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A46641 An apology for, or vindication of the oppressed persecuted ministers & professors of the Presbyterian Reformed Religion, in the Church of Scotland emitted in the defence of them, and the cause for which they suffer: & that for the information of ignorant, the satisfaction and establishment of the doubtful, the conviction (if possible) of the malicious, the warning of our rulers, the strengthening & comforting of the said sufferers under their present pressurs & trials. Being their testimony to the covenanted work of reformation in this church, and against the present prevailing corruptions and course of defection therefrom. Prestat sero, quàm nunquam sapere. Smith, Hugh.; Jamieson, Alexander. 1677 (1677) Wing J446; ESTC R31541 114,594 210

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neither_o it_o nor_o the_o practice_n occasion_v thereby_o can_v be_v any_o regulate_a precedent_n for_o we_o beside_o in_o all_o these_o contest_v about_o investitur_n betwixt_o the_o pope_n and_o prince_n the_o mission_n of_o minister_n be_v never_o question_v but_o always_o acknowledge_v as_o proper_a to_o the_o church_n and_o not_o to_o the_o magistrate_n which_o will_v be_v clear_a to_o any_o that_o will_v be_v at_o pain_n to_o read_v church_n history_n 3._o the_o send_n of_o minister_n to_o particular_a congregation_n be_v a_o act_n of_o government_n purly_a and_o formal_o ecclesiastical_a and_o not_o civil_a and_o therefore_o incompetent_a to_o the_o magistrate_n let_v any_o consider_v it_o in_o its_o cause_n mater_fw-la object_n and_o end_n and_o they_o shall_v find_v it_o so_o for_o the_o person_n send_v be_v minister_n the_o work_n they_o be_v send_v on_o be_v to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o dispense_v its_o ordinance_n these_o they_o be_v send_v to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n the_o end_n for_o which_o they_o be_v send_v to_o such_o be_v to_o gather_v in_o and_o perfect_a the_o body_n of_o christ_n this_o be_v finis_fw-la operis_fw-la we_o know_v of_o nothing_o that_o can_v besaid_a against_o this_o but_o that_o it_o be_v not_o pure_o ecclesiastic_a in_o the_o efficient_a cause_n ans_fw-fr to_o this_o we_o reply_v first_o that_o all_o use_n in_o moral_n to_o sustain_v the_o validity_n of_o the_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o act_n to_o the_o undueness_n of_o it_o to_o such_o and_o such_o cause_n for_o it_o be_v by_o the_o respect_n of_o such_o act_n in_o moral_n to_o their_o matter_n object_n and_o end_n that_o the_o bound_n be_v determine_v and_o set_v to_o they_o in_o their_o efficient_a cause_n for_o instance_n if_o the_o matter_n object_n &_o end_n of_o a_o act_n be_v proper_o civil_a it_o be_v grant_v by_o all_o to_o be_v undue_a or_o incompetent_a to_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n &_o so_o of_o other_o act_n in_o their_o moral_a specifical_a distinction_n by_o which_o in_o the_o law_n of_o god_n they_o be_v assign_v &_o make_v due_a to_o such_o and_o such_o efficient_n but_o next_o upon_o this_o reason_n it_o shall_v be_v as_o lawful_a for_o the_o magistrate_n to_o ordain_v and_o send_v person_n without_o ordination_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n which_o be_v every_o way_n absurd_a 4._o the_o send_n of_o minister_n to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o to_o oversee_v church_n be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o potestative_a mission_n one_o part_n of_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n grant_v by_o christ_n to_o his_o church_n and_o never_o to_o the_o magistrate_n from_o no_o part_n of_o the_o word_n can_v it_o be_v make_v appear_v that_o christ_n have_v give_v this_o power_n to_o the_o magistrate_n we_o find_v it_o give_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n matth._n 16_o 19_o with_o several_a other_o place_n of_o scripture_n but_o as_o to_o the_o magistrate_n there_o be_v altum_fw-la silentium_fw-la but_o that_o this_o send_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o act_n of_o potestative_a mission_n we_o hope_v will_v not_o ready_o be_v deny_v of_o any_o do_v we_o ask_v whether_o minister_n go_v to_o such_o congregation_n on_o a_o special_a delegation_n from_o christ_n more_o than_o to_o other_o if_o they_o do_v than_o it_o must_v flow_v from_o this_o power_n of_o mist_n on_o in_o the_o church_n if_o they_o go_v not_o on_o this_o special_a delegation_n than_o they_o run_v unsent_a and_o be_v not_o the_o pastor_n of_o these_o flock_n more_o than_o of_o other_o and_o consequent_o they_o have_v no_o obligation_n upon_o they_o to_o feed_v these_o more_o than_o any_o other_o congregation_n which_o be_v absurd_a for_o beside_o the_o power_n of_o preach_v and_o dispense_n of_o ordinance_n there_o be_v always_o a_o special_a delegation_n of_o the_o person_n to_o such_o and_o such_o a_o people_n by_o which_o he_o become_v the_o ambassador_n &_o messenger_n of_o christ_n jesus_n who_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o hear_v and_o submit_v to_o as_o such_o 5._o this_o act_n of_o send_v minister_n to_o congregation_n suppon_n several_a thing_n that_o be_v beyond_o the_o line_n and_o cognition_n of_o the_o magistrate_n as_o such_o as_o the_o trial_n of_o minister_n gift_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o spiritual_a state_n of_o the_o congregation_n the_o sutablness_n or_o unsurablness_n of_o minister_n gift_n to_o such_o and_o such_o a_o people_n ability_n to_o judge_n and_o cognosce_fw-la in_o these_o as_o the_o matter_n and_o end_n of_o this_o work_n require_v with_o many_o other_o thing_n which_o not_o be_v grant_v to_o the_o magistrate_n as_o such_o the_o work_n to_o which_o these_o be_v necessary_o requisite_a can_v belong_v to_o he_o for_o every_o work_n to_o which_o god_n call_v any_o have_v its_o proper_a furniture_n of_o gift_n and_o ability_n without_o which_o none_o be_v to_o look_v upon_o themselves_o as_o call_v thereto_o 6._o some_o of_o the_o great_a patron_n and_o zealous_a promoter_n of_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o this_o and_o other_o thing_n belong_v to_o the_o church_n yield_v that_o this_o power_n be_v in_o and_o return_n to_o the_o church_n when_o the_o magistrate_n be_v either_o heathenish_a or_o heretical_a as_o vedelius_fw-la yea_o all_o be_v constrain_v to_o grant_v it_o how_o rational_a this_o be_v and_o how_o consistent_a with_o their_o argument_n the_o force_n of_o which_o be_v thereby_o utter_o break_v let_v any_o judge_n we_o ask_v when_o this_o power_n be_v grant_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n whether_o it_o come_v from_o christ_n jesus_n or_o the_o magistrate_n for_o a_o derive_v power_n it_o must_v be_v it_o can_v be_v from_o the_o magistrate_n who_o do_v not_o willing_o part_v with_o any_o of_o his_o power_n neither_o do_v religion_n robe_n the_o magistrate_n of_o his_o power_n nor_o depose_v he_o from_o his_o regality_n and_o the_o prerogative_n thereof_o as_o protestant_n maintain_v against_o the_o papist_n if_o it_o be_v derive_v and_o come_v from_o christ_n as_o it_o do_v we_o desire_v to_o know_v what_o way_n it_o be_v convey_v to_o she_o in_o this_o case_n and_o not_o in_o the_o other_o when_o the_o magistrate_n be_v christian_a as_o we_o find_v no_o difference_n of_o case_n anent_o this_o matter_n give_v in_o the_o word_n so_o we_o find_v the_o same_o institution_n precept_n and_o example_n therein_o by_o which_o the_o church_n be_v impower_v and_o oblige_v to_o exercise_v this_o government_n without_o the_o magistrate_n to_o continue_v not_o only_o without_o any_o restriction_n to_o time_n &_o case_n but_o without_o any_o repail_n we_o hear_v nothing_o from_o our_o adversary_n to_o answer_v this_o but_o ineptia_o foolish_a roving_n the_o truth_n be_v their_o argument_n conclude_v with_o as_o great_a force_n against_o all_o power_n of_o government_n in_o the_o church_n under_o persecute_v magistrate_n as_o christian_n for_o be_v there_o not_o in_o this_o case_n the_o erect_n of_o a_o empire_n in_o a_o empire_n which_o our_o enemy_n accoundt_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d anddo_fw-la not_o minister_n and_o christian_n owe_v as_o much_o subjection_n to_o the_o magistrate_n in_o the_o one_o case_n as_o in_o the_o other_o assertion_n 2._o that_o the_o right_a and_o power_n of_o election_n and_o call_n of_o minister_n to_o particular_a congregation_n be_v in_o the_o congregation_n themselves_o to_o who_o they_o be_v send_v by_o divine_a right_n and_o not_o in_o the_o magistrate_n and_o therefore_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v assume_v by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o take_v thus_o from_o they_o that_o this_o power_n of_o election_n of_o minister_n be_v not_o in_o the_o magistrate_n either_o by_o divine_a humane_a or_o ecclesiastical_a law_n need_v not_o to_o be_v much_o insist_v on_o see_v scripture_n and_o antiquity_n for_o a_o thousand_o year_n after_o christ_n give_v not_o the_o least_o ground_n for_o it_o we_o desire_v to_o know_v from_o our_o antagonist_n prelate_n and_o erastians_n from_o whence_o come_v this_o power_n or_o who_o be_v the_o giver_n of_o it_o to_o the_o magistrate_n when_o they_o have_v condescend_v on_o the_o orginal_a derivation_n of_o this_o power_n and_o make_v it_o out_o to_o be_v just_a than_o we_o shall_v consider_v it_o which_o by_o none_o of_o these_o party_n have_v be_v yet_o do_v except_o by_o vedelius_fw-la but_o on_o such_o ground_n as_o give_v every_o particular_a member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o good_a claim_n thereto_o as_o he_o as_o will_v be_v evident_a to_o any_o that_o consider_v his_o argument_n for_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n they_o have_v none_o the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v that_o which_o be_v most_o stick_v at_o the_o people_n right_a and_o power_n of_o election_n which_o be_v deny_v by_o our_o adversary_n but_o we_o thus_o make_v it_o out_o as_o our_o divine_n have_v do_v