian rebellion part 3 throughout Aphorismi doctrinae Jesuitarum King James his Apologie against Bellarmine with his Answer to Cardinall Perron and sundry printed Sermons preached on the fist of November to which I shall referre the Reader What security or protection then of his Majesties royall Person Crowne or Kingdomes can now be expected from our Popish Recusants infected with these traytorous Principles and branded with so many ancient moderne nay present treasons and Rebellions against their Soveraignes let the world and all wise men seriously judge What faire quarter and brotherly assistance the
houses license under paine a Major Pars est totum Brookes Corporations 34. Smiths Common-wealth of England l. 2. c. 3. ●f inditement imprisonment or fine as appeares by the Bishop of Winchesters case 3. E. 3. 19. Fitz. ●orone 161. and Stamford l. 3 c. 1. f. 153 compleatly answers that fond cavill of the Malignants ●nd Royalists against this Parliament that the king and many of the other members have wilfully ●bsented themselves from the House of purpose to dissolve it if they could notwithstanding the late ●peciall Act made by their joyntconsents for its continuance Ergo this unlawfull Action of theirs to effect this pernicious designe must nullifie or at least invalid in their new non-sence Law and ●ogicke the lawfull proceedings of those worthy faithfull members who continue in it to preserve ●oth Parliament Kingdome Religion Lawes Liberties from ruine and dissolution If these ab●ent members be the greater number why doe they not come and over-vote the rest in the House in peaceable legall usuall Parliamentary way rather then challenge them into the field in a military ●legall unusuall bloody manner unheard of in former ages If the lesser party then present or ab●ent the Major part must over-rule them volensnolens as it hath ever used unlesse they will be wil●●ller I cannot say wiser then all their predecessors put together As for his Majesties absence from Parliament by the pernicious advise of Evill Counsellors so Object ●uch insisted on by Malignants I answer 1. That it was without any just cause given by the Parliament Secondly It was much Answ ●gainst their wills who have a See their Messages and petitions to the king to this purpose oft importuned petitioned and used all possible meanes to procure ●is returne 3. His absence was procured and is yet continued by those alone who most unjustly ●axe the Parliament for it and would take advantage of this their owne wrong Fourthly though ●e be personally absent as a man yet he is still Legally present in Parliament called the kings pre●ence as he is a king as he is in al other his Courts of Iustice where all proceedings are entred b See Camdens Brit. p. 163. which stiles the Parliament the kings presence The Register of Writs Old New Natura Brevium old and new book of Entries Cookes Institures on Littleton f. 71. 6 Co●am Rege though the king never yet sate personally in either of them as he hath oft times done in his Parliament for the continuance whereof he hath passed such an Act as will inseperably tye his ●oyall presence to it though his Cavaliers about him should by force withdraw his person from it ●ot onely as farre as Yorke but the remotest Indies yea he must first cease to be king of England ere ●e can be legally absent from his Parliament of England This his wilfull personall absence from ●is greatest Counsell which desires and needes it is as many conceive an Act of the highest in justice ●hat ever any Prince could offer to his Parliament worse then a ● King 12. 2 Chron. 18. Reh●boams forsaking the counsell ●f his ancient Sages to follow the hare braind advise of his young Cavaleers for though he follow●d not their ancient prudent counsell yet he withdrew not himselfe from them as his Majestie ●oth now sever himselfe from his Parliament not onely without but against all prefidents of his ●oyall predecessors except king b Richard the second who once absented himselfe from his Parlia●ent above 40. dayes yet then returned to it upon better advise and the very common custome and ●aw of the Land which he is obliged by his Coronation oath and many late protestations added ●o it constantly to maintaine This appeares most clearely by the ancient Treatise of the man●er of holding of Parliaments in England both before and since the conquest * See Minshes Dictionary Title Parliament f. 526. tende●ed to and ap●roved by the Conquerone himselfe newly printed 1641 which in the Section touching the kings ●bsence from Parliament resolves thus The king is BOVND by all meanes possible TO BE PRESENT AT THE PARLIAMENT unlesse he be detained or let therefrom by bodily ●icknesse and then he may keepe his chamber yet so as he lye not without the Manour or Towne ●t the least where the Parliament is held and then he ought to send for 12. persons of the grea●est t Grafton p. 348. 349. 350. and best of them that are sommoned to the Parliament that is 2. Bishops 2. Earles 2 Ba●ons 2. Knights of the shire 2 Burgesses and 2. Citizens to looke upon his person to testifie and ●itnesse his estate and give A uthority to the Arch-bishop of the place the Steward of England ●nd chiefe justice that they joyntly and severally should begin the Parliament and continue the same ●● his name expresse mention being made in that commission of the * Note this cause of his absence there ●hich ought to suffice The reason is because there was wont to be a cry and murmure in the Par●iament for the kings absence because his absence is hurtfull and dangerous to the whole commo●alty of the Parliament neither indeede OVGHT OR MAY HE BE ABSENT BUT ONE●Y IN THE CASE AFORESAYD And whereas Malignants clamour that most of the ●ords are absent as well as the king and therefore this can be no lawfull Parliament The same ●uthor will in forme them that if the Lords be once sommoned to Parliament and then appeare ●ot or absent themselves the king may hold the Parliament with the commonalty and commons ●f the kingdome every of which hath a greater voyce in Parliament then the greatest Earle in Eng●●nd because he represents a whole county towne or city the other himselfe alone without Bishops ●arles or Barons because in times past before there was either Bishop Earle or Baron yet even ●hen kings kept their Parliaments but on the contrary no Parliament can be kept by the king and ●eeres if all the Commons for the kings misgovernment or such like cause should absent them●●lves This is the judgement of r In Holinsheads Chronicle of Ireland f. 127. 128. Master John Vowel too who writes in this manner Yet ne●●rthelesse if the king in due order have sommones all his Lords and Barons and they will not come or if they come they will not yet appeare or if they come and appeare yet will not doe or yeeld ●● any thing then the king with the consent of his Commons may ordain establish any acts or Lawe● which are as good sufficient and effectuall as if the Lords had given their consents But on th● contrary if the Commons be sommoned and will not come or comming will not appeare or appe●ring will not consent to doe any thing alleaging some just weighty and great cause the King in thes● cases d Cromptons Iurisdiction of Courts f. 8. 4. H. 7. 18. 7. H. 7. 14. 11. H. 7. 27. Parliament
Parliament Protestants Protestant Religion Lawes and Liberties of the Subject are like ●o receive from this Popish Army the late Gunpouder Treason the Spanish Armado the English and French booke of Martyrs the present proceedings in Ireland Yorkeshire and elsewhere will resolve without dispute And what peace and safetiè the Kingdome may expect in Church or State whiles Popery and Papists have any armed power or being among us f In his Sermon there Mar. 24. 1615. p. 43 44. Doctor John White hath long since proclaymed at Pauls Crosse and now we feele it by experience in these words Papistry can stand neither with peace nor piety the State therefore that would have these things hath just cause to suppresse it Touching our peace it bath not beene violated in our State these many yeares but by them nor scarce in any Christian State since Charles the great his time but the Pope and his ministers have had a hand in it All that these ill advisers to colour their close g See Plaine English designe of reestablishing Popery principally intended can alledge Obj. Crimination 1. for arming Papists against Law is That the Parliament hath traytorously invaded the Kings Prerogatives in a high degree claymed a power and jurisdiction above his Majesty in sundry particulars and ●surped ●o its selfe a more exorbitant unlimited arbitrary authority in making Lawes imposing taxes c. then any Parliaments challenged in former ages to represse which insolencies and reduce the Parliament to its due limits his Majestie is now necessited to raise an Army and pray in avde of Papists who in former ages have beene more moderate in their Parliaments and are like to prove most cordiall in this service To answer which pretence more fully though it be for the maine of it most palpably false yet by way of admission onely I shall suppose it true and with all possible brevitie manifest That Parliaments Prelates Peeres and Commons in times of Popery have both claimed and exercised farre greater authority over our Kings and their Prerogatives then this or any other Protestant Parliament hath done Wherefore Papists of ●ll others have least cause to taxe the Parliaments proceedings and those ill Counsellors small reason to im●loy Answ or trust Papists in this service To descend to some particular heads of complaint involved in this generall First it is objected that the Parliament and some of its h The observations A suller answer to Doctor Ferne with others Advocates with its approbation affirme that ●e Parliament being the representative body of the whole Kingdome is in some respects of greater power and authoritie ●hen the King who though he be singulis major yet he is universis minor which is contrary to the oath of supremacy wherein every Subject * 1 Eliz. ch 2. doth utterly testifie and declare in his conscience that the Kings highnesse is THE ONELY SVPREAME GOVERNOVR of this Realme c. as well in all spirituall or Ecclesiasticall causes as Temporall ●nd a kind of unkinging his Majestie no wayes to be indured To which I answer first that if this Doctrine be either Traytorous or Hereticall the Papists were the first broa●hers of it long agoe For Hen. de Bracton a famous English Lawyer who writ in King Henry the third his ●eigne lib. 2. cap. 16. f. 34. a. resolves thus i Rex habet superiorem Deum c. Item legem per quam factus est Rex-Item Curiam s●●● viz. Comites et Barones quia Comites dicuntur quasi socis Regis qui habet socium habet m●●istrum Et ideo si Rex fuerit sine fran● i fine lege DEBENTEI FRAENVM IMTONERE c. But the King hath a SVPERIOVR to wil God Also the Law by ●hich he is made a King likewise his Court namely the Earles and Barons because they are called Comites as being ●e Kings fellowes or companions and he who hath a fellow or associate hath a Master and therefore if the King shall ●e without a bridle that is without Law they OVGHT to impose a bridle on him unlesse they themselves with the King ●all be without bridle and then the Subjects shall ery out and say O Lord Jesus Christ doe thou bind their jawes with it and bridle c. A cleare resolution That the Law with the Earles and Barons assembled in Parliament are ●bove the King and ought to bridle him when he exorbitates from the Law which he also seconds in some sort ●b 3. cap. 9. f. 107. This Doctrine was so authenticke in those dayes and after times that in the great Councell of Basil Anno 143● when this mighty question was debated whether a Pope were above a generall Councell or a Councell above him such a Councell was at last resolved to be above the Pope upon this reason among others k Fox Acts Monume Edit 1641. Vol. 2 p. 879 880. Aeneas Sylvius de gestis concilii Basiliensis Surius concil Tom. 4. The Pope is in the Church as a King is in his Kingdome and for a King to be of more authority then his Kingdome it were too absurd Ergo Neither ought the Pope to be above the Church In every well ordered Kingdome it ought specially to be desired that the whole Realme should be of more authority then the King which if it happened contrary were not to be called a Kingdome but a Tyranny And like as oftentimes Kings which doe wickedly governe the Common-wealth and expresse cruelty are deprived of ●heir Kingdomes even so it is not to bee doubted but that the Bishop of Rome may be deposed by the Church that is to say by the generall Councell At the beginning as * Lib. 2. Cicero in his Offices saith it is certaine there was a time when as the people lived without Kings But afterwards when Lands and possessions began to be divided according to the Custome of every Nation then were Kings ordained for no other causes but onely to execute justice for when at the beginning the common people were oppressed by rich and mighty men they ran by and by to some good and vertuous man which should defend the poore from injury and ordaine Lawes whereby the rich and poore might dwell together But when as yet under the rule of Kings the poore were oftentime● oppressed Lawes were ordained and instituted the which should judge neither for hatred nor favour and give like eare unto the poore as rich whereby wee understand and know not onely the people but also the King to be subject to the Law For if wee doe see a King to contemne and dispise the Lawes violently rob and spoyle his Subjects d●flower Virgins dishonest Matrons and doe all things licentiously and temerariously doe not the Nobles of the Kingdome Assemble together deposing him from his Kingdome set up another in his place which shall sweare to rule and governe uprightly and be obedient unto the Lawes Verily as reason doth perswade even so