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A85789 The nullity of the pretended-assembly at Saint Andrews & Dundee: wherein are contained, the representation for adjournment, the protestation & reasons therof. Together with a review and examination of the Vindication of the said p. assembly. Hereunto is subjoyned the solemn acknowledgment of sins, and engagement to duties, made and taken by the nobility, gentry, burroughs, ministry, and commonalty, in the year 1648. when the Covenant was renewed. With sundry other papers, related unto in the foresaid review. Guthrie, James, 1612?-1661.; Wood, James, 1608-1664. 1652 (1652) Wing G2263; Wing W3400; Thomason E688_13; ESTC R202246 280,404 351

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