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A08327 The guide of faith, or, A third part of the antidote against the pestiferous writings of all English sectaries and in particuler, agaynst D. Bilson, D. Fulke, D. Reynoldes, D. Whitaker, D. Field, D. Sparkes, D. White, and M. Mason, the chiefe vpholders, some of Protestancy, and some of Puritanisme : wherein the truth, and perpetuall visible succession of the Catholique Roman Church, is cleerly demonstrated / by S.N. ... S. N. (Sylvester Norris), 1572-1630. 1621 (1621) STC 18659; ESTC S1596 198,144 242

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Christ who was to come in flesh Thou art a priest for euer according to the order of Melchisedech Of Saint Ambrose Christ is declared to offer in vs whose speach sanctifyeth the sacrifice which is offered Of Epiphanius The Priesthood of Melchisedech now florisheth in the Church Theophilact Christ is called a Priest for euer because there is dayly offered there is perpetually offered an oblation by the mynisters of God hauing Christ our Lord both the Priest and sacrifyce Of Saint Leo Eucherius Primasius and the rest whose testimonyes togeather with the Priestly function of Melchisedech which they mayntayne M. Fulke and his felow-protestants vtterly contemne Insomuch as Fulke sayeth this bringing forth of bread and wine was no part of Melchisedeches Priesthood therfore those Fathers were deceaued that iudged that act to pertayne to his Priesthood Marke the arrogancy of this yesterday-vpstart in censuring the Fathers for allowing a Priesthood which he with his adherentes flatly detest Well then seing they renounce both these orders I know not in what ranke to place them vnlesse it Tully in Philip. be in the order of Asinius the voluntary Senatour as Tully iesteth at him himselfe being made by himselfe Or of the order of Don-Quixote knighted in an Inne by the good fellow his host For so they are eyther voluntary Priestes arrogating that dignity without commission or created at the Nags-head in Cheape by them that had as much authority to make them as the Inkeeper to dub a knight Or at the most they can be no other then Parlamentall Priests ordayned by the new deuised forme of that temporall Court authorized by the letters patents first of a Child then of a woman which although it may giue more shew and countenance to the vsurpation of their titles yet it giueth no more right then the former to the dignity of their functions 13. Moreouer no secular Princes or temporall Magistrates No secularprinces haue power to cōferre ecclesiastical orders haue authority to confer Ecclesiasticall orders But the order of Mynistery which our ghospellers challenge was both in Kinge Edward and Queene Elizabeths dayes wholy deuised and primarily conferred by the is secular and temporall authority It was therefore no true Episcopall Priestly or Ecclesiasticall order The Maior or first Proposition is apparant in nature For no man can imparte vnto others that which he hath not himselfe Secular persons neyther a part nor assembled togeather in publike Parlament haue any ecclesiasticall order or iurisdiction much lesse can they communicat it vnto others Then Ciuill Magistrates haue only Ciuill power in Ciuill affayres ordeyned to Ciuill and naturall endes The Episcopall or Priestly order is a spirituall dignity touching spirituall functions directed to a spirituall and supernaturall end which can no more be deriued from a Ciuill Magistrate then white from blacke day from night The Minor or second Proposition I proue by the Parlament lawes other testimonyes vnanswerable In the first of King Edward a Statute was made That Archbishops Bishops should not send out their sommons citations other processes in their own names but in the name and stile of the Kinge Seeing as the law it selfe speaketh that all authority of iurisdiction spirituall Edward 1. chap. 2. and temporall is deriued and deducted from the Kinges Maiesty as supreme head of these Churches and Realmes of England and Ireland and so iustly acknowledged by the Clergy of the sayd Realmes Then you heard before how by the Kinges letters Patentes Archbishoprickes and Bishopprickes were conferred And Fox testifyeth that King Henry 8. imparted to the Fox in his Monu pag 522. 1. Eliz. 1. c. 1. Lord Cromwell the exercise of his supreme spirituall regimēt making him in the Church of England vicegerent for concerning all his iurisdiction ecclesiasticall In the first likewise of Queen● Elizabeths raygne a Statute was enacted whereby all spirituall or ecclesiasticall power or authority is vnited and annexed to the Imperiall crowne of her Realme c. all sorrayne vsurped power iurisdiction preheminence cleerly extinguished c. and by solemne oath renounced forsaken in so much as Doctour Whitgift placed in the Queene the fulnes of VVhitg tract 8. c. 3. d. 33. all ecclesiasticall gouernement from whome all ecclesiasticall power and authority is deriued to Bishops and mynisters she hauing in her as he writeth the supreme gouernment in al causes ouer all persons as she doth exercise the one apportayning to matters Ciuile and temporall by the Lord Chauncelour So doth she the other concerning the Church religion by the Archbishops 14. As this power was straunge and neuer heard of before in any Christian heathen or Turkish commonwealth So the maner of consecrating the mynisters of those dayes was new and before vnasuall For another Act was made in the third of King Edwards raign 3. Edward c. 12. fol. 15. wherein it is sayd Be it therefore enacted by the Kinges Highnes with the assent of the Lords spirituall and temporall and the Com●ons of this present Parlament assembled and by the authority of the same That such forme and manner of making and consecrating of Archbishops Bishops Priests Deacons and other Mynisters of the Church as by sixe Prelats and sixe other men of this Realme learned in Gods law by the Kinges Maiesty to be appointed and assigned or by the most number of them shal be deuised for that purpose and set forth vnder the great seale of England before the first day of Aprill next comming shall by vertue of this present Act be lawfully exercised and vsed and none other any Statute law or vsage to the contrary in any wise notwithstanding Further when this new deuised forme of consecrating Bishops Priests c. bred many doubtes of the inualidity of their consecration and ordering Queene Elizabeth in publique Parlament decreed that all persons that haue been or shal be made ordered or consecrated Archbishops Bishops Priestes after the forme and order prescribed by Kinge Edward in the same forme and order be in very deed 8. Elizab. 1. and also by authority hereof declared and enacted to be and shal be Archbishops Bishops Priests c. and rightly made ordered and consecrated Any Statute law canon or other thing to the contrary notwithstanding 15. What meaneth this Statute Were your Bishops lawfully ordeyned and consecrated before Why then are they not only declared as M. Mason would excuse the manner of speach but enacted to be and shal be Archbishops c In vayne was this Act if they needed it not and Mason lib. 3. c. 4. p. 122. if they needed it it auayled them nothing as I haue already proued Or to speake more clearely Eyther the Lordes of the Parlament with their Queene had authority to install their Bishops in Episcopall dignity and make their inauguration lawfull in case it had beene inualid or they had no power to doe it Which of these M. Mason will you graunt For
I would holde my self to those by whose commaundement I beleeued the gospell c. VVhose authority being infringed weakned I could not now There is no ra●son we should beleeue the authority of the Roman Church in deliuering scripture and Protestants in expounding it contrary to her authority beleeue euen the gospell itself Imediatly before If thou say Beleeue not the Catholiques it is not the right way by the ghospell to driue me to the faith of Manichaens of Protestants because I beleeued the ghospell it self by the preaching of Catholiques 8. Yet if against all sense and reason if against both God and man you should perswade vs to beleeue your new constructions of S●riptuee against thē who taught you both Christ and Scripture do we not belieue the authority of men the voyce as you account your selues of the faythfull so submit our iudgments to the exposition of the Church 9. Further more the Church is the treasury or store-house of God to which he committeth all his heauenly ministeryes All thinges which I haue heard of my Father I haue made knowne to you It is his mouth or oracle which openeth the same to others his trumpet or cryer which promulgateth The Church is the store-house of truth Ioan. 15. v. ●● them to the world Go and teach all Nations c. teaching all thinges which I haue commaunded you It is the messenger which reuealeth his will The witnes which giueth testimony of his wordes and sayings The Vicegerēt which supplyeth the roome of his beloued You shal be witnesses to me in Hierusalem and in all lury c. As my Father hath sent me so I also do send you But Christ was sente from Matt. vlt. v. 19. Act. 1. v. 8. Ioan. 20. v. ●2 the throne of his Father with most ample power to decide all doubtes in matters of faith Therefore the Church succedeth him in this soueraigne authority she baptizeth now in his person sacrificeth in his person teacheth in his person gouerneth in his person excōmunicateth in his person so she determineth with infallible assistance and iudgeth all Controuersies in his person If we be commanded to heare her obey her belieue her be ruled by her If we must open our owne faults complayne of our brethren to her be bound or loosed The Church iudgeth of the writings of the Apostles she cōposeth the Canon of Scripture she iudgeth of the true sense and interpretation of scripture of our sinns by her if she must cleare out doubts examine our causes redresse our scandals quiet our contentions she no doubt is the supreme iudge of all our spiritual affayres When any doubt is made of the writings of the Apostles whether they be theirs or no as whether the Epistle of S. Paul to the Laodiceans be his or not it belongeth to the Church to decide the matter to receaue or reiect it Therfore she iudgeth of the Apostolicall doctrin of the sacred Canon she iudgeth what is consonant to the diuine spirit of God and what is dissonant thereunto When any heresy springeth from the false interpreration of scripture she also censureth she condemneth it Therefore she is the iudge not only of the scriptures but also of the true sense and exposition of them And thus in all tymes and places whensoeuer occasion hath beene offered the Church hath exercised her iudiciall power CHAP. VII Wherein is manifested the conformable practise of the Church other authorityes alleadged the imagined circle obiected against vs auoyded IN the Apostles dayes a controuersy arose concerning the obseruation of the legall Ceremonyes it was diligently argued discussed and iudged by the Church with this diuine and Act. 15. v. 28. infallible resolutiō It hath seemed good to the holy Ghost and vs c. Some few yeares after a great debate fell out about the celebratiō of the feast of Easter whether it should be kept alwayes on the Sunday or on the 14. day of the first moneth the matter was referred examined iudged by the Church with such an vncontrolable sentence as they who resisted were absolutely censured and condemned for heretikes called Quartadecimani Witnes S. Augustine Epiphanius Tertullian others In all succeeding ages some such doubts questions or heresyes haue sprung vp and haue beene Aug. haer ●6 Epiphan haer 50. Tertul. in Praescrip alwayes sifted determined and iudged by the Church From her the Nouatians Arians Nestorians Eutichians Pelagians Monothelites and the rest haue still receaued their finall doome and irreuocable damnation in such iudiciall manner as no appeale no dispute no further examinations of their opinions hath beene after Hooker in the preface to his book of Eccles poli pag. 24. 25. 26. 27. Couel in his defence of M. Hooker permitted as not only M. Hooker and M. Doctour Couell two moderne Protestants but S. Athanasius also testifyeth of the Churches decrees in the Nicen Councell against the Arians Let no man thinke a matter discussed by so many Bishops confirmed with most cleare testimonyes may be called againe in question least if a thing so often iudged be reuised and knowne againe the curiosity of knowing vtterly want all end of knowing And Martian the Emperour He doth wronge to the iudgement of the most reuerend Synod who contendeth to rippe vp or publiquely argue and dispute of such thinges as be once iudged and rightly ordered Theodosius Athan. in decr Nice Syno Martian in rescript ad Pallad Praefect Preto C. desum Trin. l. 5. Cod. l. 1. tit leg damnat also and Valentinian those two Catholike Emperous who held the Imperiall Scepter in the yeare of our Lord 428. haue most catholikely enacted a law allowing the Churches definitiue sentence in sundry Coūcels VVhosoeuer in this holy Citty or other where do follow the prophane peruersity of Eutiches condēned in the late Councell gathered at Chalcedō do not so beleeue in all points of fayth as the 318. holy Fathers of the Nicene Councell as the 150. venerable Bishops assembled togeather in the Councell of Constantinople or the other two Coūcells following of Ephesus and Chalcedon let them know that they are heretiks But as th● Churches tribunall in condemning heresyes so in establishing true doctrine in all doubtfull cases hath beene esteemed infallible Hence that common saying of S. Augustine VVhosoeuer feareth to be ensnared Aug. l. 1. cont Cres c. 33. by the obscurity or hardnes of this question let him consult the Church thereof which the holy Scripture without all ambiguity doth demonstrate 2. Hence S. Paul immediatly instructed from the mouth of God when false seducers sought to caluminate Gal. 2. v. 2. Tertul. l. 4. contra Marc. c. 2. his heauenly doctrine had recourse vnto the Church for approbation of his Ghospell Least perhaps in vaine I should runne or had runne Whereupon Tertullian If he from whom S. Luke receaued his light desired to haue his fayth and preaching authorized by his predecessours how
fab Iero in praefat dia. contra Pel. Damas haer 100. Field in his 3. book frō the ●3 to the 33. chap. heresies or puddles of naughtines wherein they dissent from our true fayth they seuerally sucke from the poysoned fountaynes of sundry old heretikes From Aerius their deniall of sacrifice and prayer for the dead Of Purgatory from the Armenians of Indulgences from the Hussits Taborits of the reall presence from Berengarius of the worshipping of Images from Xenaias They hold auricular Conlession not necessary with the Iacobits Priestes Absolution vnauaylable with the Nouatians Adoration of Relikes superstitious with Vigilantius honour done to the Crosse Idolatry with the Paulicians With the Audians they reprehend enioyned Pennance With the Lampetians the discipline order of Monkes With Vigilanlantius and Iouinian vowed chastity and Priestes single life Pilgrimages to Saints bodyes with Claudius Taurinensis From Simon Magus they take their sufficiency of fayth without workes to saluation From Proclus and the Messalians their inherency of sin in the soules of the regenerate That man hath not Freewill from the Manichees That all sinnes proceede from the determinat purpose and decree of God from the Mahometanes O loathsome sincke O infectious dunghill composed of so many and such contagious heresies All which haue beene heretofore anathematized accursed by our Roman Church For although Field and some of his associates goe about to acquite their sect from sundry of these impieties because the aforesayd heretikes maynteyned them vpon another ground then Protestants doe yet seeing the auncient Church condemned not so much the groundes or causes whereupon they relyed as the assertions themselues our sectaryes must needs be guilty of the same heresies who agree with them in the same positions 7. Thirdly As our Church by it selfe so by orderly proceeding hath vanquished her rebells For first The Roman Church hath alwayes orderly resisted and subdued her enemyes she hath sifted and examined their cause shewed them their errors admonisht thē of their faults giuē them time to repent peace fauour vpon their amendement Then the obstinate she hath summoned to appeare at the publik Court or great Consistory of her Prouinciall or generall councells She hath giuen thē safe conduct to come go liberty to propose dispute argue their owne cause after diligent study examination and discussion thereof like a supreme Iudge and soueraygne Empresse she hath pronounced sentence eyther for thē or agaynst thē according to the direction of Gods holy spirit After this princely iuridicall manner Arius was condēned in the first Councell of Nice in the Coūcell of Constantinople Macedonius Nestorius in the Ephesin in the Calcedone Eutiches c. Luther his cōplices in the Coūcell of Trent 8. Our Gospellers proceed not so with vs They disturbe and cast vs out of possession without examining The Protestants haue vsed base and disorderly proceeding in expelling is frō our right our right or admitting vs to speake in our owne behalfe They affoard vs neyther leasure to propose nor tyme or place to argue our cause A cause vniuersally susteyned by so many Christian Princes and people honourably defended in such famous vniuersityes supernaturally confirmed by miracles frō heauen Consecrated with the bloud of innunerable Martyrs ratified by the prescription of all precedent ages and neuer as yet autentically censured or reprooued in any Notwithstanding so great interest in ●o renowned a cause they neuer conuented vs hitherto before any Prouinciall or Nationall much lesse Generall assembly They haue admitted vs to no indifferent publike Conference for which we haue often supplicated heretofore as the Protestant Relatour testifyeth saying Relatiō of Religion c. 29. Catholikes cry maynly in all places for triall by disputation Thus did ●ampian many yeares since with vs. Thus as I passed through Zurick did Cardinall Andrea of Constance and his Iesuites c. And thus doe I now in behalfe of my brethren make humble sute to Nimble ●ute made to his Maiesty for triall of our cause eyther by disputatiō or other publike conferēce his Maiesty to graunt vs at length that reasonable request which the Ministers hertofore haue by al meanes possible laboured to hinder and in liew of those honourable trialls haue incensed the clemency of our gracious Princes and procured their swords to be drawne agaynst vs Their Parlamentall lawes Edictes and Proclamations their dreadfull anger and heauiest indignation to bannish imprison or at least stoppe the mouthes of innocents vnheard Of whome Mayster Ormeroda Protestant truly auerreth The Clinke the Gatehouse the VVhite lion and the Fleete he might haue added the rackes tortures and gallowses Ormer picture Pur. p. 1. haue beene Protestants only arguments whereby they haue proued their cause these many yeares An euident token in the iudgement of all prudent men of their cowardly harts and guilty consciences Protestāts haue been cōstraynd dayly to refine alter their new beliefe but Catholiks neuer chāged any poynt of doctrine 9. Fourthly whereas Protestants notwithstanding their base teacherous courses haue beene still forced by our men to alter chaunge relent and vary in diuers fundamentall articles as hath beene discouered in explayning the precedent marke yet our Church in all the stormes which eyther in this present or former ages haue beene raysed agaynst her neuer shrunke neuer varied from the least iote of her beleefe She hath explicated sundry points more plainly more expresly defined some vnsearchable misteryes but she hath not at any time added any new or chaunged any old article of her fayth She hath wisely polished orderly carued fairely burnished righly adorned the precious stones as Vincentius calleth Vincēt in com ca. 27. them of heauenly doctrine But the same incorruptible stones she hath still vnchangeably preserued A faithfull keepe● and true interpreter she hath beene but no broker changer Vincent ibid c. 29. or diminisher of the treasure committed to her custody Posterity sayth the same Vincentius may congratulate it to haue vnderstood by her which antiquity not vnderstanding did reuerence and adore Yet the same which she learned she so taught as when she taught newly she taught not new thinges c. A little after Her doctrin followed these lawes of increase that by yeares it was strengthned 〈◊〉 time enlarged aduaunced by age and yet it still continued inuiolable ●nd incorrupt O triumphant and victorious Church worthy to beare the crowne and sway the scepter of Christs Priestly and eternall Kingdome worthy to be that inconquerable and fatall stone on which whosoeuer falleth according Math 21. vers 44. to our Sauiours prophecy hath beene broken and which bruiseth them on whome it lighteth For haue not all her enemies beene broken wasted and discomfited who haue risen agaynst her and hath not she bruised shiuered into peeces and cleane extinguished as many as she hath striuen against She censured and condemned the Nouatians Macedonians Arians Pelagians Eutichians
one you must needes Had they authority Then no other ordination at that time to the validity of their orders was essentially required in their opinions but the royall assent of the Queene approbation of her Nobility Had they no authority or power to do it It was an vniust act thē of vsurpation in that honourable assembly a great want of Wisdome to make a law not appertayning to their office and nothing Mason pa. 132. 8. Eliz. c. 1. profitable to their cause 16. The like absurdityes ensew of the dispensation her Maiesty vsed to make good the consecrations of D. Paprker and other intruders ordeyned in the second or third of her raigne For if their consecrations were sound as Mayster Mason obiecteth to himselfe why did the Queene in her letters patentes directed for the consecrating of them vse diuers generall wordes and sentences whereby she dispensed with all causes or doubtes of any imperfection or disability that could or might be obiected in any wise agaynst the same as may appeare by ●● Act of Parlament referring vs to the sayd letters Patents remayning vpon record Whereupon I conclude that seeing no man can dispense in the disabilityes of holy orders but such as haue authority to giue and conferre them eyther M. Maiesty who graciously dispensed to vse Mayster Masons wordes with Mason l. ● c. 5. p. 132. all causes or doubtes in their orders was the chiefe collatour and giuer of them or she iniuriously challenged to her selfe that which no law neyther of God nor man could possibly affoard her All the dawbinges which M. Mason applyeth to couer these faultes are pithily and iudiciously cast of by Mayster D. Champney For wheras he one while sayth that the Queene dispensed with the trespasses Doctour Champney in his answ to Mayster Mason c. 13. agaynst her owne lawes It is answered that there were no lawes of hers transgressed in consecrating of any before that tyme she hauing repealed in her first Parlament the lawes of Queene Mary which disanulled that new inauguration deuised by the twelue deputed by King Edward and hauing enacted no new lawes her selfe any way violable in that kinde before she practised that supreme power of her spirituall soueraygnty in graunting dispensations which was about the second yeare of her raygne Then when Mason dallyeth that she dispensed not in essentiall pointes of ordination but only in accidentall Mason l. 3. c. 5. p. 133. 8. Eliz. c. ● not in substance but in circumstance the wordes of the Queenes letters patents giue testimony agaynst him that she dispensed with all causes or doubtes of any imperfection or disability that can or may be obiected in any wise agaynst the same Now the doubtes were not about any accidentall ceremony or other not essentiall circumstance but as appeareth No man cā dispēse in the disabilityes of holy orders but he that hath power to cōferre thē by the Statute made in the Eight of Queene Elizabeth and by other most learned lawyers of the Realme as I shall declare by by they were about the very substance it selfe of their ordination whether they were true Bishops or no Likewise it belongeth only to them to dispense euen in accidental disabilities of holy orders to whome it belongeth to conferre the orders Therfore if Queene Elizabeth had power in M. Masons iudgemēt to doe the one she had authority to confer the other and that collation thogh voyde in it selfe was iudged sufficient amongst the Protestants Besides whereas M. Mason sayth That the wisdome of their Church discreetly and religiously pared away all superfluous and superstitions ceremonyes in ordination Mason l. 2. c. 11. p. ●4 What ceremony vnbeseeming What circumstance vnfitting remayned amongst them which needed dispēsation Especially seeing as M. Doctour Champney wel vrgeth agaynst him It is not to be thought that the Queene would dispense with those which the wisdome of their Church retayneth as good lawfull 17. In fine the ordination ministred in Queene Elizabeths raygne was no other then such as was deuised in the dayes of Kinge Edward ratifyed and confirmed by her But that inauguration was no validity as 8. Eliz. 1. appeareth by an Article of Queene Maryes made by the consent of the Lords spirituall and temporall and thus Fox in his Acts and Monum p. 1295. related by Mayster Fox Touching such persons as were heretofore promoted to any orders after the new sort and fashion of orders considering they were not ordered in very deed the Bishop c. The same Fox reporteth that Doctour Brook Bishop of Glocester proceeding to the degradation of Ridley consecrated Bishop after that new forme yet made Priest after the ancient tolde him That they were to degrade him only Fox pag. 1604. of Priesthood for they did not take him to be a Bishop Agaynst which Ridley neuer excepted Howbeit Cranmer being truly consecrated was degraded as Archbishop Then the opinion of the Iudges and censure of the common law disallowed that new ordination In the great Abridgement of the common law it is sayd Que Euesques c. That the Bishops in King Edward the sixt dayes were not consecrated Brookes Nouell cases placito 463. fol. 101. printed 1604. and therefore were not Bishops For which cause a lease for yeares made by them and confirmed by the Deane and Chapter shall not binde the Successour for such were not Bishops Contrarywise of a Bishop depriued which was Bishop in fact at the tyme of the letting confirmation made by the Deane and Chapter These were the Iudges words which are yet further strengthned by the case of Bishop Bonner who was certified into the Kings Bench by Doctour Horne supposed Bishop of Winchester for refusing the new oath appointed to ecclesiasticall persons by the statute of the first of Queene Elizabeth 1. Elizab. c. 1. vnto him offered in Southwarke in the Bishops howse there and his addition was Legum doctor in sacris or diuibus constitutus non clericus nec Episcopus And therefore the certificate was challenged sed non alocatur Also the sayd certificate was challenged for that the oath was sayd to be tendred vnto him by Robert Horne Bishop of Winchester who was no Bishop And Bonner was endited vpon this certificate in the County of Midlesex according to the Statute he pleaded thereunto not guilty And it was holden that the triall should not be made by a iury of Midlesex but by a Iurry of Surry and the venew of Southwarke c. It was also much debated amongst 6. 7 Eliz. Diar folio 234. al the Iustices in the Lord Catlins chamber if Bonner might giue in euidence vpon this issue not guilty that the said Bishop of VVinchester non fuit Episcopus tēpore oblationu Sacramenti and resolued by all that the verity and matter being so indeed he should be well receaued vpon this issue and that the Iury should trye it The triall was
can tell who checked and controlled who opposed themselues agaynst these mighty heretikes For Damasus the Pope with the first Constantinople Councell condemned Macedonius Georgius Theodo l. c. 11. Tom. 1. Concil f. 10. apud Binium Athana ad solita Nazian orat in liudem Athana Lucifer pro Atha l. 1. 2. Vide Eusebium libro 7. c. 23. 24. Iero. ep 61. Pamma Ruffin in explic sim Nazian in carm de vita sua who liued about the yeare of our Lord 380. Geiasi●● in decreto habito de Apochriphis Scripturis habetur apud Biniū tom 2. eōcil folio 264. They made that decree the yeare 494. Cappadox was resisted and impugned by Athanasius by S. Gregory Nazianzen by Lucifer Calaritanus Paulus Somasatenus by a Councell held at Antioch in the yeare of our Lord 274. Iohn the Patriarch of Ierusalem by S Ierome and S. Epiphanius Thus vnlesse you set downe the tyme the Pope the heresy by which the Apostolicall sea was defiled with superstition who they were that opposed agaynst it it is euident which Ruffinus writeth that in the Church of the Roman Citty no heresy euer began and the auncient custome is there obserued Euident which S. Gregory Naziazē testifyeth of his age That old Rome from aunciēt tymes hath the right sayth always keepeth it as it becometh the Citty which oueruleth the whole world always to belieue rightly in God Which Gelasius with 70. Bishops witnes for theirs That the chiefe seat of Peter the Apostle is the Romā Church not hauing any spot or wrincle or any such thinge Which Theodoret for his That this holy Sea holdeth the flerne of gouernement ouer all the Churches of the world as for other causes so for that it hath still remayned Theodoret epist ad Rena he wrote the yeare 450. ●oyde of the stench or ill sauour of heresy Which Iohn the Patriarch of Constantinople which Agatho which Regino which Rupertus affirme for theirs Iohn the Patriarch of Constantinople and second of that name saith In the Apostolicall Sea speaking of Peters the Catholike Religion Iohannes Constan 2. in epist ad Horm habetur Tō 2. concil about the yeare 517. is alwayes kept inuiolable Agatho you haue heard already Regino auerreth That the seate of Peter could neuer be entrapped by heresy or false doctrine Rupertus The Roman Church more strongly built v●on the rocke of Apostolicall sayth hath stood vnshaken and hath alwayes condemned the heresies both of the Greeke Church of all the world 12. Moreouer not only the ruines of these renowmed seas but the fall of euery particuler Church is registred Regino in 2. libro Chronico he wrote in the yeare 890. and diuulged by the watchmen of Gods house by the vigilancy of Catholike Pastours whose care and diligence to keepe the vnity of fayth inuiolable discouer the chaunges which might creep into all Cathedrall Seas hath beene such as besides the Sacrament of Ordination these cautions they vsed with euery new elected Bishop 1. He was wont to send cōmunicatory letters conteyning Rupertus libro 2. de diui offic c. 22. ●e liued about the yeare 1100. the profession of his fayth to all prouinces abroad especially to Rome which was called Synodicā dare as S. Cypriā mentioneth of himselfe of Sabinus a Spānish Bishop S. Ambrose likwise of his election The second was if any broke the line of succession or altered the traditiō of fayth the like notice was giuen of him as of Cerdon of Eutiches of Paulus Samosatenus and of certayne Nouatian See this more largely in Stapleton contro 1. q 4 or ● de principijs fidei doctrin Cyprian libro 4. ep 9. and lib. 1. ep 4. Ambro ep 82. Irenaeus libro ● c. 4. Leo ep 9. Euseb Phamphil l. 7. c. 24. Cyprianus l. 1. ep 3. 4. Leo epist 68. Sozom. l 7. c. 8. Theo. l. 5. histo eccles cap. 9. in epis Synodo Bishops mentioned by Irenaeus Leo Eusebius S. Cyprian The third was the confirmation of the Romā Bishop by whom the election of euery new Bishop was accustomed to be ratified and confirmed So Leo the great confirmed Proterius Patriarch of Alexandria Damasus confirmed Nectarius Patriarch of Constātinople Sop●o ad Honor. Honorius confirmed Sophronius Patriarch of Ierusalem The fourth was to matriculate as it were or enrole in the Church bookes or publike records the names of such as agreed with the rest in fayth profession thereby to commemorate or remember them in the tyme of the dreadfull sacrifice of the Masse which was in diptyro nomen habere and withall cancelling the memory or nams of such as dissēted from them in matters of fayth which Hormisda the Pope strictly commaunded to be put in Hormisd● in epist. decretal ad Episcopos Hispaniae And see Damasus in his epistle to the Easterne Bishops agaynst Apollinaris ● apud Theo. l. 5. c. 10. Greg. in Regist l. 4. ep 2. indic 2. Ibidem l. 4. ep 34. item libro 6. ep 64. Cyprian l. 1. ep 4. VVhitak contro 2. q. 5. c. 3. f. 312. Sparke in his ans to Mayster Iohn d'Albins an Epistle of his to the Bishops of Spayne All these cautions continued in the Church euen vntill the dayes of S. Gregory the great of which he in particuler maketh mention Therefore it was impossible that any one of vnknowne sayth as S. Cyprian teacheth should vsurpe an Episcopall Sea Impossible for any Bishop to stray from the auncient doctrine without publike notice taken of it Much more impossible for the Roman Bishop As impossible for the Roman Church which alwayes flourished in the view of the world And what can our Protestants deuise what colour haue they to imagine the contrary Whitaker Sparke and their sect-mates alleage that it decayed by little little by such flow and slily steps as it could hardly be perceaued 13. Well let it be that corruption stole thus secretly vpon some part or limme of the Church yet it could neuer grow ouer all the body without being marked by some or other at least when the chaunge or corruption came to be notorious When she first preached heresy supported idolatry When she first relinquished the communion of the true Church this must needs be noted chronicled And this is only that which we desire our aduersaryes to tell vs. We can tell them when all other scandalous and pernicious heresyes first beganne when Arianisme Nestorianisme Manichisme Pelagianisme Lutheranisme Caluinisme c. We can describe the places name the authours recount the vpholders supporters of those and the like blasphemous errours Theodoret reckoneth vp threescore and sixe Saint Augustine fourescore and eight which were before their dayes S. 〈…〉 haer fabu l. 3. Antoninus Guido Carmelita Alfonsus de Castro and Prateolus make mention of the rest euen to this present age Let Protestants performe the like of the superstitious Aug. l. de haeres ad Quod vult Deum