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A39304 The foundation of tythes shaken and the four principal posts (of divine institution, primitive practice, voluntary donations, & positive laws) on which the nameless author of the book, called, The right of tythes asserted and proved, hath set his pretended right to tythes, removed, in a reply to the said book / by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1678 (1678) Wing E622; ESTC R20505 321,752 532

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evil_n of_o those_o thing_n that_o as_o fox_n observe_v they_o stand_v earnest_o in_o defence_n of_o the_o aforesaid_a ceremony_n say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o small_a matter_n that_o the_o fault_n be_v in_o the_o abuse_n of_o the_o thing_n not_o in_o the_o thing_n themselves_o that_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v so_o stubborn_a in_o so_o light_a a_o matter_n and_o that_o his_o wilfulness_n therein_o be_v not_o to_o be_v suffer_v nor_o will_v they_o yield_v to_o his_o consecration_n but_o upon_o condition_n that_o sometime_o he_o shall_v in_o his_o sermon_n show_v himself_o apparel_v as_o the_o other_o bishop_n be_v which_o fox_n in_o plain_a term_n call_v a_o popish_a attire_n and_o say_v that_o notwithstanding_o that_o godly_a reformation_n of_o religion_n that_o begin_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n beside_o other_o ceremony_n more_o ambitious_a than_o profitable_a or_o tend_v to_o edification_n they_o use_v to_o wear_v such_o garment_n and_o apparel_n as_o the_o popish_a bishop_n be_v wont_a to_o do_v which_o he_o say_v tend_v more_o to_o superstition_n then_o otherwise_o and_o say_v he_o when_o hooper_n be_v appoint_v to_o preach_v before_o the_o king_n he_o come_v forth_o as_o a_o new_a playe●_n in_o a_o strange_a apparel_n on_o the_o stage_n have_v for_o his_o upper_a garment_n a_o long_a scarlet_a chymere_n down_o to_o the_o foot_n and_o under_o that_o a_o white_a linen_n rochet_n that_o cover_v all_o his_o shoulder_n upon_o his_o head_n he_o have_v a_o geometrial_a that_o be_v a_o foursquared_a cap_n albeit_o that_o his_o head_n be_v round_o what_o cause_n of_o shame_n say_v fox_n the_o strangeness_n hereof_o be_v that_o day_n to_o that_o good_a preacher_n every_o man_n may_v easy_o judge_v martyr_n vol._n 2._o pag._n 1366._o thus_o see_v thou_o reader_n that_o what_o
who_o person_n as_o the_o latter_a priest_n say_v the_o master_n of_o the_o vineyard_n speak_v may_v do_v what_o he_o will_v with_o his_o own_o to_o who_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o do_v amiss_o may_v every_o one_o therefore_o challenge_v to_o himself_o the_o same_o liberty_n and_o power_n that_o be_v not_o to_o make_v me●_n servant_n and_o steward_n to_o the_o great_a housholder_n but_o lord_n and_o master_n but_o a●_n to_o the_o case_n of_o tithe_n i_o have_v prove_v that_o ethelwolf_n in_o the_o settlement_n of_o tithe_n do_v that_o with_o his_o own_o which_o be_v evil_a in_o uphol_v a_o false_a religion_n which_o it_o more_o concern_v the_o priest_n to_o clear_v he_o from_o then_o thus_o without_o cause_n to_o cavil_v §_o 5._o in_o my_o answer_n to_o the_o friendly_a conference_n i_o say_v pag._n 323._o suppose_v that_o ethelwolf_n have_v a_o ample_a power_n of_o dispose_v what_o he_o please_v or_o that_o the_o people_n have_v by_o consent_n join_v with_o he_o in_o the_o donation_n every_o man_n according_a to_o the_o interest_n he_o have_v yet_o neither_o can_v he_o single_a nor_o he_o and_o they_o conjoin_v grant_v any_o more_o than_o belong_v to_o themselves_o this_o be_v too_o plain_a to_o be_v deny_v be_v ground_v on_o a_o firm_a maxim_n nemo_fw-la plus_fw-la juris_fw-la ad_fw-la alium_fw-la transfer_v potest_fw-la quam_fw-la ipse_fw-la haberet_fw-la i._n e._n no_o man_n can_v transfer_v more_o right_o to_o another_o than_o he_o himself_o have_v therefore_o they_o seek_v way_n to_o evade_v it_o the_o author_n of_o the_o conference_n say_v suppose_v i_o grant_v it_o wh●●_n then_o his_o parishioner_n answer_v in_o my_o name_n to_o make_v ●_o grant_v of_o the_o ten_o part_n forever_o be_v in_o his_o understanding_n utter_o 〈◊〉_d to_o reason_n the_o priest_n replie●_n be_v it_o reasonable_a whole_o to_o pass_v a_o estate_n from_o the●_n and_o their_o heir_n forever_o and_o yet_o repugnant_a to_o 〈…〉_z grant_v but_o a_o part_n of_o that_o estate_n forever_o by_o this_o i_o perceive_v he_o have_v teach_v his_o parishioner_n to_o use_v as_o little_a honesty_n as_o himself_o the_o parishioner_n have_v learn_v of_o the_o priest_n to_o chap_v and_o mangle_v sentence_n and_o cunning_o leave_v out_o what_o he_o like_v not_o he_o make_v i_o here_o say_v to_o make_v a_o grant_n of_o the_o ten_o 〈◊〉_d forever_o be_v in_o my_o understanding_n utter_o repugnant_a to_o reason_n this_o go_v clear_a with_o the_o priest_n as_o if_o i_o have_v say_v it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o reason_n to_o grant_v the_o ten_o part_n of_o a_o estate_n forever_o and_o according_o he_o argue●_n whereas_o i_o say_v plain_o they_o may_v have_v dispose_v of_o what_o part_n of_o the_o land_n they_o please_v they_o may_v have_v give_v the_o ten_o part_n of_o the_o land_n the_o ten_o acre_n etc._n etc._n but_o that_o which_o i_o say_v be_v to_o my_o understanding_n repugnant_a to_o reason_n justice_n and_o equity_n be_v for_o the●_n to_o make_v a_o grant_n of_o the_o ten_o part_n of_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o land_n forever_o these_o word_n of_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o land_n he_o leave_v out_o in_o recite_v my_o word_n thereby_o draw_v it_o from_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o land_n to_o the_o land_n itself_o which_o alter_v the_o case_n for_o as_o i_o show_v the_o profit_n of_o the_o land_n forever_o can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o belong_v to_o they_o because_o it_o depend_v on_o the_o stock_n labour_n etc._n etc._n of_o another_o which_o they_o have_v no_o interest_n in_o no●_n right_a unto_o but_o if_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o land_n forever_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o they_o and_o they_o have_v no_o power_n to_o grant_v any_o more_o than_o do_v belong_v to_o themselves_o it_o follow_v that_o they_o have_v no_o power_n to_o grant_v the_o tithe_n of_o the_o profit_n of_o the_o land_n forever_o they_o endeavour_v to_o weaken_v the_o force_n of_o this_o argument_n by_o compare_v tithe_n with_o a_o rent-charge_n urge_v that_o the_o owner_n may_v as_o well_o make_v a_o grant_n of_o tithe_n forever_o as_o set_v a_o rent-charge_n upon_o their_o land_n forever_o this_o the_o author_n of_o the_o of_o tytth_n rhgy_n talk_v much_o of_o and_o fill_v many_o page_n 〈◊〉_d in_o sect._n 30._o and_o 38._o shift_v the_o same_o matter_n into_o divers_a dress_n by_o variety_n of_o expression_n to_o make_v the_o fair_a show_n and_o great_a appearance_n of_o say_v something_o but_o he_o that_o shall_v impartial_o consider_v the_o nature_n of_o each_o will_v find_v a_o vast_a difference_n between_o a_o rent-charge_n and_o tithe_n for_o a_o rent-charge_n be_v pay_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o land_n on_o which_o it_o be_v charge_v which_o it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v ●e_n that_o charge_v it_o have_v at_o that_o time_n ●_o property_n in_o but_o tithe_n be_v not_o pay_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o land_n but_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o stock_n and_o labour_n etc._n etc._n employ_v thereon_o by_o he_o that_o occupy_v it_o which_o appear_v by_o this_o that_o they_o who_o have_v no_o land_n be_v as_o well_o charge_v with_o the_o payment_n of_o tithe_n out_o of_o the_o improvement_n or_o increase_n of_o their_o stock_n and_o labour_n in_o their_o trade_n and_o manual_a occupation_n as_o they_o be_v who_o occupy_v land_n so_o that_o tithe_n lie_v proper_o on_o the_o stock_n not_o on_o the_o land_n but_o a_o rent-charge_n lie_v proper_o on_o the_o land_n not_o on_o the_o stock_n and_o therefore_o although_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o increase_n at_o all_o no_o profit_n make_v no_o crop_n plant_v nor_o any_o thing_n renew_v upon_o the_o land_n yet_o the_o rent-charge_n must_v be_v pay_v because_o it_o be_v charge_v in_o consideration_n of_o the_o land_n itself_o but_o it_o be_v not_o so_o in_o the_o case_n of_o tithe_n if_o there_o be_v no_o increase_n no_o profit_n make_v no_o crop_n plant_v nor_o any_o thing_n renew_v upon_o the_o land_n no_o tithe_n can_v be_v demand_v because_o tithe_n be_v charge_v in_o consideration_n of_o the_o increase_n and_o improvement_n make_v of_o the_o stock_n and_o for_o the_o nonpayment_n of_o a_o rent-charge_n he_o on_o who_o it_o be_v settle_v may_v enter_v upon_o and_o possess_v the_o land_n which_o be_v charge_v with_o the_o payment_n of_o it_o but_o in_o the_o case_n of_o tithe_n it_o be_v otherwise_o for_o nonpayment_n of_o tithe_n he_o who_o claim_v they_o can_v enter_v upon_o or_o possess_v the_o land_n but_o be_v make_v whole_a out_o of_o the_o stock_n of_o the_o occupier_n all_o which_o demonstrate_v that_o it_o be_v the_o stock_n not_o the_o land_n of_o which_o the_o tithe_n be_v pay_v if_o a_o tradesman_n hold_v a_o ●arm_n as_o many_o d●_n and_o divide_v his_o 〈◊〉_d he_o 〈◊〉_d one_o part_n of_o it_o in_o his_o farm_n ●nd_v the_o other_o in_o hi●_n trade_n he_o be_v liable_a to_o the_o payment_n of_o tithe_n out_o o●_n each_o but_o if_o he_o shall_v draw_v his_o stock_n out_o of_o 〈◊〉_d farm_n and_o employ_v it_o all_o in_o his_o trade_n let_v his_o farm_n lie_v unstock_v and_o so_o receive_v no_o profit_n from_o it_o he_o will_v not_o be_v chargeable_a with_o tithe_n for_o his_o farm_n but_o only_o for_o the_o improvement_n of_o his_o stock_n 〈◊〉_d his_o trade_n yet_o if_o there_o be_v a_o rent-charge_n upon_o 〈◊〉_d farm_n he_o be_v chargeable_a with_o that_o nevertheless_o and_o liable_a to_o pay_v it_o whether_o he_o employ_v his_o farm_n or_o not_o whence_o it_o be_v still_o more_o evident_a that_o a_o rent-charge_n be_v a_o charge_n upon_o the_o land_n ●ot_n upon_o the_o stock_n and_o tithe_n be_v a_o charge_n upon_o the_o stock_n not_o upon_o the_o land_n though_o our_o ancestor_n have_v power_n to_o lay_v a_o rent-charge_n upon_o their_o own_o land_n in_o which_o they_o have_v a_o property_n yet_o they_o can_v not_o have_v power_n to_o grant_v tithe_n out_o of_o other_o man_n stock_n in_o which_o they_o have_v no_o property_n now_o since_o tithe_n be_v not_o the_o ten_o part_n of_o the_o land_n but_o the_o ten_o part_n of_o the_o increase_n of_o the_o stock_n howsoever_o employ_v whether_o upon_o land_n or_o otherwise_o and_o see_v the_o labour_n care_n skill_n industry_n and_o diligence_n of_o the_o occupant_a whether_o husband_n man_n or_o trades-man_n be_v involve_v and_o necessary_o include_v in_o the_o stock_n as_o instrumental_a mean_n and_o cause_n of_o produce_v the_o increase_n a_o perpetual_a grant_n of_o tithe_n imply_v a_o grant_n not_o only_o of_o other_o man_n stock_n in_o which_o the_o granter_n have_v no_o property_n but_o of_o other_o man_n labour_n care_n skill_n diligence_n and_o industry_n also_o long_o before_o they_o be_v beget_v upon_o which_o supposition_n all_o man_n but_o priest_n since_o ethelwolf_n time_n 〈◊〉_d be_v bear_v slave_n under_o a_o obligation_n to_o employ_v