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A14254	The sacke of Roome exsequuted by the Emperour Charles armie euen at the natiuitie of this Spanish Kinge Philip. Notablie described in a Spanish dialogue, with all the horrible accidents of this sacke, and abhominable sinnes, superstitions & diseases of that cittie, which prouoked these iust iudgements of God. Translated latelie into the English tounge, neuer fitter to bee read nor deeplier considered, then euen now at this present time.; Diálogo en que particularmente se tratan las cosas acaecidas en Roma el año de M.D.XXVII. English	Valdés, Alfonso de, d. 1532.	1590 (1590)	STC 24569; ESTC S101792	58,810	80

wil not passe by without speaking whosoeuer he bee Tell me Gentleman are you a brother to the Archdeacon of Viso Arch. What Segnior Lattantio haue you so soone forgotten mee it appeares Fortune quickly chaungeth mens knowledge Latt What say you now I see you are the Archdeacon himselfe indeede Arch. Yea sir to do you seruice Latt Who could know you comming as now you do you were woont to weare your garmentes one longer then another trailing on the ground your cappe after the Ecclesiasticall maner your seruants and reuerend Mule but now I see you on foot alone a short cote with a thred bare Frisado cape a great sword and a Souldiers hat besides all this a long beard and your haire and head without any signe of Crowne who could haue knowen you Arch. Who sir Euen he that knowes the habit by the man and not the man by the habit Latt Well if the memorie haue erred it is no reason good-will should paie for that fault which in me hath verie seldom diminished But tell mee as God helpe you sir how comes this chaunge Arch. What haue you not heard what hath happened at Rome lately Latt Yes I haue heard some thing but what concernes the busines of Rome the chaunge of your garmentes Arch. Seeing you aske that question it appeares you know not al for then you should haue knowen that ther is not in Rome a man that dare passe the streets in habit of an Ecclesiastical person Latt What tell you mee Arch. I tell you that when I came from Rome the persequution against the Clergie was so great that there was not a man that durst walke the streetes in habit of a Clarke or a Frier Latt O merueilous God how incomprehensible are thy Iudgements But sir I pray you were you within Rome at that time when the Emperours armie entred Arch. Yea for my sinnes I was found or rather lost there for of all that euer I had I haue nothing left but that you see Latt Wherfore did you not commit your selfe to the Spanish souldiours and thereby haue saued your goods Arch. My sinnes daunted my wittes and my vnhappie lot was to fall among the Almans where I thought it no little gaine to escape with life out of their handes Latt Is all true wee heare from thence and that men report here Arch. I know not what you heare nor what you say of it but I can assure you it was the most terrible thing that euer man saw I know not how you take it here it seemes to mee you make no great accompt of it But on my soule I know not whether God will so dissemble it and if wee were in some other place where it were lawfull for me to speake I would vtter foule and terrible matters with this mouth Latt Against whom Arch. Against him that hath done more mischiefe against the Church of God then euer Turke or Pagan durst haue done Latt But soft sir Archdeacon it may be that you are deceaued and lay the fault wher it is not between vs any thing may passe tell me therefore franckly your minde and I will so endeuour to open vnto you your error that you shall not blame him that is not blame worthie Arch. I am content to open plainly vnto you my mind in this matter but not here in the Market place let vs goe into this Church of S. Frauncis and there we wil discourse at our leisure Latt Agreed let it be so Arch. Now that we are where we may talke and none heare vs I pray you sir whatsoeuer passeth betweene vs let no other man be priuie of it for Princes are Princes and no wisedome for men to put themselues in perill where they neede not Latt Hereof you may be well assured Arch. Let vs then see Signior Lattantio doth it seeme vnto you a matter tollerable that the Emperour hath done in Rome that which neuer Infidels had done and that for his perticuler passion and to reuenge himselfe of I wat not what hath in such sort sought to distroy the Sea Apostolique with the greatest Ignominie and with greater Contempt and greater crueltie than euer was heard or seene I know that the Gothes tooke Rome but yet they medled not with the Church of S. Peeter they medled not with the Reliques of the Sainctes they medled not with the sacred and holie thinges But whereas those halfe Christians had this respect now our Christians albeit I know not whether they bee worthie of that name they haue not forborne Churches they haue not forborne Monasteries they haue not forborne the sacred thinges they haue violated all they haue robbed all they haue profaned all that I wonder the earth hath not opened and swallowed them vp those also that sent them or consented vnto it What thinke yee now will the Turkes the Moores the Iewes and the Lutherans say seeing the head of the Church thus handled O God that suffrest such a thing Oh God that consentest to so great a wickednes Was this the defence that the Apostolike Sea hoped from hir defendor was this the honor that Spaine hoped for of hir so mightie king was this the glorie was this the good was this the Amplification and enlargement that all Christendome hoped was it for this that his great Graundfathers got the title of Catholicke For this cause did they ioyne so many Kingdomes and Seignories vnto the rule of one Lord for this was hee elected Emperour for this did the Bishop of Rome helpe him to thrust out the French out of Italie To the end that in one day he should destroy al that their predecessors with so great trauels and in such a multitude of years had founded So many and such goodly churches such Monasteries such Hospitals and Chappels where God was woont to bee serued and honoured to be now defaced and profaned So manie Altars yea euen in the Church of the Prince of the Apostles embrued with bloud so many Reliques robbed and with sacrilegious handes profaned For this cause did their predecessors adioine so great holinesse to this cittie For this did they honor the Church with such and so many reliques For this did they bestow on them so many ritch ornamentes of Gold and Siluer that in the end hee should come without remorse to rob deface and destroy al Oh Soueraigne God is it possible that so great a crueltie so great an outrage so abhominable boldnes so horrible an accident and so execrable a wickednesse can passe without some most rigorous most grieuous and most notorious punishment I know not what feeling you haue here of it or if you haue any I merueile how ye can let it passe or dissemble it Latt I heare attentiuely all that you haue said and in truth albeit I heare the like vttered of that matter by manie yet mee thinkes you make it more foule and blame it more then any other and in all that you haue spoken it seems to me you are very

of Rome to be destroied the which bee it good or bee it bad in conclusion it is the head of Christendome he ought to haue had an other manner of regarde therevnto Latt I haue already plainely shewed you that this was not doone neither by the commaundement nor by the will of the Emperour and further that your selues began to make the warre when there was a truce and notwithstanding the Emperour ratified the peace so soone as it was presented Arch. But why should he keepe in Italie such wicked people as like rauenous Woolues should come to destroie that holye Cittie Latt If you your selues would haue bin contented to haue liued in peace not haue made war vpon the Emperor when he did nothing against you there had beene indeed no cause why he should haue mainteined or sent any such people into Italie would you haue it lawfull for your selues to make warres vpon vs and not lawfull for vs to defend our selues This were in deed a gentle manner of liuing Arch. Well let it be lawfull for you in Gods name but yet not with Infidels and Heretikes Latt Surely you speake very badlie heerein for as concerning the Almanes you cannot be certaine that they are Lutherans neither is it likely or credible considering they were sent by King Ferdinando his brother that dooth persequute the Lutherans But you your selfe haue receiued into your Armie Lutherans that were fled out of Almany and with them haue you made warres vpon the Emperour And as concerning the Spaniards and Italians which you call Infidels if your meaning be to call wicked liuing Infidilitie Who are then more Infidels then your selues for where may a man finde more vices yea or so many or so publique or so free of punishment as in your court of Rome or who euer committed so great and abhominable cruelties as that Armie of the Pope in the territories of the Colonesi if those of the Emperors bee Infidels for liuing so ill why are not those of yours Infidels that are much worse If it be lawfull for you to make warres with people that you your selues repute Infidels why shall it not be lawful for vs to defend our selues with a people that we take not to be Infidels what a mockerie is this That which you doe against the Emperour you do it not against him but against his Armie but that the Armie dooth against you is not doone by the Armie but by the Emperour Arch. Well let vs say the Army did it without commaundement without consent and against the will of the Emperour And that his Maiestie was in no faulte let vs then see when it was doone whye hath hee not punished the offendours and ill dooers Latt Because he knoweth it to be a thing rather diuine then humane And because he is accustomed rather to do good for ill then ill for good And a gentill toye it were for him to chastice and punishe those that venter their liues for him and in his seruice Arch. Well then seeing ye will not chastice and punish them yet why would ye be any longer serued with such a people as had committed so horrible and abhominable outrage Latt For two respects first to auoid the mischiefe they would haue done being disbanded or cashed and also to resist the flames that your selues had kindled For a mockerie had it beene at that time when the French were marching into Italie for the Emperour to cash or dissolue his Armie Arch. I cannot well tell what to replie and surely in this you haue verie fullie perfourmed your promise and in this I must confesse I was much abused But now I would desire you to open vnto mee the causes why God hath permitted the euilles which haue bin done in Rome seeing you say it hath bene for the great good of Christendome Latt Seeing in the first you rest satisfyed I doubt not by Gods helpe but to leaue you much better contented in the second but seeing it now late wee will leaue that part for after dinner because I meane now to deteine you for my guest Arch. It shal bee sir as you commaund for hether we may afterwardes returne againe The second part Lattantio TO accomplish now that which I haue promised you hauing alreadie halfe done in performing the first part ye wil not denie me that all the vices al the deceipts that the mallice of Man was able to inuent was not conioined togither in that Cittie which with great reason ye name the holie Citie because it ought so to be Arch. Surely therin you haue great reason and God knoweth what I alwaies thought of that matter and what I felt at hart to see that Citie which in reason ought to be euen the patterne of vertues to all the world to be so full of vices chafferie deceipt and manifest villeinies Such sale made of Offices Benefices Buls Indulgences and Dispensations so shameleslie that in verie trueth it seemed a verie mockerie of the Christian Faith and that the Ministers of the Church tooke no other care but only to inuent means to scrape money The Pope pawned certaine Apostles that he had of Gold and afterwards made an imposition to be leuied by Buls pro redemptione Apostolorum It is straunge they were not ashamed to commit thinges so foule and preiudiciall to their owne dignitie Latt The very same say all they that come thence and the same did I my selfe know when I was there But come you hether If your Sonnes Arch. Ah sir speake courteouslie Latt Pardon mee I remembred not you were a Clarke albeit yee haue manie Clarkes that take no shame to haue Children but this speech I onely vse for an example Arch. Well then speake on Latt If your Sonnes should happen to haue a verie vicious and bad Scholemaister and that you did perceaue that by his vicious and bad manners hee did infect them what would you do Arch. I would manie times admonish him that he should amend but if he would not do it I would vse my aucthoritie ouer him and chastice him gently that for feare of ill he should amend if he would not for the loue of good Latt Then behold heere God is Father to vs all and hath deliuered vs vnto the Pope as vnto our Scholemaister to the end wee should learne of him and of those that are about him to liue like Christians But seeing the vices of that court of Rome were such and so great that they infected these Children of God that wee did not onely not learn of them the doctrine of Christ but rather a manner of life most contrarie God seeing that neither the Prophets the Euangelistes nor such a number of learned Doctors as haue written in times past reprouing vices and praising vertues could moue them that liued wickedly to amend and liue like Christians he sought out new means to draw them to do their duties And besides manie other verie good Maisters and Preachers sent vs in times past hee