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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A76827	An answer to the late scandalous and libellous pamphlet, entituled, A complaint to the House of Commons; and resolution taken up by the free Protestant subjects of the cities of London and Westminster, and the counties adjacent. Wherein 'tis proved, that the Lord Major of London doth not usurp his office; but is a legall major, and obedience ought to be given him. / By Peter Bland of Grays-Inne, Gent.	Bland, Peter, of Gray's Inne.	1643 (1643)	Wing B3160; Thomason E244_36; ESTC R4975	8,071	16

former abuses as some expect for when great men and Favourites set a plot on foot there must needs be some stir to overthrow it especially when the Princes best assistance is not wanting to bring it to passe and for the 300000. pounds that the Scots had towards their charge they were put to Let me tell you there was a great deale of good English blood bought by that means at an easie rate considering the occasions we may have for their future imployment but those that caused that missing their bloody ends they expected from that civill war have caused this unnaturall war among our selves whereby they hope to compasse that by the Protestant blood of England alone which before they endeavoured by the destruction of two Protestant Kingdoms together Complaint In the eighth Page of that Book 't is thus penn'd viz. At the beginning of the Parliament they removed one highly charged for endeavouring the subversion of the fundament all Laws of the Land and though we are sure he was a great cause of our sufferings yet we could wish his attainder might not have been in such a manner as to need a Declaration that his manner of punishment should not be drawn into example Answer There was no Declaration 't was but a clause in the Bill of Attainder and that clause is no ready way neither to draw a suspition upon the justice of his sentence for this Parliament is not the first that have done so for by the Statute of 25. E 3. which is the Statute of Treasons you shall find that the very clause which this Parliament hath used in the Earle of Straffords Attainder is used there viz. No Judges shall presume to make any thing Treason that is not Treason by that Statute except it be done by the Parliament and though the Earl of Strafford was adjudged a Traytor by the Parliament yet I hope this Parliament hath the same authority to keepe this from being a President that the Parliament in Edward the thirds time had for hindering the Judges to go according to former Presidents And then for that part of the Pamphlet which layes aspersions upon the House for letting the Bishop of Canterbury and Judge Bartlet lye so long in Prison before they be tryed let me answer with that old rule quod defertur non aufertur all the world sees there are businesses that are more urgent then their Trialls about which the House is wholly imployed besides who does not see that the Parliament takes no delight in shedding of blood and therefore if a temporall imprisonment will amend the Malefactors what though the Parliament be willing to spare their lives and wave the accusation of Treason against any prisoner must it therefore follow that they could not make good their accusation No Parliaments are great bodies and though they move but slowly they are the lesse subject to rashnesse Complaint In the ninth Page of that Book it is thus penn'd viz. For the honest Lord Major Gurney if you will believe us which were present at his triall he might with more honour and justice too have been acquitted then sentenced his greatest fault being his obedience to his King Answer 'T were strange if the world should believe you the sooner for being an Auditor and by that meanes undervalue the judgement of a Parliament besides your reason you give shews the weaknesse of your judgement for when the Kings command is pleaded to justifie an unlawfull Act 't will be no barre to the censure for the King himselfe cannot be questioned for the fact but he that the King imployes must endure the brunt for the Kings command cannot be a dispensation for any mans offending me and for the scandalls that are by that Book layed upon the House of COMMONS and LORDS both they are so fearfully guilt with impudence that I dread to read them and therefore for an answer to them I shall only say that I think it no lesse Treason in the Pamphleteer that does his best endeavour to raise a Warre against the Parliament then 't is in them that fight the Battle Complaint In the thirteenth Page of that Book it is thus penn'd viz. What shall become of the multitude of the zealous Sectaries and Rabble of ignorant people sent to both Houses but especially to the House of Peers by Captain Ven and his Wife and Isaac Pennington to cry justice justice and no Bishops no Bishops to terrifie some Lords from the House and to awe others that were there Answer Here we may see with what invective malice the Pamphleteer did write against those that stand for the Parliament and so consequently for Gods cause could not that breeding which your lines tell you have had bridle your unmannerly passion so much as to give the Lord Major his due Title of Honour the King Himselfe who indeed is alwayes modest in his expressions which are free from passion was pleased to give him his Title of Alderman in his last Declaration and could you afford no better an expression then plaine Isaac if you doubt him to be a legall Major yet you cannot except against his being Alderman and then I hope if he had not bin a branch of that Noble and ancient family from whence he is undoubtedly descended yet at least he might have had the addition of a Gentleman by his being Alderman of the City of London and a Parliament man for that City but certainely he is now being legally chosen and sworne as legall a Major as any of his Predecessors were before all that you can urge against his Authority is that he hath not Commission from the King Pray see your errors now by the Charter of London the Office of the Lord Major should not goe by course but by the Cities election and by that Charter the King is according to his promise at his Confirmation of it to give a Commission to him whom the City does elect now they have elected Alderman Pennington and he is Sworn now if he should have no Authority for want of a Commission then you blame the King for not dealing with his City according to their Charter first granted by his Royall Predecessors and since confirmed by himselfe now I thinke if the Pamphleteer had known this rather then have laid such a fault upon the King he would have acknowledged him to be Lord Major of London and have given him his Title Complaint In the 19. page t is thus penned viz. We could never learn of any great experience of Marshall valour in my Lord Say or his Sonne that made them undertake imployments of that nature Answer For that Scandall laid upon my Lord Say his Son t is likely you were the first broacher of it for one of that factious and bold spirit your pamphlet shewes you to bee endued with would scorne to take newes at the second hand especially having so good an invention T is better to imploy some honest men that have but little skill then skilfull knaves that have no honesty yet at the end of Keynton Bataile there was no great signe of unskilfull Commanders Complaint In the 20. page of that Booke it is thus penned viz. We should weary out a patient reader to tell all our dstresses and how the businesses of Ireland have been carryed but 't would have trenched too much upon the honour of those Houses Answer That is mightily feared by you who if ever Treason were committed by writing a Pamphlet you are guilty for never was that impudence head of in any age that you have expressed against the State And if Burton and Pryn and Bastwicke did deserve to lose their eares I am sure thy life is forfeited You will not speake of Ireland least you should lay the Saddle upon the right Horse for t was the Parliament that sent the Coates and other necessaries for Ireland but t was not the Parliament that stopt any what greater offence can there be then to threaten that great Councell the Parliament as you have done was the poore man drawn hanged and quartered that raised a Tumult against the Bishop of Canterbury who was but of the Kings Privy Councell and shall it not be Treason to encourage others to war against a Parliament which is the Kings gveat Councell have other men been punished for their contempts showne to an inferiour Court and shall you goe free for not onely obeying but willfully opposing that court from whence there lyes no appeale have others bin severely punished for uttering words that did onely imply what you have openly published to all the world and can you imagine to scape the sentence of severity for your inviting others to your owne degree of Rebellion which you have done in the 24. page of your book where you desire all others to joyn with you in the opposition of all Ordinances that are made by the Parliament And thus I have done with your Pamphlet but for your selfe I shall leave you to the just sentence of the Honourable Houses of Parliament FINIS

that was committed upon no cause was upon his habeas corpus remanded and committed to prison Answer The Author doth here accuse the Parliament most foolishly and unjustly for every one that knowes the Parliament meddles not with cases of Fellony they being summoned to treat of things of a higher nature and there being inferiour Courts for the punishment of such crimes must needs suppose that he means the Judges though he seeks to set the people in direct opposition to the Parliament but our English Subjects are not led away with good lines they all know the benefit of a Parliament and have ever found them the sure revengers of an injured cause and when Malignant Favourites have barred them from their appeal to their gracious and religiously meaning Prince the Parliament being not subject to delusion have alwayes been ready to receive their complaints And whereas he accuseth the Parliament of imprisoning those that are innocent 't is an unheard of impudence for him to make himselfe more able to discerne betweene guilt and innocency then the Parliament if he have it by relation onely or tradition that the Parliament do so hearesay will not appeare a sufficient excuse either to mittigate his punnishment or maintain his wisdome or if he speake in his owne cause onely as perchance he may let him know that wisemen will never owne him for a competent Judge And for the Squibb he puts upon the Lords he should have nominated them in particular and then every one would have known who he had meant But it seemes for those Lords that are here he aymed at none of them else he would not have stucke to name them as well as my Lord Maior and others which he hath named And for the Lords that are with the King t is likely he meant not them for he knows that a generall plunder will be sufficient to pay particular debts but which of either he meant the abuse of Peerage deserves a sharper revenge then those new Prisons which he saith the Lords have found out to make their sentences appeare more severe Complaint In the fift page it is thus penned viz. It afflicts us to think of the pressures we underwent by new Imposts and that involuntary dangerous president of 40. s. per tun upon Wine Answer By this 't is made apparent what life he leades and what conversation he is of could he find nothing worth his complaint but that and yet for the taking away of that his grievance can he shew no greater a signe of thankfulnesse to the Parliament then scandalizing their just proceedings endeavouring to render them odious to the Common people who are the onely evidences that the Common People can shew for their enjoyment of what they call their owne for how soone had those small possessions which the poore enjoy bin throwne downe to build great Pallaces for the reaching Pollititians in their rooms had not the Parliament like a brazen wall defended them against those Rebellious Traytors who quite forget that the Subjects giue nothing to the King for the Kingdomes use but with adjunction of their own Interests interlacing in one and the same Act His Majesties reliefe and their owne Liberties which they never doe out of suspition of the Kings Piety or out of a feare of any ill that the King will do but fearing what wicked Councell may by possibility perswade him to doe Complaint In the 6. page it is thus penned viz. If it had not beene thought otherwise fit by the States we should never have denied the Bishops a place in the Lords House in Parliament And though their Votes in Parliament be gone which for the manner of carriage in taking them away if all be true that we heare was not so well as we could have wished for the Honour of that great Court Answer What an abominable lye stands the Author guilty of for he saith the City of London could have wished the Bishopps might have still enjoyed their places in the Lords House when as the City Petition against them and Popish Lords is yet extant the King himselfe would no way justifie the Author in that particular though he hath not stood to accuse them all or some of them with Bribes o● in indirect dealing for He Himselfe did passe the Bill for taking away their Votes so that now t is become an Act or Law And let any knowing man judge how ignorant and immodest the Author is in speaking against that which is enacted it being contrary to the Order of the House to speake then besides the reasons were fully debated by both sides and in both the Houses and yet the Author hath shewed himselfe guilty of so little discretion as to tax both the King the Lords and the Commons for doing that and shewes not wherein they erred in doing it Onely he makes a hearsay ground for exceptions against the Superiour and highest Court that this world hath given us leave to appeale to Complaint The Author goes forward and in his 6. page saith in the name of the two Cities That our losses were not small if the losse of Property Liberty Life or Religion bee great Answer 'T is certaine the losse will be great if ever it happen but the two Cities are in a faire way thanks be to GOD and a good Parliament to keepe them Alas the danger of losing these is on tother sides prevailing for can any man be so mad as to suppose that this Parliament will give away that Liberty which some of these very Parliament Men have long since sweate for or at least their Ancestors with no little care procured why should we suppose that they are growne weary of their Estates or if they were have they not Children to ease them of that burthen or is it likely that they would envy they Children so much as to abridge them of the liberty they themselves have hitherto enjoyed as if they had surffeited and would free their Posterity from the like disease Complaint In the seventh Page of that Pamphlet it is thus penn'd viz. This Parliament to our thinking was called seasonably for our relief and the unhappy differences arisen in Scotland almost miraculously quieted and our Brethren of that Nation returned home peaceably but we must not forget that it cost us 300000. pounds which we could wish had bin spared Answer 'T is true that the calling of this Parliament was seasonable and so was the Act for not dissolving it but for the King to violate his own Act and dissolve this Parliament by force as is intended by his army were altogether untimely and though we are now in a greater distraction then ever yet the Parliament cannot be blamed by those of judgement for before thjngs were carryed according to the desire of those that caused them who being in authority did force an obedience from inferiour subjects none daring to oppose them till now this Parliament now the Parliament cannot so easily relieve us and correct those