Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	bishop_n	king_n	prince_n	1,915	5	5.6349	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A52055	Smectymnuus redivivus Being an answer to a book, entituled, An humble remonstrance. In which, the original of liturgy episcopacy is discussed, and quæries propounded concerning both. The parity of bishops and presbyters in scripture demonstrated. The occasion of the imparity in antiquity discovered. The disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested. The antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated. The prelaticall church bounded.	Smectymnuus.; Marshall, Stephen, 1594?-1655.; Calamy, Edmund, 1600-1666.; Young, Thomas, 1587-1655.; Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; Spurstowe, William, 1605?-1666.	1654 (1654)	Wing M784; ESTC R223740	77,642	91

christi_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la post_fw-la quam_fw-la ad_fw-la christianos_n principes_fw-la venit_fw-la potentiâ_fw-la quidem_fw-la &_o divitiis_fw-la major_n sed_fw-la virtutibus_fw-la minor_fw-la facta_fw-la est_fw-la then_o also_o be_v that_o conjunction_n find_v true_a that_o when_o they_o have_v wooden_a chalice_n they_o have_v golden_a priest_n but_o when_o their_o chalice_n be_v golden_a their_o priest_n be_v wooden_a and_o though_o we_o do_v not_o think_v there_o be_v any_o such_o incompossibility_n but_o that_o large_a revenue_n may_v be_v happy_o manage_v with_o a_o humble_a sociablnesse_n yet_o be_v very_o rare_a to_o find_v history_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o superfluous_a revenue_n of_o the_o bishop_n not_o only_o make_v they_o neglect_v their_o ministry_n but_o further_o usher_v in_o their_o stately_a and_o pompous_a attendance_n which_o do_v so_o elevate_v their_o spirit_n that_o they_o insult_v over_o their_o brethren_n both_o clergy_n and_o people_n and_o give_v occasion_n to_o other_o to_o hate_v and_o abhor_v the_o christian_a faith_n which_o eusebius_n set_v forth_o full_o in_o the_o pride_n of_o paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la who_o notwithstanding_o the_o meanness_n and_o obscurity_n of_o his_o birth_n afterward_o grow_v to_o that_o height_n of_o insolency_n and_o pride_n in_o all_o his_o carriage_n especial_o in_o that_o numerous_a train_n that_o attend_v he_o in_o the_o street_n and_o in_o his_o stately_a throne_n raise_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o king_n and_o prince_n 29._o that_o fides_n nostra_fw-la invidiae_fw-la &_o odio_fw-la propter_fw-la fastam_fw-la &_o superbiam_fw-la cordis_fw-la illius_fw-la facta_fw-la fuerit_fw-la obnoxia_fw-la the_o christian_a faith_n be_v expose_v to_o envy_v and_o hatred_n through_o his_o pride_n and_o as_o their_o ambition_n feed_v with_o the_o largeness_n of_o their_o revenue_n discover_v itself_o in_o great_a attendance_n stately_a dwelling_n and_o all_o lordly_a pomp_n so_o hierom_n complain_v of_o their_o pride_n in_o their_o stately_a seat_n qui_fw-la velut_fw-la in_o aliqua_fw-la sublimi_fw-la specula_fw-la constituti_fw-la vix_fw-la dignantur_fw-la videre_fw-la mortales_fw-la &_o alloqui_fw-la conservos_fw-la su●s_fw-la who_o fit_v aloft_o as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o watch-tow_a will_v scarce_o deign_v to_o look_v upon_o poor_a mortal_n or_o speak_v to_o their_o fellow-servant_n here_o we_o may_v be_v large_a in_o multipy_v several_a testimony_n against_o the_o pride_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n that_o the_o largeness_n of_o their_o revenue_n raise_v they_o to_o but_o we_o will_v conclude_v with_o that_o grave_a complaint_n of_o sulpitius_n severus_n ille_fw-la qui_fw-la antè_fw-la p●dibus_fw-la aut_fw-la as●lloire_fw-fr consueverat_fw-la spumante_fw-la equ●_fw-la superbus_fw-la inu●hitur_fw-la paruâ_fw-la priùs_fw-la ac_fw-la vili_fw-la cellula_fw-la contentus_fw-la habitare_fw-la erigit_fw-la celsus_fw-la laquearia_fw-la construit_fw-la multa_fw-la conclavia_fw-la sculpit_fw-la p●stes_fw-la pingit_fw-la a●maria_fw-la vestem_fw-la respuit_fw-la g●ossiorem_fw-la indumentum_fw-la molle_fw-la desiderat_fw-la etc._n etc._n which_o because_o the_o practice_n of_o our_o time_n have_v already_o turn_v into_o english_a we_o spare_v the_o labour_n to_o translate_v only_o suffer_v we_o be_v now_o to_o give_v a_o vale_n to_o our_o remonstrants_n argument_n to_o recollect_v some_o few_o thing_n first_o whereas_o this_o remonstrant_a say_v if_o we_o do_v not_o show_v out_o of_o the_o true_a &_o genuine_a write_n of_o those_o holy_a man_n 22._o that_o live_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n a_o clear_a &_o receive_a distinction_n of_o bishop_n presbyter_n and_o deacon_n as_o three_o distinct_a subordinate_a calling_n with_o a_o evident_a specification_n of_o the_o duty_n belong_v to_o each_o of_o they_o let_v this_o claim_v hierarchy_n be_v for_o ever_o rout_v out_o of_o the_o church_n we_o beseech_v you_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v how_o we_o have_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o genuine_a and_o undeniable_a write_n of_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o that_o these_o be_v not_o three_o distinct_a calling_n bishop_n be_v presbyter_n be_v with_o they_o all_o one_o name_n and_o office_n and_o that_o the_o distinction_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v not_o of_o divine_a institution_n but_o humane_a and_o that_o these_o bishop_n in_o their_o first_o institution_n do_v not_o differ_v so_o much_o from_o presbyter_n as_o our_o present_a bishop_n differ_v from_o they_o second_o whereas_o this_o remonstant_a say_v if_o our_o bishop_n challenge_v any_o other_o power_n than_o be_v by_o apostolic_a authority_n delegated_a to_o 23._o and_o require_v of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o the_o angel_n of_o the_o asian_a church_n l●t_v they_o be_v disclaim_v as_o usurper_n we_o desire_v it_o may_v be_v remember_v how_o we_o have_v prove_v first_o that_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o the_o angel_n who_o be_v diocesan_n bishop_n and_o second_o that_o our_o bishop_n challenge_n if_o not_o in_o their_o polemickes_n yet_o in_o their_o practic_n a_o power_n that_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o those_o angel_n never_o do_v three_o whereas_o this_o remonstrant_a say_v if_o there_o can_v be_v better_a evidence_n under_o heaven_n for_o any_o matter_n of_o fact_n 2d_o let_v episcopacy_n be_v for_o ever_o abandon_v out_o of_o god_n church_n we_o beseech_v you_o remember_v how_o weak_a we_o have_v discover_v his_o evidence_n to_o be_v and_o then_o the_o inference_n upon_o all_o these_o we_o humble_o leave_v to_o your_o honour_n wisdom_n and_o justice._n sect_n fourteen_o have_v thus_o consider_v the_o validity_n of_o those_o argument_n whereby_o this_o remonstrant_a will_v suffult_v episcopacy_n we_o descend_v now_o to_o inquire_v what_o satisfaction_n he_o give_v to_o those_o objection_n which_o himself_o frame_v as_o the_o main_a if_o not_o the_o ●ole_a argument_n that_o episcopacy_n be_v assaultable_a by_o and_o they_o be_v two_o first_o that_o plead_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o episcopacy_n be_v to_o the_o prejudice_n of_o sovereignty_n second_o that_o it_o cast_v a_o dangerous_a imputation_n upon_o all_o those_o reform_a church_n that_o want_v this_o government_n to_o the_o first_o the_o prejudice_n of_o sovereignty_n he_o answer_v there_o be_v a_o compatibleness_n in_o this_o case_n of_o god_n act_n and_o the_o king_n it_o be_v god_n that_o make_v the_o bishop_n the_o king_n that_o give_v the_o bishopric_n but_o we_o have_v prove_v already_o that_o god_n never_o make_v a_o bishop_n as_o he_o stand_v in_o his_o superiority_n over_o all_o other_o presbyter_n he_o never_o have_v god_n fiat_n and_o if_o they_o disclaim_v the_o influence_n of_o sovereignty_n unto_o their_o creation_n to_o a_o priority_n and_o assert_v that_o the_o king_n do_v not_o make_v they_o bishop_n they_o must_v have_v no_o be_v at_o all_o sure_o we_o be_v the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n proclaim_v that_o not_o only_a bishopric_n but_o bishop_n and_o all_o the_o jurisdiction_n they_o have_v 1●_n be_v from_o the_o king_n whereas_o the_o remonstrant_a acknowledge_v no_o more_o but_o the_o bare_a trid._n place_n and_o excercise_n to_o be_v from_o regal_a donation_n which_o can_v be_v affirm_v without_o apparent_a prejudice_n of_o that_o sovereignty_n which_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n have_v invest_v our_o prince_n with_o and_o for_o his_o unworthy_a comparison_n of_o king_n in_o order_n to_o bishop_n and_o patron_n in_o order_n to_o their_o clerk_n when_o he_o shall_v prove_v that_o the_o patron_n give_v ministerial_a power_n to_o his_o clerk_n as_o the_o king_n according_a to_o our_o law_n give_v episcopal_a power_n to_o the_o bishop_n it_o may_v be_v of_o some_o conducement_n to_o his_o cause_n but_o till_o then_o we_o leave_v the_o unfitnesse_n of_o this_o comparison_n and_o the_o unthankfulness_n of_o those_o man_n to_o the_o indulgence_n of_o their_o sovereign_n to_o their_o deserve_a recompense_n his_o learned_a answer_n to_o such_o man_n as_o borrow_a saint_n jeroms_n phrase_n speak_v saint_n paul_n truth_n be_v in_o sum_n this_o that_o he_o know_v not_o how_o to_o prescribe_v to_o man_n thought_n but_o for_o all_o his_o rhetoric_n 29._o they_o will_v think_v what_o they_o list_v but_o if_o they_o will_v grant_v he_o the_o question_n they_o shall_v soon_o be_v at_o a_o end_n of_o the_o quarrel_n which_o one_o answer_n if_o satisfactory_a will_v silence_v all_o controversy_n to_o as_o good_a purpose_n as_o he_o do_v bellarmine_n who_o say_v bellarmine_n say_v it_o be_v thus_o and_o i_o say_v it_o be_v not_o and_o where_o be_v bellarmine_n now_o 29._o to_o the_o second_o objection_n that_o episcopacy_n thus_o assert_v cast_v a_o imputation_n upon_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o want_v that_o government_n he_o say_v that_o the_o objection_n be_v intend_v to_o raise_v envy_n against_o they_o who_o if_o they_o may_v be_v believe_v love_n and_o honour_v those_o sister-churche_n and_o 〈◊〉_d god_n for_o they_o but_o do_v they_o out_o pluck_v all_o this_o envy_n upon_o themselves_o who_o in_o their_o conference_n write_n pulpit_n university_n dispute_n high_a commission_n declamation_n have_v disclaim_v they_o as_o no_o church_n that_o 〈◊〉_d

word_n of_o truth_n and_o confidence_n yet_o how_o little_a truth_n there_o be_v in_o his_o great_a confidence_n the_o ensue_a discourse_n shall_v discover_v his_o very_a word_n be_v confident_a enough_o and_o yet_o as_o false_a as_o confident_a wherein_o he_o impropriates_n all_o honesty_n unto_o these_o his_o paper_n and_o brand_v all_o other_o with_o the_o name_n of_o libeler_n and_o yet_o himself_o sin_n deep_o against_o the_o rule_n of_o honesty_n and_o lie_v naked_a to_o the_o scourge_n of_o his_o own_o censure_n first_o ●_o in_o set_v a_o brand_n upon_o all_o write_n that_o have_v late_o issue_v from_o the_o press_n as_o if_o they_o have_v forget_v to_o speak_v any_o other_o language_n then_o libellous_a it_o seem_v himself_o have_v forget_v that_o some_o thing_n have_v issue_v by_o authority_n of_o the_o king_n and_o parliament_n second_o in_o tax_v implicit_o all_o such_o as_o will_v not_o own_o this_o remonstrance_n for_o they_o as_o none_o of_o the_o peaceable_a and_o well-affected_n son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n three_o in_o censure_v the_o way_n of_o petition_v your_o honour_n the_o ancient_a and_o ordinary_a free_a way_n of_o seek_v redress_n of_o our_o evil_n 2._o for_o a_o tumultuary_a underhand_o way_n four_o in_o condemn_v all_o such_o as_o be_v not_o fautor_n of_o this_o episcopal_a cause_n as_o none_o of_o his_o majesty_n good_a subject_n engross_a that_o praise_n only_o to_o his_o own_o party_n 3._o say_v the_o eye_n of_o we_o the_o good_a subject_n of_o this_o whole_a realm_n be_v fix_v upon_o your_o success_n etc._n etc._n five_o in_o impropriate_v to_o the_o same_o party_n the_o praise_n of_o orthodox_n 6._o pag._n 6._o as_o if_o to_o speak_v a_o word_n or_o think_v a_o thought_n against_o episcopacy_n be_v no_o less_o heresy_n than_o it_o be_v in_o former_a time_n to_o speak_v against_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n or_o the_o monk_n fat_a belly_n whereas_o whether_o the_o episcopal_a part_n be_v the_o orthodox_n peaceable_a well-affected_n part_n and_o his_o majesty_n only_o good_a subject_n we_o leave_v to_o your_o honour_n to_o judge_n upon_o the_o numerous_a information_n that_o flow_v in_o unto_o you_o from_o the_o several_a part_n of_o this_o kingdom_n 2._o nor_o can_v they_o decline_v your_o judgement_n see_v now_o you_o be_v through_o god_n blessing_n happy_o meet_v in_o a_o much_o long_v for_o parliament_n but_o whither_o so_o much_o long_v for_o by_o he_o and_o his_o accomplice_n as_o by_o those_o against_o who_o he_o whet_v his_o style_n the_o prayer_n that_o have_v obtain_v this_o happy_a meeting_n and_o the_o praise_n that_o do_v attend_v it_o will_v decide_v in_o that_o great_a day_n the_o helena_n who_o champion_n this_o remonstrant_a chief_o be_v be_v that_o government_n which_o he_o call_v sacred_a viz._n that_o government_n by_o arch-bishop_n bishop_n dean_n archdeacon_n &c._n &c._n which_o say_v he_o through_o the_o side_n of_o some_o mislike_v person_n some_o have_v endeavour_v to_o wound_v mislike_v person_n and_o why_o not_o offend_v person_n why_o not_o guilty_a person_n when_o this_o honourable_a house_n have_v find_v just_a cause_n to_o charge_v some_o of_o they_o with_o crime_n of_o the_o high_a nature_n our_o zeal_n for_o your_o honour_n make_v we_o fear_v lest_o your_o assembly_n shall_v suffer_v in_o this_o word_n as_o if_o your_o proceed_n against_o such_o person_n shall_v be_v ground_v upon_o compliance_n with_o such_o as_o do_v mislike_v they_o rather_o than_o upon_o their_o own_o demerit_n or_o the_o justice_n of_o this_o court_n but_o whatever_o those_o person_n be_v the_o government_n itself_o be_v sacred_a 7._o which_o by_o the_o joint_a confession_n of_o all_o reform_a divine_n derive_v itself_o from_o the_o time_n of_o the_o bless_a apostle_n untruth_n without_o any_o interruption_n without_o contradiction_n of_o any_o one_o congregation_n in_o the_o world_n unto_o this_o present_a age_n this_o be_v but_o a_o episcopal_a bravado_n therefore_o we_o let_v it_o pass_v till_o we_o come_v to_o close_v and_o contend_v with_o he_o in_o the_o point_n where_o we_o shall_v demonstrate_v that_o in_o the_o compass_n of_o three_o line_n he_o have_v pack_v up_o as_o many_o untruth_n as_o can_v be_v smooth_o couch_v in_o so_o few_o word_n as_o any_o man_n of_o common_a understanding_n that_o look_v upon_o the_o face_n of_o the_o government_n of_o almost_o all_o reform_a church_n in_o the_o christian_a world_n may_v at_o first_o view_n discover_v but_o before_o we_o come_v to_o this_o there_o be_v yet_o two_o thing_n in_o this_o preface_n which_o we_o count_v not_o unworthy_a observation_n the_o first_o be_v the_o comparison_n which_o he_o make_v between_o the_o two_o government_n the_o civil_a which_o with_o we_o be_v monarchy_n and_o the_o sacred_a which_o with_o he_o be_v episcopaey_n of_o the_o first_o he_o say_v 8._o if_o antiquity_n may_v be_v the_o rule_n as_o he_o plead_v it_o for_o episcopacy_n or_o if_o scripture_n as_o he_o interpret_v scripture_n it_o be_v variable_a and_o arbitrary_a but_o the_o other_o divine_a and_o unalterable_a so_o that_o have_v man_n petition_v for_o the_o alter_n of_o monarchical_a government_n they_o have_v in_o his_o judgement_n be_v less_o culpable_a both_o by_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n then_o in_o petition_v the_o alteration_n of_o the_o hierarchicall_a have_v he_o find_v but_o any_o such_o passage_n in_o any_o of_o his_o lewd_a libeler_n as_o his_o modesty_n be_v always_o please_v to_o term_v they_o certain_o if_o we_o may_v borrow_v his_o own_o phrase_n the_o ear_n of_o the_o three_o interest_v kingdom_n yea_o all_o the_o neigbbour_n church_n and_o if_o we_o may_v say_v the_o whole_a christian_a world_n and_o no_o small_a part_n beyond_o it_o have_v run_v with_o the_o loud_a cry_n of_o no_o less_o than_o treason_n treason_n truth_n be_v in_o his_o antiquity_n we_o find_v that_o this_o his_o uninterrupted_a sacred_a government_n have_v so_o far_o invade_v the_o civil_a and_o so_o yoke_v monarchy_n even_o in_o this_o kingdom_n as_o malmesbury_n report_v that_o william_n rufus_n oppress_v by_o bishop_n persuade_v the_o jew_n to_o confute_v they_o 4._o promise_v thereupon_o to_o turn_v england_n to_o their_o religion_n that_o he_o may_v be_v free_a of_o bishop_n and_o this_o be_v so_o natural_a a_o effect_n of_o unalterable_a episcopacy_n that_o pius_n the_o four_o to_o the_o spanish_a ambassador_n importune_v he_o to_o permit_v bishop_n to_o be_v declare_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n to_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la give_v this_o answer_n trid._n that_o his_o king_n know_v not_o what_o he_o do_v desire_n for_o if_o bishop_n shall_v be_v so_o declare_v they_o will_v be_v all_o exempt_v from_o his_o power_n and_o as_o independent_a as_o the_o pope_n himself_o the_o second_o thing_n observable_a be_v the_o comparison_n he_o make_v between_o the_o late_a alteration_n attempt_v in_o our_o neighbour_n church_n by_o his_o episcopal_a faction_n and_o that_o alteration_n that_o be_v now_o just_o desire_v by_o the_o humble_a petitioner_n to_o this_o honourable_a house_n the_o one_o be_v attempt_v by_o stranger_n endeavour_v violent_o to_o obtrude_v innovation_n upon_o a_o settle_a church_n and_o state_n the_o other_o humble_o petition_v to_o the_o head_n and_o prince_n of_o our_o state_n by_o multitude_n therein_o almost_o ruin_v by_o a_o innovate_a faction_n yet_o do_v not_o this_o remonstrant_a blush_n to_o say_v if_o these_o be_v brand_v so_o he_o call_v the_o just_a censure_n of_o this_o honourable_a house_n for_o incendiary_n how_o shall_v these_o boutefeux_fw-fr escape_n etc._n etc._n thus_o cunning_o endeavour_v either_o to_o justify_v the_o former_a by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o latter_a 9_o or_o to_o render_v the_o latter_a more_o odious_a than_o the_o former_a the_o attempt_n of_o these_o man_n who_o he_o will_v thus_o render_v odious_a he_o crave_v leave_v to_o present_v to_o your_o honour_n in_o two_o thing_n which_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o this_o quarrel_n the_o liturgy_n and_o episcopacy_n and_o we_o humble_o crave_v your_o honour_n leave_v in_o both_o to_o answer_v sect_n ii_o first_o the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n say_v he_o have_v be_v hitherto_o esteem_v sacred_a liturgy_n reverent_o use_v by_o holy_a martyr_n daily_o frequent_v by_o devout_a protestant_n 10._o as_o that_o which_o more_o than_o once_o have_v be_v confirm_v by_o the_o edict_n of_o religious_a prince_n and_o your_o own_o parliamentary_a act_n etc._n etc._n and_o have_v it_o so_o whence_o then_o proceed_v these_o many_o addition_n and_o alteration_n that_o have_v so_o change_v the_o face_n and_o fabric_n of_o the_o liturgy_n that_o as_o dr._n hall_n speak_v once_o of_o the_o pride_n of_o england_n if_o our_o forefather_n shall_v revive_v and_o see_v their_o daughter_n walk_v in_o cheapside_n with_o their_o fan_n and_o farthingale_n etc._n etc._n they_o will_v wonder_v what_o

of_o cornelius_n they_o come_v before_o the_o presbytery_n and_o therefore_o confess_v their_o sin_n 6._o and_o so_o be_v admit_v but_o though_o the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n be_v manage_v only_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o those_o that_o labour_v in_o the_o word_n and_o doctrine_n yet_o we_o will_v not_o conceal_v from_o you_o that_o neither_o excommunication_n not_o absolution_n do_v pass_v without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o approbation_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o the_o delinquent_n do_v belong_v so_o we_o have_v learn_v out_o of_o tertullian_n 59_o that_o their_o censure_n be_v order_v in_o their_o public_a assembly_n and_o good_a reason_n because_o the_o people_n be_v to_o forbear_v communion_n with_o such_o 2_o thes._n 3.6_o 14_o 15._o and_o public_a censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v inflict_v not_o only_o for_o the_o emendation_n of_o delinquent_n but_o for_o the_o admonition_n of_o other_o and_o therefore_o aught_o to_o be_v admistr●d_v in_o public_a that_o other_o may_v fear_v 1_o tim._n 5.20_o origen_n speak_v of_o the_o duty_n and_o power_n of_o the_o church_n in_o cut_v off_o a_o scandalous_a person_n though_o a_o presbyter_n josh._n make_v the_o case_n his_o own_o he_o say_v thus_o in_o uno_fw-la consensu_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la universa_fw-la conspirans_fw-la excidat_fw-la i_o d●xtram_fw-la svam_fw-la &_o projiciat_fw-la a_o se_fw-la he_o will_v have_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o that_o act._n and_o when_o the_o lapse_v christian_n be_v receive_v again_o into_o the_o church_n the_o people_n consent_n be_v require_v therein_o else_o why_o shall_v cyprian_n say_v vix_fw-la plebi_fw-la per_fw-la suadeo_fw-la imò_fw-la extorqueo_fw-la ut_fw-la tale_n patiantur_fw-la admitti_fw-la 55._o i_o can_v scarce_o persuade_v the_o people_n to_o suffer_v such_o to_o be_v admit_v and_o in_o another_o epistle_n write_v to_o his_o people_n in_o his_o banishment_n he_o promise_v to_o examine_v all_o thing_n they_o be_v present_a and_o judge_a plebem_fw-la examinabuntur_fw-la singula_fw-la praesentibus_fw-la &_o judicantibus_fw-la vobis_fw-la but_o of_o this_o power_n of_o the_o people_n we_o shall_v have_v a_o further_a occasion_n to_o speak_v afterward_o when_o we_o come_v to_o discourse_v of_o govern_v elder_n only_o may_v it_o please_v your_o honour_n from_o hence_o to_o take_v notice_n how_o unjust_o our_o bishop_n have_v invade_v this_o right_a and_o power_n of_o presbyter_n and_o people_n in_o church_n censure_n and_o divest_v both_o of_o it_o have_v gird_v it_o whole_o upon_o themselves_o and_o how_o herein_o they_o and_o the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n be_v two_o sect_n x._o and_o as_o our_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n be_v two_o in_o point_n of_o sole_a jurisdiction_n so_o also_o in_o the_o delegation_n of_o this_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n unto_o other_o to_o their_o chancellor_n commissary_n officer_n 2._o etc._n etc._n be_v ever_o such_o a_o thing_n as_o this_o hear_v of_o in_o the_o best_a primitive_a time_n that_o man_n that_o never_o receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n shall_v not_o only_o be_v receive_v into_o assistance_n but_o be_v whole_o entrust_v with_o the_o power_n of_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n even_o then_o when_o it_o be_v to_o be_v exercise_v over_o such_o person_n as_o have_v have_v hand_n lay_v upon_o they_o we_o may_v observe_v in_o cyprian_a whilst_o persecution_n separate_v he_o from_o his_o church_n when_o question_n do_v arise_v among_o his_o people_n he_o do_v not_o send_v they_o to_o his_o chancellor_n or_o commissary_n no_o he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o substitute_v any_o man_n much_o less_o a_o lay_v man_n to_o determene_n or_o give_v judgement_n in_o such_o case_n that_o he_o will_v not_o assume_v that_o power_n whole_o to_o himself_o but_o suspend_v his_o judgement_n till_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n shall_v restore_v he_o to_o his_o church_n again_o that_o with_o the_o advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o the_o presbyter_n he_o may_v give_v sentence_n as_o may_v appear_v to_o any_o that_o shall_v peruse_v his_o epistle_n sure_o if_o god_n have_v ever_o lead_v his_o church_n to_o such_o a_o way_n of_o deputation_n it_o will_v have_v be_v in_o such_o a_o case_n of_o necessity_n as_o this_o be_v or_o have_v any_o footstep_n of_o such_o a_o course_n as_o this_o be_v visible_a by_o this_o holy_a martyr_n in_o the_o go_n of_o former_a age_n he_o need_v not_o have_v defer_v the_o determination_n of_o the_o question_n about_o the_o receive_n of_o some_o penitent_a lapse_v one_o into_o the_o bosom_n of_o the_o church_n again_o till_o his_o return_n and_o the_o return_n of_o his_o clergy_n as_o he_o do_v 28._o we_o will_v instance_n in_o his_o 28_o epistle_n wherein_o give_v direction_n for_o the_o excommunicate_v of_o such_o as_o will_v rash_o communicate_v with_o lapse_v christian_n he_o give_v this_o charge_n not_o to_o his_o chancellor_n or_o commissary_n or_o any_o other_o man_n upon_o who_o he_o have_v devolve_v his_o power_n and_o set_v he_o as_o his_o deputy_n or_o vicar_n general_a in_o his_o absence_n but_o ad_fw-la clerum_fw-la to_o the_o whole_a presbytery_n this_o truth_n be_v so_o clear_a that_o bishop_n downam_n the_o great_a advocate_n of_o episcopacy_n confess_v son_n that_o in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n and_o a_o good_a while_n after_o which_o be_v about_o 400_o year_n till_o the_o presbyter_n be_v in_o a_o manner_n 〈…〉_z sect_n xi_o a_o three_o branch_n wherein_o the_o difference_n between_o our_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o former_a time_n in_o point_n of_o exercise_v their_o jurisdiction_n be_v visible_a be_v the_o way_n or_o manner_n of_o exercise_v that_o power_n for_o brevity_n sake_n we_o will_v only_o instance_n in_o their_o proceed_n in_o cause_n criminal_a where_o let_v they_o tell_v we_o whether_o any_o good_a antiquity_n can_v yield_v they_o one_o precedent_n for_o their_o oath_n exit_fw-la officio_fw-la which_o have_v be_v to_o their_o court_n as_o purgatory_n fire_n to_o the_o pope_n kitchen_n they_o have_v forget_v that_o old_a maxim_n in_o the_o civil_a law_n nemo_fw-la tenetur_fw-la prodere_fw-la seipsum_fw-la which_o as_o it_o be_v ground_v upon_o natural_a equity_n so_o it_o be_v confirm_v by_o a_o law_n enact_v by_o dioclesian_n and_o maximilian_n nimis_fw-la grave_n est_fw-la quod_fw-la petitis_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v too_o grievous_a that_o the_o adverse_a part_n shall_v be_v require_v to_o the_o exhibition_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o shall_v create_v trouble_n to_o themselves_o 7._o understand_v therefore_o that_o you_o ought_v to_o bring_v proof_n of_o your_o intention_n and_o not_o to_o extort_v they_o from_o your_o adversary_n against_o themselves_o shall_v the_o lamp_n of_o nature_n in_o the_o night_n of_o ehtnicism_n enable_v heathen_a prince_n yea_o persecutor_n to_o see_v and_o enact_v thus_o much_o and_o shall_v not_o the_o glorious_a sun_n of_o the_o gospel_n convince_v these_o of_o their_o iniquity_n in_o transgress_v this_o law_n that_o call_v themselves_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n if_o neither_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n nor_o gospel_n light_n can_v yet_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o they_o so_o oft_o appeal_v may_v both_o convince_v they_o of_o this_o iniquity_n and_o discover_v to_o all_o the_o world_n the_o contrariety_n of_o their_o proceed_n to_o the_o proceed_n of_o former_a time_n in_o this_o particular_a for_o of_o old_a both_o the_o plantiffe_n and_o defendant_n be_v bring_v face_n to_o face_n before_o the_o party_n in_o who_o power_n it_o be_v to_o judge_v 2._o which_o way_n of_o proceed_v athanasius_n affirm_v to_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o because_o those_o that_o condemn_v macarius_n do_v not_o thus_o proceed_v he_o condemn_v their_o sentence_n as_o malicious_a and_o unjust_a of_o old_a no_o sentence_n pass_v against_o any_o man_n but_o upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o other_o witness_n beside_o the_o accuser_n after_o complaint_n exhibit_v the_o first_o thing_n they_o apply_v themselves_o to_o be_v to_o consider_v the_o person_n and_o quality_n of_o the_o accuser_n ●naram_fw-la council_n prim_fw-la constant._n can._n 6_o then_o they_o hear_v the_o witness_n who_o be_v two_o at_o least_o can._n apost_n can._n 75._o and_o these_o witness_n must_v be_v such_o as_o may_v not_o be_v imagine_v to_o be_v partial_a nor_o to_o bear_v enmity_n nor_o malice_n against_o the_o party_n accuse_v ambros._n epist._n 64._o so_o gratian_n caus._n 3._o quae_fw-la 5._o cap._n quod_fw-la suspecti_fw-la of_o old_a none_o may_v be_v party_n witness_n and_o judge_n which_o gratian_n prove_v at_o large_a caus._n 4._o qu._n 4._o cap._n nullus_fw-la unquam_fw-la praesumat_fw-la accusator_fw-la simul_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o judex_n &_o testis_fw-la 24._o we_o grant_v indeed_o the_o canon_n law_n permit_v in_o some_o case_n trial_n without_o witness_n si_fw-la crimen_fw-la ita_fw-la publicum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la meritò_fw-la debeat_fw-la appellari_fw-la notorium_fw-la if_o