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A04779 The right and iurisdiction of the prelate, and the prince. Or, A treatise of ecclesiasticall, and regall authoritie. Compyled by I.E. student in diuinitie for the ful instruction and appeaceme[n]t of the consciences of English Catholikes, co[n]cerning the late oath of pretended allegeance. Togeather with a cleare & ample declaratio[n], of euery clause thereof, newlie reuewed and augmented by the authoure Kellison, Matthew. 1621 (1621) STC 14911; ESTC S107942 213,012 425

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independent_a rock_n nor_o to_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n as_o our_o adversary_n will_v have_v it_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v say_v and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n because_o the_o relative_n this_o have_v relation_n to_o he_o that_o be_v speak_v of_o immediate_o before_o which_o be_v only_a peter_n not_o christ_n nor_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o the_o rock_n and_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n and_o head_n be_v all_o one_o it_o follow_v that_o peter_n and_o consequent_o the_o pope_n his_o successor_n for_o the_o church_n after_o peter_n time_n have_v as_o much_o need_n or_o rather_o more_o of_o a_o head_n and_o pastor_n as_o in_o peter_n time_n and_o none_o ever_o practise_v authority_n over_o all_o the_o church_n but_o the_o pope_n as_o all_o counsel_n and_o history_n do_v witness_n be_v the_o supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o not_o every_o king_n no_o not_o any_o king_n in_o his_o kingdom_n apostle_n prophet_n evangelist_n pastor_n and_o doctor_n only_o christ_n give_v to_o govern_v his_o church_n as_o s._n paul_n say_v not_o prince_n 18_o ephes_n 4._o mat._n 18_o to_o apostle_n it_o be_v say_v what_o soever_o you_o shall_v bind_v upon_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v also_o in_o heaven_n and_o what_o soeev_a you_o shall_v loose_v upon_o earth_n shall_v be_v also_o loose_v in_o heaven_n 20_o joan._n 20_o never_o to_o prince_n to_o apostle_n it_o be_v say_v who_o sin_n you_o shall_v forgive_v they_o be_v forgive_v they_o and_o who_o you_o shall_v retain_v they_o be_v retain_v never_o to_o prince_n of_o bishop_n and_o priest_n it_o be_v say_v 13._o neb._n 13._o obey_v your_o prelate_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o they_o for_o they_o watch_v as_o be_v to_o render_v account_n for_o your_o soul_n of_o prince_n never_o rather_o they_o by_o these_o word_n be_v command_v also_o to_o obey_v 20._o act._n 20._o to_z bishop_n it_o be_v say_v take_v heed●_n to_o yourselves_o and_o the_o whole_a flock_n wherein_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v place_v you_o bishop_n to_o rule_v the_o church_n which_o he_o have_v purchase_v with_o his_o own_o blood_n to_o prince_n never_o to_o a_o bishop_n it_o be_v say_v 1._o tit._n 1._o for_o this_o cause_n i_o leave_v thou_o in_o crete_n that_o thou_o thould_v reform_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v want_v and_o thould_v order_v priest_n by_o city_n as_o i_o also_o appoint_v thou_o to_o prince_n never_o 4._o i_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o prince_n be_v to_o assist_v the_o church_n by_o sword_n sceptre_n and_o power_n and_o to_o punish_v at_o the_o church_n direction_n not_o only_o thief_n and_o murderer_n but_o also_o heretic_n as_o constantine_n and_o other_o emperor_n do_v i_o grant_v that_o they_o be_v nource_v father_n 49._o isay_n 49._o but_o no_o superior_n to_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o if_o we_o read_v over_o both_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n we_o shall_v never_o find_v that_o any_o king_n as_o king_n meddle_v in_o the_o government_n of_o ecclesiastical_a person_n and_o matter_n 5._o bilson_n when_o he_o be_v wardon_n of_o winchester_n write_v a_o book_n call_v the_o true_a difference_n betwixt_o christian_a subjection_n and_o unchristian_a rebellion_n in_o which_o he_o strive_v but_o in_o vain_a to_o prove_v that_o the_o prince_n have_v supreme_a authority_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o prove_v this_o he_o cit_v nabuchodonosor_n darius_n 191_o par._n 2._o pag._n 191_o the_o king_n of_o ninive_n moses_n josue_n david_n solomon_n asa_n josaphat_n ezechias_n manasses_n josias_n and_o nehemias_n as_o though_o they_o have_v govern_v the_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n of_o the_o synagogue_n 363._o in_o tortura_fw-la torti_n pa._n 363._o so_o do_v also_o d._n andrew_n but_o if_o i_o shall_v grant_v they_o that_o all_o these_o be_v by_o god_n appoint_v ruler_n of_o
he_o may_v make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n propose_v the_o word_n of_o god_n by_o preach_v and_o true_a interpretation_n of_o it_o in_o counsel_n separate_a heretic_n from_o the_o sheepefould_a by_o excommunication_n lest_o they_o pervert_v other_o yea_o if_o the_o prince_n be_v supreme_a head_n of_o the_o church_n all_o authority_n of_o preach_v administration_n of_o sacrament_n call_v counsel_n judge_v and_o define_v in_o they_o collation_n of_o benefice_n give_v of_o order_n jurisdiction_n absolve_a dispense_n excommunicate_v proceed_v from_o he_o wherefore_o king_n henry_n the_o eight_o as_o he_o challenge_v the_o title_n of_o supreme_a head_n so_o he_o challenge_v almost_o all_o this_o authority_n as_o we_o have_v see_v and_o to_o queen_n elizabeth_z in_o the_o first_o parliament_n and_o first_o year_n of_o her_o reign_n the_o like_a authority_n be_v grant_v statute_n vide_fw-la saunder_n de_fw-fr schis_n angl._n fol._n 149.150.151_o see_v also_o poultons_n abbridgement_n of_o the_o statute_n for_o in_o that_o parliament_n it_o be_v decree_v that_o she_o her_o heir_n and_o successor_n shall_v have_v all_o privilege_n preeminence_n prerogative_n and_o spiritual_a superiority_n which_o may_v be_v exercise_v or_o have_v of_o any_o power_n or_o man_n ecclesiastical_a that_o she_o and_o her_o successor_n shall_v have_v all_o power_n of_o nominate_v and_o substitute_v who_o she_o will_v to_o correct_v heresy_n schism_n abuse_n and_o to_o use_v all_o authority_n which_o a_o ecclesiastical_a magistrate_n may_v do_v there_o also_o it_o be_v decree_v that_o no_o synod_n shall_v be_v call_v but_o by_o the_o prince_n letter_n and_o commandment_n and_o that_o a_o bishop_n shall_v not_o be_v nominate_v or_o elect_v by_o any_o other_o than_o the_o prince_n authority_n nor_o shall_v exercise_v any_o jurisdiction_n but_o at_o the_o queen_n pleasure_n nor_o otherwise_o then_o by_o authority_n from_o her_o regal_a majesty_n and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o prince_n write_v to_o the_o archbishop_n in_o this_o manner_n for_o as_o much_o as_o all_o jurisdiction_n as_o well_o ecclesiastical_a as_o secular_a proceed_v from_o kingly_a power_n as_o from_o the_o head_n we_o give_v thou_o power_n to_o promote_v by_o these_o present_n to_o holy_a order_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n use_v this_o stile_n we_o n._n by_o the_o divine_a permission_n archbishop_n and_o primate_n of_o england_n authorize_v sufficient_o by_o the_o king_n or_o queen_n majesty_n etc._n etc._n this_o argue_v that_o in_o england_n all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n to_o excommunicare_fw-la absolve_v to_o preach_v and_o minister_v sacrament_n to_o call_v synod_n to_o decree_v in_o they_o to_o make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n etc._n etc._n proceed_v from_o the_o prince_n as_o from_o the_o head_n and_o fountain_n and_o consequent_o see_v that_o what_o authority_n the_o prince_n give_v to_o other_o he_o have_v himself_o he_o may_v excommunicate_v make_v ecclesiastical_a law_n call_v counsel_n sit_v as_o supreme_a judge_n in_o they_o as_o other_o by_o his_o authority_n do_v and_o see_v he_o can_v give_v to_o other_o jurisdiction_n to_o give_v order_n he_o may_v also_o minister_v sacrament_n preach_v and_o teach_v for_o this_o authority_n he_o give_v to_o other_o and_o therefore_o as_o in_o all_o common_a wealth_n the_o prince_n can_v do_v those_o thing_n which_o his_o inferior_a officer_n do_v though_o it_o be_v not_o always_o so_o convenient_a so_o if_o all_o ecclesiastical_a power_n proceed_v from_o the_o king_n as_o from_o the_o head_n and_o fountain_n look_v what_o the_o bishop_n and_o minister_n can_v do_v by_o authority_n receive_v from_o he_o that_o he_o also_o himself_o may_v do_v which_o yet_o be_v so_o ridiculous_a that_o our_o prince_n hitherto_o have_v be_v ashamed_a of_o many_o of_o those_o office_n and_o as_o we_o shall_v see_v anon_o even_o the_o protestant_n of_o england_n when_o they_o be_v press_v be_v ashamed_a of_o this_o monstrous_a authority_n 14._o seventhlie_a if_o christian_a king_n for_o few_o of_o our_o adversary_n dare_v say_v that_o pagan_a king_n have_v ecclesiastical_a authority_n be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n it_o follow_v that_o till_o constantine_n or_o philip_n the_o first_o christian_a emperor_n the_o church_n be_v without_o a_o head_n for_o three_o hundred_o year_n if_o you_o say_v that_o s._n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n be_v head_n till_o constantine_n than_o i_o demand_v who_o depose_v pope_n sylvester_n when_o constantine_n come_v to_o be_v christian_a and_o consequent_o head_n or_o if_o s._n sylvester_n be_v not_o depose_v than_o it_o follow_v that_o there_o be_v two_o head_n at_o once_o and_o those_o not_o subordinate_a 28._o eightlie_o i_o prove_v this_o by_o king_n and_o emperor_n confession_n and_o as_o towch_a king_n we_o have_v see_v their_o confession_n in_o the_o former_a chapter_n as_o for_o emperor_n constantine_n as_o we_o have_v see_v call_v the_o bishop_n of_o the_o nicen_n council_n 24._o ruffinus_n li._n 1._o cap._n 2._o euseb_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-la vita_fw-la constant_n cap._n 24._o his_o god_n and_o judge_n and_o as_o eusebius_n report_v he_o be_v wont_a to_o say_v to_o bishop_n vos_fw-fr o_o episcopi_fw-la intra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la ego_fw-la extra_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la episcopus_fw-la constitutus_fw-la sum_fw-la you_o o_o bishop_n in_o affair_n with_o in_o the_o church_n i_o in_o matter_n without_o the_o church_n be_o appoint_v point_a bishop_n by_o god_n mean_v that_o he_o be_v to_o be_v a_o vigilant_a prince_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o empire_n but_o not_o to_o meddle_v with_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n and_o therefore_o when_o the_o donatist_n in_o a_o matter_n pertaininge_v to_o the_o church_n decide_v appeal_v from_o a_o council_n of_o bishop_n hold_v by_o pope_n meichiade_n unto_o he_o non_fw-la est_fw-la ausus_fw-la say_v s._n 162._o august_n epi._n 162._o augustin_n christianus_n imperator_n sic_fw-la eorum_fw-la tumultuosas_fw-la &_o fallace_n quaerelas_n suscipere_fw-la ut_fw-la de_fw-la iudicio_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la qui_fw-la romae_fw-la sederant_fw-la ipse_fw-la iudicaret_fw-la he_o dare_v not_o so_o to_o admit_v their_o complaint_n as_o to_o judge_n of_o the_o bishop_n who_o in_o rome_n have_v sit_v in_o judgement_n yea_o optatus_n say_v finem_fw-la optat._n lib._n 1._o cont_n parm._n circa_fw-la finem_fw-la that_o when_o he_o see_v they_o appeal_v in_o such_o a_o matter_n unto_o he_o he_o exclame_v o_o rabida_fw-la furoris_fw-la audacia_fw-la sicut_fw-la in_o causis_fw-la gentilium_fw-la fieri_fw-la solet_fw-la appellationem_fw-la interposuerunt_fw-la o_o wood_n mad_a audacity_n of_o fury_n they_o have_v interpose_v a_o appellation_n as_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o cause_n of_o gentile_n 174._o tortura_fw-la tort._n pa._n 174._o whereas_o doctor_n andrews_n say_v that_o constantin_n delegated_a the_o bishop_n to_o hear_v the_o donatist_n cause_n i_o demand_n whereon_o he_o ground_v that_o for_o if_o he_o may_v delegate_v he_o may_v have_v judge_v of_o the_o bishop_n sentence_n and_o yet_o s._n augustin_n say_v he_o dare_v not_o and_o although_o at_o last_o overcome_v by_o their_o importunity_n he_o hear_v they_o yet_o not_o as_o judge_v but_o as_o a_o arbiter_n theodosius_fw-la the_o young_a send_v count_n candidianu●_n to_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n with_o this_o caveat_n that_o he_o shall_v not_o meddle_v in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n because_o illicitum_fw-la est_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la ex_fw-la ordine_fw-la sanctissimoram_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la sese_fw-la eccelesiasticis_fw-la immiscere_fw-la tractatibus_fw-la it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o he_o that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o order_n of_o most_o holy_a bishop_n to_o intermeddle_v himself_o in_o ecclesiastical_a treaty_n and_o affair_n but_o doctor_n andrew_n answer_v 175._o tortura_fw-la torti_n pa._n 175._o that_o it_o be_v no_o good_a argument_n to_o say_v a_o count_n can_v not_o meddle_v in_o counsel_n ergo_fw-la a_o emperor_n can_v but_o he_o shall_v have_v remember_v that_o this_o count_n be_v send_v to_o supply_v the_o emperor_n place_n and_o therefore_o if_o he_o as_o the_o emperor_n ambassador_n can_v not_o meddle_v in_o counsel_n neither_o can_v the_o emperor_n himself_o he_o shall_v also_o have_v mark_v the_o emperor_n reason_n which_o be_v because_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o he_o that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o order_n of_o bishop_n to_o meddle_v in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n which_o reason_n aswell_o exclude_v the_o emperor_n as_o the_o count_n unless_o doctor_n andrew_n will_v make_v all_o king_n and_o emperor_n bishop_n valentinian_n the_o elder_a say_v 2.1_o sozom._n 16_o ca._n 7._o &_o 2.1_o sibi_fw-la qui_fw-la unus_fw-la è_fw-la laicorum_fw-la numero_fw-la erat_fw-la non_fw-la licere_fw-la se_fw-la huiusmodi_fw-la rebus_fw-la interponere_fw-la it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o he_o who_o be_v one_o of_o the_o laiety_n to_o 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mandata_fw-la est_fw-la but_o you_o to_o who_o this_o procuration_n be_v commit_v the_o same_o meaning_n also_o do_v zozomenus_n his_o own_o word_n follow_v insinuat_fw-la et_fw-la ideo_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la &_o episcopi_fw-la quibus_fw-la haec_fw-la curae_fw-la sunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o priest_n and_o bishop_n who_o have_v care_n of_o these_o thing_n so_o that_o the_o emperor_n mean_v that_o he_o can_v not_o only_o not_o be_v at_o leisure_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o he_o to_o meddle_v in_o counsel_n yea_o he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o intermeddle_v in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n that_o when_o the_o bishop_n assemble_v at_o milan_n desire_v he_o to_o nominate_v the_o bishop_n of_o milan_n he_o write_v to_o the_o bishop_n to_o choose_v such_o a_o one_o as_o to_o who_o say_v he_o we_o that_o govern_v the_o empire_n may_v incline_v our_o head_n because_o say_v he_o supra_fw-la nos_fw-la est_fw-la talis_fw-la electio_fw-la such_o a_o election_n 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conati_fw-la sunt_fw-la nec_fw-la princeps_fw-la sein_fw-fr rebus_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la curiosum_fw-la praebuit_fw-la when_o from_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o world_n be_v it_o hear_v when_o do_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n take_v her_o authority_n from_o the_o emperor_n many_o synod_n before_o these_o time_n have_v be_v many_o judgemente_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v give_v but_o neither_o do_v the_o father_n persuade_v the_o prince_n to_o meddle_v in_o those_o matter_n neither_o be_v the_o prince_n so_o curious_a as_o to_o intermeddle_v in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n yea_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n he_o add_v quis_fw-la enim_fw-la videns_fw-la eum_fw-la constantium_fw-la in_fw-la decernendo_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la principem_fw-la se_fw-la facere_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la &_o praesidere_fw-la ecclesiasticis_fw-la iudiciis_fw-la non_fw-la merito_fw-la dicat_fw-la illum_fw-la eam_fw-la ipsam_fw-la abominationem_fw-la desolationis_fw-la esse_fw-la for_o who_o 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notable_a sentence_n utter_v by_o he_o with_o liberty_n and_o plainness_n worthy_a such_o a_o prelate_n write_v to_o valentinian_n the_o young_a who_o by_o the_o instigation_n of_o his_o mother_n urge_v he_o to_o a_o disputation_n or_o conference_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o consistory_n before_o the_o emperor_n he_o refuse_v because_o the_o emperor_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v in_o such_o matter_n neither_o say_v he_o to_o valentinian_n the_o young_a ought_v any_o to_o judge_v i_o contumacious_a see_v that_o i_o affirm_v that_o only_o which_o thy_o father_n of_o august_n memory_n do_v not_o only_o answer_v by_o speech_n but_o also_o by_o his_o law_n decree_v to_o wit_n in_o causa_fw-la fidei_fw-la vel_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la alicuius_fw-la ordinis_fw-la eum_fw-la iudicare_fw-la debere_fw-la qui_fw-la nec_fw-la munere_fw-la impar_fw-la sit_fw-la nec_fw-la jure_fw-la dissimilis_fw-la haec_fw-la enim_fw-la verba_fw-la rescripti_fw-la sunt_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la de_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la voluit_fw-la iudicare_fw-la that_o in_o a_o cause_n belong_v to_o faith_n or_o to_o ecclesiastical_a order_n he_o shall_v give_v judgement_n who_o be_v neither_o inseriour_a in_o office_n nor_o in_o right_o unlike_a for_o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o rescript_n that_o be_v he_o will_v have_v priest_n to_o judge_n priest_n and_o a_o little_a after_o quando_fw-la audisti_fw-la clementissime_fw-la imperator_fw-la in_o causa_fw-la fidei_fw-la laicos_fw-la de_fw-la episcopo_fw-la iudicasse_n etc._n etc._n when_o do_v thou_o hear_v o_o most_o clement_a emperor_n that_o layman_n judge_v a_o bishop_n in_o a_o cause_n of_o faith_n and_o again_o pater_fw-la tuus_fw-la deo_fw-la favente_fw-la vir_fw-la maturioris_fw-la aevi_fw-la dicebat_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la meum_fw-la iudicare_fw-la inter_fw-la episcopos_fw-la etc._n etc._n thy_o father_n who_o by_o god_n favour_n be_v a_o man_n of_o ripe_a age_n say_v it_o be_v not_o my_o office_n to_o judge_n between_o bishop_n thy_o clemency_n say_v i_o must_v judge_v and_o he_o be_v baptize_v in_o christ_n think_v himself_o unable_a to_o bear_v such_o a_o weight_n of_o judgement_n thy_o clemency_n of_o who_o the_o sacrament_n be_v yet_o to_o be_v deserve_v citatam_fw-la orat._n in_o auxent_n quae_fw-la sequitur_fw-la epist_n citatam_fw-la arrogate_v judgement_n in_o a_o
regna_fw-la that_fw-mi coelestia_fw-la that_o christ_n be_v come_v why_o do_v thou_o dread_a o_o herode_fw-la thau_fw-fr ungodlie_a foe_n he_o do_v not_o earthly_a kingdom_n reave_v that_o heavenly_a kingdom_n do_v bestow_v 4._o and_o so_o although_o christ_n be_v even_o as_o man_n a_o temporal_a king_n yet_o he_o not_o actual_o reign_v himself_o it_o be_v not_o likely_a that_o he_o shall_v give_v any_o such_o authority_n to_o s._n peter_n and_o the_o pope_n his_o successor_n and_o although_o he_o have_v actual_o reign_v himself_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o he_o shall_v give_v that_o authority_n to_o s._n peter_n for_o he_o have_v also_o the_o power_n of_o excellency_n by_o which_o he_o may_v command_v even_o infidel_n not_o baptize_v and_o by_o which_o he_o institute_v a_o church_n sacrament_n and_o a_o priesthood_n which_o s._n peter_n and_o the_o pope_n his_o successor_n can_v not_o do_v certes_o none_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o christ_n may_v have_v give_v s._n 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be_v or_o ocham_n for_o my_o author_n but_o i_o only_o affirm_v that_o by_o john_n azorius_n they_o be_v allege_v for_o that_o opinion_n and_o yet_o who_o can_v think_v otherwise_o then_o that_o he_o have_v produce_v they_o for_o his_o author_n see_v that_o after_o the_o first_o opinion_n of_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n and_o other_o which_o hold_v that_o the_o chief_a pastor_n may_v in_o some_o case_n dispose_n of_o temporality_n and_o regality_n he_o set_v down_o the_o second_o opinion_n of_o those_o who_o hold_v that_o the_o chief_a pastor_n in_o no_o case_n by_o no_o authority_n either_o direct_o or_o indirect_o have_v power_n to_o depose_v a_o prince_n and_o come_v to_o the_o author_n of_o this_o second_o opinion_n which_o he_o himself_o embrace_v he_o say_v hanc_fw-la sententiam_fw-la ut_fw-la refert_fw-la joannes_n azorius_fw-la societatis_fw-la jesu_fw-la theologus_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la gulielmus_fw-la occamus_fw-la joannes_n parisiensis_fw-la dante_n be_v aligerius_n jacobus_n almainus_n etc._n etc._n this_o sentence_n as_o joannes_n azorius_fw-la a_o divine_a of_o
affirm_v that_o in_o case_n of_o intolerable_a tyranny_n against_o the_o church_n the_o pope_n may_v depose_v they_o but_o rather_o as_o they_o be_v content_a so_o to_o bear_v rule_n over_o their_o subject_n as_o they_o will_v permit_v god_n to_o bear_v rule_n over_o they_o so_o they_o shall_v also_o be_v content_a to_o subject_v themselves_o their_o kingdom_n crown_n and_o sceptre_n to_o christ_n and_o his_o kingdom_n that_o reign_v under_o he_o here_o for_o a_o time_n they_o may_v reign_v with_o he_o hereafter_o for_o ever_o chapter_n xv._o a_o explication_n of_o the_o late_a oath_n of_o pretend_a allegiance_n and_o of_o every_o clause_n thereof_o deduce_v out_o of_o the_o former_a and_o some_o other_o ground_n by_o which_o be_v prove_v that_o it_o can_v neither_o be_v propose_v nor_o ta●en_n without_o grievous_a offence_n of_o almighty_a god_n 1._o 5_o vide_fw-la alphonsum_fw-la de_fw-la castro_n v._o juramentum_fw-la gen._n 21._o gen._n 26._o gen._n 31._o psal_n 17._o rom._n 1.2_o cor_fw-la 1._o philip._n 1.1_o tim._n 5_o catholicks_n with_o common_a consent_n do_v confess_v and_o hold_v against_o the_o messalian_o euchite_n pelagian_n waldense_n anabaptiste_n and_o puritan_n that_o it_o be_v lawful_a in_o some_o case_n to_o swear_v as_o many_o of_o the_o great_a saint_n have_v do_v for_o abraham_n swear_v to_o abimelech_n isaac_n to_o the_o same_o or_o another_o abimelech_n jacob_n to_o laban_n moses_n swear_v by_o heaven_n and_o earth_n david_n and_o other_o oftentimes_o use_v this_o oath_n vivit_fw-la deus_fw-la as_o god_n live_v which_o be_v in_o effect_n to_o swear_v by_o the_o life_n of_o god_n s._n paul_n also_o do_v use_v diverse_a oath_n as_o testis_fw-la enim_fw-la mihi_fw-la est_fw-la deus_fw-la for_o god_n be_v my_o witness_n and_o i_o call_v god_n to_o witness_v i_o testify_v before_o god_n and_o such_o like_a yea_o god_n himself_o know_v that_o we_o more_o easy_o believe_v when_o a_o thing_n be_v swear_v swear_v himself_o to_o win_v credit_n at_o 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have_v public_a they_o have_v only_o private_a authority_n 6._o secondlie_o the_o prince_n or_o magistrate_n can_v not_o just_o vex_v subject_n nor_o trouble_v their_o conscience_n with_o it_o but_o only_o for_o his_o own_o security_n but_o this_o oath_n be_v so_o far_o from_o secure_v the_o king_n that_o rather_o it_o expose_v he_o to_o great_a danger_n ergo_fw-la to_o secure_v himself_o the_o king_n can_v justly_o propose_v this_o oath_n that_o this_o oath_n can_v secure_v the_o king_n it_o be_v manifest_a because_o the_o most_o that_o take_v this_o oath_n take_v it_o against_o their_o conscience_n and_o not_o so_o much_o out_o of_o opinion_n as_o for_o fear_n yea_o they_o think_v they_o do_v ill_a in_o take_v it_o and_o consequent_o they_o think_v they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o observe_v the_o same_o for_o to_o swear_v to_o do_v a_o evil_a thing_n and_o after_o to_o fulfil_v the_o oath_n be_v a_o double_a sin_n one_o in_o swear_v another_o in_o fulfil_n a_o example_n be_v in_o herod_n who_o sin_v in_o promise_v by_o a_o solemn_a oath_n that_o he_o will_v grant_v his_o daughter_n what_o soever_o she_o ask_v and_o as_o he_o be_v bind_v not_o to_o stand_v to_o such_o a_o rash_a oath_n so_o he_o sin_v again_o in_o fulfil_v it_o and_o widdrington_n require_v only_o that_o we_o shall_v swear_v that_o we_o think_v it_o probable_a that_o the_o pope_n can_v not_o depose_v a_o prince_n which_o opinion_n probable_a and_o consequent_o fearful_a for_o a_o probable_a opinion_n be_v always_o join_a cis●●_n formidine_fw-la de_fw-la opposito_fw-la with_o fear_n of_o the_o opposite_a or_o contrary_n may_v easy_o change_v with_o every_o wind_n and_o so_o can_v not_o secure_v the_o prince_n and_o so_o the_o king_n after_o this_o oath_n be_v no_o more_o secure_a than_o before_o because_o the_o catholic_n who_o take_v this_o oath_n against_o their_o conscience_n know_v that_o they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o keep_v their_o oath_n and_o they_o who_o swear_v only_o that_o they_o 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allege_v necesse_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la multos_fw-la timeat_fw-la quem_fw-la multi_fw-la timent_fw-la he_o must_v of_o necessity_n fear_v many_o who_o cause_v many_o to_o fear_v he_o offie_a cicero_n lib._n 2._o the_o offie_a because_o as_o cicero_n say_v quem_fw-la metuunt_fw-la oderunt_fw-la man_n hate_v who_o they_o fear_v and_o what_o security_n have_v a_o prince_n among_o they_o that_o hate_v he_o when_o subject_n hate_v their_o prince_n they_o be_v discontend_v when_o they_o be_v discontend_v they_o be_v desperate_a when_o they_o be_v desperate_a they_o care_v not_o for_o their_o own_o life_n when_o they_o care_v not_o for_o their_o own_o life_n let_v then_o the_o prince_n fear_v he_o for_o as_o seneca_n say_v seneca_n seneca_n qui_fw-la svam_fw-la vitam_fw-la contemnit_fw-la tuus_fw-la dominu●_fw-la erit_fw-la he_o thar_z contemn_v his_o own_o life_n will_v be_v master_v of_o thou_o and_o from_o this_o source_n proceed_v the_o late_a gun-pouder-plot_n 8._o wherefore_o if_o king_n will_v reign_v secure_o and_o fortify_v themselves_o strong_o let_v they_o procure_v the_o love_n and_o good_a will_n of_o their_o subject_n 19_o senec●_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr clem._n cap._n 19_o because_o as_o the_o same_o moral_a philosopher_n say_v vnum_fw-la est_fw-la inexpugnabile_fw-la munimentum_fw-la amor_fw-la civium_fw-la the_o only_a impregnable_a and_o inexpugnable_a fort_n and_o strong_a hold_v a_o prince_n have_v be_v the_o love_n of_o his_o citizen_n and_o subject_n but_o if_o a_o prince_n seek_v rather_o to_o domineer_v odious_o then_o to_o rule_v sweet_o desire_v rather_o to_o be_v fear_v then_o love_v all_o the_o oath_n that_o he_o shall_v extort_v of_o his_o subject_n can_v secure_v he_o all_o his_o watch_n and_o guard_n will_v not_o save_v he_o claudius_fw-la the_o emperor_n never_o go_v to_o a_o banquet_n but_o he_o environ_v the_o table_n with_o soldier_n who_o only_o also_o serve_v he_o at_o the_o same_o and_o yet_o by_o his_o taster_n he_o be_v poisen_v domitian_n make_v the_o wall_n of_o his_o gallery_n or_o ambulachre_n of_o stone_n of_o phengites_n which_o be_v transparent_a that_o so_o he_o may_v see_v on_o all_o side_n and_o yet_o he_o be_v slay_v by_o his_o chamberlin_n and_o what_o a_o strong_a guard_n what_o army_n can_v do_v to_o defend_v a_o prince_n that_o be_v hate_v we_o have_v see_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o two_o henry_n the_o three_o and_o four_o of_o france_n whereof_o the_o first_o be_v kill_v by_o a_o silly_a fryat_n the_o other_o by_o a_o poor_a companion_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o their_o army_n and_o so_o the_o first_o condition_n require_v to_o propose_v this_o oath_n which_o be_v judgement_n that_o dictate_v that_o a_o oath_n be_v neither_o to_o be_v propose_v nor_o take_v without_o just_a cause_n be_v want_v 9_o verity_n also_o which_o be_v the_o second_o companion_n of_o a_o oath_n be_v here_o deficient_a because_o it_o be_v false_a that_o the_o pope_n can_v not_o depose_v prince_n as_o i_o have_v 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then_o for_o the_o magistrate_n that_o propose_v it_o let_v this_o suffice_v for_o the_o proposer_n caveat_n and_o lesson_n and_o let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o catholic_n and_o examine_v whether_o this_o oath_n may_v with_o safe_a conscience_n be_v take_v of_o they_o for_o if_o it_o may_v it_o be_v cruelty_n to_o urge_v they_o to_o refuse_v it_o with_o loss_n of_o live_n and_o liberty_n but_o if_o it_o may_v not_o than_o it_o be_v as_o far_o great_a cruelty_n for_o widdrington_n and_o other_o to_o persuade_v they_o that_o they_o may_v take_v it_o as_o it_o be_v more_o to_o loose_v eternal_a felicity_n then_o temporal_a riches_n of_o which_o death_n will_v in_o fine_a despoil_v us._n and_o because_o widdrington_n have_v divide_v the_o oath_n into_o certain_a clause_n i_o will_v follow_v he_o in_o the_o same_o method_n protest_v first_o that_o as_o his_o holiness_n when_o he_o hear_v of_o this_o oath_n affirm_v as_o father_n person_n allege_v by_o widdrington_n 56._o widdr._fw-la disp_n 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