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office_n and_o that_o so_o the_o english_a diocesan_n form_n do_v i_o have_v large_o prove_v in_o my_o treat_n of_o episcopacy_n which_o he_o do_v not_o answer_v sect._n 13._o 1._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v the_o low_a house_n in_o the_o convocation_n and_o so_o have_v their_o vote_n in_o pass_v all_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n article_n of_o doctrine_n and_o form_n of_o divine_a service_n ans_fw-fr 1._o according_a to_o his_o description_n the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v no_o one_o ecclesiastical_a government_n either_o monarchical_a or_o aristocratical_a or_o democratical_a and_o therefore_o the_o act_n of_o the_o convocation_n be_v no_o act_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o mere_a agreement_n therefore_o this_o prove_v not_o the_o presbyter_n power_n of_o govern_v it_o 2._o if_o this_o be_v a_o part_n of_o government_n it_o be_v the_o legislative_a part_n or_o the_o executive_a the_o late_a it_o be_v not_o the_o former_a the_o lawyer_n say_v it_o be_v not_o king_n and_o parliament_n only_o be_v legislator_n but_o if_o this_o be_v legislation_n we_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v any_o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n in_o question_n which_o be_v but_o to_o judge_v who_o be_v fit_a or_o unfit_a for_o church-communion_n to_o admonish_v absolve_v or_o excommunicate_v according_a to_o christ_n law_n and_o be_v the_o execution_n of_o christ_n law_n and_o not_o the_o make_n of_o new_a law_n 3._o it_o be_v lie_fw-la sub_fw-la judice_fw-la whether_o the_o thing_n here_o name_v be_v any_o part_n of_o true_a lawful_a church-government_n rule_n of_o discipline_n christ_n have_v make_v enough_o except_o about_o mere_a mutable_a accident_n article_n of_o doctrine_n man_n must_v not_o otherwise_o make_v than_o to_o declare_v what_o he_o believe_v christ_n have_v make_v form_n of_o divine_a service_n command_v to_o all_o other_o the_o apostle_n never_o make_v nor_o that_o we_o find_v appoint_v any_o other_o to_o make_v they_o if_o these_o be_v lawful_a by_o way_n of_o agreement_n of_o many_o church_n this_o be_v none_o of_o the_o power_n we_o speak_v of_o yet_o he_o call_v this_o one_o of_o the_o great_a right_n of_o government_n viz._n make_v rule_n for_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o he_o deny_v to_o have_v any_o constitutive_a government_n sect._n 14._o he_o say_v in_o this_o main_a part_n of_o government_n our_o church_n fall_v behind_o none_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n only_a there_o they_o be_v take_v single_o in_o every_o city_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr that_o be_v 1._o when_o the_o minister_n of_o a_o diocese_n choose_v four_o out_o of_o who_o the_o bishop_n take_v two_o and_o 2._o this_o only_a to_o make_v agreement_n without_o any_o govern_n power_n over_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 3._o and_o this_o only_a about_o general_a regulation_n 4._o in_o either_o unlawful_a or_o doubtful_a imposition_n on_o other_o about_o mere_a accident_n or_o circumstance_n of_o order_n this_o be_v the_o same_o or_o as_o good_a as_o when_o every_o true_a church_n have_v present_a pastor_n personal_o to_o exercise_v the_o executive_a church-government_n call_v the_o key_n by_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n already_o make_v in_o judge_v the_o case_n of_o each_o particular_a person_n as_o to_o his_o title_n to_o church-communion_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n for_o that_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o by_o we_o be_v plead_v for_o sect._n 15._o next_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o four_o that_o be_v to_o join_v in_o ordinatiom_n and_o examination_n when_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o the_o make_n or_o govern_v of_o pastor_n which_o i_o be_o speak_v of_o but_o the_o government_n of_o the_o flock_n 2._o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v no_o strange_a thing_n for_o our_o bishop_n to_o say_v that_o both_o in_o convocation_n and_o ordination_n the_o presbyter_n act_v only_o as_o the_o bishop_n council_n and_o the_o bishop_n only_a act_n by_o govern_v authority_n 3._o i_o never_o dispute_v for_o presbyter_n power_n to_o ordain_v as_o essential_a to_o they_o nor_o do_v i_o ever_o meddle_v in_o any_o ordination_n 4._o if_o four_o presbyter_n have_v such_o power_n that_o prove_v not_o that_o four_o hundred_o have_v it_o that_o never_o exercise_v it_o in_o the_o same_o diocese_n 5._o if_o by_o all_o this_o you_o mean_v that_o real_o presbyter_n have_v the_o govern_v power_n of_o the_o key_n it_o condemn_v those_o the_o more_o that_o give_v it_o to_o four_o and_o deny_v it_o to_o four_o hundred_o or_o one_o thousand_o 6._o when_o i_o be_v ordain_v none_o examine_v we_o but_o the_o bishop_n chaplain_n and_o two_o or_o three_o city_n minister_n call_v by_o the_o bishop_n that_o never_o see_v we_o before_o mere_o pro_fw-la formâ_fw-la lay_v hand_n on_o we_o with_o he_o but_o it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o give_v such_o a_o power_n to_o ordain_v sect._n 16._o next_o p._n 267._o he_o