Antichrist shall only preuaile in his Kingdome but three yeares and an half and in this time the Saincts shal be delyuered into his had who shall deale with them after his pleasure as Dan. cap. 7. 12. apoc 17. but when he hath reygned the forsayd tyme and hath spoyled all things in this world and shall sit in the temple of Ierusalem whose vprysing shal be by the working of Sathan with all deceipt of iniquity extolling himselfe aboue God And taking away the daily sacrifice Dan. 11. and the signe of the Crosse in all places as sayes Hippol. lib. de consummat saeculi Antichrist shall abolish the daily Sacrifice the signe of the Crosse and follow all sensualitie And lykewyse shal be the cause of the departure from Christs faith lawfull Pastor and Roman Emperour whose glorie shal be in all synne and therfore iustly is called the man of synne and following all sensuallity and lust as Dan. 11. But this the Pope doth not ergo he is not Antichrist neyther is his lyfe blemâ—shed with such bad qualities Therfore what vnderstanding haue these men in the worde of God that belieue it not concerning Antichrist neyther the graue authorities of the Fathers but rashly and presumptuously doe iudg the heigh Priest of God and vicare of Christ to be that abominable enemy of God and Antichrist to be his sonne our Lord and Sauiour QVAESTIO VIII Of the Primacy of S. Peter WHerefore doe the Papists worship the Pope as Supreame head of the Church and Byshop of all other Byshops Successor called to S. Peter and infallible Iudge in all causes of faith which titles and preheminence doe all sauour of Antichrist Luth. art 25. apud Roffens Cal. lib. 4. cap. 7. Centur. 1. part lib. 2. cap. 10. Nilus de primatu ANSVVER GOd did forsee that the people of Israel sometime might fall and declyne from religion eyther to the right hand or to the left therefore he prouided in the Synagogue a Pastor to whom in matters of doubt they might haue recourse God prouyded in the Law a supream Head for deciding of controuersies doubts that by his authority all controuersies arysing might be decyded and defined Moreouer the Scâ—ipture addeth Deut. 17. v. 12. If any man will do presaâ—â—â—uoâ—sly and not obey the commaundement of the Priest who in that tyme ministreth to the Lord thy God by decree of tâ—e iudge that man shall die the death God is no lesse carefull for his Church then he was for the Synagogue What the high Priest in the law was the same is S Peter in the Ghospell It is of greater reason to haue an head now then it was in the law A head is for holping of vnity in faith religion All men belieue that the Pope is head of Christs Church Wherefore seing with no lesse fauour the sonne of God doth assist and succour his owne Church with â—he Priest hood and authority now in this age then he did long since the Synagogue For which he hath instituted and placed S. Peter Pastor and hath ordayned that his successors shall rule in hir Therefore now it coÌ„mes to passe that greater necessity is at the present tyme to haue a Pastor for the gouernement of his Church then in S. Peter tyme. For at this tyme there are many more ChristiaÌ„s in the world indued with farr lese holynes and vertue theÌ„ they were long since Moreouer they are inuironed and compassed daylie with vpstart heresies and nouelties and for this cause greater necessity of a head by whom Gods flock may be preserued keept in one faith and religion and that all controuersies and dissention may be taken away For confirmation of the veritie all good Christians belieue that the Byshop of Rome sitting in S. Peter chayre is by lawfull ordination and the appointment of Christ the chief Pastor of the whole militant Church whose voyce euery sheepe ought to harken to as to the voyce of Christ his Apostle For no man that hath his senses free and is not led with the spirit of errour Will make any question of the Supremacy of S. Peter No man makes question against him that hath not the spirit of errour and his successores Seing so many euident testimonies coâ—firme the same thinge as first Christ sayes to him Iohn 1. Thow art Simon the sonne of Iona thow shalt be called Cephas the which by interpretation is Peter that is a stone or a rock Here it is to be obserued that Christ makes a promise that Simon shal be called Peter for as a stone is the fouÌ„dation of the house For Simon Peter had the first place by Christs appointment so shall Peter be the fouÌ„dation of his mâ—litant Church Secondly in choosing his twâ—lue Aposties Mâ—rc 13. Luc. 6. Simon is nominated first and is furnamed Peter Thirdly when the Godhead of Christ was reuealed to him and when he had confessed the same Chrâ—st answeres expounding his name saying and I say vnâ—o thee thow art Peter and vpon this rock I will build my Church c. For his name declairs him to be a rock and a ground stone of Christs Church In which wordes the promise of Christ is fulfilled and the reason of the promâ—se is declared concerning the new name So that Peter himself is called here a rock and that Christ promisseth to build his Church on him for in promising to Simon that he should be called Peter when as yet he had confessed him was to that end that he might confesse the more strongly and firmly as a rock Christ pronuÌ„ces Peter blessed and a rock to build his church on Next he named him Peter before he had confessed him so that he was thus farr forward in being the rock before his profession And thirdly when as yet he had not confessed Christ pronunces him not only a rock or a man in stedfastnes of the propertie of a rocke in his faith but also such a rock wherupon he would build his Church for euery Apostle was a rock in generall but S. Peter was this rocke in speciall whereof Christ now speakes Fourthly that the confession of Peter might remaine vnmoueable after Christ ascention For allwayes the Church needs a visible head rock Christ prayed for Peters faith The Church hath need of a visible head therefore Christ prayed for Peter that he might streÌ„ghen his bretheren What the giuing of the name and promise of Christ erected and he was bid to strenghen his bretheren After his conuersion of Christs denyall last of all to showe what kynd of strength Peter should giue to his Bretheren Christ willed him feede his lambes as for conclusion of these a foresayd the promise of the name of Peter was the first cause of Peters being this rock The giuing of the name was the performance of the promise The confession of Christs God-head was the fruite of the gift and of the promise The promise to haue the Church build on
straitly that that which is once iudged in a Synode and rightly disposed let no man call it againe in question seeking thereby occasion of tumult or of falshood for it is wicked and sacrilegious after the iudgement of so many Priests to leaue any thing to his owne opinion to be discussed Emperours nor Kings nor no lay-men are admitted in generall counsels to defyne matters of faith Morouer neyther are Emperours nor any lay-men howsoeuer learned in holy Scriptures admitted in a generall counsell to defyne matters of faith or at any tyme haue been admitted as the Byshops be who assist the Pope not only as counsellers but also as iudges and for that cause they say so the holy Synode hath decreed For what is more contrary to reason then wher is treated of saluation damnation of good and euill and in defyning of the wholsome doctrin from errour Byshops are both counsellers iudges It is contrary to reason that in matters of saluation damnation lay-meÌ„ should be iudges to commit the iudgmeÌ„t of these things to lay-men which appertaine to the dutie of the Pastor according to Hier. saying cap. 3. I shall giue you Pastors according to my hart and they shall feede you with science and doctrine and S. Paul sayes Eph. 4. He hath giuen some to be Pastors and Doctores But the Emperours from the beginning of the Church vsed to followe and heare the iudgement of the Apostolicall seat and the generall counsells and not to argue or to giue verdâ—cte or pronuÌ„ce sentence with the Byshops of the Church whereupon S. August apud possid in vita eius cap. 18. sayes That the Byshops of the Apostolicall seat Innocent and Zozimus accursed the Pelagians cut theÌ„ of from being members of the Church and wrot letters to the Affrican Churches of the Orient and Occident signifying theÌ„ to be accursed and to be eschewed of all Catholickes Also the most godly Emperor Honorius hearing Pelagius and his fellowers accursed decreed them also by his owne law damned adiudged for Heretickes Emperors and Kings haue made concurrence to the counsels for obedience haue made lawes for obedience to be done for receauing their decrees Lykewise S. August epist 166. maketh mention of the decrees of Constantine the Great to haue the lyk strength against Hereticks So that these godly Emperours neuer medled themselues to be examiners of the counsell farreles iudges but what was decreed in the counsel we read them to haue made lawes for the execution of the counsell Popes verdict and sentence and euer haue shewed themselues as nourses in the Church of God rendering all reuerence and submitting themselues to the Churches authorities as witnesse Ruff. lih 10. Eccl. Hist cap. 2. Valentin Emper. ad Synod Chalc. Martianus Act. 3. Concil Chalced S. Ambros epist. 32. S. Aug. hom de Paschal in ps cont part donat epist 48. Philo. libro de Victimis Athanasius in Epistol ad Solit. vitam agente Epistol idem Suâ—idas in vita Leontij Theodor. lib. 4. cap. 17.18 lib. 4. cap. 5. But contrarywise it is proper to all Heretickes The germanes contemned the counsell of Trent to their great ignominie to contemne all generall counsels of the Church as did most filthyly the ProtestaÌ„ts of Germanie the last of Febu 1537. with ignominy to their nation for dispysing the counsell set and appointed by the Pope whom they will not acknowledge to haue power to iudge nor yet the Byshopes with him but the vniuersall Church But more plainly they may say it doth appertaine also to barbers taylors coblers bakers brewers wolspynners botchers cookes apotecharies and euery mechanicall and all trashkynde of people to whome God neuer gaue authority to iudge neyther were admitted to come in the place of iudgement to hear what was iudged in matters of faith but only to Prelates is committed the authority of feeding as S. Pet. saies 1. Pet. cap. 5. v. 2. Feed the stock of God which is amongst you No Emperour may call a generall counsell lawfully neyther doth his power extend in all partes to be obeyed and depending vpon you thus he Moreouer neyther Emperours of themselues may command a counsell the reason is euident because it is not sayd to the Emperor feed my sheepe but only to Peter and his successors neyther is the Emperor or King head of the Church neyther haue they commandement ouer all Byshopes seing many Byshops remaine out of their iurisdiction and commandement But a generall counsell should be commaunded of him who may coÌ„maund that they assemble otherwise the indictioÌ„ and command shal be of no value or effect and seing the Emperour or King is only a generall defender of the Church to whome for that cause that iurisdiction to commaund a counsell was neuer lawfull neyther at any tyme hath been instituted of the Emperors by authority of theÌ„selues And albeit some de facto haue indicted couÌ„sels notwithstaÌ„ding no otherwayes Whatsoeuer Emperours hath done was by consent of the Pope of Rome theÌ„ with the authority and consent of the Byshop of Rome neyther did the first Byshops in those tymes indicte any counsell without the helpe of the Emperors so that euer the authority of the Pope was ioyned with the Emperor as for example that great couÌ„sell of Nyce was not only gathered of Constantyne Emperor but also of Siluester Pope as it is sayd in the sixt Synod Act. 8. to whome agreeth Ruff. lib. 10. Hist. cap. 1. saying Constantine to haue gathered that great counsell by iudgment of the Pope and Priestes of the Church and not of his owne authority and commandement Moreouer this authority of the Emperor was very necessary for the Byshops to be gathered at one counsell First The authority of the Emperour is necessary for diuers respectes that the Prelates of the Church might by their authority be defended from paganes in the way Secondly that they might be transported with publique charges for then they were poore and might not beare so great chardges of themselues Thirdly because in that tyme the old lawes of the Emperors did rule and were in effect obserued which inhibited all great meetings and couentions without the authority of the Emperor for fear of sedition and coniurations leg conuent cod de epist. cop presb which lawes haue now ceased OBIECTION IT is sayd Iohn 5. search the Scriptures therefore the certaine way to compose controuersies of religion is by the searching of the Scriptures and not by decition and senteÌ„ce of counsell ANSVVER THe Scripture kept the place of a witnes and not of a iudge For Christ hath not sayd search the Scriptures because they bear iudgemeÌ„t of me but he sayth search the scriptures by the indicatiue word because they beare witnes of me for it is not the office of a witnes to giue sentence but only to giue testimonie but it is the iudges part to hear search and examine the witnes
Bishopes vnto this present day from the very seat of Peter to whom our Lord commended the feeding of his sheepe after his resurrection to the Episcopal dignitie of the present Bishop and last the name catholik doth hold me in the vnitie of the Church Not without caus the churh hath retained the name Catholick which name this Church hath alwayes not without cause among so many different sectes of heresies in such sort obtained that although all heretiks desire to be called Catholikes yet if a stranger should demaund where is the assembly of the Catholick Church No heresie can show their church for catholick ther is no heretik that dareth assigne him his temple or his preiching-hous for Catholick Lykewise in his Symbol sayes he we do beleue the holy Church that is Catholik for the heretiks schismatikes do cal their congregations Churches but the heretikes beleuing those things of God which ar false Heretikes by error do violat the faith Schismatikes by making diuisions violated vnitie They apertein not to the Catholik church do violate the faith the schismatikes by vnlawful diuisiōs do separat them selfes frō brotherly charitie although they beleue in all things the same with vs. And for this cause nether do the heretikes or schismatikes apertain to the catholik Church And againe S. Aug. lib. de vnit eccles c. 4. sayes all those that beleue that our lord IESVS CHRIST is come in the flesh in which he was borne and hath suffered that he is the Sonne of God with God and one with the Father the only immutable word of the father by whom all things weer made but do in such sort dissent from his body which is his Church that their communion is not withall them with whom the Catholick Church doth participate but ar in som diuided part it is a manifest token that they ar not in the catholik Church lykwise Prosper sayes that he who doeth communicat He who accordes with the vniuersall Church is a Catholik Vnder S. Cyprian the people where called Catholikes with this vniuersal church is a Christian and a Catholick he that doth not communicat is an heretik an Antichrist And Pacianus sayes the people vnder S. Cyprians charge haue neuer been called otherwayes then Catholikes Now amongst thiese testimonyes what place haue our reformed to be named with a catholik tytle whom as S. Aug. sayes dissention and diuision makes heretikes And againe in his Epist. 152. ad donatist Whosoeuer is deuyded from the Catholik Church sayes he how laudable soeuer he seeme to liue for this only cryme No heretik nor schismatik how soeuer he liue well can not be saued out of the church that he is only separated from the vnitie of the Church he shal be also secluded from lyf and the wrath of God shal remaine on him This same argument hath Fulgentius lib. de fid ad Pet. diac cap. 29 saying hold for most certain and dout not in any maner that no heretik or schismatik baptized in the name of the Father Sonne Holy Ghost if he be not in vnitie with the catholik-Church although he giue great almes and shede his very blood for the name of CHRIST yet can he in no wyse be saued Thus the fathers in the primitiue tyme wholly affirme how so euer they agree with the Catholikes in all the artickles of the belief and in holy Scriptur yet not being in the vnitie of the catholik church can not be saued What shal we say of the moderne heresies that deny the artikles of ther belief The ignorance of heresie to pretend which is no thaires and peruert the Scripture in adding diminishing in glossing and commenting in changing and chopping and yet will pretend the Catholik Church and hir name But in vaine as S. Augustin sayes to the Donatistes yow accord vvith vs in baptisme and in the belief and in all other Sacraments of our Lord but in the Spirit of vnitie and in the place of peace and last in the catholick Church No heresie could euer atteine to the name Catholick how soeuer they weere desirous to haue it you are not vvith vs and therfor heretikes separated and cut of from the church and nothing pertinent to this name Catholik For vve see euidentlie this name kept S. Augustein in the right faith for no heretik could obtein the name of the Catholik Church although euery heresie did much desyr to obtein it The reasō is because that all heresies be but partes and peculiar sects of some country or the doctrin of a small tyme. The word Catholik betokenes ane vniuersall profession Where as the vvord Catholick doth betoken a certaine vniuersall profession induring from the beginning to the ending and spread abrod thorovv all partes but those vvho began their doctrine after the apostles tyme vver euer named of their masteres The heresies haue thair names of the inuentors of that sect as the Arians of Arrius the Lutherans of Luther and the Caluinists of Caluin but they in the contrary vvere called Catholikes vvho kept the vniuersall faith vvhich the Apostles had first taught and vvhich vvas continued alvvayes in the vvhole Church And for that S. Augustin tract 22. in Ioh. We haue receaued the holy Ghost He hath receiued the holy Ghost that keeps vnitie and gif we reioyce of the faith with the name if vve loue the church and if vve be knit and conioyned together by charitie if vve do all exalt and reioyce to be a catholik as vvell in faith as in name Here vpon Pacianus Epist 1. ad Symphron sayes be not angry good brother and do not afflict thy self a Christian is my name The word Christian is the forname and the word Catholick is the surname and a Catholik is my surname by the former I am called and by the second I am made manifest Therfor this name is no wayes attributed to those who are enimies to this name and hath it in scorne and mockerie that iustlie they discouer ther corrupt affection The corrupt affections of heretikes to this name Catholik and hereticall malice toward the word in so much that some of them calleth it a voyd and vaine word some againe a gracelesse terme fruitles name so the old heretikes as S. August cont Gaud. lib. 2. cap. 25. sayes called it a humain fiction Thair intention is to put out of memorie the name Catholik by their euill nature and qualitie they geue diligence to abolish and extinguish both the veritie of our faith the name consonant thervnto therefore their name declare thē sufficiently what they are prognosticating of them as they are as Iustinus in triphone sayes Heretikes were prognosticat to com befor they cáme there shall aryse many false Christs and false Prophet and they shall seduce many of the faithfull and are distinguisht amongst vs taking their names of certane men as euery on was author of
S. Peter Seing Ioane the eight was a woman and incapable of this Byshoprick long since elected lawfull Pope and receaued in the Chayr of Sainct Peter ANSVVER WHen we sayd him to be a lawfull successor of S. Peter to haue receaued full power in the whole Church of Christ who by lawfull way is receaued of the Church The Pope of Rome is euer chosē capable and sett in the Seat of S. Peter This sense no otherway we vnderstand but that the Church lawfully electes receaues him who is capable of the high Priesthood of the which is neyther a woman nor an infidell nor an Heretick capable of nor can be Whatsoeuer be the cause in which a Pope may be chosen incapable of this byshoprick I iudge charitably with many godly and learned men that it came neuer to passe as yet that any was chosen incapable God of his owne goodnes and prouidence turning away the perill of such euentes from his Church who neyther in this manner of canonicall election of his owne Vicar is dead sleepeth or is careles who hath said Math. 28. v. 20. Behold all dayes I am with you to the consummation of the world But this assertion is a manifest and a falsely whatsoeuer they can produce concerning Pope Ioane to be a woman for first there is none of the greek latin historiographers and wryters who make mention of one sillable or word of this mater neyther Cedrinus nor Zonoras much more auncient then Martyn Pollon the first author of this fable who are wranglers and contemners of the Byshop of Rome and most willingly are glad to haue such an occasion to scoff at the Latine Secondly the same Martyn Pollonus doth not affirme this history as certaine The Author doubtes of the historie but sayeth it was spoken by report and of vulgar rumor for Sigibertus Marianus Scotus who were a liue before Martinus Polonus in their old hand written bookes make no mention of a woman Ingland and Moguntia are diuerse regiōs Thirdly Martinus Polonus reportes this woman Pope to be borne in Moguntia in Ingland which is a manifest lie seing Moguntia is not in Ingland but in Germany situat on the Rhyne Fourthly the same Martinus Pollonus doth leane to an other falshoode that this woman-pope was brought vp in Athens The history of Martinus Polonus is full of contradictions and lyes and studied there her course of morall sciences seing by all vniforme consent of all wryters that neyther then nor long before any studies was at Athens much lesse inhabited of any So that it is a manifest lie that euer this woman Pope were Far lesse credible that any woman of honesty or estate bygge with child and neare her tyme of deliurance to goe throughout the streates in publick processiō with so great perill of infamie and scandal to her self from which easely she might haue excused her selfe Last of all I shall euer persuade my selfe that God would neuer haue permitted such a base scādall to ryse in his Church As concerning the rest of the trifles that is obiected by our aduersaries as the hole in the chayr for his dimissorialles the image of a woman the declyning of the street and way all are sufficiētly answered of Bellarm. tom 1. cont Gen. lib. 3. c. 24. Therefore I counsell all Protestants to moderate their hatred and malice against the Pope and see of Rome A friendly exhortation to vse mederatiō in detracting the see of Rome Let them call to remembrance the hereticall mynd and ende of Wiritri Archdeane of Oxford in England who in the yeare of God 1571. expounding that place of Scripture Ephes 4. v. 11. He therefore gaue some to be Apostles and some Prophets and some Euangelists and some Pastors and teachers c. To serue the tyme Weretries fatall end in glossing the Scriptures against the Pope inferres the Pope you heare sayes he what offices are promised and giuen to his Church but amongst these vocatiōs you heare nothing of a Pope which when he had made his application immediatly he was stricken with a great sicknes and became dombe and was caryed out of the stoole to his bed not to his dinner as he presupposed to goe Thus Surius in chronicis de vita Veretri c. Who dyed miserably in raging and wrangling of consciēce to the fear of all that were about him Lykwise I cannot omit to rehearse as it was reported to me by faithfull men and beholderes of the truth of M. walter Makcanker one of the Puritane ministers in Edinburg in Scotland an 1614. expoūding the 13. chapter of the reuelation in his sermon speaking of the beast that had seauen heades Mackankers fatall and in applying Antichrist to the Pope and ten hornes vpon his hornes were ten crownes and vpon his head the name of blasphemy c. Applying these things to the Pope with such vehemence of gaping and gloaring calling him Antichrist as Puritans doe mentioned and discrybed vnder the name of the beast in the reuelation immediatly the hand of God was on him who although he dissembles long yet in the myddest of their iniquity punishes with equitie that his teeth fell into his throat and he fell downe in the stoole and from thence was caryed home to his house half dead the night following senseles ended his lyfe And in such lyke manner the sweet Sainctes so called of the Clouted Kirches-sisters of the new Ghospell make their finall ende for as they lyue in hatred and malice against the Pope so die they in the same malignity that we may rightly see that Luthers benediction hath efficacie and power for as the benedictions of Gods Sainctes was in efficacie towards men that belieued in God euen so Luthers maledictiō workes powerfully in the followers of his misbeliefe Which Vitus Theodoricus a Lutheran makes mentiō of Tom. 4. Operum Luth. Praef. in Ioell The which is worthy of memory saying when he came to the Synod to confirme the confession of Augustana by testimonies of Scriptures Fathers in the way he was wonderfull sicke and by stopping of his vryne nynes dayes almost dead sit vp in his bed and lifting vp his handes to blesse those that were about him vttered these wordes for his benediction saying The Lord replenish yow with his benedictiō and hatred to the Pope So that being almost dead he left them with hatred to the Pope as a right inheritance of his cursed mynd which malediction as from Cain discends linially to his successors so from Luther it passed in his successors as it took effect to worke in himself QVESTIO XI Of the infallible authority of Generall Counsells WHerfore doe the Papists esteeme so much of their Generall Counsells Seing their Byshops in them may erre as men And moreouer vniustly against all reason do exclude the power and voyce of Emperours and Kings in iudging matters of faith Luth. in varijs locis Calu. lib. 4. inst cap.
and so all things hard and pondered A iudge and a witnes diâ—fers greatly he giueth sentence therfore seeing an Hereticke and Catholicke both sayes that they haue searched the Scriptures these Scriptures beare testimony of their doctrine so that in this debate the searching of the Scripture is not a sufficient way seing these Scriptures are interpreted of euery one at his pleasure but there is need of a iudge who may giue sentence of the true interpretation and sense of Scriptures and this iudgement and sentence is due and proper to the Pope and his counsell and not to the searching of Scriptures But this is the ambition and pryde of all Heresies who set at nought the vniuersality of the whole Church because they will credit them selues their owne proper iudgement Hereticks wil credit themselues and noe other and that all men from the primitiue tymes haue erred and they only haue not erred let scriptures fathers counsels vniuersalitie and practise do all what is right they will belieue themselues and remaine iudges in their owne cause as though they were gods not men and neyther subiect to sinne nor error OBIECTION THe Generall counsell doth represente the whole Church as defyneth Martyn 5. in the ende of the counsell of CoÌ„stance which counsell representeth the persone of the wholl Church which Church can noe way be gathered togeather but so farr as the Prelates assemble in one place and in the name of all the faithfull But it followes that the vniuersall Church cannot erre Ergo neyther the Generall counsel which is the vertue of the whol Church ANSVVER SEcluding the Pope as head the counsell is only 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 neyther doth it represent perfectly the wholl Church and so it may erre because they are particular counsels as the couÌ„sell of Carthage and Areminense as Caiet Tractat. de Auth. Concil cap. 9. OBIECTION IF the infallibilitie of the counsell depende on the Pope in vaine it seemes to call a counsell for truely alswell by the Pope himself without a counsell the matter may be defyned as wish the counsell ANSVVER NOt so neyther are couÌ„sels instituted in vaine for how much more inquisition is made of the groundes of verity and is decerned by the iudgement of many the verity is made the clearer and errour is taken away because those things in which the Pope defines with the counsell are of greater weight then those which he defynes of himself that the very Heretick may persuade himself that it is true solyde which by so great labour and exquisit diligence is found out and with so many consentes is defyned for veritie wherefore the Pope doth wysly in censuring of heresie and other weightie causes to conuocate counsel and to defyne the same with them In which definition of counsell although the Byshops are iudges yet notwithstanding they are inferior iudges but the Pope is supreame iudge And as a King in the kingdome may recall the sentence of an inferior iudge when the greater part is left out euen so the Pope as head of the Church may approue and reiect with the assistance of the holy Ghost and when the greatest part of the Church condiscendes and defynes therupon with him OBIECTION IN many counsels the Pope of Rome is absent and only his Legates are present Ergo they may err very much ANSVVER I Grant such counsels may erre except those Legates haue instruction from the Pope and do followe the same and that the definition of the counsell be conformable to his instruction in soe doing the counsell agreeth with the head in the same doctrine and such a counsell is adiudged lawfull when the Pope before hath giuen them instruction and hath pronunced his iudgement what shal be done But if the Pope send no instruction by his legates albeit his legates do coÌ„sent vnto the definition of the counsel it is of no effect neyther is that definition infallible because the authority to define and conclude is not in the Legats who are but only messengers betwixt the counsell and the Pope But for conclusion all coÌ„uselles before they conclude any thing after longe deliberation and inquisition in euery matter with their iudgements and sentence they vse to seeke confirmation of the Pope as we read of the counsell of Trent in the bull of Pius 4. by which confirmation both the counsell is approued lawfull and all things are confirmed and ratifyed and this is the manner of all Catholick Counsels that for many no heresie dare show one to be an vniuersall counsell for them although they had for protectors of their heresie most puissant and potent Emperours and Kings as Valence and Constance Arian Emperors the Vandals and Gothes as also all sectaries haue attempted but as yet neuer could assemble a generall counsell QVESTIO XII Of the veritie of the Roman-Church and of her notes WHerefore doe the Papistes promise to all men saluatioÌ„ to be only in the Roman Church Conf. Aug. art 6. Calu. lib. 4. inst cap. 1. § 10. Brent in conf Wittemb cap. de Eccl. ANSVVER BEcause it standeth with reason for that the Papistes haue certaine markes of credible euidence that only that multitude of men who obey at the present tyme the Pope of Rome The true Church is knowne by her markes are the true Catholick Church which we proue after this manner Seing that congregation of men is only the Church of Christ which is videlicet one holy Catholick and Apostolicall Church So that all the auncient counselles were decerned by those tokens from other sectes and not by the preaching of the pure word neyther by the pure vse of the Sacramentes The Hereticks marks are as obscure as their church which is inuisible the which the Heretickes assigne for notes of their Church alyke obscure with their Church For what is he of the fift EuaÌ„gelists profession who proues not by those marks that the Church of Christ is with him and with no other Because saith he only in his congregation is the true preaching of the word and sincere vse of the Sacraments but markes ought to be euident otherwise they are no markes but the coÌ„gregatioÌ„ that obeyes the Pope of Rome hath those euident markes which is One Holy Catholick and Apostolicall Church therefore this is the true Church and only in her is expected saluatioÌ„ For first the Church of God is One partely in the head The Church is one for diuerse respects in so farre that all Byshops acknowledge the Pope for head to whom they agre and accord in doctrine and in administration of the Sacramentes Partly in diuyne worship for withall Catholikes is offered the same sacrifice and the same Sacramentes with the same administration of Ceremonies And partly amongst the members themselues to wit in the doctrine of Faith for all belieue one thing and condemne heresie In this one Church vnity is kept In one church vnity is kept and taught as witnesseth