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A45899 The Pope's third breve threatning to excommunicate the most Christian king together with the French clergies reply upon the subject of that breve / faithfully translated from the originals ; giving an exact account of the grand controversie concerning the regalia.; Charissimo in Christo filio nostra Ludovico Francorum Regi Christianissimo. English Catholic Church. Pope (1676-1689 : Innocent XI); Innocent XI, Pope, 1611-1689.; Catholic Church. Assemblée générale du clergé de France. Lettre éscrite au roy par nosseigneurs les archovesques, evesques, & autres ecclesiastiques deputz du clergé de France, assemblées à S. Germain en Laye. English. 1681 (1681) Wing I203; ESTC R13162 5,511 12

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THE POPE'S Third Breve Threatning to EXCOMMUNICATE The Most Christian King Together with The FRENCH CLERGIES Reply UPON The Subject of that BREVE Faithfully Translated from the Originals giving an exact Account of the grand Controversie concerning the Regalia TO Our dearest Son in Christ LEWIS The MOST CHRISTIAN King of France INNOCENT P. P. xi Health and Apostolical Benediction Most dear Son in Christ BY two of our Letters we have already at large clearly shewn to your Majesty from the unanimous testimony of almost all your own French Authors and out of the very Acts and Records of your own Courts how injurious to the Rights and Liberty of the Church and how contrary to the usage and proceedings of all your most Christian Predecessors that Edict was which seven years since being set forth by you does order and command That the Custome of possessing the fruits of all vacant Benefices vulgarly called Regalia shall also extend to such Churches within your present Dominions as never before were subjected to any such Custome Now in the aforementioned Letters of ours according to the duty of our Pastoral Office and that Paternal care which we owe to the salvation of your Soul we did earnestly beseech your Majesty that the said Edict and all other Acts ensuing thereupon contrary to the Rights of the Church in general and to the immunities of such Churches in particular might by your Royal Authority be abrogated and repealed And truly such is the merit of the Cause it self and such is our opinion of your Generosity and Equity that we did not at all doubt but that your Majesty would before this have rectified the Abuse by restoring things to their former places and thereby have freed us from any farther solicitude upon this subject especially in consideration of our having so many other cares upon us in our administration and superintendency over the whole Church of God But after our patient attendance of many months we have received no Answer to our last Letter and finding no Redress of past Grievances that on the contrary we are inform'd that all things tend to greater disorder and that under colour of these pretended Regalia Collations of Benefices and Canonical Institutions are obstructed the Episcopal Authority deprest the Ecclesiastical Order and Discipline disturb'd and finally that a new Practice is set up by a Secular Power contrary to the antient usage of the Church and to divine Institution and this not covertly or in the dark but at noon-day and by Regal Authority We will not at present repeat how many Scandals and Complaints justly arise from such proceedings what inconvenience to the Gallican Clergy what danger to the universal Church may follow from such an Example with what blemish of your Honour and stain upon your Conscience These things we have sufficiently laid forth unto you in our former Monitories and they sufficiently lay forth themselves But now our sincere and Paternal Charity towards your self your most flourishing Kingdom will not suffer us in a matter so injurious to the honour of God and so perilous to your Soul to be longer silent for we are compell'd with a most passionate affection of heart and in the bowels of Christ Jesus to intreat and obsecrate your Majesty that mindful of the words spoken by our said Lord to the Governours of his Church He that hears you hears me you will rather give ear to us who hold the place of a Father and of a most loving Father towards you telling you things wholsome and true than to those Sons of Diffidence who onely savour earthly things and who by their counsel profitable indeed in appearance but in reality pernicious and destructive shake the very foundation of that antient and glorious Monarchy whose Fundamentals always were the maintenance of Christian Religion nda the conservation of the Rights Authority of the Church Were these men such as their Office and Dignity and your extraordinary favour towards them oblige them to be they would rather imitate the Integrity and Loyalty of those who formerly in their station as it is Recorded in History and not long since inserted into the Acts of the Gallican Clergy did with Christian liberty in a like case admonish the Kings your Predecessors to remember how Sacredly they had promised by their Coronation-Oath to serve and advance the glory of God with all their study and power and to be always ready to spend their Blood and lay down their Lives They would mind you also how frail and uncertain the Lives of all Mortals are especially of Kings and Princes who when they are called before our impartial Judge must appear without Houshold-Guards or Attendance without Pomp or Power naked and unarm'd to render an Account of their Actions to the Searcher of Hearts from whom nothing can be concealed with whom there is no exception of Persons who has power to send into Hell-fire where the Powerful are Powerfull tormented Nor was there wanting in the former Age a Bishop in France who in a full Assembly of Prelates and other Peers of the Realm pleading the cause of the Church in the presence of Henry the Third freely told the King how it was observed that the Race or Line of their Monarchs had never failed till such time as they did arrogate to themselves the undue nomination to Ecclesiastical Benefices from which the glorious St. Lewis great in his Temporal state but much greater in his Christian humility did so religiously abstain that he refused to meddle even with those Nominations which were offered and tendred to him from the Apostolick-See This was formerly in France and I hope it still continues the Apostolical liberty of Speech in the Episcopal Order who feared and hoped nothing but from God And such their liberty was so far from being distastful to their Soveraigns that they both obtained their Suit and the just commendation of all good men by which means the Sanction of the Oecumenical Councel of Lions was preserved Sacred and Inviolate And some of the Kings themselves as in the French Annals does appear did by their Edicts declare such persons Impious and Sacrilegious who should any ways attempt to extend the Regalia and right of Nomination to any Churches where no such usage had formerly been But this distemper of our present Age is so much the more grievous to us in that we know your Majesty in your own Royal Inclination prefers above all things the zeal of Justice and the honour of God In maintenance whereof you have lately set forth so pious and salutary Edicts and at present you so vigorously proceed to the joy of all good men and to the immortal honour of your Name in destroying those Nests and Receptacles of Heresie by which means we hope you will no less raise to your self in Heaven an Eternal Monument of your Piety as a Preserver and Propagater of the Christian Faith than leave behind you upon Earth the Trophies of your
Victories as a Conquerour over Barbarous Nations But still care must be taken lest what the right hand builds the left hand should destroy lest what your own innate Piety rears up should be tumbled down by the subtle and indirect Councels of those who say unto you Light is Darkness and Darkness is Light Be mindful of the Apostolical Oracle which tells us he that sins in one is guilty of all In your own Kingdom there are not wanting some amongst our Brethren the Bishops who are men of Christian fortitude and zealous for the honour of God and the Liberties of his Church and who even upon this occasion with the like courage and constancy would have transacted this important affair with your Majesty which is the common Cause both of your Kingdom of France and of the whole Church And more would not have been wanting to assert the same but that they are withheld by a certain timerousness which seemed to them prudential and just but to us vain and unbecoming the Character of a Bishop and even injurious to your Majesty in the mistrust of your Equity and Generosity from entring into the Lists And so they wait the issue of our humble endeavours hoping that we may obtain that in their behalf by virtue of the filial Obedience always due and always paid by your Majesty to the Apostolick See which they had not courage to demand as due to them in their own right Therefore in these our Letters behold the just grief and prayers of them all and no less the will of God himself speaking to you by our mouth and seriously admonishing you to retract the aforesaid Edict and to redress all in pursuance thereof that has been done contrary to the Rights and Liberties of the Church Otherwise we have great cause to fear that Gods Judgments and Indignation will fall upon you which in our other Letters upon this occasion we have denounced unto you and which now again unwillingly as to the sence of our cordial affection towards you but yet in odience to the Holy Spirit moving us to it we this third time denounce unto you Nor shall we write any more to you upon this Subject nor yet shall we desist from applying such Remedies according to the power delivered us from God which in so great and dangerous a Distemper we cannot omit without wounding our own Conscience by a culpable remisness in our Apostolical Function Nor do we fear for our selves any loss or danger nor any storm though never so violent that may hence ensue To this we are not call'd that we should value our Lives above our Souls we know full well that Tribulation for the sake of Justice is to be sustained not onely with a couragious but a willing mind In which and in the Cross of our Lord Jesus we ought onely to glory It is the Cause of God we act in nor do we seek the things that are ours but the things of Jesus Christ So that henceforth the Controversie will no longer be between us two but between your Majesty and him against whom there is no wisdom there is no Councel there is no power Having thus performed the duty of our Ministry in planting and watering we shall attend the good pleasure of Almighty God to give growth to the work from whom with earnest Prayers we shall not cease to beg that he will be pleased to animate these our words and exhortations with such vigour and spirit as may turn the heart of your Majesty to embrace sound and wholsome Councels that so you may deserve and we rejoyce to see a growing prosperity upon all your affairs and that all your Subjects may enjoy a lasting and flourishing peace to you we give our Apostolical Benediction Marius Spinola A LETTER Written to the French King by the Lords Spiritual the Arch-Bishops and the Bishops together with the other Ecclesiasticks appointed by the Clergy of France assembled at St. Germains en Laye With regard to the preceding Breve of the Pope upon the Subject of the Regalia SIRE WE have understood with a great deal of trouble that our Holy Father the Pope has writ a Brief to your Majesty by which he not onely Exhorts you not to Subject some of our Churches to the * The Sovereign Patronage of the Arch-Bishopricks Bishopricks Abbeys and other Benefices of Royal Foundation due unto the King of France and adherent unto his person in the right of his Crown and therefore not to be transferr'd commited or aliened unto any other and hereby he hath the Profits of them during vacancy and the Provision Collation and Presentation of Successours unto them Right of Regality but farther declares That he will make use of his Authority in case your Majesty does not submit to the Fatherly Admonitions which he has so often repeated on this Subject We believe it Sir our Duty not to remain silent in so important an occasion in which we see with an extraordinary grief the Eldest Son and Protector of the Church threatned as in other occasions those Princes which have usurped its Rights have been Our design is not to enter into the bottom of this Affair in which the Assemblies that have preceded this have on divers occasions received very considerable Marks of your Justice and Piety but we look upon this extraordinary Proceeding with great afflict●●● which far from supporting the Honour of the Religion and the Glory of the Holy See may diminish it and produce very ill effects It is too plain that it would only serve to favour the Malice of some troublesome and Seditious Spirits who contrary to the intention of his Holiness which we believe to be very good would make use of his Name and Authority as they do daily in causing several extravagant Reports to be spread abroad against the honour of your Majesty and the chief Prelates of your Kingdom to revenge their private Resentments They likewise use their utmost Endeavours to raise a mis-understanding between the Clergy and the Crown in a time that they never had more Cause to be united by the Protection which your Majesty gives to the Faith and the Ecclesiastical Discipline to the extirpation of Heresies and Novelties It is easie for us being assisted by your Majesty to prevent so pernicious an Evil either by representing our Sentiments to his Holiness without failing in the Respect which we owe him or by taking such Resolutions as may equal the Prudence of the greatest Prelates of the Church Our Predecessours have known in like Conjunctures to maintain the Liberty of their Churches without departing from those Measures of Respect which their Birth and their Religion has infused in them for their Kings And as your Majesty for his Zeal and Aut●hority surpasses all that have been before him so are we so fast linked to him that nothing is able to separate us This Protestation may serve to elude the vain enterprizes of the Enemies of the Holy See and the State and therefore we renew it to your Majesty with all possible Sincerity and Affection for it is good that all the World should be informed That we know how the Love we bear to the Discipline of the Church ought to agree with the glorious Quality which we will always preserve of Your most humble most Obedient most Faithful and most Obliged Servants and Subjects the Arch-bishops Bishops and other the Ecclesiasticks appointed by the Clergy of your Kingdom ✚ The Arch-bishop of Paris Duke and Peer of France Commander of the Orders of the King Provisor of Sorbonne President ✚ De Grignan Coadjutor of Arles ✚ Phelippeaux Patriarch Arch-Bishop of Bourges ✚ Hyacinte Arch-Bishop of Alby ✚ Francois Bishop of Amiens ✚ G. Bishop of Perigueux ✚ Charles Francois Bishop of Constance ✚ S. de Guemaduc Bishop of S. Malo ✚ L. M. Bishop Duke of Langres ✚ Jean Louis Bishop of Air. ✚ J. B. M. Colbert Bishop of Montaubon ✚ Louis Aube Bishop of Grace ✚ The Bishop of Cisteron ✚ Poncet de la Riviere Bishop and Earl of Vzez ✚ Andre Bishop of Auxerre ✚ Louis Alphonce Bishop Dallet Proctor De Grance De Tonnerre De Coetlogon De Villars De Broglio Phelippeaux De Marillas Dean of S. John de Lion De Fleury De Viens De Gourives Cheron De Ventimille du luc J. le Gentil De Moncassin De S. Valier Boucaut Des Marests Agent-General of the Clergy of France De Besons Agent-General of the Clergy of France By our Lords of the General Assembly From S. Germins en Laye this 10th of July 1680. The Abbot de Grignan nominated by the King to the Bishoprick of Eureux Secretary FINIS