Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
cause_n bishop_n ecclesiastical_a prince_n 2,217 5 6.1118 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A16615 A myld and iust defence of certeyne arguments, at the last session of Parliament directed to that most Honorable High Court, in behalfe of the ministers suspended and deprived &c: for not subscribing and conforming themselues etc Against an intemperat and vniust consideration of them by M. Gabril Powell. The chiefe and generall contents wherof are breefely layd downe immediatly after the epistle. Bradshaw, William, 1571-1618. 1606 (1606) STC 3522; ESTC S104633 109,347 172

There are 3 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

england_n the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v judge_v and_o determine_v by_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n according_a to_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n etc_n 39_o fol._n 39_o and_o again_o observe_v good_a reader_n say_v s._n edward_n cook_n see_v that_o the_o determination_n of_o heresy_n etc_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o common_a law_n how_o necessary_a it_o be_v for_o administration_n of_o justice_n that_o his_o majesty_n progenitor_n king_n of_o this_o realm_n do_v by_o public_a authority_n authorise_v ecclesiastical_a court_n under_o they_o to_o determine_v those_o great_a and_o important_a cause_n etc_n by_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n the_o jurisdiction_n therefore_o court_n and_o law_n ecclesiastical_a in_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o king_n progenitor_n be_v think_v &_o hold_v to_o be_v their_o own_o kingly_a law_n court_n and_o jurisdiction_n the_o same_o be_v further_a prove_v by_o the_o say_v s._n edward_n cook_n 9_o fol._n 9_o by_o the_o precedent_n of_o renulphus_n in_o discharge_v and_o exempt_n the_o monastery_n and_o abbot_n of_o abinden_n from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o grant_v also_o to_o the_o say_a abbot_n ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n etc_fw-la by_o the_o precedent_n of_o william_n the_o first_o 11_o fol_z 10._o 11_o who_o make_v inpropriation_n of_o church_n with_o cure_n to_o ecclesiastical_a person_n etc_n and_o by_o divers_a precedent_n of_o other_o king_n since_o the_o conquest_n that_o which_o in_o this_o part_n of_o the_o answer_n be_v afterward_o add_v of_o the_o necessary_a restitution_n of_o the_o right_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n to_o the_o crown_n be_v also_o confute_v by_o the_o same_o s._n edward_n cook_n who_o plain_o say_v that_o though_o there_o have_v be_v no_o such_o law_n of_o restitution_n make_v yet_o it_o be_v resolve_v by_o all_o the_o judge_n that_o the_o king_n and_o queen_n of_o england_n for_o the_o time_n be_v by_o the_o ancient_a prerogative_n law_n of_o england_n may_v make_v such_o a_o commission_n etc_n and_o therefore_o by_o the_o ancient_a law_n of_o this_o realm_n this_o kingdom_n of_o england_n be_v and_o absolute_a empire_n and_o monarchy_n consist_v of_o one_o head_n which_o be_v the_o king_n and_o of_o a_o body_n politic_a etc._n etc._n also_o that_o the_o kingly_a head_n of_o this_o body_n politic_a be_v furnish_v with_o plenary_a power_n etc._n etc._n to_o render_v justice_n and_o right_n to_o every_o part_n and_o member_n of_o this_o body_n thus_o far_o s._n edward_n cook_n from_o all_o which_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o restitution_n of_o the_o ancient_a right_n howsoever_o lawful_o make_v as_o be_v make_v by_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o kingdom_n be_v notwithstanding_o not_o necessary_o make_v as_o though_o without_o it_o the_o king_n or_o queen_n for_o the_o time_n be_v can_v not_o have_v use_v their_o ancient_a right_n that_o which_o follow_v in_o the_o 2._o 3._o and_o 4._o branch_n of_o this_o 4_o answer_n to_o the_o consequence_n of_o this_o 8_o argument_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o the_o matter_n because_o it_o do_v nothing_o justify_v the_o proceed_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o other_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n in_o deprive_v of_o the_o minister_n plead_v for_o in_o such_o manner_n and_o for_o such_o cause_n as_o for_o which_o they_o have_v deprivede_v they_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n do_v be_v long_o under_o the_o king_n unto_o the_o ordinary_n nor_o whether_o the_o ordinary_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o king_n jurisdiction_n ecclesiiasticall_a and_o consistoriall_a trial_n aught_o to_o proceed_v by_o virtue_n of_o peer_n etc_fw-la but_o whether_o some_o ordinary_n exercise_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n have_v proceed_v in_o their_o ecclesiastical_a consistory_n against_o some_o minister_n without_o authority_n of_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n &_o therefore_o in_o that_o respect_n contrary_a to_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la which_o require_v nothing_o to_o be_v do_v without_o the_o king_n law_n further_o 9_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la regis_fw-la ecclesi_n fol._n 9_o although_o we_o grant_v as_o s._n edw._n cook_n instruct_v we_o all_o law_n ecclesiastical_a derive_v from_o other_o which_o by_o and_o with_o a_o general_a consent_n be_v approve_v and_o allow_v here_o to_o be_v apt_o and_o right_o call_v the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n of_o england_n yet_o i_o deny_v that_o all_o law_n ecclesiastical_a derive_v by_o the_o king_n progenitor_n either_o before_o or_o since_o the_o conquest_n from_o other_o be_v now_o in_o this_o age_n our_o sovereign_a lord_n king_n james_n his_o ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o therefore_o howsoever_o many_o judicial_a act_n of_o deprivation_n of_o bishop_n &_o priest_n from_o their_o benefice_n &c._n &c._n according_a to_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n which_o be_v call_v ius_fw-la pontificium_fw-la &_o which_o be_v derive_v by_o the_o king_n progenitor_n from_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n either_o before_o or_o since_o the_o conquest_n unto_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la and_o since_o that_o to_o the_o 25_o of_o king_n henry_n the_o eight_o be_v never_o all_o hold_v to_o be_v contrary_a but_o be_v ever_o all_o hold_v to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o law_n of_o this_o kingdom_n yet_o notwithstanding_o i_o affirm_v that_o all_o judicial_a act_n and_o sentence_n 17_o 25._o hen._n 8_o cap._n 17_o how_o many_o soever_o of_o deprivation_n of_o minister_n from_o their_o benefice_n have_v make_v and_o give_v by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n since_o the_o 25._o of_o king_n henry_n the_o 8._o only_a according_a or_o only_o by_o force_n and_o virtue_n of_o the_o say_v ius_fw-la pontificium_fw-la or_o bishop_n of_o rome_n his_o law_n the_o sentence_n give_v in_o the_o time_n of_o queen_n mary_n except_v be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v hold_v not_o to_o be_v have_v make_v &_o give_v by_o the_o law_n of_o this_o kingdom_n or_o by_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n and_o why_o even_o because_o the_o whole_a ius_fw-la pontificium_fw-la or_o bishop_n of_o rome_n law_n be_v altogether_o except_v the_o time_n of_o queen_n mary_n abrogate_a adnul_v and_o make_v void_a by_o a_o act_n of_o parliament_n and_o consequent_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a alien_n foreign_a and_o strange_a law_n and_o no_o municipal_a law_n of_o england_n and_o therefore_o not_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a law_n wherefore_o our_o sovereign_a lord_n king_n james_n by_o this_o grant_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la make_v by_o his_o progenitor_n be_v oblige_v to_o suffer_v no_o free_a man_n of_o the_o realm_n to_o be_v take_v or_o imprison_v or_o disseiss_v of_o his_o frrehold_n or_o liberty_n etc._n etc._n nor_o to_o pass_v upon_o he_o nor_o condemn_v he_o but_o by_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o his_o peer_n or_o by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n we_o again_o assume_v from_o this_o statute_n of_o the_o great_a charter_n that_o sundry_a sentence_n of_o deprivation_n of_o minister_n from_o their_o benefice_n for_o cause_n before_o specify_v be_v unlawful_a because_o such_o minister_n have_v be_v condemn_v and_o judgement_n have_v be_v pass_v upon_o they_o without_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o their_o peer_n or_o law_n ecclesiastical_a of_o the_o land_n for_o here_o we_o must_v give_v the_o answerer_n to_o wit_n by_o these_o word_n or_o law_n of_o the_o land_n that_o all_o the_o king_n law_n of_o what_o nature_n or_o quality_n soever_o whether_o ecclesiastical_a or_o temporal_a and_o not_o only_o the_o law_n temporal_a as_o he_o insinuate_v be_v include_v as_o therefore_o no_o temporal_a free_a man_n of_o the_o realm_n may_v be_v condemn_v pass_v upon_o or_o disseiss_v of_o his_o liberty_n and_o freehold_n etc._n etc._n in_o a_o temporal_a cause_n and_o in_o a_o temporal_a court_n without_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o his_o peer_n or_o temporal_a law_n of_o the_o land_n even_o so_o likewise_o no_o ecclesiastical_a person_n be_v a_o freeman_n of_o the_o realm_n may_v be_v condemn_v pass_v upon_o or_o disseiss_v of_o his_o liberty_n or_o frehold_v but_o by_o lawful_a ecclesiastical_a judgement_n according_a to_o the_o law_n ecclesiastical_a of_o the_o land_n and_o hereupon_o we_o grant_v if_o the_o king_n have_v any_o law_n ecclesiastical_a of_o the_o land_n for_o the_o deprivation_n of_o a_o minister_n from_o his_o liberty_n and_o frehold_v for_o not_o subscription_n perjury_n contempt_n of_o canonical_a so_o call_v obedience_n omission_n of_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n not_o precise_a observation_n of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n etc._n etc._n then_o we_o grant_v that_o the_o ordinary_n be_v the_o king_n judge_n ecclesiastical_a may_v right_o deprive_v a_o minister_n from_o his_o benefice_n for_o these_o offence_n and_o yet_o still_o we_o deny_v and_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o maintain_v that_o sundry_a sentence_n of_o deprivation_n make_v and_o give_v by_o sundry_a ordinary_n against_o sundry_a minister_n be_v either_o unjust_a or_o unlawful_a or_o no_o sentence_n at_o
they_o and_o be_v pray_v for_o they_o be_v there_o not_o by_o all_o author_n a_o difference_n make_v betwixt_o simulare_fw-la and_o di●simulare_fw-la that_o the_o one_o may_v be_v use_v in_o godly_a policy_n and_o christian_n wisdom_n but_o that_o the_o other_o be_v always_o of_o the_o flesh_n fleshly_a in_o allegation_n of_o example_n every_o particular_a be_v not_o nice_o and_o strict_o to_o be_v respect_v but_o that_o point_n only_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v for_o which_o they_o be_v produce_v and_o whereto_o they_o be_v apply_v otherwise_o from_o the_o application_n of_o david_n eat_v of_o the_o show_n bread_n unto_o the_o disciple_n pluck_v the_o ear_n of_o corn_n to_o eat_v math._n 12.3_o a_o man_n may_v gather_v that_o because_o david_n use_v lie_v as_o a_o mean_n to_o obtain_v the_o sheew_a bread_n at_o the_o priest_n hand_n therefore_o also_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o we_o by_o lie_v to_o obtain_v some_o thing_n in_o our_o necessity_n by_o the_o same_o reason_n also_o because_o the_o midwife_n of_o egypt_n be_v commend_v to_o fear_v the_o lord_n etc_n and_o to_o have_v spare_v the_o male_a child_n of_o the_o israelit_n the_o same_o fault_n of_o lie_v may_v be_v justify_v because_o they_o be_v examine_v by_o pharaoh_n of_o that_o their_o do_v excuse_v themselves_o by_o a_o lie_n the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v of_o rahab_n commend_v for_o her_o faith_n in_o save_v the_o israelit_v spy_n heb._n 11.31_o though_o she_o defend_v herself_o from_o the_o inquisitor_n of_o the_o king_n of_o jericho_n by_o a_o lie_n jos_n 2.4_o if_o the_o example_n of_o constantius_n and_o jehu_n may_v for_o some_o thing_n be_v except_v against_o yet_o it_o may_v have_v be_v consider_v that_o the_o author_n to_o express_v his_o general_a meaning_n the_o better_a do_v mention_v also_o the_o example_n of_o joseph_n and_o of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n jesus_n against_o who_o there_o can_v be_v no_o exception_n and_o now_o to_o clear_v his_o meaning_n the_o better_a let_v the_o example_n of_o solomon_n in_o that_o wherein_o he_o be_v so_o high_o commend_v be_v also_o remember_v who_o to_o try_v whither_o of_o the_o two_o woman_n be_v the_o mother_n of_o the_o live_a child_n command_v the_o lyve_v child_n to_o be_v divide_v in_o twane_n and_o the_o one_o half_a to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o one_o woman_n the_o other_o half_o to_o the_o other_o woman_n 1_o king_n 3.25_o here_o be_v a_o manifest_a pretence_n of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o intend_v let_v the_o answerer_n therefore_o learn_v that_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o pretend_v only_o for_o trial_n of_o the_o affection_n of_o other_o and_o deep_a dissemble_n or_o jesuitecall_v equivocate_a for_o the_o hide_v or_o maynteyn_v of_o some_o impiety_n and_o wickedness_n i_o doubt_v not_o therefore_o but_o i_o may_v justify_v the_o author_n from_o all_o such_o thing_n as_o by_o allegation_n of_o the_o example_n of_o constantius_n &_o jehu_n be_v most_o uncharitable_o impute_v unto_o he_o yea_o that_o also_o i_o may_v true_o affirm_v his_o meaning_n in_o they_o to_o have_v be_v only_o to_o show_v that_o he_o conceive_v of_o his_o majesty_n meaning_n that_o which_o he_o be_v persuade_v to_o be_v best_a therefore_o far_o be_v he_o from_o all_o undutiful_a conceit_n against_o his_o majesty_n it_o be_v also_o to_o be_v observe_v that_o he_o do_v not_o absolute_o say_v this_o or_o that_o to_o be_v his_o majesty_n meaning_n but_o only_o that_o it_o may_v be_v like_a to_o the_o meaning_n of_o constantius_n jehu_n joseph_n and_o our_o saviour_n for_o aught_o that_o any_o man_n else_o do_v know_v if_o it_o be_v otherwise_o god_n will_v be_v do_v and_o i_o hope_v that_o whatsoever_o some_o do_v imagine_v of_o such_o as_o be_v silence_v and_o deprive_v that_o upon_o sight_n of_o his_o majesty_n full_a resolution_n for_o the_o countenance_a and_o authorise_v of_o the_o bishop_n to_o hold_v on_o their_o course_n against_o we_o than_o many_o will_v yield_v etc_o yet_o it_o shall_v well_o appear_v that_o we_o have_v not_o depend_v upon_o any_o other_o then_o upon_o god_n alone_o and_o that_o that_o which_o we_o have_v do_v be_v not_o do_v upon_o any_o vain_a hope_n or_o expectation_n but_o in_o conscience_n of_o that_o word_n which_o be_v our_o only_a rule_n and_o canon_n whereby_o to_o live_v and_o whereby_o to_o die_v touch_v the_o answerer_n wish_v that_o some_o of_o our_o faction_n as_o he_o unbrother_o speak_v do_v so_o little_a practice_n equivocate_a as_o his_o majesty_n abhor_v it_o either_o let_v he_o name_v such_o if_o he_o know_v any_o and_o let_v they_o bear_v their_o iniquity_n or_o else_o let_v he_o spare_v such_o wish_n as_o whereby_o he_o impli_v a_o secret_a accusation_n powel_n g._n powel_n whereas_o his_o highness_n heart_n be_v evident_o discern_v to_o be_v full_o season_v with_o true_a piety_n etc_n answer_v answer_v though_o flatery_a be_v odious_a and_o the_o wage_n thereof_o fearful_a yet_o if_o his_o majesty_n or_o any_o other_o do_v well_o consider_v the_o best_a fruit_n of_o a_o true_a heart_n our_o love_n and_o loyalty_n towards_o his_o majesty_n shall_v be_v sound_a as_o good_a as_o the_o best_a prelate_n in_o the_o land_n powel_n g._n powel_n it_o suffice_v i_o to_o have_v detect_v the_o licence_n of_o their_o rave_a pen_n the_o restraint_n of_o which_o fury_n special_o belong_v to_o your_o honourable_a &_o judicious_a court_n answer_n answer_n o_o m._n powell_n you_o do_v to_o much_o forget_v modesty_n whither_o pen_n rave_v most_o you_o or_o the_o author_n or_o whither_o he_o or_o you_o i_o will_v not_o say_v you_o though_o you_o write_v by_o authority_n of_o some_o other_o be_v in_o most_o fury_n let_v that_o honourable_a and_o judicious_a court_n judge_n yea_o if_o it_o may_v please_v his_o majesty_n to_o vouchsafe_v the_o read_n of_o the_o wrighting_n and_o in_o his_o princely_a wisdom_n to_o consider_v the_o deal_n on_o both_o side_n we_o will_v not_o fear_v his_o royal_a judgement_n concern_v our_o cause_n or_o ourselves_o we_o fear_v the_o judgement_n of_o one_o lordly_a bishop_n ten_o time_n more_o than_o the_o judgement_n of_o ten_o such_o religious_a prince_n for_o we_o assure_v ourselves_o of_o more_o equity_n from_o his_o majesty_n than_o we_o do_v from_o all_o lordly_a bishop_n in_o the_o land_n powel_n g._n powel_n which_o your_o honour_n will_v the_o rather_o perform_v consider_v what_o unchristian_a conceit_n they_o have_v of_o this_o honourable_a assembly_n and_o of_o all_o other_o his_o majesty_n love_a subject_n who_o loyal_o obey_v he_o and_o serve_v god_n according_a to_o the_o religion_n establish_v resemble_v they_o to_o constantius_n his_o noble_n who_o become_v idolater_n and_o atheist_n upon_o his_o commandment_n as_o before_o we_o have_v see_v how_o untrue_o the_o answerer_n make_v this_o note_n upon_o the_o author_n conclusion_n answer_n answer_n with_o the_o letter_n e_o a_o unjust_a calumni_fw-la pag_n 77._o in_o as_o much_o as_o he_o have_v accuse_v the_o author_n before_o of_o bold_a presumptuous_a and_o unduetifull_a censure_v of_o his_o majesty_n etc_n thereby_o to_o provoke_v his_o majesty_n heavy_a indignation_n against_o we_o all_o contrariety_n contrariety_n so_o now_o contrary_a to_o the_o same_o note_n he_o accuse_v we_o also_o before_o the_o noble_n yea_o before_o all_o the_o state_n of_o the_o whole_a kingdom_n doeht_v this_o man_n spare_v we_o as_o he_o profess_v to_o do_v in_o his_o second_o note_n upon_o the_o 4_o argument_n touch_v the_o matter_n here_o object_v it_o be_v partly_o answer_v before_o the_o author_n intent_n and_o purpose_n be_v only_o to_o persuade_v all_o his_o majesty_n christian_n have_v to_o think_v honourable_o of_o his_o highness_n and_o not_o to_o judge_v he_o by_o outward_a suppose_a apparence_n therwas_n nothing_o to_o insinuate_v any_o such_o unchristian_a censure_n of_o this_o honourable_a assembly_n and_o of_o other_o love_a subject_n as_o this_o wranglinge_v answerer_n will_v wrest_v from_o the_o author_n word_n the_o matter_n in_o question_n concern_v only_o or_o special_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n the_o thing_n also_o command_v by_o his_o majesty_n be_v nothing_o like_o to_o the_o thing_n command_v by_o constantius_n how_o injurous_a therefore_o it_o be_v to_o conclude_v the_o same_o sin_n to_o be_v of_o they_o that_o obey_v his_o majesty_n in_o the_o thing_n now_o command_v that_o be_v in_o those_o that_o obey_v constantius_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o all_o reasonable_a man_n the_o fallacy_n of_o this_o collection_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o difference_n both_o of_o thing_n and_o also_o of_o person_n command_v i_o leave_v to_o the_o sentence_n of_o they_o that_o be_v as_o skilful_a in_o aristotle_n his_o elench_n as_o m._n powell_n seem_v to_o be_v the_o childish_a accusation_n of_o the_o author_n from_o the_o 8_o argument_n here_o insert_v
and_o hold_n of_o the_o devil_n may_v be_v the_o truth_n in_o part_n but_o yet_o they_o be_v in_o the_o place_n allege_v call_v the_o charet_n and_o horseman_n of_o israel_n not_o of_o the_o saint_n and_o most_o of_o the_o israelit_v be_v then_o wicked_a and_o these_o title_n be_v acknowledge_v of_o elisha_n by_o a_o wicked_a king_n that_o respect_v not_o the_o gather_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o the_o outward_a defence_n of_o his_o kingdom_n by_o the_o prayer_n and_o preach_v of_o elisha_n it_o can_v be_v the_o whole_a truth_n that_o we_o be_v such_o sore_n as_o the_o answerer_n speak_v of_o be_v not_o prove_v indeed_o some_o conformitan_n so_o account_v we_o because_o we_o rub_v their_o sore_n so_o much_o and_o desire_v so_o earnest_o the_o heal_n of_o they_o that_o so_o their_o soul_n may_v be_v the_o better_o save_v we_o be_v also_o eyesore_n to_o they_o but_o sure_o i_o be_o that_o we_o be_v not_o so_o to_o the_o godly_a many_o of_o who_o sore_n god_n have_v cure_v by_o we_o and_o to_o who_o our_o ministry_n have_v be_v the_o savour_n of_o life_n unto_o life_n other_o thing_n in_o this_o argument_n have_v receive_v their_o reply_n the_o 8_o argument_n the_o proceed_n of_o the_o bishop_n &_o other_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n against_o the_o minister_n in_o silence_v and_o deprive_v of_o they_o be_v against_o the_o law_n ergo._n this_o high_a court_n of_o parliament_n be_v the_o chief_a court_n of_o justice_n in_o all_o this_o kingdom_n aught_o to_o relieve_v they_o the_o marginal_a note_n upon_o the_o 8_o argument_n the_o first_o 3_o note_n i_o pass_v by_o as_o note-les_a powel_n g._n powel_n d_o object_n against_o these_o and_o you_o shall_v be_v answer_v how_o shall_v we_o be_v answer_v with_o word_n and_o railing_n reply_n reply_n as_o before_o not_o otherwise_o to_o the_o oath_n ex_fw-la officio_fw-la and_o to_o the_o canon_n afterward_o powel_n g._n powel_n a_o these_o man_n will_v bring_v in_o all_o by_o popular_a trial_n nay_o rather_o reply_n reply_n will_v not_o the_o prelate_n be_v glad_a to_o have_v all_o person_n and_o all_o cause_n subject_a to_o themselves_o but_o more_o to_o this_o afterward_o powel_n g._n powel_n b_o a_o senseless_a sentence_n how_o can_v a_o man_n in_o matter_n of_o eternal_a life_n be_v cast_v out_o of_o his_o freehold_n reply_n reply_n a_o simple_a cavil_n from_o the_o misplace_n of_o a_o comma_n the_o notary_n may_v well_o have_v perceive_v that_o these_o word_n in_o matter_n of_o eternal_a life_n be_v to_o be_v join_v with_o the_o word_n go_v before_o ambassador_n of_o jesus_n christ_n not_o with_o the_o word_n follow_v shall_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o their_o freehold_n this_o i_o say_v he_o may_v well_o have_v perceive_v because_o there_o have_v be_v no_o speech_n of_o our_o freehold_n of_o eternal_a life_n but_o only_o of_o this_o life_n powel_n g._n powel_n c_o the_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n may_v proceed_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la d_o direct_o against_o the_o statute_n 1_o elizab_n cap_n 2_o reply_n reply_n these_o two_o note_n be_v in_o the_o margin_n contiguoe_v and_o touch_v one_o another_o i_o join_v together_o in_o my_o reply_n the_o rather_o because_o d_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o second_o note_n and_o the_o mention_n of_o the_o statute_n in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o say_v second_o note_v omit_v they_o may_v both_o in_o better_a sense_n and_o truth_n be_v read_v thus_o together_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n may_v proceed_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la direct_o against_o the_o statute_n for_o touch_v the_o former_a note_n with_o c_o let_v the_o best_a civilian_n show_n if_o he_o can_v by_o what_o other_o law_n the_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n may_v proceed_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la then_o by_o the_o canon_n law_n abolish_v by_o statute_n the_o second_o note_n with_o d_o shall_v be_v satisfy_v afterward_o the_o note_n with_o e_z of_o beg_v the_o question_n be_v now_o too_o stale_a powel_n g._n powel_n f_o as_o if_o god_n and_o his_o son_n christ_n jesus_n be_v not_o precedent_n of_o the_o religious_a assembly_n already_o a_o unchristian_a suggestion_n reply_n reply_n when_o the_o prophet_n exhort_v the_o church_n to_o open_v her_o door_n for_o the_o king_n of_o glory_n to_o come_v in_o 2_o psal_n 24_o 7_o 9_o cant_n 5_o 2_o do_v he_o signify_v that_o the_o church_n have_v not_o before_o interteyn_v the_o king_n of_o glory_n when_o christ_n say_v open_v unto_o i_o my_o sister_n etc_o do_v he_o mean_v that_o his_o sister_n have_v he_o not_o at_o all_o before_o christ_n daily_o knock_v by_o his_o word_n and_o sacrament_n 3.20_o revel_v 3.20_o at_o the_o heart_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a to_o be_v let_v in_o be_v they_o therefore_o altogether_o without_o christ_n although_o therefore_o christ_n be_v already_o precedent_n in_o the_o parliament_n yet_o by_o the_o propound_v of_o any_o good_a cause_n he_o desire_v to_o be_v further_o interteyn_v among_o they_o this_o the_o author_n have_v acknowledge_v by_o call_v they_o often_o a_o christian_a assembly_n by_o commend_v their_o christian_a zeal_n against_o the_o papist_n etc_o but_o this_o be_v the_o answerers_n sophistry_n before_o note_v sophistry_n sophistry_n to_o reason_n from_o the_o want_n of_o a_o thing_n in_o part_n to_o the_o want_n thereof_o altogether_o therefore_o this_o be_v a_o unchristian_a and_o simple_a collection_n further_o answer_v to_o the_o 8_o argument_n powel_n g._n powel_n i_o be_o constrain_v to_o dance_v as_o the_o suppliant_n pipe_n they_o lead_v and_o i_o follow_v nay_o we_o have_v pipe_v unto_o you_o and_o you_o have_v not_o dance_v reply_n reply_n we_o have_v mourn_v unto_o you_o and_o you_o have_v not_o lament_v 11.19_o mat_n 11.19_o neither_o to_o evident_a argument_n out_o of_o holy_a scripture_n will_v you_o submit_v your_o human_a ordinance_n or_o yourselves_o neither_o by_o any_o gentle_a and_o humble_a petition_n will_v you_o prelate_n come_v to_o any_o brotherly_a peace_n mildness_n do_v as_o much_o provoke_v you_o as_o bitterness_n m._n nichols_n of_o kent_n write_v most_o mild_o and_o humble_o be_v reward_v severe_o with_o suspension_n deprivation_n degradation_n our_o most_o humble_a petition_n to_o the_o convocation_n at_o the_o first_o session_n of_o this_o parliament_n receive_v a_o most_o rough_a answer_n we_o seek_v peace_n and_o when_o we_o speak_v thereof_o you_o be_v bend_v to_o war_n 8._o psal_n 120_o 7._o job._n 31_o 8._o as_o though_o you_o sit_v in_o heavenly_a place_n we_o have_v be_v unto_o you_o more_o vile_a than_o the_o earth_n i_o complain_v not_o thus_o of_o all_o the_o prelate_n i_o know_v that_o some_o be_v wise_a mild_a kind_a and_o more_o courteous_a they_o other_o as_o the_o bramble_n take_v more_o upon_o it_o than_o the_o olive_n tree_n 8.15_o judg._n 8.15_o the_o vine_n or_o the_o fig_n tree_n so_o sometime_o it_o be_v among_o prelate_n powel_n g._n powel_n hitherto_o they_o pray_v your_o honour_n but_o to_o speak_v for_o they_o etc_o now_o they_o urge_v you_o to_o determine_v and_o actual_o to_o decree_v something_o in_o their_o behalf_n we_o neither_o pray_v nor_o urge_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v do_v but_o with_o all_o humility_n and_o loyalty_n powel_n g._n powel_n hope_v that_o his_o most_o excellent_a majesty_n upon_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o reason_n why_o they_o have_v decree_v or_o determine_v any_o thing_n so_o far_o as_o they_o may_v among_o themselves_o will_v likewise_o in_o his_o princely_a and_o christian_n regard_n have_v vouchafe_v his_o royal_a assent_n to_o their_o such_o decree_n and_o determination_n which_o although_o it_o have_v not_o please_v his_o highness_n yet_o to_o do_v yet_o we_o hope_v that_o hereafter_o upon_o further_a consideration_n some_o other_o may_v find_v further_a grace_n with_o his_o majesty_n in_o the_o like_a behalf_n powel_n g._n powel_n to_o the_o consequence_n of_o the_o former_a argument_n the_o consequence_n have_v 2_o part_n whereof_o the_o first_o be_v grant_v but_o that_o the_o deprive_v and_o suspend_v minister_n ought_v to_o be_v restore_v be_v deny_v because_o they_o have_v not_o justify_v their_o cause_n and_o declare_v that_o they_o be_v unjust_o oppress_v nor_o can_v ever_o do_v reply_n reply_n touch_v the_o former_a answer_n may_v it_o please_v the_o reader_n first_o to_o remember_v that_o all_o the_o author_n speech_n of_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o bishop_n against_o minister_n suspend_v etc_fw-la be_v only_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o such_o minister_n as_o who_o they_o suspend_v and_o deprive_v only_o for_o such_o cause_n as_o be_v mention_v in_o the_o title_n of_o the_o argument_n not_o of_o other_o who_o they_o suspend_v or_o deprive_v for_o any_o just_a cause_n now_o to_o proceed_v that_o such_o minister_n have_v not_o yet_o in_o law_n whereof_o the_o present_a question_n be_v justify_v there_o cause_n and_o declare_v that_o they_o be_v unjust_o oppress_v nor_o can_v ever_o do_v be_v not_o