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last_o part_n of_o my_o catholic_n theology_n and_o what_o censure_v i_o have_v suffer_v for_o it_o which_o never_o move_v i_o to_o comply_v with_o the_o censurer_n i_o think_v prove_v it_o i_o again_o and_o again_o profess_v that_o if_o the_o papist_n or_o such_o as_o i_o now_o deal_v with_o will_v but_o prove_v that_o god_n ever_o make_v or_o allow_v such_o a_o church_n as_o they_o plead_v for_o in_o the_o world_n that_o be_v a_o universal_a church_n constitute_v or_o unify_v by_o any_o one_o head_n or_o supreme_a govern_v pâ—râ—_n monarchical_a or_o aristocratical_a under_o christ_n the_o dispute_n whether_o it_o be_v pope_n or_o council_n or_o cardinal_n or_o college_n of_o bishop_n in_o all_o the_o world_n shall_v not_o hinder_v i_o from_o a_o cheerful_a and_o joyful_a declare_v myself_o a_o papist_n without_o partiality_n fear_n or_o shame_n in_o the_o sense_n that_o the_o word_n papist_n have_v still_o signify_v with_o such_o as_o i_o converse_v with_o these_o thing_n i_o have_v take_v the_o boldness_n to_o ask_v some_o of_o the_o great_a that_o on_o the_o fore_n mention_v term_n appropriate_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o their_o sect_n or_o party_n and_o i_o can_v get_v no_o answer_n from_o they_o viz._n whether_o they_o take_v the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basil_n for_o papist_n and_o whether_o they_o now_o take_v the_o bishop_n and_o church_n of_o france_n for_o papist_n and_o whether_o they_o take_v gerson_n cusanus_fw-la cassander_n erasmus_n for_o papist_n or_o not_o 2._o if_o yea_o what_o be_v the_o difference_n between_o the_o say_a papist_n church-form_n and_o government_n and_o that_o which_o these_o call_v the_o church_n catholic_n and_o dispute_v for_o 3._o if_o not_o then_o be_v not_o the_o controversy_n de_fw-fr nomine_fw-la whether_o the_o french_a bishop_n and_o church_n and_o the_o say_a council_n be_v of_o the_o same_o form_n and_o religion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o call_v by_o these_o man_n ought_v to_o be_v call_v papist_n or_o not_o and_o for_o that_o i_o shall_v strive_v with_o none_o let_v every_o man_n call_v they_o as_o he_o see_v cause_n or_o if_o he_o will_v as_o they_o will_v call_v themselves_o let_v they_o be_v papist_n in_o france_n and_o protestant_n in_o england_n i_o contend_v not_o for_o name_n but_o i_o wonder_v not_o at_o these_o churchman_n if_o they_o unchurch_n the_o french_a protestant_n and_o condemn_v their_o ministry_n and_o sacrament_n as_o none_o how_o else_o can_v their_o persecution_n be_v justify_v and_o o_o that_o they_o will_v tell_v we_o what_o church_n they_o be_v that_o they_o live_v in_o communion_n with_o whether_o the_o french_a spanish_a italian_a greek_n nestorian_n jacobite_n copty_v abassine_n be_v in_o their_o communion_n or_o not_o if_o yea_o whether_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v not_o as_o worthy_a of_o their_o communion_n if_o not_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v all_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o their_o account_n o_o that_o we_o can_v long_o more_o for_o god_n righteous_a final_a judgement_n to_o which_o we_o appeal_v though_o mr._n dodwell_n be_v against_o it_o and_o for_o the_o world_n of_o perfect_a light_n and_o love_n and_o union_n dated_n septemb_n 2._o 1681._o appoint_v a_o public_a fast_o for_o the_o burn_a of_o london_n i_o have_v not_o time_n to_o gather_v the_o errata_fw-la of_o the_o press_n i_o cast_v my_o eye_n on_o these_o pag._n 9_o l._n 19_o for_o nature_n r._n name_n p._n 10._o l._n antep_n deal_n and._n p._n 11._o l._n antep_n r._n be_v in_o p._n 17._o l._n 1._o for_o or_o r._n over_o p._n 5._o l._n 29._o after_o excommunicate_v r._n christ_n servant_n for_o not_o forsake_v their_o faithful_a pastor_n p._n 10._o l._n ult_n for_o of_o r._n by_o p._n 16._o l._n 32._o for_o our_o r._n one_o p._n 90._o l._n 12_o r._n temerity_n p._n 139._o l._n 17._o for_o by_o r._n to_o pag._n 151._o l._n 4._o for_o by_o r._n my_o etc._n etc._n the_o content_n a_o late_a letter_n of_o mr._n dodwell_n with_o the_o answer_n write_v since_o the_o rest_n be_v print_v chap._n 1._o of_o mr._n dodwell_n displeasure_n against_o i_o as_o if_o i_o accuse_v he_o to_o be_v a_o papist_n and_o wrong_v the_o council_n of_o bishop_n p._n 1._o chap._n 2._o his_o schismatical_a church-destroying_a scheme_n the_o sum_n of_o his_o great_a schismatical_a book_n confute_v p._n 7_o chap._n 3._o the_o consequent_n of_o mr._n dodwell_n foresay_a doctrine_n p._n 21_o chap._n 4._o my_o word_n of_o god_n collation_n of_o ministerial_a authority_n vindicate_v from_o the_o forgery_n and_o fallacy_n of_o mr._n dodwell_n p._n 27_o what_o my_o assertion_n be_v of_o the_o cause_n of_o church_n power_n p._n 29._o the_o contrary_a p._n 32._o the_o truth_n prove_v p_o 33_o etc._n etc._n his_o objection_n answer_v p._n 36._o etc._n etc._n bishop_n be_v of_o god_n p._n 46._o etc._n etc._n his_o sad_a qualification_n of_o minister_n p._n 48._o prefer_v god_n be_v no_o wrong_n to_o government_n p._n 54._o what_o succession_n we_o have_v p._n 54._o of_o aidan_n and_o finans_n episcopacy_n p._n 57_o his_o assertion_n of_o supreme_a church-power_n from_o who_o there_o be_v no_o appeal_n to_o scripture_n to_o god_n or_o the_o life_n to_o come_v and_o who_o intention_n be_v the_o measure_n of_o the_o power_n of_o all_o ordain_v by_o they_o examine_v p._n 57_o etc._n etc._n whether_o the_o church_n on_o earth_n be_v one_o visible_a society_n under_o one_o visible_a humane_a government_n p._n 59_o whether_o divine_a authority_n may_v not_o be_v pretend_v for_o practise_v contrary_a to_o some_o superior_n p._n 60_o chap._n 5._o wherein_o mr_n dodwell_n deceit_n and_o their_o danger_n lie_v p._n 63._o whether_o there_o be_v but_o one_o sense_n of_o all_o term_n which_o cause_v oblige_v man_n to_o mean_v all_o that_o have_v skill_n in_o cause_n be_v to_o understand_v p._n 63._o twelve_o great_a doctrinal_a article_n in_o which_o we_o differ_v from_o mr._n dodwell_n p._n 65._o some_o question_n put_v to_o he_o p._n 68_o his_o second_o letter_n to_o i_o from_o ireland_n p._n 70._o my_o answer_n to_o it_o p._n 75._o prove_v the_o impossibtlity_n of_o just_a discipline_n in_o the_o diocesan_n way_n which_o i_o dissent_v from_o the_o short_a answer_n to_o mr._n dodwell_n long_a letter_n which_o dr_n sherlock_n and_o mr._n morrice_n extol_v which_o be_v full_o answer_v in_o my_o treatise_n of_o episcopacy_n p._n 90._o a_o letter_n send_v to_o mr._n dodwell_n mar._n 12_o 1681._o a_o letter_n to_o mr._n dodwell_n nou._n 15._o 1680._o another_o to_o he_o of_o july_n 9_o 1677._o open_v many_o of_o our_o chief_a difference_n p._n 100_o another_o after_o a_o personal_a conference_n send_v to_o he_o but_o return_v because_o he_o be_v go_v into_o the_o country_n debate_v with_o he_o eleven_o of_o our_o great_a difference_n in_o which_o mr._n dodwell_n may_v be_v know_v p._n 118._o a_o account_n of_o my_o dissent_n from_o dr._n sherlock_n his_o doctrine_n accusation_n and_o argumentation_n special_o about_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o universal_a a_o national_a and_o single_a church_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o schism_n etc._n etc._n chap._n 1._o the_o historical_a proem_n chap._n 2._o my_o â—etter_n and_o counsel_n to_o mr._n sherlock_n many_o year_n ago_o advise_v he_o to_o expound_v or_o retract_v his_o word_n which_o seem_v to_o deny_v the_o three_o article_n of_o our_o baptismal_a covenant_n our_o belief_n in_o god_n the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n p._n 162_o his_o answer_n p._n 173_o chap._n 3._o of_o the_o ill_a manner_n of_o these_o man_n confutation_n p._n 174_o chap._n 4._o the_o main_a part_n of_o our_o difference_n viz._n what_o be_v the_o essential_a form_n of_o the_o catholic_n national_a and_o single_a church_n p._n 182_o chap._n 5._o what_o be_v the_o
judger_n of_o the_o personal_a qualification_n and_o that_o ordinis_fw-la gratia_fw-la ordinary_o their_o approbation_n choice_n or_o consent_n shall_v be_v a_o relative_a part_n of_o their_o receptive_a qualification_n 6._o god_n himself_o give_v all_o the_o personal_a qualification_n 7_o he_o be_v ready_a to_o help_v the_o approver_n and_o chooser_n to_o discern_v all_o these_o and_o to_o judge_v aright_o of_o they_o 8._o the_o person_n be_v thus_o make_v a_o capable_a recipient_a by_o personal_a qualification_n and_o relative_a due_a approbation_n election_n and_o consent_n god_n donation_n or_o law_n do_v give_v he_o right_o and_o oblige_v he_o to_o the_o office-work_n and_o the_o elector_n approver_n and_o consenter_n be_v none_o of_o the_o proper_a efficient_a donor_n or_o cause_n of_o this_o right_a and_o obligation_n but_o only_o efficient_a cause_n of_o his_o relative_a receptive_a capacity_n 9_o that_o therefore_o the_o right_n and_o obligation_n be_v immediate_o from_o god_n 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